Where was your live EC tunnel

[fishingme]

So I recall hearing a bunch of different stories about where people's EC tunnel was, some in gfay, some in EC, and freeport itself. I was curious where yours was and it's location in said zone.

On Ayonae ro it was East commonlands in the tunnel.

[Thana8088]

On Druzzil Ro was it was also EC tunnel.

[Clark]

Veeshan was NFP. I prefer EC, but Freeport was a fun experience. Bad guys would hang out in the sewers lol.

[Silverain]

On Tunare, GFay spires. Is why we always called it GBay.

[SniGlas]

Rallos Zek = GF

[Elderan]

Veeshan was NFP. I prefer EC, but Freeport was a fun experience. Bad guys would hang out in the sewers lol.

Yep Veeshan was NFP bank for a longest time.

[Tasslehofp99]

Prexus was North Freeport and EC tunnel; shit some people even auctioning in Gfay as well sometimes.

[Lanzellot]

morell thule :EC
antonius Bayle:EC

[YoloSwag]

On Povar it was in Gfay. Which I honestly liked better. Nothing cooler than seeing 200 people chilling on a big platform in a tree.

[Thulack]

Brell Serilis was EC tunnel

[Daldaen]

The Bazaar.

Best tunnel ever. Could AFK, sell stuff, and not have to deal with people haggling with you. /mourn bazaar.

[Lanzellot]

The Bazaar.


wuerg luclin go away with this shit dal:eek:

[Daldaen]

F all the EC tunnels. Having bazaar type interfaces that you can AFK and sell stuff overnight are boss.

I'm all for interacting with people in groups and raids. I have zero interest interacting with them as I try to sell stuff.

[Lanzellot]

Good point but still this shit was made by SOE
luclin was the beginning from destroying eq!

[Duckwalk]

Why did EC triumph on so many servers, wiz and Druid ports? It would seem ease of access to banker for good and evil classes would trump port locations.

[Lanzellot]

people who had ec on live as tradingzone ,so than me allways believed that is a lie with gfaydark ......;)

[Thulack]

F all the EC tunnels. Having bazaar type interfaces that you can AFK and sell stuff overnight are boss.

I'm all for interacting with people in groups and raids. I have zero interest interacting with them as I try to sell stuff.

and thats why i broke your mule :D

[Daldaen]

He is fixed now! After a month and a half I think it was. But I'm never helping you transfer a 250pp dagger again.

[Thulack]

Why did EC triumph on so many servers, wiz and Druid ports? It would seem ease of access to banker for good and evil classes would trump port locations.

2 zones from good bank
2 zones from evil bank(and evils can use NFP bank easily)
1 zone from 3 wizard ports
1 zone from 1 druid port
2 zones from Boat to other continent.

[Lanzellot]

2 zones from good bank
2 zones from evil bank(and evils can use NFP bank easily)
1 zone from 3 wizard ports
1 zone from 1 druid port
2 zones from Boat to other continent.

better point didnt exist or?:p

[Yumyums Inmahtumtums]

EC tunnel on Cazic Thule.

Iirc Gfay and NFP had some activity just not as much.

[Duckwalk]

2 zones from good bank
2 zones from evil bank(and evils can use NFP bank easily)
1 zone from 3 wizard ports
1 zone from 1 druid port
2 zones from Boat to other continent.

Using NFP as common trading ground :

Same zone banking for good and evil.
2 zones away from Wiz and Druid ports.
1 zone away from boat.

Plus the giant headache with traveling with large amounts of pvp is negated.

[myriverse]

On Nameless, it was EC tunnel (and by the time I started, in Sep 1999, it was jam packed). And nearly every time I went through GFay (which wasn't that often) it was dead.

[Taeoz]

NFP on Saryrn. Luclin was released so quickly after AB opened, that I don't think I ever got a chance to shop in EC - until now.

[Tecmos Deception]

NFP was Saryrn's tunnel. It had plusses and minuses really. You were farther from ports but closer to a bank. Remember that back in the day most people kept all their pp in the bank of their main, not on a mule sitting somewhere. Also, far fewer people would grind NFP faction up/tag lucan, far fewer people would use invis items like larrikan mask or whatever, far fewer people knew about banking through walls, etc.

NFP is where P99's tunnel should be.

[Obwin]

NFP on Mithaniel Marr, it was awesome. Banking / market should be in a city IMO. Behind the jade tiger was a big hangout and sewers for evils. Also people constantly dueling / fight club in sewers.

[Nubben]

NFP is where P99's tunnel should be.

[myriverse]

NFP on Mithaniel Marr, it was awesome. Banking / market should be in a city IMO. Behind the jade tiger was a big hangout and sewers for evils. Also people constantly dueling / fight club in sewers.
EQ tends to lack many of the real world things that influence where markets start. But EC was a natural crossroads, where markets would usually arise in ancient times. You had people from FP, Neriak, places west, Ro and beyond, plus proximity to not just one bank.

On most servers, race is meaningless to PCs, so it doesn't make much sense to exclude a large part of your customers by selling in a city. Markets tend to be very neutral places by nature.

I think I only ever went to NFP twice on Live, and once was an accent with my SK... and I died. :)

[Kekephee]

Solusek Ro: Gfay


EC tunnel is a pretty stupid place to trade, honestly. Someone in this thread mentioned that it's "two zones away from a good bank and an evil bank and one zone away from ports" and all that is true, except have you ever made the trip from EC tunnel to NFP or Neriak on an overencumbered character? It is so fucking far. Gfay made even less sense, so I'm not saying we were doing it right, just that EC is pretty bad.


I think Toxx would be a better place to trade. It's smaller so it's easier to run across to get to good/evil cities, and the ports are completely right there.

[Thulack]

Solusek Ro: Gfay


EC tunnel is a pretty stupid place to trade, honestly. Someone in this thread mentioned that it's "two zones away from a good bank and an evil bank and one zone away from ports" and all that is true, except have you ever made the trip from EC tunnel to NFP or Neriak on an overencumbered character? It is so fucking far. Gfay made even less sense, so I'm not saying we were doing it right, just that EC is pretty bad.


I think Toxx would be a better place to trade. It's smaller so it's easier to run across to get to good/evil cities, and the ports are completely right there.

Ive banked multiple times in NFP running from EC on Evil and good toons while encumbered. It's called fake trade trick and strafe running. But when i do this i usually ask the person why they dont just have a mule in EC to hold all their stuff and they can't ever give a good answer lol. keep 500-1k in your bank for CR's, recharges and leave the rest on a Mule in EC.

[August]

I played Quellious during pre-Bazaar times, and it was EC Tunnel.

I remember the first time I went there. I was a 13 year old kid and I had been looting gnome guards for their FS weps and shields from a necro who was exping. He let me loot them because he couldn't be bothered. He told me I should go to 'the bazaar' in EC with my pp to see what I could get.

It was a Sunday, and I made it there and thought 'what the fuck is going on here'. Just unreal how many people were there. I thought for sure that it was an event - not an every day thing, and spent many hours there haggling - I ended up taking the 500pp I had looted and turned it into 1200pp at the end of the day. Thus my addiction to the tunnel had started.

When I logged back on next, probably mid-week, I was astonished that people were still there at 'the bazaar' (and I actually called it 'the bazaar' for the entirety of my EQ experience - I was a little shocked when they zone they created was called 'the bazaar').

I never got past level 34 my first go thru. The lure of the tunnel was too strong.

[Gaffin 7.0]

rallos zek - gfay

[Peekae]

Emarr was EC

[myriverse]

Solusek Ro: Gfay


EC tunnel is a pretty stupid place to trade, honestly. Someone in this thread mentioned that it's "two zones away from a good bank and an evil bank and one zone away from ports" and all that is true, except have you ever made the trip from EC tunnel to NFP or Neriak on an overencumbered character? It is so fucking far. Gfay made even less sense, so I'm not saying we were doing it right, just that EC is pretty bad.
"Evil" folks really traveled there to do business?

I think Toxx would be a better place to trade. It's smaller so it's easier to run across to get to good/evil cities, and the ports are completely right there.
Still, who the heck wants to go to Toxx... unless you're Erudite?

[Kekephee]

"Evil" folks really traveled there to do business?


Still, who the heck wants to go to Toxx... unless you're Erudite?



Yeah, it was insane. All these ogres and trolls cowering in the Gfay spires begging all of their friends to transfer their new Wurmslayer from the wood elf trader mule they'd made over to their main. Sad. Lots of invises gone wrong near the city, guards training all over the place.


And yeah, no one wants to go to Toxx. I happen to love that awful yellow haze that makes it hard to see anything even in the daytime!

[Duckwalk]

Ive banked multiple times in NFP running from EC on Evil and good toons while encumbered. It's called fake trade trick and strafe running. But when i do this i usually ask the person why they dont just have a mule in EC to hold all their stuff and they can't ever give a good answer lol. keep 500-1k in your bank for CR's, recharges and leave the rest on a Mule in EC.

Using mules really only works of you have a trusted RL friend to help to transfer plat and equipment...unless you're two boxing.

Tox is too remote for anyone not porting. FP is centrally located, near popular lowbie zones, all guildmasters and has non-port access to the majority of game zones without much trouble.

All good and evil have no trouble banking and selling.

[Kekephee]

Ive banked multiple times in NFP running from EC on Evil and good toons while encumbered. It's called fake trade trick and strafe running. But when i do this i usually ask the person why they dont just have a mule in EC to hold all their stuff and they can't ever give a good answer lol. keep 500-1k in your bank for CR's, recharges and leave the rest on a Mule in EC.

Mule is a good idea, but it's such a pain in the ass sometimes to do all of that extra transferring and then they get encumbered and can't move. I've grown to hate my EC trader because every time I try to get something done on him it's always that terrible moment of dread where you send the other person a tell informing them you're weighed down and can't move and they have to come to you, and it's 50/50 if they're going to respond that they, too, are an encumbered mule who can't move and you've got a problem here

[Ravager]

Shady Swashbuckler should start a bank in the tunnel. He'd probably do quite well for himself.

[Kekephee]

Using mules really only works of you have a trusted RL friend to help to transfer plat and equipment...unless you're two boxing.

Tox is too remote for anyone not porting. FP is centrally located, near popular lowbie zones, all guildmasters and has non-port access to the majority of game zones without much trouble.

All good and evil have no trouble banking and selling.


Why do you need guild masters in a trading zone? Obviously EC is a better place to be levelling up and such, in a million different ways, but if we're talking purely about trade, most of that stuff is irrelevant. Easy to make an erudite for transfers, doesn't matter if there are real newbies leveling there if you're just trading items and plat. As far as no-port access, I disagree pretty strongly. Without ports you can get to Freeport by taking a boat or running half an hour from the Karanas through Highpass. Neither one of these is any more sensible than however the hell you get to Toxx. Ports needed either way.

[Duckwalk]

Why do you need guild masters in a trading zone? Obviously EC is a better place to be levelling up and such, in a million different ways, but if we're talking purely about trade, most of that stuff is irrelevant. Easy to make an erudite for transfers, doesn't matter if there are real newbies leveling there if you're just trading items and plat. As far as no-port access, I disagree pretty strongly. Without ports you can get to Freeport by taking a boat or running half an hour from the Karanas through Highpass. Neither one of these is any more sensible than however the hell you get to Toxx. Ports needed either way.

Guildmasters for all classes just reinforce it as a area of high traffic.

Relying on mules is always a hassle unless you're two boxing.

Erudite and Qeynos have always seemed remote to be vast majority of popular content (mostly because of the absurd size of the Karanas). In vanilla, solb, najena, hhk,guk and CT always seemed be to a reasonable run from FP.

FP always seemed the most centrally located with banking for good and evil, and both porting and non-porting traveling options.

[Kekephee]

Guildmasters for all classes just reinforce it as a area of high traffic.

Relying on mules is always a hassle unless you're two boxing.

Erudite and Qeynos have always seemed remote to be vast majority of popular content (mostly because of the absurd size of the Karanas). In vanilla, solb, najena, hhk,guk and CT always seemed be to a reasonable run from FP.


I guess I can admit that the number of times I have found myself incidentally passing through commons just kind of glancing occasionally at my auction spam window to see if there's anything interesting for sale is high enough that I can concede your point. For me, personally, I would say most of the time that happens because I'm moving my guy to WC to wait at the wizard spires for ports to a raid, which, if Toxx were the trade zone, we'd probably do all our pickups there instead so it wouldn't be an issue- in fact, it'd be better because WC is a zone removed from the trade zone instead of right in it- but most people aren't raiders so that's not really relevant.

[iruinedyourday]

rallos zek - gfay

yess!!!

But I like EC better, especialy after reading this:

EQ tends to lack many of the real world things that influence where markets start. But EC was a natural crossroads, where markets would usually arise in ancient times.

Now I feel like I'm in some sweet bazaar in a awesome fantasy movie that's over crowded and everyone's yelling at each other and haggling and I look like this guy, trying to blend in:

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y170/heypete/Other/marcus_brody.jpg

[Halius]

Bristlebane was EC as well.

[myriverse]

Guildmasters for all classes just reinforce it as a area of high traffic.
No. Guildmasters next to worthless. Often too much of a chore to even worry about for several levels.

FP always seemed the most centrally located with banking for good and evil, and both porting and non-porting traveling options.
My SK never banked in FP. Too much hassle. Come to think of it, after a certain level, none of my characters ever went to FP at all.

[planarity]

was Gfay on xev

[Ravager]

Just speculation, but a natural place to have the market was EC, being kind of central to 2 of the high end loot zones at the start of EQ (Guk and Sol). People could sell their crap and still be a sow's run from a group and not far from a bank.

I was on Povar and it was GFay, which I kind of liked better for no special reason. I've acquired a bit of a distaste for the market on P99 though, so I'm pleased that it's in a zone I wouldn't otherwise use and not in GFay.

[Reubin]

"Evil" folks really traveled there to do business?


Yes. Wolf form was readily available and made it possible for evils to bank.

[Susvain2]

Using mules really only works of you have a trusted RL friend to help to transfer plat and equipment...unless you're two boxing.



No

No one is ever going to steal your shit. No one in TMO, Bda, Taken etc is ever going to steal your shit. Getsome (leader of IB) had me transfer a 4k item one day because i was a halfling. a level 40 halfling unguilded. because he knew no ones going to steal your shit.

anyone in a real guild is not going to steal your shit, basically anyone 45+ wont either.

[Duckwalk]

No

No one is ever going to steal your shit. No one in TMO, Bda, Taken etc is ever going to steal your shit. Getsome (leader of IB) had me transfer a 4k item one day because i was a halfling. a level 40 halfling unguilded. because he knew no ones going to steal your shit.

anyone in a real guild is not going to steal your shit, basically anyone 45+ wont either.

I was under the impression we were talking about live, specifically vanilla, and the origination of trading zones.

I don't recall vanilla being so heavily policed by GMs to prevent scams ( which we still regularly see happen in P99).

[Rararboker]

Innoruuk it was EC. I remember getting my first FBSS there and being super excited about it.

[Clasick]

that terrible moment of dread where you send the other person a tell informing them you're weighed down and can't move and they have to come to you

Level a bard to 5 and make this your banking mule and never worry about being encumbred again !

[Kekephee]

Level a bard to 5 and make this your banking mule and never worry about being encumbred again !

Thought about it. My current EC trader is a pink and gold human shadowknight wearing a giant fork for a weapon. The loss of this kind of style is just not worth the practicality of having a trader who can move.

[jpetrick]

Just cancel trade all your plat. You are now unencumbered for 20 seconds. How does no one know this?

[Thulack]

Just cancel trade all your plat. You are now unencumbered for 20 seconds. How does no one know this?

[kaev]

Mule is a good idea, but it's such a pain in the ass sometimes to do all of that extra transferring and then they get encumbered and can't move. I've grown to hate my EC trader because every time I try to get something done on him it's always that terrible moment of dread where you send the other person a tell informing them you're weighed down and can't move and they have to come to you, and it's 50/50 if they're going to respond that they, too, are an encumbered mule who can't move and you've got a problem here

Use a L5 Bard for your mule Keke, a L5 Bard can always move (as you surely must know, lol.)

Also, gBay was obviously 10000x better than EC. It's what I got used to on Tunare in 1999, so anything else can't possibly be :classic: :p

[mgellan]

Tholuxe Paells: EC
Bertoxx: EC

Regards,
Mg

[Leeyuuduu]

NFP was Saryrn's tunnel.

An interesting thing to note, for those who didn't start from the beginning, is that the Saryrn server was created by being split off from Veeshan, as the Veeshan server just got too damn full. As has been mentioned already, NFP was also the main banking area when I played on Veeshan.

It's cool to think that the "culture" of a server can be transferred in such a way.

[Catashe]

NFP was Saryrn's tunnel. It had plusses and minuses really. You were farther from ports but closer to a bank. Remember that back in the day most people kept all their pp in the bank of their main, not on a mule sitting somewhere. Also, far fewer people would grind NFP faction up/tag lucan, far fewer people would use invis items like larrikan mask or whatever, far fewer people knew about banking through walls, etc.

NFP is where P99's tunnel should be.

totally Saryrn was the best

[skorge]

totally Saryrn was the best

small world, i too played on Veeshan and Saryn, lol...I miss those old NFP days, you remember a popular seller named Tripper? Ended up being one of the most popular NFP dudes on Veeshan back in the day, i got him started with a 1k loan, i never knew he would end up being one of Veeshan's richest

[Mac Drettj]

EC tunnel is in the same spot in every server itiot

[Catashe]

small world, i too played on Veeshan and Saryn, lol...I miss those old NFP days, you remember a popular seller named Tripper? Ended up being one of the most popular NFP dudes on Veeshan back in the day, i got him started with a 1k loan, i never knew he would end up being one of Veeshan's richest

Sadly I started playing EQ pretty much right after the spilt so I never was on Veeshan

[Frug]

EC on Xegony.

[bigsykedaddy]

On Povar it was in Gfay. Which I honestly liked better. Nothing cooler than seeing 200 people chilling on a big platform in a tree.



I was on Povar from the day EQ released up until Kunark and it was always EC tunnel, they musta changed it down the line.

[Orruar]

The Bazaar

[Nisse]

EC on Xegony.

Xegony had Faymart, if EC was a trade hub I don't remember it.