Why so much homophobia on the forums?

[iruinedyourday]

What are you guys just trying to have the attitude of someone from 1999 and think that its ok to use words like that?

Is there some secret club/inside joke that I'm not aware of?

Do you wear pillowcases on your heads when you meet?

It really is sad.

Your kids are going to find these posts one day and be like holy shit my dad was an asshole, FYI.

/eom

[phacemeltar]

it has been said that gays will burn in hell. therefore, we must all do what we can to be miserable.

[phacemeltar]

wait, what does homophobia means?

[Champion_Standing]

Most forum posters are actually of the xbox live caliber when it comes to player quality, same with "hardcore" raiders. It's to be expected.

[iruinedyourday]

Yea granted I just joined this, club. But when I started I thought everyone was really cool!

I'm beginning to think I was really wrong :(

Come on guys, we all like classic eq! who cares if you like boys girls or whatever, none of us are ever going to get laid again anyway.

I mean where else can I talk to someone with an epic warf avatar about the Qeynos aquaducts?

It's a shame that there just happens to be a clan rally right in the middle of this nerd convention.

[Millburn]

where else can I talk to someone with an epic warf avatar about the Qeynos aquaducts?

It's a shame that there just happens to be a clan rally right in the middle of this nerd convention.

This is probably the best summary ever given about the P99 forums lol.

[emeianoite]

I'm black and gay and I find this post offensive, faggots need to chill and let us suck a mean dick.

[iruinedyourday]

smh

[emeianoite]

smh

Do that shake head thing you do, it feels good.

Do you find it hard to come out as being gay?

[emeianoite]

i think im gonna start a Hunk of the Day thread and get some bare chested shit going, since mammaries are ok

Let's get a poll going, shits about to get real.

[Toehammer]

What are you guys just trying to have the attitude of someone from 1999 and think that its ok to use words like that?

Is there some secret club/inside joke that I'm not aware of?

Do you wear pillowcases on your heads when you meet?

It really is sad.

Your kids are going to find these posts one day and be like holy shit my dad was an asshole, FYI.

/eom

Gotta choose your battles man. Internet forums have a similar effect observed in that famous Stanford Prison Experiment psychology study. Basically, if people can and will be as douchey as they want if unchecked, or in the case of the internet if everything is anonymous.

As long as it stays in rants and flames, just ignore it or opt out. If it is in other forums, just report them. If you play on the red server, there can be heated competition (unlike blue) so in some sense, I think, the language is fine. In sports/competition when things get heated, no big deal if teammates/opponents say fag, gay, or whatever. The terms are still derogatory in modern language, especially among young angst-ridden males (predominately P1999).

Don't take things too seriously from anonymous people on the internet. They are probably nice(r) people in real life, or suppress it enough to blend into polite communities. Sure the language can be juvenile... but most people playing P1999 never really grew up... that's why we are playing a dorky game from 1999 our parents had the common sense to prohibit us from sitting in front of 6 hours a day...

Come on guys, we all like classic eq! who cares if you like boys girls or whatever, none of us are ever going to get laid again anyway.

:eek: dude... quit being a fag and go get laid

[emeianoite]

Gotta choose your battles man. Internet forums have a similar effect observed in that famous Stanford Prison Experiment psychology study. Basically, if people can and will be as douchey as they want if unchecked, or in the case of the internet if everything is anonymous.

As long as it stays in rants and flames, just ignore it or opt out. If it is in other forums, just report them. If you play on the red server, there can be heated competition (unlike blue) so in some sense, I think, the language is fine. In sports/competition when things get heated, no big deal if teammates/opponents say fag, gay, or whatever. The terms are still derogatory in modern language, especially among young angst-ridden males (predominately P1999).

Don't take things too seriously from anonymous people on the internet. They are probably nice(r) people in real life, or suppress it enough to blend into polite communities. Sure the language can be juvenile... but most people playing P1999 never really grew up... that's why we are playing a dorky game from 1999 our parents had the common sense to prohibit us from sitting in front of 6 hours a day...



:eek: dude... quit being a fag and go get laid

You guys need to take a stroll to the Darktide Asherons Call server. Prepare to get affected.
:D

Ever quest is gay as fuck.


/popcorn

[Rellapse40]

op is a fgt

[harnold]

We just hate them there really isn't anything more to it

[Toehammer]

You guys need to take a stroll to the Darktide Asherons Call server. Prepare to get affected.
:D

Ever quest is gay as fuck.


/popcorn

Just FYI, I was just trying to give the OP a polite version of "stop being a fag."

It is sorta gay to complain about homophobia. Anyone who gets upset about language is sorta faggy. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1IFloXOuLgA

[iruinedyourday]

Haha tohammer you are so funny i watch all your standup!

Oh wait, you are nothing but a regular looser in thier home at a computer insulting someone to feel better about yourself all while building your philosophical guidelines out of a fucking stand up comedians bit?

I dont need anyone here's advice on how I should be more liberal with my use of the N word on the internet and should just get over it.

I just wanted to ask why you people were such loosers. Maybe hoping that there were some people that would make me feel like there were other nice people in this community.

And you all came riding in on a fleet of steeds on a rainbow bridge proving how perfectly worthless you are.

I was wrong to assume the community based around a hobbyist mod of a 15 year old game would be an awesome one.

One day your children will read this shit you post here, and you and them will be horribly embarrassed.

[Zadrian]

I dont need anyone here's advice on how I should be more liberal with my use of the N word on the internet and should just get over it.

.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3NAUgCm-3Tc

[iruinedyourday]

Do you people think he actually believes this stuff? Jesus. Hes a writer.

And you are not a famous stand up comedian.

[Zadrian]

Who cares?

[iruinedyourday]

Who cares?

you do, you dummy, you posted here.

[skulldudes]

louie ck having a bit about bigoted language doesn't mean he espouses you going around being a shithead and calling everybody a faggot you fucking goon

you're the modern day equivalent of every pudgy white guy 10 years ago that feigned a high brow, referencing george carlin as an excuse to be an unrepentant asshole

[Zadrian]

Lol no. Just because I post, does not mean I care about what you say. Just like the rest of these people, I think you are being silly.

Dummy.

[Zadrian]

louie ck having a bit about bigoted language doesn't mean he espouses you going around being a shithead and calling everybody a faggot you fucking goon

you're the modern day equivalent of every pudgy white guy 10 years ago that feigned a high brow, referencing george carlin as an excuse to be an unrepentant asshole

I don't think I've called anyone a faggot, but you sir are surely being a huge faggot.

[Lictor]

Pretty gay thread bruh

[Skittlez]

Full of faggots

[iruinedyourday]

Look everyone here is giving me advice on how I should be more relaxed with my usage of words that may or may not be offensive to people.

I just am trying to say, hey you should think about it, if someone is offended by your behavior it might not be their fault. It isn't hard to make minor adjustments in your life to be more pleasant to other people, especially people that share such an appreciation for a niche fantasy role playing game.

Why we wouldn't try to get along with each other instead of just acting like a goon driving a car who is flashing their middle finger everywhere and screaming at their dashboards, is beyond me.

I'll try to be less offended when I read words that have offended me in the past during my life that you don't know, but all I am asking you guys here is to have an open mind and we should celebrate the similar things we appreciate rather than insult each other.

There is no reason to be so offensive when someone is offended by someone elses behavior. Everyone is a horrible person, nobody isnt guilty. The good people try to make adjustments when they can.

In this instance everyone can, myself included.

Alos ps, thank you skulldudes for giving me a blip of hope.

[Zadrian]

Why do you assume that what people post here reflects their daily life?

And skulldudes gives you hope? Why - because he said something that sort of aligns with something you are trying to agree with? Let's ignore the fact that he used the very word that you claim to be offended by. Hypocrisy abound!

Let me just tell you that you are not a moral beacon, nor have you brought about any new concepts of "let's all be friends."

It doesn't matter what you say, you will always offend someone somewhere. It is not up to us to change our ways, but up to you to avoid that which offends you.

[Cookiefist]

rnf

[Lictor]

rnf

Awww were your virgin eyes offended?

[Ahldagor]

this forum and box is becoming a last refuge of the late 90's and 00's mentality of persons and gaming personalities. hilarious how much people will cling to something because of nostalgia.

[skulldudes]

it's actually pretty easy to not offend anyone, if you consider the consequences of what you say and give a thought towards how it might affect someone past your utter indignation of being "oppressed" by your inability to use hate speech.

and since louie ck is the crux and validation of your point of view, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v-55wC5dEnc&feature=kp

also i didn't call anyone a faggot, i was referring to its usage. homosexuality isn't bad so i don't use it as an insult.

[Cookiefist]

Awww were your virgin eyes offended?

So, Fended

[iruinedyourday]

It doesn't matter what you say, you will always offend someone somewhere. It is not up to us to change our ways, but up to you to avoid that which offends you.

There is no reason to argue, please follow your own advice and choose to not be offended that I am offended by your usage of words on the internet. Choose to make the minor adjustments, as I said I would.

[Cookiefist]

Offending people builds up that said persons character!

[Zadrian]

it's actually pretty easy to not offend anyone, if you consider the consequences of what you say and give a thought towards how it might affect someone past your utter indignation of being "oppressed" by your inability to use hate speech.

and since louie ck is the crux and validation of your point of view, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v-55wC5dEnc&feature=kp

also i didn't call anyone a faggot, i was referring to its usage. homosexuality isn't bad so i don't use it as an insult.

I'm just going to move your file to the "Complete Idiot" section.

How do you get through life being so presumptuous while also walking on eggshells all the time?

I posted the link because it's funny, not because it's the "crux and validation of my views" and also because he makes fun of people using "N word"

According to iruinedyourday it doesn't matter what your reasoning behind the usage of the word is, because as long as you used it, you are a naughty mr. man!

Please continue to give vulgar words power, though - that's why vultures, like the ones you will find on rnf, will continue to use them to offend people.

[iruinedyourday]

I'm just going to move your file to the "Complete Idiot" section.

How do you get through life being so presumptuous while also walking on eggshells all the time?

I posted the link because it's funny, not because it's the "crux and validation of my views" and also because he makes fun of people using "N word"

According to iruinedyourday it doesn't matter what your reasoning behind the usage of the word is, because as long as you used it, you are a naughty mr. man!

Please continue to give vulgar words power, though - that's why vultures, like the ones you will find on rnf, will continue to use them to offend people.

Nobody is asking you to walk on egg shells, simply to not type slanders for homosexuals on public forums, how is that difficult?

[Zadrian]

There is no reason to argue, please follow your own advice and choose to not be offended that I am offended by your usage of words on the internet. Choose to make the minor adjustments, as I said I would.

I didn't say don't be offended, I said if it offends you so much, avoid it.

FYI - I haven't crossed your threshold for offensive language - other than the time I made fun of skulldudes for using faggot.

[iruinedyourday]

I didn't say don't be offended, I said if it offends you so much, avoid it.

FYI - I haven't crossed your threshold for offensive language - other than the time I made fun of skulldudes for using faggot.

you're tottaly offended that I asked people to refrain from using slanders against huge swaths of people becuse you think its ok.

Look its fine that you think its ok, but dont be offended that I am asking you not to use them on public forums. You are calling the ketle black, and gay.. and insinuating that the kettle shouldn't be stoked it was gay.

The kettle should be like, yes my iron is black, and I am gay, your point? And you should respond with, uh my point was to point out the literal obvious that has no meaning.

The words should be treated the same way you would treat a word like Hair, or eyebrows.

You guys are a bunch of people with hair and eyebrows.

They literately have the same meaning as you guys are a bunch of jews or mexicans... Only one is intended to be hurtful, when it without a doubt should not be.

Seriously this is such a stupid argument we are having. You even agree with me, if you are offended by something, try not to be, I am trying not to be offended by the usage of the words. I would like to see them reduced in this community, I hope that even if you never agree with me that someone out here does.

We need to stop arguing, just accept the fact that some people will be hurt by your actions, and if you don't care just do whatever. But please, try to care.

No one is infringing on any of your rights asking you to be respectful of others.

[Zadrian]

lolwut?

You are calling the ketle black, and gay.. and insinuating that the kettle shouldn't be stoked it was gay.

No I'm not offended. Like I said, my original post was just a funny link.

Vulgarity exists, get used to it or don't. You might as well go live under a rock.

Avoid RnF if it offends you. That's all there is to it.

[Ahldagor]

none of this argument on what is offensive here matters because this isn't a public forum. y'all are blatantly ignorant of this.

[Zadrian]

none of this argument on what is offensive here matters because this isn't a public forum. y'all are blatantly ignorant of this.

this argument is helping me waste time at work! SHUYAMOUF!

[iruinedyourday]

none of this argument on what is offensive here matters because this isn't a public forum. y'all are blatantly ignorant of this.

The public can access it.

Why in the name of god must everything be argued lol

WHO CARES

Just stop being racist on the internet for the love of god. Just be open minded that life will not cease to exist the moment we stop using words like faggot!

God nerds are the absolute worst people.

[Zadrian]

dudebro you're getting all mixed up.

Using the word faggot is offensive, don't resort to it.

[helcahisie]

Ranting or not, I feel that insulting people who have nothing to do with oneself is out of bounds. And expecting said people to be cool with those insults is quite silly, honestly. You insult someone, that someone hates you. Simple enough.

I don't understand why you would be romantically interested in men of all creatures in the world - I simply have no idea. But I don't insult people who are like that for it.

[iruinedyourday]

All I have learned here today is rangers are both useless in groups, and on forums.

[Ahldagor]

you actually think God cares about nerds?

[skulldudes]

grasping at grounds so utterly bereft of straws

[Zadrian]

All I have learned here today is rangers are both useless in groups, and on forums.

now you're insulting the population of rangers? I think you need to follow your own advice, young sir.

[Messianic]

http://i.imgur.com/Hw5MNuJ.jpg

[emeianoite]

Just FYI, I was just trying to give the OP a polite version of "stop being a fag."

It is sorta gay to complain about homophobia. Anyone who gets upset about language is sorta faggy. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1IFloXOuLgA

Dude, what annoys the shit out of me is the fact that homosexuals ram their agenda down my throat. I really could give a shit if you scissor or you suck a dick, that's fine dude, go for it.

But when you expect me to be mentally okay with watching display of affection, then you're just being a cunt about it. I'm in different, same way I treat a straight couple, is going to be the same way I treat a gay couple; and that way is simply "I don't care".

Isn't that was they want me to be? They want us to treat them the same right? Indifference is my answer.

Now back to saying things like gay, queer, faggot... dude seriously? You can call me a faggot, you can call me a honkey, a beaner, LOL I don't give a shit.
Be an adult and get the fuck over it.

/popcorn

[helcahisie]

Now back to saying things like gay, queer, faggot... dude seriously? You can call me a faggot, you can call me a honkey, a beaner, LOL I don't give a shit.
Be an adult and get the fuck over it.

/popcorn

Insults someone, expects that someone to ignore the insult.
This is just illogical. If you insult someone, that person will hate you.
Get over that as well.

[Zadrian]

If you hate someone for insulting you, you're an idiot.

[iruinedyourday]

now you're insulting the population of rangers? I think you need to follow your own advice, young sir.

BDA is for faggots

[Zadrian]

p99 is for faggots

ftfy!

[helcahisie]

If you hate someone for insulting you, you're an idiot.

Less of an idiot than those who insult other people and expect them to be happy about it.

[Zadrian]

Less of an idiot than those who insult other people and expect them to be happy about it.

Where'd you get the idea that anyone expects you to be happy about insults. Part of growing up is being able to brush insults off. Are you seriously stupid?

[iruinedyourday]

Dude zadrian its time for you to do some work today, your steaming ears are getting you nowhere.

[iruinedyourday]

http://i.imgur.com/Hw5MNuJ.jpg

Yes this is totally how I feel lol.

Also this:

http://res.cloudinary.com/readnuts-com/image/upload/c_fit,h_350,w_350/jqhhis1gpxzoiul2pai4.png

[Zadrian]

Dude zadrian its time for you to do some work today, your steaming ears are getting you nowhere.

Umad?

[iruinedyourday]

Umad?

u steamin bro u so mad

[Zadrian]

Uderp?

[iruinedyourday]

this is u

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FTByHbjgz8k

[Bardalicious]

I'd hope you'd realize that there is nothing "1999" about the behavior here. EverQuest players back then were tremendously more respectful to each other. Or at least the assholes weren't as vocal. Having forums to post on doesn't help.

[Invoke]

I'd hope you'd realize that there is nothing "1999" about the behavior here. EverQuest players back then were tremendously more respectful to each other. Or at least the assholes weren't as vocal. Having forums to post on doesn't help.


Oh, I don't know...

http://www.erollisimarr.com/forum/showthread.php?t=9916

[LulzSect]

Did not read bread

Everyone above me is a faggot

[iruinedyourday]

Oh, I don't know...

http://www.erollisimarr.com/forum/showthread.php?t=9916

It is sad how nerds on the internet are more oppressed than homosexuals or minorities in real life, because they get demonized for using words like faggot to make someone feel bad.

When will people learn that using those words on forums isn't a choice.

the truth I need to realize is tho, we will always have socially inept youths intermingled with intelligent people in places like this because we are playing a giant toy video game.

I just hope that the vast majority would jump on people down voting them immediately discrediting anything they have to say if they choose to use these words in a place where they may be speaking directly to someone who has had a much harder life, because of those words.

[Bardalicious]

Oh, I don't know...

http://www.erollisimarr.com/forum/showthread.php?t=9916

What does a post from 2003 have to do with 1999 mentality?

[iruinedyourday]

haha clossest records...

heh to be fair the whole 1999 thing is just a color comment about how the sentiment of using those words is backwards and if you are using it you're living decades in the past.

Like the racist elderly.

[Bardalicious]

That's like saying our closest records of classic content was from 2003 (legacy of ykesha and LDoN expansions) so we should recreate that for a classic server.

[iruinedyourday]

so ya'll like to ram ass or wuts goin on here

see this? this is funny. Take note trolls, this man knows how to do it.

[Toehammer]

Haha tohammer you are so funny i watch all your standup!

Oh wait, you are nothing but a regular looser in thier home at a computer insulting someone to feel better about yourself all while building your philosophical guidelines out of a fucking stand up comedians bit?

:rolleyes: Dude, all I was saying is you need to choose your battles on the internet. Coming to a forum known for trolling and juvenile language, and pleading for them to clean up their language is a foolish endeavor. Your time would be better spent arguing with people in YouTube comments.

Sorry for trying to save you time and frustration... thanks for calling us "loosers," although I don't understand what my elasticity has to do with anything.

I dont need anyone here's advice on how I should be more liberal with my use of the N word on the internet and should just get over it.

I just wanted to ask why you people were such loosers. Maybe hoping that there were some people that would make me feel like there were other nice people in this community.

No one is telling you to be more liberal with your use. I suggested you opt out of rants and flames, and report people if you are offended by their use of language outside of rants and flames. Just don't be so damn offended by words on an emu forum board man. Someone else wisely mentioned in the thread that part of growing up is growing a thicker skin to juvenile comments. Imagine if everyone was as sensitive as you... do I honestly have to invoke the childish "sticks and stones may break..." logic for you?

You seem awfully inexperienced on these boards. I was trying to help you with wisdom cultivated from reading and not posting on these boards for years.

This community is full of nice people, and a few bad apples can sometimes spoil the bunch. Opt out of rants and flames ASAP. Also, use your ignore list... I can send you my list if you want :)

I was wrong to assume the community based around a hobbyist mod of a 15 year old game would be an awesome one.

One day your children will read this shit you post here, and you and them will be horribly embarrassed.

The community is pretty sweet here. Try to invest your time beta testing Velious, discussing game strategy/tactics/nostalgia, and leveling fun characters while making friends in groups. It really is a time sink and foolhardy expectation to change anonymous people's language use on an internet forum. Also, don't be so reactionary to people politely responding to you. Your attitude is as juvenile as the language you denounce.

[myriverse]

I blame self-loathing. There'd be a lot less of it if people would accept their gayness.

[Ennewi]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RGcW6pOVRZg

[Messianic]

Read the full text of the fansy the famous bard screenshots. It was far, far worse in 1999-2001.

[emeianoite]

So are we going to do this pole or what? And it's P - O - L - E, so we're talking dicks here.

[nilzark]

wait, what does homophobia means?

Man Fear

[iruinedyourday]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IfesuLQLnzw

Its just weird being part of a community that shares an interest in low poly dragons that we would want to alienate any group, or be cruel to each other for any reason.

[Invoke]

What does a post from 2003 have to do with 1999 mentality?

Almost all those people in that thread started playing in 1999. The E Marr message boards have been around since 1999 and I dont recall it being more civilized then what we see today. I remember seeing a lot of racist/homophobic character names in 1999. Where are you getting this romanticized view of how things were in the last millennium?

[Messianic]

Your problem here is this:

we would want to alienate any group, or be cruel to each other for any reason.

This isn't an organization. It's not a club. It's just a bunch of individuals choosing to access certain servers to exchange certain information or share certain experiences.

It's not a bunch of people seeking to make society more moral, as any individual has defined morality. So there's no "we" anywhere in this.

Certain people don't care about offending certain groups. That's all. Controlling their behavior is neither desirable nor possible; they obviously aren't given megaphones and are typically sidelined to R&F when they get out of line, but there's no "we" anywhere in there, no more than "we the human race" are responsible for the offensive things totalitarian dictators do.

Some will take what a few participants (a better term than members) of this community as a reflection of the whole. You can't fix stupid. That's always going to happen. Most people won't.

[iruinedyourday]

Why are you crusading for me to stop crusading? Defending the use of ethnic slurs is what you find yourself needing to fight about on a forum?

Mess, Toehammer, you guys should seriously take your own advice.

[Messianic]

Why are you crusading for me to stop crusading?

What makes you think I am crusading for anything? I'm trying to reason with you. Is that offensive to you?

Defending the use of ethnic slurs is what you find yourself needing to fight about on a forum?

- I'm not fighting for anything. I see you doing something that seems irrational. I point out why. This is a forum. It's probably an appropriate place for that
- This thread is about "homophobia", not ethnic slurs. I'm not defending either of them.

Mess, Toehammer, you guys should seriously take your own advice.

What is my advice?

[phacemeltar]

"we the human race" are responsible for the offensive things totalitarian dictators do.

you dont believe this to be a truth? sorry if im being too serious, perhaps i should start a new thread for this discussion.

[iruinedyourday]

This is how it works, there are 3 reasnos to post here:

1. I hate gay & ethnic slurs, racism and homophobia is bad.
2. I dont mind racisim and homophobia, so much so that I'm going to argue that its not worth fighting against.
3. I am a racist ignorant bastard and cant act like this outside of my house so I will be damned if someone tells me I cant act like it inside of it.

Pick one, there is no 4, there is no 5 or 0... therse one of the 3... read it, and move on, take from it what you will.

2 of the 3 are bad at life.

[Bardalicious]

Where are you getting this romanticized view of how things were in the last millennium?

You most certainly do not recall seeing a lot of racist and homophobic names in 1999, now I know you're full of shit. Guides and GM's actually CARED about enforcing naming policy when the game came out to such a degree that even humorous takes on phrases and real life references were censored. Perhaps I do have a romanticized view of how things were, or perhaps Fennin Ro wasn't nearly as bad as the servers you played on. But as a whole, people were far more friendly to each other.

I'd accredit it to roleplaying still being a heavy component of the game as well as a general lack of knowledge of mechanics, which led to a greater feeling of camaraderie because everything was mysterious and dangerous.

Also, lol @ the guy citing Fansy as a representation of the 1999 EQ playerbase.

[Invoke]

You most certainly do not recall seeing a lot of racist and homophobic names in 1999, now I know you're full of shit.

Please explain to me how guides and GM's in 1999 stopped someone from making a level 1 char with an offensive name? I remember specifically one of the first days on EQ I saw someone named "Hitlerjewkiller" and all his corpses at the gates in FP.


Guides and GM's actually CARED about enforcing naming policy when the game came out to such a degree that even humorous takes on phrases and real life references were censored.

Not disagreeing with this but how does that have anything to do with the classiness of the player base?

But as a whole, people were far more friendly to each other.

Say's the guy who just said I was full of shit. :rolleyes:

Let me also say this...

We have both red and blue players on these message boards. The Zek boards back in the day were far more toxic then the average server message board. Maybe some blue players aren't used to the red neanderthals.

[Bardalicious]

Please explain to me how guides and GM's in 1999 stopped someone from making a level 1 char with an offensive name? I remember specifically one of the first days on EQ I saw someone named "Hitlerjewkiller" and all his corpses at the gates in FP.

You're judging the whole by the actions of a few? Ok, got it. If the argument was that there were a minority of vocal assholes on live in 1999, I'd agree. But I don't classify the large majority of nice players I encountered during my live stretch back then as assholes just because there were a few clowns running around.

I played Rallos Zek in 1999 as well and it wasn't that much worse than Fennin Ro was.

As for me stating that you were full of shit, how does that disqualify anything I've said? Especially when the thread is about homophobia.

[Bardalicious]

P.S. I'm also mostly referring to my in-game interactions with players back then. I never had any desire to take part in forums for the game, because as with most anywhere else you go on the internet, the false sense of anonymity with zero attachments brings out the worst in otherwise nice people.

[FoxxHound]

I am a little sad that homophobia isn't a thing. I'd call it anti-gay. They aren't horrified of said gay person. Just assholes.

[iruinedyourday]

And now I'm going to watch stardust while I EQ

[Toehammer]

Why are you crusading for me to stop crusading? Defending the use of ethnic slurs is what you find yourself needing to fight about on a forum?

Mess, Toehammer, you guys should seriously take your own advice.

Nowhere were either of us defending the use of ethnic slurs, nor dudefagbro language as I will call it. Most young boys learn the word "fag" before they know what hetero or homo even means. It is just part of young male vernacular in the USA. It will take anywhere from 10-100 years, or never, to fully purge the language of it. Just deal with it man... that is reality. It is not homophobia, just as using his instead of her is not sexism... it is just convention/habit more than anything. I remember the old AD&D book had a short concise paragraph about using masculine pronouns vs. feminine ones due to familiarity. Now lots of writing defaults to her instead of his, because most men don't give a crap about juvenile word usage battles.

I think you need to take a look at the forest for the trees.

You are wasting a lot of time whining/protesting/complaining, all tactics of inaction. I am trying to enlighten you to possible actions you can take: opt out of rants and flames and report people who make take RnF-type comments out of RnF.

I don't know how old you are, so I will not guess. But, your actions are slightly immature. If you really just wanna go on a crusade, you have to find soldiers. P1999 is a land of limp-wristed mouse clickers... good luck! Crusades need generals that know where to take the battle... P1999 is not a good place to take an equality crusade.

Also, your original post is obnoxious, even to those of us who do not condone usage of said terms. Your energy is misdirected. Since I can not get through to you... I invoke wiser words: "Complaining does not work as a strategy. We all have finite time and energy. Any time we spend whining is unlikely to help us achieve our goals. And it won't make us happier."

If you want to put in an honest effort, instead of your OP calling people KKK members and horrible future parents, you should have said simply, "Hey can we crack down on the comments more by reporting people quickly?" If it works good, if it doesn't move on... dead horses are not for (b)eating

[Toehammer]

P.S. I'm also mostly referring to my in-game interactions with players back then. I never had any desire to take part in forums for the game, because as with most anywhere else you go on the internet, the false sense of anonymity with zero attachments brings out the worst in otherwise nice people.

Thank god someone else stated it. I tried to explain this to iruinedyourday but he disregarded it.

I too never participated on the forums back in the day... probably the best move.

The internet is a wanker paradise.

[iruinedyourday]

Just because it's a wanker paradise doesn't mean you need to be apathetic about it.

I'm calling it out. Hopefully one teenager hear realises they should remove their gif sig that has disrespectful words all over it.

If you think you can change my anonymous mind, why not try to change the peoples mind who really are doing something wrong. You're picking the wrong fight toehammer.

[phacemeltar]

i dont really understand why someone would define themselves as gay, thus separating themselves from other humans. i cant even suggest that i enjoy unicorns and rainbows without some asshole accusing me of being one of these "gays"

if anyone is wrong in this situation, its those people who promote segregation and name-calling. no two people are the same (homo) so i just dont understand the rationality.

but hey if you want to call yourself funny names, all i can do is try to convince you that youre an idiot.


P.S. - theres alot of this "queer culture" stuff floating around this weekend and i dont appreciate that there is no S in LGBT

[iruinedyourday]

if anyone is wrong in this situation, its those people who promote segregation and name-calling.

This alone is and should be the issue here, you just shouldn't do it. No, louis ck said a funny joke about it, so I'm gona do it, or I just dont see anything wrong with it.

just straight up, dont do any of it.

[Rellapse40]

shut

the


fuck


up


fgt

[Toehammer]

Just because it's a wanker paradise doesn't mean you need to be apathetic about it.

I'm calling it out. Hopefully one teenager hear realises they should remove their gif sig that has disrespectful words all over it.

If you think you can change my anonymous mind, why not try to change the peoples mind who really are doing something wrong. You're picking the wrong fight toehammer.

:confused:

I think you have neither read nor thought about a thing I have posted. I agree with you that the bad language is unnecessary. I am not fighting you. I am telling you that your strategy will fail because your tactics are bad. If I were against you, would I be trying to help you? Can I state it any clearer than that?

[Zadrian]

:confused:

I think you have neither read nor thought about a thing I have posted. I agree with you that the bad language is unnecessary. I am not fighting you. I am telling you that your strategy will fail because your tactics are bad. If I were against you, would I be trying to help you? Can I state it any clearer than that?

Don't waste your energy. I was convinced several days ago that this fool is trolling.
You've repeated things that I've said to him and he just doesn't want to listen.

[iruinedyourday]

I am not trolling i just dont have time nor is this the place to answer every question about my tactics or whatever.

You guys hae more of a problem with me and how I express my disgust for bigots and I dont have time to hold your hand all day long while I say that they should stfu.

I talked with toehammer offline and we were able to more easily understand eachother.

frankly this shouldn't be a discussion.

/thread

[phacemeltar]

I am not trolling i just dont have time nor is this the place

link plz. this is a great discussion

[Zenren]

So what about the name Himmler? I saw this guy running around blackburrow today. I'm sure it is intended to allude to Heinrich Himmler who was one of the people most directly responsible for the Holocaust and was the head of the division of the SS responsible for setting up the concentration camps that killed millions of Jews. Anyways, if its offensive I ask that you ban this guys account three ways from Sunday. There are horrible names, then there's choosing the name of one of the most despised people of all time.

[Knuckle]

What are you guys just trying to have the attitude of someone from 1999 and think that its ok to use words like that?

Is there some secret club/inside joke that I'm not aware of?

Do you wear pillowcases on your heads when you meet?

It really is sad.

Your kids are going to find these posts one day and be like holy shit my dad was an asshole, FYI.

/eom

gay people are gay, gay is slang, slang is language, we dont have to change slang, slang will change itself over time, dont be mad.

[Daldolma]

if you are offended by the words of anonymous people on the internet, you are a fat fgt

[iruinedyourday]

Truly the only way to win here, is not to play the game.

[Skittlez]

if you are offended by the words of anonymous people on the internet, you are a fat fgt

[thedezgyrl]

I am a supporter of LGBTQ issues and all of the like.

Most gamers are not homophobic. Most gamers don't give a ferq about your sexuality. Rival gamers will use it as ammo to get a rise out of you. Others it is a term of endearment like 'bro', 'dude', etc.

No. It doesn't make it anymore acceptable, but you're submerging yourself in a 'zero ferqs given zone' when gaming. Either you grow some thick skin and roll with the jabs. Or you wince at the butthurt and go home.

I get a lot of crap and hassle for being a female gamer. I can't cry and be a damsel in distress anytime a man tries to go leet on me. I have to let it roll of my back and ignore them. Or shove back and let them know they just need to move on.

[Tradesonred]

What are you guys just trying to have the attitude of someone from 1999 and think that its ok to use words like that?

Is there some secret club/inside joke that I'm not aware of?

Do you wear pillowcases on your heads when you meet?

It really is sad.

Your kids are going to find these posts one day and be like holy shit my dad was an asshole, FYI.

/eom

People around here (on red99 anyway, dont read blue much) are pretty fucking stupid (act stupid more like it, its not like i think theyre biologically incapable of thinking), i think that might have something to do with it.

They made a link between conservative thinking and stupidity

http://www.livescience.com/18132-intelligence-social-conservatism-racism.html

[Portasaurus]

There are probably 10-20 people who make the p99 community look like a horrible. horrible, terrible, awful, horrible place. Did I mention horrible?

If you spend more than a week on the forums, it becomes painfully obvious who these asshats are.

From there, it is easy to mentally isolate everything they say from the rest of the community.

[|3igHurb]

I am a supporter of LGBTQ issues and all of the like.

Most gamers are not homophobic. Most gamers don't give a ferq about your sexuality. Rival gamers will use it as ammo to get a rise out of you. Others it is a term of endearment like 'bro', 'dude', etc.

No. It doesn't make it anymore acceptable, but you're submerging yourself in a 'zero ferqs given zone' when gaming. Either you grow some thick skin and roll with the jabs. Or you wince at the butthurt and go home.

I get a lot of crap and hassle for being a female gamer. I can't cry and be a damsel in distress anytime a man tries to go leet on me. I have to let it roll of my back and ignore them. Or shove back and let them know they just need to move on.

your forehead is big and you are probably an alcoholic. how much vodka do u drink per hour

[Ghordo]

I remember when this Emulator was good 2009-2011 was golden times.

[Rhambuk]

I remember when this Emulator was good 2009-2011 was golden times.

we need a project 09 to simulate how good p99 used to be

[iruinedyourday]

There are probably 10-20 people who make the p99 community look like a horrible. horrible, terrible, awful, horrible place. Did I mention horrible?

If you spend more than a week on the forums, it becomes painfully obvious who these asshats are.

From there, it is easy to mentally isolate everything they say from the rest of the community.

Yea I have come to this conclusion.

On a side note swish got banned for gore, but people don't for using inappropriate language. So I think the real answer to my question is, bad moderation.

On a side note, occasionally I get the urge to type a word I never would have before I joined the forums. So it is contagious. Which is also sad :(

[Rhambuk]

On a side note swish got banned for gore, but people don't for using inappropriate language. So I think the real answer to my question is, bad moderation.

selective moderation is pretty dumb. petty much gave up censoring myself around the time the botb dudes thread came up in rnf, its okay to post breasts and full frontal porn but put a penis in and it gets removed.

you could be forum banned/susp for literally nothing then go down 2 threads to see hardcore porn and death threats.

So say what you will and let the cards all where they may!

[thedezgyrl]

your forehead is big and you are probably an alcoholic. how much vodka do u drink per hour

Ouch. I am so offended. Let me go guzzle down that bottle of vodka til I succumb to poisoning.
//sarcasm//

[loramin]

When I started reading this thread I thought to myself "all right, finally a conversation about the toxic language on this forum." After all, it's messed up how many people here use language that treats others as inferior beings. Then I kept reading and ... well look, iruinedyourday I give you props for calling out an important issue, but man you need to work on your people skills!

If you want to change people's minds (assuming they're not trolls or actual KKK), yelling/screaming/arguing with them won't work. That just puts them on the defensive, makes them argue for their position, and then they believe it even more strongly than before you started.

Instead, you have to engage with them: appeal to their better nature and try and treat them like fellow human beings instead of as adversaries.

So yeah, whether a forum post says "that loser is gay" or "that loser is a failure" DOES matter. No one wants to see themselves or a group they belong to used as a placeholder for suckiness. But the only way to make others see that is to show it to them, not to berate them.

[|3igHurb]

Ouch. I am so offended. Let me go guzzle down that bottle of vodka til I succumb to poisoning.
//sarcasm//

i take it back u probably have a vagina... sorry to make fun of ur binge drinking im sure ur fun sober

[iruinedyourday]

i take it back u probably have a vagina... sorry to make fun of ur binge drinking im sure ur fun sober

Take your shit to rants and flames and stop being a QQ whiny cry baby.

[iruinedyourday]

When I started reading this thread I thought to myself "all right, finally a conversation about the toxic language on this forum." After all, it's messed up how many people here use language that treats others as inferior beings. Then I kept reading and ... well look, iruinedyourday I give you props for calling out an important issue, but man you need to work on your people skills!

If you want to change people's minds (assuming they're not trolls or actual KKK), yelling/screaming/arguing with them won't work. That just puts them on the defensive, makes them argue for their position, and then they believe it even more strongly than before you started.

Instead, you have to engage with them: appeal to their better nature and try and treat them like fellow human beings instead of as adversaries.

So yeah, whether a forum post says "that loser is gay" or "that loser is a failure" DOES matter. No one wants to see themselves or a group they belong to used as a placeholder for suckiness. But the only way to make others see that is to show it to them, not to berate them.

Sure, sure, I get it yea. We all need to work on our people skills. I am not even close to even close to perfect.

You cant say anything critical on the internet without someone interpreting you as a screaming lunatic.

Fact is I started the thread with a few jokes and after reading like 2 or 3 responses my mind filled with rage. I am dumbfounded that people are able to find offence in someone calling them a nazi.

Anyway - yea thanks for your feedback. I wish I was some awesome perfect person that is calm and collected and all that. But I'm not. I am one of you, a nerd on a forum. I just happen to think that the mods on this forum should ban people for having signatures that say '100% f----'.

Hence me telling that guy to go f** off, right up above. Sorry.

PS I have heard it all before either on this thread or via PM so please just focus on teh subject on hand - change the discussion to be more in line with how you would like it to be (the last few comments have been and it is exactly what I was hoping for).

Cant promise I wont fly off the handle and yell via the internet at someone though because well people are people.

*EDIT* Also, just also - I really want you loramin (and everyone else discussing my tact) to think hard about this question. If someone is part of a minority and when they do speak up and you think its OK to tell them to change the way they speak up for any reason - are you really being fair? are you not just enabling a new way to silence the minority from being able to speak out? You don't know them, what they've gone through, or what state they are in. By changing the subject to their personal style or grace asking them to conform once again to a model you see fit, you are doing the same as someone who is telling them shut up or sit down?. I want you to seriously think about that - it may not be your intent but it is a very real consequence. It matters not for how they speak but only what it is they have to say.

[jarshale]

I am dumbfounded that people are able to find offence in someone calling them a nazi.


Most people don't like being called nazis.

[Rhambuk]

Most people don't like being called nazis.

I didn't think they did

[Cecily]

I was kinda proud of TMO getting Germany in the P99 WW2 thread. *shrug*

[iruinedyourday]

Most people don't like being called nazis.

rofl yea ok ok yea haha... I mean like - what I am trying to say is I wish people would take a step back when someone called them a nazi and be like, whoah what did I deserve to be called a nazi?! Insted of being all HOW DARE YOU!

If someone name calls you something you gotta be like whoah what did I do?

like I am seriously apologetic for being garish.. And I can admit I am, and I see why I am wrong for it. But I ask to not let that get in teh way of the discussion and I really want people to realise its not cool to use hate speach.

LIke u know how like a terrible christian band is like trying to be cool and hip to speak to a new demographic?

My OP was like me being a terrible forumposter - trying to be hip and cool to speak to the demographic.

It failed as bad as christian hiphop videos fail.

[Tradesonred]

Talkin about nazis, you cant reason with nazis, you cant be diplomatic with nazis, you can just fight nazis, thats the only thing they understand.

[loramin]

*EDIT* Also, just also - I really want you loramin (and everyone else discussing my tact) to think hard about this question. If someone is part of a minority and when they do speak up and you think its OK to tell them to change the way they speak up for any reason - are you really being fair?

Dude, I'm on your side. I agree that this forum shouldn't have hate speech on it (except RnF of course, which is meant to be an "anything goes" forum).

My point was just that you should consider what you're trying to accomplish. If your goal is to rant at people then rant away. But if your goal is to convince people not to use offensive language, you're going to have more success by treating the people you're trying to convince as allies rather than as adversaries.

[loramin]

http://deploreibol.files.wordpress.com/2012/05/illinois-nazis.jpg

[iruinedyourday]

Dude, I'm on your side. I agree that this forum shouldn't have hate speech on it (except RnF of course, which is meant to be an "anything goes" forum).

My point was just that you should consider what you're trying to accomplish. If your goal is to rant at people then rant away. But if your goal is to convince people not to use offensive language, you're going to have more success by treating the people you're trying to convince as allies rather than as adversaries.

hey bud, why would you think I didn't think you were on my side or that I didn't consider what you said, considering that I apologized like 9 times since you posted for my garrish forum conversational skills?

Now can you please consider, considering something I asked you to consider please? Instead of assuming me asking you to consider something was me saying that you are my enemy and must be destroyed? I mean literately I'm asking you to 'think hard' in the block of text you Quoted - which literally mans to consider something.

[Rhambuk]

that's a lot to /con

[iruinedyourday]

that's a lot to /con

I wanted to fit more in there but it felt like maybe i was becoming redundant :P

like this thread.

haha oh man...

the last week where it slowly drifted down to page 2 was like, such a great week.

speaking of which, my kid is gonna think I was such a looser when he finds this.

[loramin]

I really want you loramin (and everyone else discussing my tact) to think hard about this question. If someone is part of a minority and when they do speak up and you think its OK to tell them to change the way they speak up for any reason - are you really being fair? are you not just enabling a new way to silence the minority from being able to speak out? You don't know them, what they've gone through, or what state they are in. By changing the subject to their personal style or grace asking them to conform once again to a model you see fit, you are doing the same as someone who is telling them shut up or sit down?. I want you to seriously think about that - it may not be your intent but it is a very real consequence. It matters not for how they speak but only what it is they have to say.

Ok, I /con-ed it for 3.5 seconds. No it's not fair to tell anyone, minority or not, to shut up or speak differently. But when someone is using offensive language I do think it's ok to explain to them why that language is offensive and let them decide what language to use. I also think it's ok for minorities to explain me (or anyone else) how the language I'm using is offensive.

speaking of which, my kid is gonna think I was such a looser when he finds this.

Well yeah when you spell "loser" like that ;) But really, one has to hope your future progeny have better things to do than read 20+ year old elf simulator forums.

[Rhambuk]

Well yeah when you spell "loser" like that ;) But really, one has to hope your future progeny have better things to do than read 20+ year old elf simulator forums.

I hope they learn from our mistakes!

[iruinedyourday]

Ty for your understanding.

But dont you think if you could read what your parrents did for fun 30 years before you were born you would jump at the oportunity? Idk I imagine in the future youll be able to have robots just complie every thing linked to everything and they will find this stuff :P

cant hide nothing on the internet...

unless you live in England - they got some powerful privacy laws there from what I am aware of.

*edit* but I Hope your right, or my kid is going to think I'm such a loser... and probably be just as bad at spelling as I am cus who cares Ill be teaching him whats important in life! :)

[Reguiy]

Two words, the Midwest. Seems like a lot of people who play eq are from the Midwest. That probably explains the homophobia.

[phacemeltar]

it disgusts me when people confuse homophobia with the practice of hate.

phobias are generally not an intentional point of view, and considering todays popular stance on gender-roles and sexuality, i would expect folks to have a little more sympathy for those suffering from such a disorder.

think about it this way, would you rag on someone for being afraid of the dark?

[Ennewi]

it disgusts me when people confuse homophobia with hate.

phobias are generally not an intentional point of view, and considering todays popular stance on gender-roles and sexuality, i would expect folks to have a little more sympathy for those suffering from such a disorder.

Except actual phobias dredge up anxiety/stress and not disgust as homophobia does. Have yet to meet anyone who was so terrified of "the gay" that they actually had an anxiety attack and fainted at the sight of two lesbians necking. Homophobic people aren't suffering, they're only making others around them have to suffer for their own ignorance.

[georgie]

Except actual phobias dredge up anxiety/stress and not disgust as homophobia does. Have yet to meet anyone who was so terrified of "the gay" that they actually had an anxiety attack and fainted at the sight of two lesbians necking. Homophobic people aren't suffering, they're only making others around them have to suffer for their own ignorance.

they are now dead that is why.

[iruinedyourday]

it disgusts me when people confuse homophobia with the practice of hate.

homophobic bigot racists tend to be a little sensitive, especially when you call them a bigot or a racist... so people call them homophobic in hopes that they wont immediately fly off the handle and act like they are being persecuted. :p

[Sadre Spinegnawer]

two words: intranets.

Anonymity allows a lot of people to act the fool. Back in the late 90's early 00's, I thought this was nothing but good, because unlike in real life, people just let it hang out, and usually most forums sorted out assholes from merely people with a nasty tongue.

I remember back around 2006, my guild leader called a member who was on chemo "cancer boy." The internet can be funny and visious at the same time.

But, I wonder if people understand the point.

I would argue, when something isn't funny, no sense in throwing around shit.

Not sure if gay jokes are in that category. No interest in deciding. My humor doesn't use those kinds of jokes, so the entire issue can suck a bag full of dicks as far as I would care. And not like there is anything wrong with that.

[|3igHurb]

I have been calling people faggy since I was in junior high.

If I don't know how to behave, it is because I am just so far the opposite way.

You know?

I'm just... I... I can't even imagine the thing...

Maybe we could go out for a beer sometime and you could tell me how you do that to another dude.

[murrpau]

I have been calling people faggy since I was in junior high.

If I don't know how to behave, it is because I am just so far the opposite way.

You know?

I'm just... I... I can't even imagine the thing...

Maybe we could go out for a beer sometime and you could tell me how you do that to another dude.

Because you've been told (indirectly) your entire life that you should be like those white, straight, male-born, skinny, neurotypical, able-bodied heroes on TV and in movies and in charge at businesses/government agencies and in advertising.

In fact, it's funny to call someone "faggy" isn't it? Because it means they're somehow not as... something as you are? Moral? Smart? Disciplined?

It's funny calling someone retarded too, right? That always gets a laugh. Because it makes you think "Even though they have no control over the way they are, I get to feel superior to them somehow"

What else? It's funny to jokingly call someone fat, or maybe try to convince someone that they're fat?

Or say "He got choked out like a little girl in that UFC fight", because girls are somehow inferior to you, because that's what you've been told your entire life.

You can google "privilege" sometime on your own and do some reading. That's neither me nor you; that's a system that's in place to make life better for certain people by making it worse for others. But let me ask you, personally, this:

Did you choose to be straight?(check one)
□YES BECAUSE I DON'T LIKE TAKING IT IN THE BUTT
□NO I WAS BORN THIS WAY FAGGOT DON'T TOUCH ME

If yes: Choosing to be straight means that you have feelings, whether romantic or sexual, toward the same sex, that you chose to ignore. Congratulations! You're not actually straight. Don't tell any of your dudebro friends; they'll call you a faggot.

If no: Oh, so you were born a certain sexuality? Why don't you try a different sexuality for the next 30 days, and tell me how much changing works out for you? I wouldn't want to either, so don't do that if you don't want to. And don't ask anyone else to.

But a fucking FACT is that when you watch porn and masturbate, you're either
1) staring at another dude's dick as it does stuff
2) watching two gay chicks do gay stuff

[|3igHurb]

im going to beat your dick off with both hands

http://theoffice.wikia.com/wiki/Gay_Witch_Hunt_Quotes

this thread... p funny thanks to me

[|3igHurb]

lol i finally read ur post... two things:

you dont call retarded people retards... you call your friends retards when they're acting retarded

and

little girls literally would be easy to choke

giggling right now

[murrpau]

And why's it called homophobia instead of bigotry/oppression? Because back when the word first showed up in the 60s, it was about the fear that someone might think you're gay when you're not.
Then in the 90s, it was more of the "I'm afraid that I might be gay" which became projected forms of disgust and hatred, often on actual gay people. Like in the Journal of Abnormal Psychology, 1996, when this guy took 5 self-proclaimed heterosexual men into a room, fitted them with a device that measured penis circumference, and showed them gay porn. 4 out of the 5 "straight" men had a sexual arousal response.

Another reason it's a fear thing: You're afraid of someone sticking his hoohoodilly in your pooper without your consent. That's the #1 reason you stay out of prison, right? Well congratulations! You're now the most sympathetic human to the condition of being a woman in the 21st century! See, you're scared that a man(gay or maybe just prisongay) will treat you like a woman (rape you) and so you're afraid (just like women live every day afraid of every man they know) of these potential rapists (although at least you only have to fear the gay ones, mostly)
And finally: It's a phobia because of how emotions work and biochemistry happens in the brain. Hate is a powerful survival response. We hate those who are different from us. Why?
Because your ancestors killed or enslaved everyone different from them and you are walking, typing proof of the evolutionary success of that policy.
But where does hate come from? When it comes to people, we generally fear those who are different. When we were in caves and people came along with another skin color, speaking another language, dressing differently, eating food that smelled differently, worshiping a different god, even fucking differently, we were afraid. So we killed or enslaved them before they did it to us.
Why? Because they threatened to take away everything you love. They might enslave your family. They might force you to eat their stinky food. They might force you to learn their language which sounds goofy as hell. They might make you dress in a hot pink loincloth and slap your ass every time you walk by. They might force you to worship their god or die.

Fear is where hate comes from, both as a social expression, or as a biochemical response. I'm going to stick to one or two chemicals though, so this doesn't turn into a 30-page lecture. How about adrenaline?
We know fear causes adrenaline response (from the adrenal gland, which lots of living things have or have a version of), and adrenaline has a few effects:
*Increased heart rate
*increased blood pressure
*expanding air passages of the lungs
*dilated pupils
*redistributing blood to the muscles
*altering metabolism to maximize glucose levels in the blood

It also makes you more aggressive. Why? Because of fight-or-flight. If you're going to fight, having dilated pupils in the dark might give you the edge over your opponent. And so on for the rest of them; it's all a 41% haste +100 AGI +100 DEX +100 STR +100 ATK buff when cast at max level.

We don't get to kill things that often nowadays, so instead we get on so-called "news" networks and talk about stuff like "HOMOSEXUAL AGENDA" and how scary it is because that's how we sell more books and other media for when our troll talkshow finally goes off the air. It's still all rooted in fear: Either the fear that a gay dude is going to stick it in your butt, or a fear that your wife is going to run off with another woman, or the fear that those dreams you're having are real and you're the very thing you made fun of and called "faggy" all through high school.

[murrpau]

lol i finally read ur post... two things:

you dont call retarded people retards... you call your friends retards when they're acting retarded

and

little girls literally would be easy to choke

giggling right now

Yeah, sorry, The Office wasn't really something I'd sit through more than a few episodes of. Sorry I missed the reference. Maybe if I was drunk, or stoned, I'd be more into it. (But "That's what she said!" jokes are always funny, no exceptions*)
I'm not going to google all of your posts in the future to see whether they're original thoughts or not; I'll give the benefit of the doubt that I'm talking to someone behind a keyboard, not a team of sitcom writers from a cancelled show.
And thank you for agreeing with me on the retarded thing. You call your friends retarded when they're acting in a way that makes them seem inferior, and makes you feel like you need to point it out, because you don't want others thinking that you're inferior in some way.
The same as you do when someone standing next to you accidentally touches your hand and you call him a faggot; you don't want him to call you a faggot first. You don't want anyone thinking you're gay. You don't want to be gay. Oh god what if you're gay? Better distract the issue and call him gay first!

Enjoy your giggle.

[iruinedyourday]

lol i finally read ur post... two things:

you dont call retarded people retards... you call your friends retards when they're acting retarded

and

little girls literally would be easy to choke

giggling right now

hey bud, frendly comment here :)

its totally ok that you dont understand anything about it really. Just know if you have ever been hurt by anything, there are people that are hurt so much worse when they hear or see those words.

it brings back memories that are so painful.

The bullying is so intense that often they kill themselves.

their families disown them, their friends abandon them.

so when they see your signature when they are trying to talk to people about a fun game that they got to play because they were able to shut out the real world and finally spend time with people in peace, it really hurts them. To know that out there people still hate them, even if the person is joking like your signiture, its funny, there are people there that do think that its not a joke and that really do hate them and spit at them and assault them and throw food at them when they walk the street.

It isnt asking much to sympathise with that and to just remove that joke when you arnt with close friends who feel the same in private.

Its just a thought to think about.

[phacemeltar]

i dont understand

[a_gnoll_pup]

this thread is so gay

[phacemeltar]

this thread is so gay

ftfy

[iruinedyourday]

just when you thought it was safe to not troll in the water.

[mtb tripper]

this thread is so gay

oh the irony

[katrik]

Much fags. Wow.

[|3igHurb]

iknoright

dont worry i take my sig off if i post outside RnF... usually.

[Rellapse40]

when the p99 trannies come here n call u nerds fgts

it is sad

lol

seek help

[Zadrian]

Lol Secrets called your thread gay.

[visage]

Why so serius faggot?