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Dillian
06-10-2014, 01:22 PM
i saw it some where on thread about the ducking to stop spell casting not being classic and i found the patch note of when ducking to stop spell casting was put in. well into the velious era. so it shouldnt be in game yet. here is the link

http://www.tski.co.jp/baldio/patch/20010627.html

Tecmos Deception
06-10-2014, 01:23 PM
Everyone knows this. Devs don't want to change it on blue.

Dillian
06-10-2014, 01:33 PM
ahh well there would prolly be a mass uprising with a Occupy EC tunnel or something if they changed it

Tecmos Deception
06-10-2014, 01:39 PM
Eh. When I leveled my chanter on red, I didn't really feel like it was a big deal. Clickies refreshing gems is a way bigger + than no ducking to interrupt is a -, imo. Guess it would suck for clerics CHing but so many spells that matter are fast-casting anyway, stuns and roots and stuff, that you have to be pretty bad about fatfingering the wrong ones for it to make a big difference overall.

Ele
06-10-2014, 01:42 PM
It is known and reported:

http://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=113794
http://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=53309
http://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=58707
http://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=58814
http://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=96441
http://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=105273
http://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=100286

This is what Nilbog had to say about it, previously,

Damn guys.

It worked like this till 2001. Unless you played something that cast no spells, this is something you should definitely remember.

In addition to this, you *should* be able to sit down during a long cast from a spell or clicky. As long as you are standing when it completes, it should resolve and cast.


I hope this is a joke. It obviously takes a lot more skill to pay attention to wtf you're doing and not cast the wrong spell.

If you review the patch notes, you'll discover we didn't have this functionality until long after pve was opened.

I support it being added purely because it should classically be there until June, 2001. It wasn't added because pve had been up for multiple years. PvP server had the option of starting with it.

Regardless, this is the pvp bugs section, so working as intended until midway Velious.

Dillian
06-10-2014, 01:45 PM
ahh kk, noted. yah yah the clicky thing is a much bigger problem too. sorry to drag something up thats already been noted. Will do a search next time =)

indiscriminate_hater
06-10-2014, 02:14 PM
fatfingering

Could be an issue here

Swish
06-10-2014, 02:18 PM
Oops I didnt mean to CH.

LOADING, PLEASE WAIT...

You soon learn :p

Clark
06-11-2014, 12:52 AM
Should remove it on PvP.

Skittlez
06-11-2014, 12:54 AM
I have never used this ducking to stop casting nonsense. If I hit the wrong spell I move so it doesn't resolve but that's about it. Just don't click the wrong shit and your good.

Ikonoclastia
06-11-2014, 01:30 AM
I have never used this ducking to stop casting nonsense. If I hit the wrong spell I move so it doesn't resolve but that's about it. Just don't click the wrong shit and your good.
For clerics its pretty useful. Sometimes you can't sit immediately, for aggro reasons, but you also can't have a spell (CH) you just interrupted continue casting, because you might need to immediately cast it again or cast another spell (fast heal). And of course moving doesn't always interrupt so it might hit and waste mana anyway.

Yumyums Inmahtumtums
06-11-2014, 02:09 AM
Had a charm break immediately on shield of the magi cast and sow dropped a minute earlier.


Lololol wtb duck casting

Ikonoclastia
06-11-2014, 02:55 AM
Had a charm break immediately on shield of the magi cast and sow dropped a minute earlier.


Lololol wtb duck casting
http://www.legacyofsteel.net/home/archives/2000-11-13/ronald-1.jpg
Rocking the Duck.

Wookiewoowoo
06-11-2014, 07:22 AM
Sometimes you can't sit immediately

I never had a gaining agro issue hitting ctrl+s twice to do a quick sit/stand.
not sure why everybody keeps complaining about duck casting.
If anything you can have all a hotkey set to sit and then immediately cast a spell which would actually be quicker then canceling a spell with duck...

Ikonoclastia
06-11-2014, 08:39 AM
I never had a gaining agro issue hitting ctrl+s twice to do a quick sit/stand.
not sure why everybody keeps complaining about duck casting.
If anything you can have all a hotkey set to sit and then immediately cast a spell which would actually be quicker then canceling a spell with duck...
I just tried sitting while casting. All I get is "You can't use that command right now" message.

Tecmos Deception
06-11-2014, 08:52 AM
You have to click the sit button on the actions bar manually. On blue it just sits you down and cancels your spellcast. On red you can sit during casts to get med ticks then stand back up in time for the spell to finish though.

Swish
06-11-2014, 01:26 PM
http://www.legacyofsteel.net/home/archives/2000-11-13/ronald-1.jpg
Rocking the Duck.

gud 1

fastboy21
06-11-2014, 02:10 PM
You have to click the sit button on the actions bar manually. On blue it just sits you down and cancels your spellcast. On red you can sit during casts to get med ticks then stand back up in time for the spell to finish though.

never realized this. how did it work during classic? i'd always assumed that if you sat during a spell cast (except for bard) that your spell was interrupted.

also never realized that clicking the built in button in the UI for anything worked any differently than the text command (i.e. clicking sit button vs. typing /sit). are there any other examples of this sort of difference?

Yumyums Inmahtumtums
06-11-2014, 02:22 PM
Hot keys when you're casting don't work unless you click the button.

Unless I'm doing it wrong it is not possible to send your pet in to attack while casting without clicking it.

Tecmos Deception
06-11-2014, 02:23 PM
I'm not sure how it worked in classic.

You'll notice there's a number of different things you can do with clicks or typed commands that won't work with hotkeys depending on what you're doing. Usually it's targetting stuff. You can't click the mouse on a target or use F keys to change NPC or PC targets while in mid cast (although I think you can while doing bardsongs), but you can click on your UI to get a target change to self or a groupmember. I can't think of too many examples off the top of my head... targetting is the big one, and the one yum said.

Yumyums Inmahtumtums
06-11-2014, 02:41 PM
As a Mage you also learn pretty quickly that /pet go away needs to be clicked if you're casting a new pet.


I died probably 5 times because of this before I learnt it.

Peon25
06-11-2014, 02:54 PM
I'm not sure how it worked in classic.

You'll notice there's a number of different things you can do with clicks or typed commands that won't work with hotkeys depending on what you're doing. Usually it's targetting stuff. You can't click the mouse on a target or use F keys to change NPC or PC targets while in mid cast (although I think you can while doing bardsongs), but you can click on your UI to get a target change to self or a groupmember. I can't think of too many examples off the top of my head... targetting is the big one, and the one yum said. You can also F8/F7 to acquire a new target -- useful for hybrid tanks imo, since there's no extended target window. You can also use the NPC cycle key.

Wookiewoowoo
06-11-2014, 05:25 PM
I just tried sitting while casting. All I get is "You can't use that command right now" message.

dang, could of sworn it worked, hrmm, my bad

Clark
06-12-2014, 02:25 AM
Had a charm break immediately on shield of the magi cast and sow dropped a minute earlier.


Lololol wtb duck casting

:eek: