Velius Soloing - Best Classes

[iruinedyourday]

Hey guys, Im digging the solo challenge. Come Velius, who will be on top?

Shamen?

How does enchanter fair in Vel? I know in raids they don't do much at except buff, maybe rune in raids.

Necro?

I have been leveling an Enchnater, but wonder how they fair in Velius solo?

There are a few threads about this over the years, but most have dealt with raid info, im specifically talking Duo/Solo named.

[Skittlez]

Hey guys, I'm digging the solo challenge. Come Velious, who will be on top?

Shaman?

How does enchanter fair in Vel? I know in raids they don't do much at except buff, maybe rune in raids.

Necro?

I have been leveling an Enchanter, but wonder how they fair in Velious solo?

There are a few threads about this over the years, but most have dealt with raid info, im specifically talking Duo/Solo named.

My nephew in 1st grade fixed this for you.

[iruinedyourday]

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[Shinko]

anything ogre

[Swish]

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[iruinedyourday]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g2ozHWDF1ts

[Ennewi]

Hey guys, I'm digging the solo challenge. Come Velious, who will be on top?

Shaman?

How does enchanter fare in Vel? I know in raids they don't do much at except buff, maybe rune in raids.

Necro?

I have been leveling an Enchanter, but wonder how they fare in Velious solo?

There are a few threads about this over the years, but most have dealt with raid info, im specifically talking Duo/Solo named.

My nephew in 1st grade fixed this for you.

ftfyour nephew.

[Tecmos Deception]

In Kunark, enchanters are head and shoulders above shamans when we're talking in an overall sense about soloing high-end nameds. The only edge a shaman really has is if he is using puppet strings (and maybe other high-end gear also). When it comes to moving through dungeons (including on CRs!), splitting nasty camps, doing anything meaningful pre-60... enchanter is king.

In Velious, I think shaman will probably be on top (or at least equal to enchanters)... but I also think that the demise of enchanter soloing is highly overstated among forum-goers here. They usually seem to be saying "OMG MAGIC RESISTS AND IMMUNITIES CHANTERS SUCK!!!!" in the context of raiding... as if enchanters are doing anything but buff botting with ocassional CC or eating a DT for boss kills in Kunark or something.

Pasi's post history is a gold mine of Velious enchanter talk. He feels enchanters will remain nearly as powerful for solo/duo in Velious as they are now, just that (as in Kunark) you will need to stick to the zones that are best suited to that kind of activity.

[webrunner5]

I know a lot of people will laugh but a Ranger is no slouch in Velious soloing. With fear animal, which there is a TON of, and using snare to shoot arrows out the ass, and oh by the way he can track the stuff like a champ to even find it, they are damn good at killing. You just find a mob, snare it, IF you can, but most animals you can, and shoot arrows till it is like say 60% health, then go in Melee mode, and DoT, DD mode till like 20% health, then snare it again, and below 18% you don't even get hit. So you don't die that often on a Ranger IF you really know how to play one well. They are a Cat and Mouse class. And they get a LOT of tools to do it with spells and all. But you NEED the Tolan's Bracer to have all the shitty arrows you will need to do it.

Now we are not talking fast as hell killing, but the one I played in that original time frame was damn fun doing it.

But, nobody is going to kill mobs faster than Bards can do, lets not sugarcoat it. But there is not a LOT of people can play a Bard well with the twisting thingy, let alone stand to run around in a oval 8 hours a day. :D

But I would agree, toe to toe, a Ogre Shaman will be hard to beat.

Druids with charm animal if, and I mean, IF they have their epic are no slouch either. The epic DoT lasts forever.

Feign Death is a NICE thing to have in Velious unless some Jackass Caster Mob is not liking you too well. But a SK, Pally kill to slow to solo, and a Warrior is sort of out because their downtime without a Cleric would be maddening.

I never played a high end Necro or Mage in that era so I will not comment on them. I see no reason why they won't do well though.

A Monk is just about going to HAVE to be a Iksar to solo. No way a Human can do it unless you have real TV in your room to watch movies while he heals up. :p

The Enchanter route, which I played in the day, just died way to many times I remember to not get pissed off and quit. Too many resists, too many mobs that can not be rooted, charmed, etc etc, to make it worth it. I JUST F'ing HATE DYING. And they will. You had better have a GOOD friend that is a Cleric. :)

[iruinedyourday]

I wonder how necro is? Necro + puppet strings compared to shamen with them for the solo challenge, is that a viable strat?

I honestly don't even know Vellious's high level group/named dungeons.. I'll have to do a ton of reading. What y'all think will be the perms camped/contested indoor spawns?

[webrunner5]

I wonder how necro is? Necro + puppet strings compared to shamen with them for the solo challenge, is that a viable strat?

I honestly don't even know Vellious's high level group/named dungeons.. I'll have to do a ton of reading.

Man, soloing, using Puppet Strings, would be one God Damn expensive way to kill for weeks at a time :eek::eek:. Velious is really a expansion that was more group designed than solo. Mobs just hit WAY too hard to solo a lot of stuff. They don't die in 30 seconds like in Kunark. Melee class run out of Hit Points, and Casters run OOM. Simple as that solo. And oh by the way group wise also lol..

Until AA's came out in EQ live, which I guess will never happen here, Soloing was a hard ass way to go once Velious came out and past that.

[Clark]

Velious* and Shaman* there buddy.

[kaev]

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A Monk is just about going to HAVE to be a Iksar to solo. No way a Human can do it unless you have real TV in your room to watch movies while he heals up. :p
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Fungi tunic isn't Iksar only, three whole mouse-clicks to swap it in after a fight even if you have better protection to wear during melee...

Mage alt (or friend soloing nearby) can supply endless stacks of bandaids and weightless bags to carry them in...

Iksar's surely an edge solo (the bonus AC should help a little as well), but it's not an "I win" button.

[iruinedyourday]

Velious* and Shaman* there buddy.

dude when i started playing eq i couldnt spel coz i was young, lulz

im being classic.

[Messianic]

I know a lot of people will laugh but a Ranger is no slouch in Velious soloing. With fear animal, which there is a TON of

It's true - unfortunately, fear animal won't be available in velious for a while. I'm guessing probably a year after velious release on p99 this patch will be in.

However, I have a 32 ranger who will be abusing the hell out of that skill as soon as it is available. Fear animal + cheap snare completely changes the solo game for rangers.

[rafaone]

Have a druid with epic, wait until Root + Snare stack (1 months from velious)

Then you can potentially kill every non - Summon MoB out there if you can get to him.

[Tecmos Deception]

Am I the only one who understood the original post to be talking about soloing high-end nameds at 60? Lol.

[Messianic]

Am I the only one who understood the original post to be talking about soloing high-end nameds at 60? Lol.

Read the whole post before replying? Who am I, good guy Greg?

[Cecily]

Have a druid with epic, wait until Root + Snare stack (1 months from velious)

Then you can potentially kill every non - Summon MoB out there if you can get to him.

I can't wait for this. Winged Death, Breath of Ro, Wrath of Nature, Drones of Doom.. 113, 103, 55, 34 = ~3k damage a minute for 525 + 75 mana. Add in new stuff to charm and non-summoning, high level stuff to kill. Druid is gonna be really fun.

[Tecmos Deception]

Does Velious introduce some mobs being 51+ but NOT being summoners?

<---- total Velious noob

[webrunner5]

Am I the only one who understood the original post to be talking about soloing high-end nameds at 60? Lol.

I pretty much remember about the only class that could do it in the beginning were Shamans.

But something a lot of people forget is when the original game came out nobody knew crap about nothing naturally. Velious, when I look back at it, came out pretty quick from the start of the whole thing.

So the point I am getting at I guess is many people had no clue how to really play the class they had. Few people knew all the tricks we know now, or tactics, or what ever. So I think more classes will be pretty good at soloing high end stuff now with all the knowledge we have from years of playing.

But I seem to remember that a lot of the high end mobs summoned and that is pretty much a no go for a caster class. So that is why I said a Ogre Shaman toe to toe would probably be best because you WILL be toe to toe with a lot of top mobs like it or not. :eek::eek:

But yes Tec you are right, I didn't really READ the BEST class only thing by the OP. :o

[webrunner5]

My Shaman is a Female Barbarian. So I am not too sure how she is going to do compared to a Ogre shaman. Man I would hate to re-roll one lol. But I regret it now looking forward. Because the stun thingy IS a big deal toe to toe. :p

[Tecmos Deception]

But I seem to remember that a lot of the high end mobs summoned and that is pretty much a no go for a caster class. So that is why I said a Ogre Shaman toe to toe would probably be best because you WILL be toe to toe with a lot of top mobs like it or not. :eek::eek:

Summoning is no big deal once you get used to it. Shamans are tough so they can tank the stuff they're fighting, and enchanters and necros use pets to take hits. When charm breaks you get summoned into the fray, but if you've planned ahead and/or you're quick, even that isn't a big deal.

http://s1.postimg.org/cfr8v3m1b/EQ001113.png

That's me killing a Velious named in Velk's on beta. It's a lower level dude (53 maybe, something like that), but he still hits for ~200, and my pet was fully hasted and weaponized (so he could potentially quad for 180s every 1-1.5 seconds or so). Charm had broken just before I took this screenshot, which meant I got summoned into the melee, but I was paying close attention waiting for that so I fired off a fast-casting stun and then AE mezzed before these mobs even had time to get through all of bedlam and rune 5.

That gets hard with Velious mobs when they are high-enough level that they're immune to stuns and mezzes, although proper use of root on enemy and pet alike lets me just run out of melee range quickly and boltrans the pet before I get summoned again. Once something is magic resistant enough that you can't keep it rooted at all, a chanter can STILL handle a charm break with an instant recharm clicky (wand of allure, puppet strings) and mem blurs and/or proccing weapons on the pet... or even just stunning the pet and eating a round of melee from the slowed named while you boltrans the pet; these are the methods necessary to solo kunark stuff like cliff golem, dartain the lost, emperor chottal, etc. But then it's kind of a game of attrition, because you guaranteed are going to get hit and if that happens a couple of times over the course of a fight (these fights take a few minutes, even Kunark 51+ nameds don't die in 30 seconds like you were talking about, web)... then you're in trouble.

It's easy to die too though. Those are ways to survive, but if your pet resists a stun or if you have bad luck with channeling or if you aren't VERY on top of what is going on... you're toast in a hurry. Not sure how fighting nameds that rampage will work out solo... lol :)

[Orruar]

My Shaman is a Female Barbarian. So I am not too sure how she is going to do compared to a Ogre shaman. Man I would hate to re-roll one lol. But I regret it now looking forward. Because the stun thingy IS a big deal toe to toe. :p

Is the stun thing really that big for you when a slowed mob bashes or kicks every 32 seconds? Having soloed in the most difficult places a shaman can solo Kunark (seb emp, HS south, deep Chardok), I never once died to a mob bash or even thought that I had wished I had an ogre. Are shamans going to be soloing a lot of unslowable mobs in Velious?

[Messianic]

My Shaman is a Female Barbarian. So I am not too sure how she is going to do compared to a Ogre shaman. Man I would hate to re-roll one lol. But I regret it now looking forward. Because the stun thingy IS a big deal toe to toe. :p

It's a big deal in making things easier, but plenty of non-ogre shamans handled Lodizal or WW dragons.

Depending on your /played, it might be worth considering, but I wouldn't wanna reroll if your shaman is already 34+ and in the clear solo-wise.

[Daldaen]

Is the stun thing really that big for you when a slowed mob bashes or kicks every 32 seconds? Having soloed in the most difficult places a shaman can solo Kunark (seb emp, HS south, deep Chardok), I never once died to a mob bash or even thought that I had wished I had an ogre. Are shamans going to be soloing a lot of unslowable mobs in Velious?

This.

The benefit of Stun Immunity is vastly overstated.

[Waedawen]

"Velious" and "Soloing" is setting yourself up for failure.


All of the good shit. **All** of the good shit, you need at least 1 friend for, except for what people are already shouting at the top of their lungs - Lodizal, some Dragons, some of the camps in Velks.

As for stun immunity, who gives a shit. The mob is slowed, you're fucking fine. If you end up dying because of a bash when you're a shaman, you didn't die because of the bash - you died because you didn't set yourself up for success.