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Bleezar
05-29-2014, 01:50 AM
I've noticed as a cleric I get better experience by soloing things. I know it sounds messed up but I get more xp at level 16 from trash mobs than I do from grouping ( so far ). I've read the guides to leveling a cleric and they say you can solo as well on a few of them.

I've been wondering what's your take on leveling up a cleric and how you like to do it.

I also have a question about the summoned hammers we clerics get. Do they proc against the undead?

Daldaen
05-29-2014, 06:47 AM
Summoned hammers are pretty useless. I wouldn't bother.

Soloing as a cleric you want to do against Undead 99% of the time.

16-39 you can do in Unrest. It gets a lot faster around 24-30. 33-34 is getting kind of slow and 34-39 is pretty quick.

39-50 people suggest Spectres... But I found them to be very slow and ended up just paying for a PL to get through those levels. As your main though you'll likely have to suck it up and solo through those, or group in CoM or some such.

Duo's are almost always better exp than full groups and probably are the best EXP for a cleric 40-60. Get a friend who can charm either a Druid, necro or enchanter, and duo some zones with high ZEMs charming. You healing them when they get hurt, stunning their pet on charm breaks, rooting adds, CHing pets that you decide to keep for awhile... Cleric + Charmer is fantastic exp.

Tecmos Deception
05-29-2014, 07:29 AM
Duo's are almost always better exp than full groups and probably are the best EXP for a cleric 40-60. Get a friend who can charm either a Druid, necro or enchanter, and duo some zones with high ZEMs charming. You healing them when they get hurt, stunning their pet on charm breaks, rooting adds, CHing pets that you decide to keep for awhile... Cleric + Charmer is fantastic exp.

To expand on this a bit based on my experience leveling clerics, both an untwinked one years ago and a twinked one in the last couple weeks: GOOD duos are nice... faster xp than a bigger group with more options for where you can go without exhausting the supply of mobs to fight while also being safer (and maybe faster too) than solo. I'd count a good partner for a cleric as any caster who is a decent player, or as any well-geared melee (except rogues and bards probably) who is a decent player.

But unfortunately, I've run into quite a few players out there who think that just because you have healing and they need healing, that you are obligated to group with them. Don't cave in to these people, no matter how insistent they are, unless they count as a "good" partner for you or you REALLY want some company, imo. They'll just drag you down in terms of XP earned and sanity retained.

Varsha
05-29-2014, 08:39 AM
I've noticed as a cleric I get better experience by soloing things. I know it sounds messed up but I get more xp at level 16 from trash mobs than I do from grouping ( so far ). I've read the guides to leveling a cleric and they say you can solo as well on a few of them.

The lvl of people in group matters. Try to group with people within 2-3lvl of yours max. You can always group with someone 1.5x your lvl. So as lvl 20 you could group with a lvl 30. But you would get very little xp out of it. Have a look at this link to find out how much xp you would get with your group composition :

http://rantsandflames.com/xpcalc/


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webrunner5
05-29-2014, 09:16 AM
I think about everyone that makes a Cleric sort of daydreams about making it a "Battle Cleric". And they can be pretty good killing mostly Un Dead mobs. That is their strength. But past like level 34ish IT is a real struggle to solo very quickly. But it works out to start duoing or full grouping because you get Complete Heal at level 39.

So you will have a few hard levels before you get CH. But there have been a few on here that have soloed to 60. It can be done. But in Velious there will be a BIG need for Clerics with the longer fights and harder hitting mobs. But I would not get in no big hurry to get to 60 because there is some nice low level zones even in Velious. I think level 28ish to 40ish will be the most fun zones to group in in Velious. The top guilds will have the top end zones tied up for months anyhow.

But a lot depends on your lifestyle and play style. A Cleric in a group is sort of a long term commitment. Its like you can't join the group and tell them 20 minutes later you are leaving. You have to sort of play for hours not minutes. A Wizard or a Mage can sort of say sorry I HAVE to leave right now and its not a big deal.

I find the longer I have played on here the more I do solo. But I have made enough plat to afford good gear to do so. So that helps :p But a Cleric is a great class either way you go. But you will need better gear to solo than group that's for sure.

Daldaen
05-29-2014, 09:22 AM
34-39 is ridiculously easy in the knight tower of unrest. Takes 5ish hours to solo through.

Estu
05-29-2014, 09:23 AM
Cleric soloing is among the slowest in the game, at about 7 hours per level root-nuking undead. If you outfit your cleric with really expensive gear (i.e. fungi, haste item, poison wind censer (this latter isn't very expensive but you can't pull off a melee cleric very effectively without a fungi)), you can speed it up especially at lower levels but it's still surprisingly effective at high levels (I'm in my mid-30s doing about 3-4 hours a level). Root-nuking, apart from being slow as fuck, is also boring as fuck (some people would also find cleric grouping boring and one-dimensional, though I think it's pretty fun). So I'd say, try to find groups, especially small groups as mentioned above, but if that fails or you don't have enough time that particular play session, go ahead and solo a bit. Swish has a nice guide here: http://wiki.project1999.com/Swish%27s_1-50_Cleric_SOLO_guide

Tecmos Deception
05-29-2014, 09:54 AM
You're trying the wrong places if it takes 7 hours to do a level as a cleric soloing undead. Dald is exaggerating about the speed of XP killing hags in unrest, but they ARE very good xp. Maybe 2-3 hours per level (5-6 for 35).

Even if it does take a cleric 5 hours to get through a level solo though, I've been in plenty of full groups in my time on p99 that were earning xp much more slowly than that. And there is something to be said for the flexibility of soloing!

Daldaen
05-29-2014, 10:02 AM
I'll check my clerics logs when I get home... But I definitely remember 36-39 being very quick at hags.

Tulnavara
05-29-2014, 10:32 AM
Absolute fastest xp for a cleric is Zander (http://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=125327). Barring it being your alt and having a ton of money yourself or a friend who will toss the money to you though duoing with an enchanter was the fastest xp I've seen outside of Chardok AE groups on my Cleric. Be wary of ever going below 40% mana though. I swear every time I did we had a rough charm break/pull and ended up dying lol.

Tecmos Deception
05-29-2014, 10:34 AM
I'll check my clerics logs when I get home... But I definitely remember 36-39 being very quick at hags.

Haha, ok :)

I don't deny that is a primo XP spot for a solo cleric; I did it on my first cleric back in early Kunark and it was great. I just think that 1 hour per level is quite a stretch without outside help or a bonus xp weekend or something ;)

Jaxon
05-29-2014, 10:45 AM
You weren't using that Manastone of yours by any chance were you?

Glenzig
05-29-2014, 10:54 AM
Easiest way to solo a cleric is to duo with a good warrior. Other than that it will be slow but doable. But yeah, make one of your friends or your wife/girlfriend play a warrior.

Estu
05-29-2014, 05:11 PM
You're trying the wrong places if it takes 7 hours to do a level as a cleric soloing undead. Dald is exaggerating about the speed of XP killing hags in unrest, but they ARE very good xp. Maybe 2-3 hours per level (5-6 for 35).

At level 32 I was getting 6-7 hours a level doing giant skeletons in Rathe - they were at the perfect level range (low dark blue, so minimal resists) and were not Kunark monsters so presumably their HP was as low as you'd find on warrior mobs at that level. I'd tried hags but they were too high level whereas the rest of the stuff in Unrest was generally too low or hard to split. Unrest may have a nice EXP bonus and hags might have lower HP than warrior monsters but it would never give you EXP twice as fast.

stonez138
05-29-2014, 06:20 PM
At level 32 I was getting 6-7 hours a level doing giant skeletons in Rathe

Rathe Mts. doesn't have a very good zem, if it has one at all. I don't recall there being a ton of skeletons to kill either, but I could be wrong about that. So I would say that's not the place you want to be for fast xp.

botrainer
05-29-2014, 08:07 PM
Hey interesting how you post this. Everything always depends, mostly on, your group DPS and puller. You got junk for DPS (like 1 or 2 dps classes) and the rest is AFKing Wizards, druids, and some other commonly known to afk classes your gonna have a bad time grouping.

#2, Your mana pool will suck, and your money flow is slow. but at all costs, get as much mana as u can to keep up on heals. I know it doesnt make mana regen faster, but it helps to have a big enough pool where ur not OOM after 3 casts nor FM after 10 ticks. Bad pulls happen having the mana will help make groups go alot smoother.

#3 if you wanna avoid PLing everyone else(as they are afking non stop), then yeah Id sugguest soloing right out man, have fun! But along the way if you find a great Puller / tank / Dpser, keep them friend listed and level with them. As they will make leveling alot more fun and at times appear faster if not be faster ..its hard to find those 3 things these days it seems. If you happen to find 2 in 1 or all 3 in 1 then even better!

fishingme
05-29-2014, 08:37 PM
kind of recently played in hag tower on 34-37 enchanter I'd say it's more so 3-5hours per level there. At any rate though, once basement opened up i preferred to solo bookcase to ghost, a lot better xp. Find yourself a chanter duo and you two will be in love.

Estu
05-30-2014, 12:01 AM
Rathe Mts. doesn't have a very good zem, if it has one at all. I don't recall there being a ton of skeletons to kill either, but I could be wrong about that. So I would say that's not the place you want to be for fast xp.

Right, the ZEM is probably just your standard outdoor zone ZEM, not as good as Unrest, but it wouldn't make it half as efficient as Unrest. Getting enough pulls was in no way a problem because it took so long to med up after nuking one down. Pulls were pretty much immediate. The problem with cleric soloing is how long it takes to med up afterwards. I was getting about one kill per seven minutes (counting the time to kill and med back up).

Bazia
05-30-2014, 04:53 AM
Fastest way to level is to solo pre-50

Best way to level is with a group of friends :)