Why everyone left/joined Nihilum (all merged here)

[Agatha]

Alot of my friends from nihilum have been asking me why, and honestly it's such a big list of reasons i can't keep going over it with every single person.

This all started when i first joined the guild, and we started kicking out ragefire pearls. I have watched the ragefire loot rules change so many times, in order to out maneuver myself from aquiring the desired big loots, cloak of flames, etc. 4 times have loot rules changed, through 67 pearls, 67 ragefires spawned.

67 ragefires, 5 cloak of flames later, and 8 ragefire arms later, zooey still has neither. loot rules changes on the spot almost every time.

Things came to a head a few weeks back when the ragefire loot rules changed yet again, this time willian was in channel and he was so brazen to say "I don't want agatha having a bunch of cloak of flames".

What this came down to is, am i valued as a member, do i want to continue giving this guild my 12 hour days to a guild that does not trust me, nor value me and my contributions.

This all began with willan, and ended with willian, for some reason the duke value's this guys opinion above all else. He doesn't play, is terrible at playing, and is an all around asshole. Ever since the duke left to play d3 and he tried to take over during that brief period and failed horribly he singled me out for not attending his raids that were doomed from the start (anyone who would follow this guy into battle is a tard). Multitude's worse than lite at his worst type bad.

now, lets back up a bit, something went down in the guild that I'm not going to publicly address cause im not a scumbag, it was DKP related. and caused me to go through my personal logs and compare them to the DKP logs, i was at a 114dkp deficit with my brother who raids alot more than me missing quite a bit more than that. I looked at my competitors that i was neck and neck with over the course of a few months and would compare logs, there dkp was still advancing, staying above mine, when clearly according to my attendance logs i should be much further ahead. in jupes case it was much more clear a certain competitor of his who everyone clearly knows doesn't play was not only advancing but had jumped several hundred dkp out of thin air. This was clear targeted dkp manipulation.

This right here above is the main reason i left. below are some minor attributing factors that helped basically put me over the edge.

Nihilum has a big problem with what i call sand bag players, people who have put there time in at one point or another, that have earned the right in the leadership's eyes to show up once a week to VP, with there 800dkp, afk through the raid and win crowns and all the good stuff.

The regearing and roll over dkp of players that have RMT'd there characters in the past. enough said on that subject.

The allowance of bank access to items to players within the guild who are complete non factors, items going to people that will never use that item on there character to contribute towards a guild function in any shape or form, pixel hoarders that gear characters out and let them rot.

Bad players, screw ups on trivial shit, that we have done a million times, pets out while dragons are being pulled, forgeting to invis before we travel. proc weapons out on boss mobs pulling agro on enrage. meanwhile players like myself and others are giving it our all carrying the guild only to be beaten out by these players for loot.


So ya, i did what i did. And dont feel one bit bad about it. I thought Nihilum was going to be my saving grace on this server. the last true refuge. But i was wrong, dead wrong. In the coming weeks ill be assessing my situation and seeing if i can get a competing guild up and running, if not ill quit.

[Jib]

+1

[Andis]

good read

saying I told you so, is getting old so

hope to see you guys help with resistance once again

on that note - elderan the mastermind cooking the books - beyond laughable

nihilum is a fucking joke

[Colgate]

tldr

[Ames who?]

Alot of my friends from nihilum have been asking me why, and honestly it's such a big list of reasons i can't keep going over it with every single person.

This all started when i first joined the guild, and we started kicking out ragefire pearls. I have watched the ragefire loot rules change so many times, in order to out maneuver myself from aquiring the desired big loots, cloak of flames, etc. 4 times have loot rules changed, through 67 pearls, 67 ragefires spawned.

67 ragefires, 5 cloak of flames later, and 8 ragefire arms later, zooey still has neither. loot rules changes on the spot almost every time.

Things came to a head a few weeks back when the ragefire loot rules changed yet again, this time willian was in channel and he was so brazen to say "I don't want agatha having a bunch of cloak of flames".

What this came down to is, am i valued as a member, do i want to continue giving this guild my 12 hour days to a guild that does not trust me, nor value me and my contributions.

This all began with willan, and ended with willian, for some reason the duke value's this guys opinion above all else. He doesn't play, is terrible at playing, and is an all around asshole. Ever since the duke left to play d3 and he tried to take over during that brief period and failed horribly he singled me out for not attending his raids that were doomed from the start (anyone who would follow this guy into battle is a tard). Multitude's worse than lite at his worst type bad.

now, lets back up a bit, something went down in the guild that I'm not going to publicly address cause im not a scumbag, it was DKP related. and caused me to go through my personal logs and compare them to the DKP logs, i was at a 114dkp deficit with my brother who raids alot more than me missing quite a bit more than that. I looked at my competitors that i was neck and neck with over the course of a few months and would compare logs, there dkp was still advancing, staying above mine, when clearly according to my attendance logs i should be much further ahead. in jupes case it was much more clear a certain competitor of his who everyone clearly knows doesn't play was not only advancing but had jumped several hundred dkp out of thin air. This was clear targeted dkp manipulation.

This right here above is the main reason i left. below are some minor attributing factors that helped basically put me over the edge.

Nihilum has a big problem with what i call sand bag players, people who have put there time in at one point or another, that have earned the right in the leadership's eyes to show up once a week to VP, with there 800dkp, afk through the raid and win crowns and all the good stuff.

The regearing and roll over dkp of players that have RMT'd there characters in the past. enough said on that subject.

The allowance of bank access to items to players within the guild who are complete non factors, items going to people that will never use that item on there character to contribute towards a guild function in any shape or form, pixel hoarders that gear characters out and let them rot.

Bad players, screw ups on trivial shit, that we have done a million times, pets out while dragons are being pulled, forgeting to invis before we travel. proc weapons out on boss mobs pulling agro on enrage. meanwhile players like myself and others are giving it our all carrying the guild only to be beaten out by these players for loot.


So ya, i did what i did. And dont feel one bit bad about it. I thought Nihilum was going to be my saving grace on this server. the last true refuge. But i was wrong, dead wrong. In the coming weeks ill be assessing my situation and seeing if i can get a competing guild up and running, if not ill quit.

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[Gustoo]

Sounds sad sorry to hear that.

[no chewie dont]

Did not read
try livejournal.com

[Dacuk]

for some reason there are always conspiracies surrounding the boca bros. that being said given his playtime, this nurga should be one of the best geared person in guild

[Pikrib]

The person who farmed the pearl should get first loot rights imho.

if not ill quit.

Even though I don't know you... If you quit can I have your pixels?

[Nirgon]

Read 2 sentences.

Look at their 800 dkp then look at your post about how the neckbeards will win and everyone else will lose.

lol oooooo child

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[heartbrand]

for some reason there are always conspiracies surrounding the boca bros. that being said given his playtime, this nurga should be one of the best geared person in guild

last I checked he was. There's a couple of things truthful in this post, a lot of b.s., and then some black helicopter shit that sounds like typical agatha stories.

I don't think even Nizzar or the officer core would disagree about the concept that there are a lot of warm bodies in the guild who show up for raids, get loot, regardless of their "skill" or what not. That's because Everquest is a numbers game, not a skill game. EQ up through about Gates of Discord [somewhat PoP] was primarily about the skill of your pullers and healers, while everyone else just hit their one nuke or one auto attack or AA cool down. The only logical way to judge someones "contribution" therefore is how often they show up and hit the auto attack button. There are no scripted encounters, boss fights with adds that need tanking or events or anything like that.

The whole DKP rigging thing sounds straight out of Alex Jones.

Best part of this post though is how Agatha makes himself out to be a good player. The guy is terrible. In the words of Andis, "PEACE *****"

[Nirgon]

Ya'll actin' up over shit that is replaced within a month in Velious too.

Keep slavin'.

[diplo]

but i heard you got a PD robe pal.

[Susvain2]

agatha true saint. ran into him on my toon multiple times whether its innoruuk swamp or south karana. each time he gives me a friendly hello and sees my abysmal equipment and goes out of his way to help me out. running to the bank real quick..or takin an item off his toon and giving it to me.

this guy is good for the server

[Kergan]

The person who farmed the pearl should get first loot rights imho.


And that's exactly how it works, with the Cloak of Flames being the exception. You need to farm 10 pearls and then you can get a CoF, as we don't want to turn Ragefire into a plat generation tool for people in the guild. The armor is very valuable and one of the few ways you can get high quality gear on one of your alts and that is plenty enough reason to farm pearls.

Agatha went full retard right after we actually made it possible to get a CoF by farming pearls which is super weird. He almost certainly would have had one legitimately in the next week or two. Had he presented his case properly he would have had a decent shot at being awarded the one he stole, as him and Jupe have been very active at farming pearls and might have received credit for past contributions.

p.s. you didn't leave either, come on now. You stole something from a raid, lied about it and then when confronted with evidence you were gone. Had nobody noticed you stole shit you'd still be happily tagged so stop with the bullshit.

TLDR for Colgate: Agatha is full of shit.

[Agatha]

yea only after 67 pearls was i finally eligble for 1 COF per 10 pearls, IF IT dropped, hahahahaha. go fuck yourself. you are one of the sand bags.

[Nirgon]

Agatha just doesn't understand that there's nothing wrong with this server and that people with higher play times will always win

[Jib]

last I checked he was. There's a couple of things truthful in this post, a lot of b.s., and then some black helicopter shit that sounds like typical agatha stories.

I don't think even Nizzar or the officer core would disagree about the concept that there are a lot of warm bodies in the guild who show up for raids, get loot, regardless of their "skill" or what not. That's because Everquest is a numbers game, not a skill game. EQ up through about Gates of Discord [somewhat PoP] was primarily about the skill of your pullers and healers, while everyone else just hit their one nuke or one auto attack or AA cool down. The only logical way to judge someones "contribution" therefore is how often they show up and hit the auto attack button. There are no scripted encounters, boss fights with adds that need tanking or events or anything like that.

The whole DKP rigging thing sounds straight out of Alex Jones.

Best part of this post though is how Agatha makes himself out to be a good player. The guy is terrible. In the words of Andis, "PEACE *****"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8JNFNHpMddo

[Jib]

Agatha probably only stole because he was forced to in the first place from nihilum's greedy evil rmt ways. I see potential in this new lad

[Pikrib]

And that's exactly how it works, with the Cloak of Flames being the exception. You need to farm 10 pearls and then you can get a CoF, as we don't want to turn Ragefire into a plat generation tool for people in the guild. The armor is very valuable and one of the few ways you can get high quality gear on one of your alts and that is plenty enough reason to farm pearls.

Did he farm 10+ pearls or not?

I thought he said he farmed 67 pearls?

[Kergan]

yea only after 67 pearls was i finally eligble for 1 COF per 10 pearls, IF IT dropped, hahahahaha. go fuck yourself. you are one of the sand bags.

You had a legitimate case. Instead of saying, hey guys I've been popping ragefires for the last 3 months for us, can I be awarded a CoF for my efforts - you decided to steal it and get yourself run out of the guild.

I got like 200 DKP bro, no PD loots. My total list of items I've taken:
1. VS legs
2. Left eye
3. dragon bag
4. range slot spear from VP
5. buff hammer
6. fire dragon shield

So not sure if srs or dum with the sandbag comments, considering you defined it as:

Nihilum has a big problem with what i call sand bag players, people who have put there time in at one point or another, that have earned the right in the leadership's eyes to show up once a week to VP, with there 800dkp, afk through the raid and win crowns and all the good stuff.


Maybe you thought I was afk'in or something because I didn't buff you? That was because I had you on ignore due to all the loot trolls and mute in TS because of your annoying talking.

[Agatha]

Nihilum is in such a fragile state right now, any run of the mill players with high play time could take them out.

[Agatha]

You had a legitimate case. Instead of saying, hey guys I've been popping ragefires for the last 3 months for us, can I be awarded a CoF for my efforts - you decided to steal it and get yourself run out of the guild.

I got like 200 DKP bro, no PD loots. My total list of items I've taken:
1. VS legs
2. Left eye
3. dragon bag
4. range slot spear from VP
5. buff hammer
6. fire dragon shield

So not sure if srs or dum with the sandbag comments, considering you defined it as:

yes, you log in once a week for VP, grats. you are a sand bag player.

[Pikrib]

yea only after 67 pearls was i finally eligble for 1 COF per 10 pearls, IF IT dropped, hahahahaha. go fuck yourself. you are one of the sand bags.

So 77 pearls = 1 CoF?

intradesting

Sign me up as a Nihilum recruit straight away!

[Kergan]

Did he farm 10+ pearls or not?

I thought he said he farmed 67 pearls?

He is the reason the rule got changed. Leadership saw it wasn't fair and decided to put something in place where he could get a CoF. The 67 were before the change, but like I said, if he would have somehow been able to form coherent sentences and present his case he likely would have received one for his efforts.

[Agatha]

the worst part about this whole situation i that they took jupes COF to let him get back in the guild, and he is still farming ragefire, attending every raid.

literally nihilum has brainwashed my brother.

[Kergan]

yes, you log in once a week for VP, grats. you are a sand bag player.

Naw. Last 3 weeks for me:

06/22/14 PharaDar
06/22/14 Druusk
06/22/14 Silverwing
06/22/14 Hoshkar
06/21/14 Faydedar
06/21/14 Gorenaire
06/21/14 Severilous
06/21/14 Inny - H1
06/16/14 Ragefire
06/16/14 PoSky - H3
06/16/14 PoSky - H2
06/16/14 PoSky - H1
06/15/14 PharaDar
06/15/14 Ragefire
06/15/14 Druusk
06/15/14 Xygoz
06/15/14 Silverwing
06/15/14 CT - H1
06/15/14 Draco - H1
06/14/14 Ragefire
06/14/14 Inny - H1
06/14/14 Venril Sathir
06/14/14 Draco - H1
06/07/14 Venril Sathir

[Agatha]

He is the reason the rule got changed. Leadership saw it wasn't fair and decided to put something in place where he could get a CoF. The 67 were before the change, but like I said, if he would have somehow been able to form coherent sentences and present his case he likely would have received one for his efforts.

i did, and the loot rules were changed, again, that if i did 10 more ragefires id be elligble for it IF IT DROPPED. hahahaha... HAHAHAHAHAHAHA.

im no punk, i took what was owed, nothing more and nothing less, i gave the tstaff i was loaned back. All trades i currently have going ongoing i am honoring.

I'm just noone's bitch son. not to some elf nerd. nope.

[Jib]

Vulak is slipping thru Nilly's greasy cheeto encrusted finger tips

[Pikrib]

He is the reason the rule got changed. Leadership saw it wasn't fair and decided to put something in place where he could get a CoF. The 67 were before the change, but like I said, if he would have somehow been able to form coherent sentences and present his case he likely would have received one for his efforts.

Holy shit 67 pearls thats probably like 700 hours of play time. You didnt see fit to give him a CoF and some arms?

What was the rule before they changed it?

[Kergan]

the worst part about this whole situation i that they took jupes COF to let him get back in the guild, and he is still farming ragefire, attending every raid.

literally nihilum has brainwashed my brother.

Push's loot list:

06/21/14 Treasure's Hunter's Satchel Faydedar 1.00 9.00
03/17/14 Blood Orchid Katana Druusk 1.00 8.00
03/02/14 Pulsing Green Stone Venril Sathir 1.00 7.00
02/18/14 Runed Bolster Belt Gorenaire 1.00 6.00
01/21/14 Mrylokar's Greaves Venril Sathir 1.00 5.00
01/10/14 Cloak of Flames Talendor 1.00 4.00
12/31/13 Dragon Hero Bracer Gorenaire 1.00 3.00
12/29/13 Katana of Flowing Water PharaDar 1.00 2.00
12/22/13 Razor Sharp Short Sword Xygoz 1.00 1.00

Pretty sure there is a CoF in there.

And yours:

06/08/14 Robe of the Azure Sky PharaDar 1.00 13.00
06/08/14 Dragon Hero Bracer Talendor 1.00 12.00
03/09/14 Shroud of Veeshan PharaDar 1.00 11.00
03/09/14 Fatesealer Hoshkar 1.00 10.00
03/02/14 Bone-Clasped Girdle Draco - H1 1.00 9.00
03/02/14 Shissar Apothic Staff Hoshkar 1.00 8.00
02/18/14 Sprinkler of Suffering Nexona 1.00 7.00
02/18/14 Smoldering Cudgel Xygoz 1.00 6.00
02/18/14 Shield of the Red Dragon Talendor 1.00 5.00
02/04/14 Tobrin's Mystical Eyepatch Vox - H1 1.00 4.00
02/01/14 Donal's Chestplate of Mourning Trakanon 1.00 3.00
01/28/14 Shield of the Water Dragon Faydedar 1.00 2.00
12/22/13 Shield of Elders PharaDar

Looks like you got all sorts of nice things for your effort.

[Agatha]

Naw. Last 3 weeks for me:

06/22/14 PharaDar
06/22/14 Druusk
06/22/14 Silverwing
06/22/14 Hoshkar
06/21/14 Faydedar
06/21/14 Gorenaire
06/21/14 Severilous
06/21/14 Inny - H1
06/16/14 Ragefire
06/16/14 PoSky - H3
06/16/14 PoSky - H2
06/16/14 PoSky - H1
06/15/14 PharaDar
06/15/14 Ragefire
06/15/14 Druusk
06/15/14 Xygoz
06/15/14 Silverwing
06/15/14 CT - H1
06/15/14 Draco - H1
06/14/14 Ragefire
06/14/14 Inny - H1
06/14/14 Venril Sathir
06/14/14 Draco - H1
06/07/14 Venril Sathir


how cute, 10 raids over a 3 week period. l0l christ.

[silo32]

Been a member of this guild for 8-9 months if this is true... sorry to see you go Agatha you and Jupe were good people, to me at least

I have some hot info from a personal perspective about this DKP and loot situation.

Will confirm Agatha and his self removal from the guild.

I ll have to post later late for work. 20 page thread by the time I respond.

[Jib]

Naw. Last 3 weeks for me:

06/22/14 PharaDar
06/22/14 Druusk
06/22/14 Silverwing
06/22/14 Hoshkar
06/21/14 Faydedar
06/21/14 Gorenaire
06/21/14 Severilous
06/21/14 Inny - H1
06/16/14 Ragefire
06/16/14 PoSky - H3
06/16/14 PoSky - H2
06/16/14 PoSky - H1
06/15/14 PharaDar
06/15/14 Ragefire
06/15/14 Druusk
06/15/14 Xygoz
06/15/14 Silverwing
06/15/14 CT - H1
06/15/14 Draco - H1
06/14/14 Ragefire
06/14/14 Inny - H1
06/14/14 Venril Sathir
06/14/14 Draco - H1
06/07/14 Venril Sathir

This is exactly why we need variance. Would allow casual players to raid on a reglar basis and increase server population 3 fold

[Genedin]

Personal experience with Agatha.

Power lvl'd me when I joined server without knowing who I was, answered some questions, helped out where he could. I have no problems with the guy, sounds like he was getting used as a work-horse.

I hear there is a new opposition guild gaining a lot of traction with a fair DKP system and clean-whistle leader that just started getting its members into raid level and would possibly greatly benefit from a dedicated player. I'm not sure though I may be incorrect.

[Quiet]

Sounds like Azrael, except with less pixels to go around.

[Agatha]

Push's loot list:

06/21/14 Treasure's Hunter's Satchel Faydedar 1.00 9.00
03/17/14 Blood Orchid Katana Druusk 1.00 8.00
03/02/14 Pulsing Green Stone Venril Sathir 1.00 7.00
02/18/14 Runed Bolster Belt Gorenaire 1.00 6.00
01/21/14 Mrylokar's Greaves Venril Sathir 1.00 5.00
01/10/14 Cloak of Flames Talendor 1.00 4.00
12/31/13 Dragon Hero Bracer Gorenaire 1.00 3.00
12/29/13 Katana of Flowing Water PharaDar 1.00 2.00
12/22/13 Razor Sharp Short Sword Xygoz 1.00 1.00

Pretty sure there is a CoF in there.

And yours:

06/08/14 Robe of the Azure Sky PharaDar 1.00 13.00
06/08/14 Dragon Hero Bracer Talendor 1.00 12.00
03/09/14 Shroud of Veeshan PharaDar 1.00 11.00
03/09/14 Fatesealer Hoshkar 1.00 10.00
03/02/14 Bone-Clasped Girdle Draco - H1 1.00 9.00
03/02/14 Shissar Apothic Staff Hoshkar 1.00 8.00
02/18/14 Sprinkler of Suffering Nexona 1.00 7.00
02/18/14 Smoldering Cudgel Xygoz 1.00 6.00
02/18/14 Shield of the Red Dragon Talendor 1.00 5.00
02/04/14 Tobrin's Mystical Eyepatch Vox - H1 1.00 4.00
02/01/14 Donal's Chestplate of Mourning Trakanon 1.00 3.00
01/28/14 Shield of the Water Dragon Faydedar 1.00 2.00
12/22/13 Shield of Elders PharaDar

Looks like you got all sorts of nice things for your effort.

awesome, i have a fully geared cleric that only helps nihilum......... LOL? but when it comes time to gear my chars i actualy give a shit about, my rogue, im cockblocked. fucking blow me kid. FUCKING BLOW ME.

[Kergan]

Holy shit 67 pearls thats probably like 700 hours of play time. You didnt see fit to give him a CoF and some arms?

What was the rule before they changed it?

It was pretty discretionary. I don't make the choice on where loot goes, nor do I have any say in any of these things. Despite what people think the leadership of Nihilum is generally very flexible if people have legitimate complaints.

If it were up to me, I'd have given him a CoF. Keep in mind CoF isn't the only item off of RF worth farming pearls for, pretty sure their plate wearing characters are fully decked in RF armor.

[derpcake]

You had a legitimate case. Instead of saying, hey guys I've been popping ragefires for the last 3 months for us, can I be awarded a CoF for my efforts - you decided to steal it and get yourself run out of the guild.

I got like 200 DKP bro, no PD loots. My total list of items I've taken:
1. VS legs
2. Left eye
3. dragon bag
4. range slot spear from VP
5. buff hammer
6. fire dragon shield

So not sure if srs or dum with the sandbag comments, considering you defined it as:


Maybe you thought I was afk'in or something because I didn't buff you? That was because I had you on ignore due to all the loot trolls and mute in TS because of your annoying talking.

I dunno what kind of loot system you guys are running, but if the fucker actually came up with SIXTYSEVEN pearls, and STILL HAS TO ASK for a CoF...

That thai child labor shit ain't got squat on you guys.

[Genedin]

Sounds like Azrael, except with less pixels to go around.

Negative Nancy, you join nilly yet?

You helped me farm my seb key out the of kindness of your heart, consider you a pal but you constantly jump off the deep end. I really wish you would get it together so you could once again be a valued part of a team.

[Kergan]

awesome, i have a fully geared cleric that only helps nihilum......... LOL? but when it comes time to gear my chars i actualy give a shit about, my rogue, im cockblocked. fucking blow me kid. FUCKING BLOW ME.

Yet you were one of the people fighting vehemently against people switching mains. Nobody forced you to play a cleric bro.

Face it man, you tried to ninja some shit and got busted. Like I said before had you gotten away with it you'd still be in the guild so stop making this into some martyr bullshit.

[derpcake]

If it were up to me, I'd have given him a CoF.

Can you explain why it didn't happen?

After 67 pearls?

[Mac Drettj]

Agatha is a compulsive liar.

He was the "ugh do we have to?" Part of the Jupe Nihil um signing.

Say what u want about the bubble boy but he was an extremely useful and quality guildy.

15 characters with vp gear not enough. C u in velious.

[Kergan]

I dunno what kind of loot system you guys are running, but if the fucker actually came up with SIXTYSEVEN pearls, and STILL HAS TO ASK for a CoF...

That thai child labor shit ain't got squat on you guys.

Farming pearls is voluntary. He isn't the only one doing it. Personally, knowing I had no chance at a CoF farming pearls I would stop after I'm done gearing out my alts and shit in RF armor and let someone else take over. It isn't like he was the only person willing to do it.

It would be like me as a salaried employee working a ton of overtime when I've been told there is no bonus for doing it, then demanding a bonus for the time I put in.

[Agatha]

Can you explain why it didn't happen?

After 67 pearls?

one word, one person, willian. someone who doesnt even play got to dictate and measure my worth and cockblock me from getting them. and the leadership went along with it.

You guys lost a strong 12 hour a day player to someone who doesn't even play. i hope this wakes the leadership up. cause i might be the first to leave over this, but i certainly wont be the last if this isnt fixed

[Kergan]

one word, one person, willian. someone who doesnt even play got to dictate and measure my worth and cockblock me from getting them. and the leadership went along with it.

You guys lost a strong 12 hour a day player to someone who doesn't even play. i hope this wakes the leadership up. cause i might be the first to leave over this, but i certainly wont be the last if this isnt fixed

You're dumb if you think Willan has any power to do what you say he does.

[derpcake]

Farming pearls is voluntary. He isn't the only one doing it.

It would be like me as a salaried employee working a ton of overtime when I've been told there is no bonus for doing it, then demanding a bonus for the time I put in.

So you are saying those that are still doing it should expect absolutely nothing from it?

Besides your own non-appreciation of their efforts?

That makes me view you and your guild in a bad light.

[Tassador]

Just hope nizzar not involved in these decisions or integrity may be ruined.

[Pikrib]

It was pretty discretionary. I don't make the choice on where loot goes, nor do I have any say in any of these things. Despite what people think the leadership of Nihilum is generally very flexible if people have legitimate complaints.

If it were up to me, I'd have given him a CoF. Keep in mind CoF isn't the only item off of RF worth farming pearls for, pretty sure their plate wearing characters are fully decked in RF armor.

WTF does Discretionary mean? Does this mean that it was at the discretion of the officers on the raid? Do you guys kinda make up the rules as you go?

Nihilum uses a fair DKP system -- the only officer/leader input is in which classes can acquire X items first. The more you play, the more gear you get!

www.nihilumguild.com is where you apply!

I thought u guys used a DKP system?

[Kergan]

So you are saying those that are still doing it should expect absolutely nothing from it?

Besides your own non-appreciation of their efforts?

That makes me view you and your guild in a bad light.

That's the exact opposite of what I'm saying.

What you get from farming pearls in Nihilum:
1. First choice of loot (CoF excluded)
2. After 10 pearls you can get choose a CoF if it drops

People act like camping out a spare toon at the mob respawn and killing shit a couple times a day is a ton of effort or something.

[lite]

one word, one person, willian. someone who doesnt even play got to dictate and measure my worth and cockblock me from getting them. and the leadership went along with it.

You guys lost a strong 12 hour a day player to someone who doesn't even play. i hope this wakes the leadership up. cause i might be the first to leave over this, but i certainly wont be the last if this isnt fixed

Your threats mean absolutely nothing, you idiot. This is all perfectly in accordance to plan. Nihilum mass recruited so that no one individual actually matters. You and 20 other could leave and it would mean absolutely nothing, because of the size and the 0 criteria that it takes to be in and remain in Nihilum. Grats on finding out just how much of a warm body you were this whole time.

[Kergan]

WTF does Discretionary mean? Does this mean that it was at the discretion of the officers on the raid? Do you guys kinda make up the rules as you go?



I thought u guys used a DKP system?

One thing Agatha was right about was the rules did change a couple times, and sometimes it even depended what officers were present. That's why the current rules were established so everyone knows what they are.

We don't really use a standard DKP system, it's more of attendance tracking and loot awarded by council. In my almost year in Nihilum I've only seen 2-3 people throw a fit over loot, and that is a lot of loot being handed out. Our system works just fine overall, but as with anything there is room for improvement. The RF loot changes were an example of this.

[Jib]

1. First choice of loot (CoF excluded)


yikes

[Kergan]

Your threats mean absolutely nothing, you idiot. This is all perfectly in accordance to plan. Nihilum mass recruited so that no one individual actually matters. You and 20 other could leave and it would mean absolutely nothing, because of the size and the 0 criteria that it takes to be in and remain in Nihilum. Grats on finding out just how much of a warm body you were this whole time.

Very astute post by Lite. The machine breaks down far too often if every single tiny piece of it needs to be working at 100% efficiency to operate. :)

[Agatha]

People act like camping out a spare toon at the mob respawn and killing shit a couple times a day is a ton of effort or something.



hahhahah, ok, so. this is how i do it, i camp one toon there, farm it, can take anywhere from 2-5 hours, longer if its bad. now i do that with 5 toons.

next, i camp bergergle crowns, those can take anywhere from 3-22 hours to get.

next i run all 5 toons to naxot, corpse them

next i run each character out to OOT natasha, corpse them.

next i do the turn ins.

again, go fuck yourself.

[Jib]

In my almost year in Nihilum I've only seen 2-3 people throw a fit over loot

so out of over 100 players only 2-3 werent completely retarded?

[Kergan]

yikes

So, as a current guildleader what would you do?

Allow the person monopolizing the pearl farming to put 10 CoFs in the bank?

[Vile]

holy shit pixel disease to the god damn brain

[derpcake]

That's the exact opposite of what I'm saying.

What you get from farming pearls in Nihilum:
1. First choice of loot (CoF excluded)
2. After 10 pearls you can get choose a CoF if it drops

People act like camping out a spare toon at the mob respawn and killing shit a couple times a day is a ton of effort or something.

So you guys owe him 6-7 CoFs based on 2. but never gave him one?

Ok then.

[Drakaris]

Agatha, I know this has been brewing for a while and I have to say you are an awesome guildy. You and your bro always raise your hands to help especially doing the mundane shit no one likes to do like Levi cloaks and ragefire pearls. I would say ur brothers tracker is personally responsible for more than 50% of the lev cloaks obtained in the past 3-6 months.

I am sure you have valid points and I definitely would like to see some of the logs you have gotten and compare it with the actual DKP.

No matter what happens I hope you don't quit, you are good for the server and have helped out so many people including myself.

[Pikrib]

We don't really use a standard DKP system, it's more of attendance tracking and loot awarded by council. In my almost year in Nihilum I've only seen 2-3 people throw a fit over loot, and that is a lot of loot being handed out. Our system works just fine overall, but as with anything there is room for improvement. The RF loot changes were an example of this.

It should be called a loot council.

Nihilum uses a fair DKP system -- the only officer/leader input is in which classes can acquire X items first. The more you play, the more gear you get!


This is a lie.

[lite]

I am just glad Vaporize's 8th alt has no problem getting a CoF. Then again, he did enter the server through a $500 RMT purchase that went wrong, which he made very public. So of course he'll have NP getting items in nilly.

[Kergan]

So you guys owe him 6-7 CoFs based on 2. but never gave him one?

Ok then.

You saw his list of loot, he is one of the top 3 or 4 geared clerics on the server. We don't owe him shit.

He farmed every one of those pearls knowing full well he wasn't getting a CoF.

[derpcake]

Farming pearls is voluntary. He isn't the only one doing it.

So, as a current guildleader what would you do?

Allow the person monopolizing the pearl farming to put 10 CoFs in the bank?

I would indicate 1 or perhaps 2 spokespeople for the guild, and ask other people not to post, to prevent them stumbling over their own posts.

[Jib]

You saw his list of loot, he is one of the top 3 or 4 geared clerics on the server. We don't owe him shit.

He farmed every one of those pearls knowing full well he wasn't getting a CoF.

i would never treat anybody like this that farmed 67 pearls... I'd build a statue of them

[derpcake]

You saw his list of loot, he is one of the top 3 or 4 geared clerics on the server. We don't owe him shit.

You posted before that people can get a CoF every 10 pearls?

And you aren't denying that he got 60+ pearls?

I guess reason, consistency and common sense have left the thread :)

[Tassador]

Can't you get a cof for like 90k that's like 45 hours of seafuries as opposed to 1000 hours of pearls or whatever.

[Kergan]

It should be called a loot council.



This is a lie.

I wouldn't really call it a lie. DKP and previous items awarded are 99.99% of the decision on who gets loot. People with more DKP get an item over someone with less with very few exceptions. The difference between our system and a standard DKP system is DKP isn't spent, at least not yet.

The fact of the matter is people just don't bitch about loot much in Nihilum. So you can try to poke holes in our methods all you want, the people actually in the guild are fine with it. Even Agatha isn't complaining about the DKP system.

[rusty81]

Why no one cares that you left...

[Kergan]

I would indicate 1 or perhaps 2 spokespeople for the guild, and ask other people not to post, to prevent them stumbling over their own posts.

I don't see those statements as contradictory. One was hypothetical in nature. Agatha/Push farmed more pearls than anyone, but had they stopped we'd still be doing Ragefire almost every day. Maybe that clears it up for you?

[Kergan]

You posted before that people can get a CoF every 10 pearls?

And you aren't denying that he got 60+ pearls?

I guess reason, consistency and common sense have left the thread :)

I've said about 100 times in this thread, the 10 pearls and you can get a CoF rule is new. He farmed those 67 pearls knowing CoF was not an option.

Now personally if I was in a position to make decisions and Agatha came to me and said...hey man, I know we just changed the rule but I've done 67 pearls can you just count those 67 as my 10 so I can take a CoF next time I spawn a RF and it drops - I'd have no problem saying yes. But to my knowledge that conversation never took place, he just tried to steal one instead. But that is Agatha, not the most rational person.

[Sweetbaby Jesus]

Agatha am I the competitor of Jupe's that you are referring to? If so I can explain that do boost pretty easily

[Agatha]

I don't see those statements as contradictory. One was hypothetical in nature. Agatha/Push farmed more pearls than anyone, but had they stopped we'd still be doing Ragefire almost every day. Maybe that clears it up for you?

wrong, we did stop, how many ragefires have you done? lol... you dont play day to day son. you have no idea what you are talking about. stop digging your grave.

[Agatha]

when i did stop i got accused of hoarding pearls, and would be yelled at to go do pearls, go spawn natasha, why havnt u spawned natasha, were are your pearls. LOL.

kergan, you are a sandbag player once a week player and you are talking out of your ass. just stop.

[Pikrib]

Kergan in a DKP system the officers dont decide who gets loot. Your DKP decides who gets loot.

[derpcake]

Agatha/Push farmed more pearls than anyone

So it seems reasonable he should have gotten a CoF every 10 ragefires. Or at least 1 for the monumental effort. Then again thats also what you think.

Sounds like Agatha put in effort way too long without noticing the expected reward wasn't coming.

[Jib]

Uploaded on Feb 12, 2012

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XROXH5gMd28

GodKing Jibekn leaves Nihilum due to guild corruption, RMT scandals, exploiting, lack of skilled pvp players.

[derpcake]

Naw. Last 3 weeks for me:

06/22/14 PharaDar
06/22/14 Druusk
06/22/14 Silverwing
06/22/14 Hoshkar
06/21/14 Faydedar
06/21/14 Gorenaire
06/21/14 Severilous
06/21/14 Inny - H1
06/16/14 Ragefire
06/16/14 PoSky - H3
06/16/14 PoSky - H2
06/16/14 PoSky - H1
06/15/14 PharaDar
06/15/14 Ragefire
06/15/14 Druusk
06/15/14 Xygoz
06/15/14 Silverwing
06/15/14 CT - H1
06/15/14 Draco - H1
06/14/14 Ragefire
06/14/14 Inny - H1
06/14/14 Venril Sathir
06/14/14 Draco - H1
06/07/14 Venril Sathir

Does Ragefire not award dkp, or do you never do it?

[rusty81]

Didn't see the part where it states.

Why no one gave a shit. And nothing ever changes on this server. WHY because its the same old song errrday.

[Kergan]

wrong, we did stop, how many ragefires have you done? lol... you dont play day to day son. you have no idea what you are talking about. stop digging your grave.

Well I guess we'll figure out who is right in a few weeks.

Remind me and I'll post the Ragefire kills now that you're not spawning them. We'll see if somehow we find a way as a guild to farm pearls.

And I've done 0. I've also received 0 loot from Ragefire but been present to kill him plenty of times so that people who farmed pearls could get loot, seems pretty fair to me.

[Kergan]

Does Ragefire not award dkp, or do you never do it?

What? Ragefire appears twice in that list...

[Agatha]

Well I guess we'll figure out who is right in a few weeks.

Remind me and I'll post the Ragefire kills now that you're not spawning them. We'll see if somehow we find a way as a guild to farm pearls.

And I've done 0. I've also received 0 loot from Ragefire but been present to kill him plenty of times so that people who farmed pearls could get loot, seems pretty fair to me.

oh, push is still in your guild, nihilum has his hooks in him, and he is still farming ragefires because in order to stay in the guild he had to give his COF to the guild.

so what we have here is, 67 pearls, and jupe actually had to GIVE a cof back to the guild. hahahahaha, THE FUCK.

[Kergan]

So it seems reasonable he should have gotten a CoF every 10 ragefires. Or at least 1 for the monumental effort. Then again thats also what you think.

Sounds like Agatha put in effort way too long without noticing the expected reward wasn't coming.

He got the expected reward - all the RF armor he could need but no CoFs. If his expectation was any different that's his fault. In large part due to his efforts the guild saw fit to change the rule to make it a possibility.

And yes I'd have given him the next CoF (it's not like we have these lying around) from Ragefire.

[Jib]

part of my espionage in nilly, they began to talk about the forums and eventually my name came up. i lol'd pretty hard when kergan said everything I post on the forums is right... the rest grew silent, one said i was a faggot then they started talking about somebody else.

Variance truly is what this server needs.

[Sweetbaby Jesus]

The cof came from talendor tho did it not?

[Kergan]

oh, push is still in your guild, nihilum has his hooks in him, and he is still farming ragefires because in order to stay in the guild he had to give his COF to the guild.

so what we have here is, 67 pearls, and jupe actually had to GIVE a cof back to the guild. hahahahaha, THE FUCK.

Amazing how it's suddenly this huge injustice a few days after you get busted trying to ninjaloot (but not for the months before that), and your own brother doesn't even agree with you based on his actions.

[Sweetbaby Jesus]

Ur an idiot jib

[Kergan]

part of my espionage in nilly, they began to talk about the forums and eventually my name came up. i lol'd pretty hard when kergan said everything I post on the forums is right... the rest grew silent, one said i was a faggot then they started talking about somebody else.

Variance truly is what this server needs.

Heh, riiiiight.

[Agatha]

He got the expected reward - all the RF armor he could need but no CoFs. If his expectation was any different that's his fault. In large part due to his efforts the guild saw fit to change the rule to make it a possibility.

And yes I'd have given him the next CoF (it's not like we have these lying around) from Ragefire.

all the ragefire armor i could want? were is my ragefire arms? oh thats right the 8 i spawned went to people who don't do pearls.

God you are such a sandbag player you have no idea whats going on in the guild, keep logging in once a week.

[Jib]

nah the server has turned into bitterness vs bitterness

new guilds + variance = basically a wipe of the server to a degree.

+/- 72 hours on 7 day spawns
+/-16 hours on 3 day spawns
maybe even +/- 2 hours on 8 hour spawns and +/- 8 hours on 1 day spawns

[Sweetbaby Jesus]

Agatha you still haven't answered. Am I the one you are saying got a several hundred dkp boost?

[Bazia]

how is there not tons of CoFs around after Nihilum getting 99.99999999999% of all the mobs that drop it during the past 3 years

really surprising this is the item that instigates drama

[Kergan]

Kergan in a DKP system the officers dont decide who gets loot. Your DKP decides who gets loot.

We're unwilling to have 0 discretion when it comes to loot. Even in Velious when we move to a true DKP "buy items" type situation, some loot will still be prioritized to certain classes.

By making smart decisions we're better equipped to kill more dragons and get more loot for everyone. I can understand people who have very few items to hand out wanting a super transparent system to govern every action, as getting an item is a rare opportunity. But for us, it just isn't a big deal. You want something you'll get it. You play a ton, you're gonna be BiS geared within 3-4 months. Feel you got passed over unjustly? Wait until next week and get it.

[Mac Drettj]

all the ragefire armor i could want? were is my ragefire arms? oh thats right the 8 i spawned went to people who don't do pearls.

God you are such a sandbag player you have no idea whats going on in the guild, keep logging in once a week.

U gotta be at rage fire to get rage fire armor

[Jib]

nilly only really has like 9 cof's... at the end of each month they have to pay their electricity bills.

[Agatha]

how is there not tons of CoFs around after Nihilum getting 99.99999999999% of all the mobs that drop it during the past 3 years

really surprising this is the item that instigates drama

you're right, everyone in nihilum should have 3-4 given to them if you think about it.

[Jib]

why did nizzar get banned again? i forgot

[Kergan]

how is there not tons of CoFs around after Nihilum getting 99.99999999999% of all the mobs that drop it during the past 3 years

really surprising this is the item that instigates drama

Because when they "rot" they go into the guild bank and are instantly purchased at an insane discount over market. We don't just keep shit in stock people want to use. Same reason there are no dragon hero bracers or RBBs in the bank.

[Bazia]

it drops off multiple raid mobs and nihilum gets them all

is there people with like 9 of them or something lol

i remember twainz had 3

[Agatha]

i also love how "dont worry everything is going to be correct in velious, just deal with this unjust loot system in kunark for the next 8 months, no big deal".

lol, i don't care about velious, i play right now, every day, 12 hours a day. I want it to be right, now.

[Bazia]

Because when they "rot" they go into the guild bank and are instantly purchased at an insane discount over market. We don't just keep shit in stock people want to use. Same reason there are no dragon hero bracers or RBBs in the bank.

so instead of the guy that farmed 67 pearls getting one u were selling them off with huge discounts for various alts?

that sounds dum but then again i dont lead guilds so i cant judge

sounds dum tho

[Kergan]

People 1 item away from being BiS have no room to bitch about the loot system.

Anyways, I've made like 50 posts in this thread and it's time to step away. :)

[Agatha]

U gotta be at rage fire to get rage fire armor

retti is one of the guys that got a pair of my ragefire arms. he logs in once a week for dragons.

[Kergan]

so instead of the guy that farmed 67 pearls getting one u were selling them off for way less then a discount price for various alts?

that sounds dum but then again i dont lead guilds so i cant judge

sounds dum tho

It is dumb. That's why it changed.

Anyways, last post for awhile in here I promise! Need to let other people get a word in. :)

[Mac Drettj]

Agatha has 15 characters with vp gear

And a main in fully bis minus crown.

Bewhew, buy 1 from gbank.

retti is one of the guys that got a pair of my ragefire arms. he logs in once a week for dragons.

Also took me 400 dkp to finish my full RF set. Non of my alts have rage fire like yours.

[Andis]

oh, push is still in your guild, nihilum has his hooks in him, and he is still farming ragefires because in order to stay in the guild he had to give his COF to the guild.
.

WHAT?

PLS EXPLAIN

TWINKY HAT ON

[Mac Drettj]

Probably bcus u were a role playing nerd and nobody wanted to wait for you to show up with walk speed turned on

[Pikrib]

Also took me 400 dkp to finish my full RF set. Non of my alts have rage fire like yours.

Cool story, did you farm 67 pearls also?

[Mac Drettj]

Cool story, did you farm 67 pearls also?

0

Also got a cof.

U mad?

[Zade]

Free Agent Duck looking for guild.

http://i.imgur.com/qwPL0Pj.jpg

[Pikrib]

0

Also got a cof.

U mad?

lol kinda mad. I think i'm gonna join Jupe and Agatha's next guild. =)

[heartbrand]

lol kinda mad. I think i'm gonna join Jupe and Agatha's next guild. =)

arent you in the mexicants guild

[Pikrib]

Got characters in 4 guilds.

[Musetii]

Naw. Last 3 weeks for me:

06/22/14 PharaDar
06/22/14 Druusk
06/22/14 Silverwing
06/22/14 Hoshkar
06/21/14 Faydedar
06/21/14 Gorenaire
06/21/14 Severilous
06/21/14 Inny - H1
06/16/14 Ragefire
06/16/14 PoSky - H3
06/16/14 PoSky - H2
06/16/14 PoSky - H1
06/15/14 PharaDar
06/15/14 Ragefire
06/15/14 Druusk
06/15/14 Xygoz
06/15/14 Silverwing
06/15/14 CT - H1
06/15/14 Draco - H1
06/14/14 Ragefire
06/14/14 Inny - H1
06/14/14 Venril Sathir
06/14/14 Draco - H1
06/07/14 Venril Sathir

Wipe it clean.

[rusty81]

lol theres a mexicants now....

THis place man...

[Uuruk]

http://www.themarysue.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/vgam.jpg#geekosystem

[Jib]

Got characters in 4 guilds.

Pikrib Protector of Norrath

[Jib]

lets not forget agatha got wiegraff his ragefire arms and boots!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CCl89k6JimA&list=UU8Y_uVu2spba1TS_X71wqHg&index=5

[iiNGloriouS]

Kergan: http://www.montana-injury-lawyer.com/images/Whistleblower/shooting-yourself-in-the-fo.gif

[Agatha]

Free Agent Duck looking for guild.

http://i.imgur.com/qwPL0Pj.jpg

lets link up zade would love to have u onboard :)

[Pikrib]

Still thinking of ways to Ninja myself into Nihilum and FoH. Might need a voice changing mic.

[Elderan]

Jesus..

Just to clarify Agatha/Jupe did 18 pearls. Still a ton of pearls. The rule was the pearl person got first pick outside the COF which would go to a main. If no mains needed then it was up for alts. The persons who turned in the pearl would get first shot at it.

The rule was changed within the last 1-2 weeks. The change was if you turned in 10+ pearls you got a COF if one dropped on your pearl. Agatha/Jupe would have gotten the next cof that dropped on their pearl.

Still don't know why Agatha flipped out like this.

[a_gnoll_pup]

agatha is the edward snowden of red99

[Jib]

Jesus..

Just to clarify Agatha/Jupe did 18 pearls. Still a ton of pearls. The rule was the pearl person got first pick outside the COF which would go to a main. If no mains needed then it was up for alts. The persons who turned in the pearl would get first shot at it.

The rule was changed within the last 1-2 weeks. The change was if you turned in 10+ pearls you got a COF if one dropped on your pearl. Agatha/Jupe would have gotten the next cof that dropped on their pearl.

Still don't know why Agatha flipped out like this.

might have something to do with your guild leader being banned for rmt'ing raid loots.

[Rellapse40]

lol


agatha il join your resistance for a tstaff tho

[Sektor]

Agatha I'll come back and form a guild with you and Pikrib. Try to get drakar on board let's make that 3rd guild.

[Rellapse40]

pikrib,sektor,me,agatha

aww yiss

need a tstaff tho

[Mac Drettj]

Sounds like the a-team

[Rellapse40]

we can all sit around and have imaginary careers and wives of 8 years like retti

[Pikrib]

Jesus..

Just to clarify Agatha/Jupe did 18 pearls.

For newcomers to R99...


Always multiply Elderan's numbers by 3.

3*18= 54

This will get you a close estimate of what the actual numbers are.

[Mac Drettj]

Will b goog

[no chewie dont]

18 pearls is still a sickening amount of bluebie dickslurping
i helped out with 1 pearl for soda's epic that was more than enough for this emu imo

[Mac Drettj]

Jupe got an rbb and a cloak?
Scammers

[Rellapse40]

only people allowed to gather multiple cloaks are the Nihilum RMT operations

[Rellapse40]

j/k i would never join that retarded ass guild full of fgts

[Mac Drettj]

Not allowed. But u can keep trying.

[Andis]

j/k i would never join that retarded ass guild full of fgts

A+

[Rellapse40]

not allowed to sit around in ts with rallyd,heartbrand,rexx,elderan.retti and talk about star wars all day


awwww yisss


literally the biggest collection of fgts in any game ever

[Agatha]

only people allowed to gather multiple cloaks are the Nihilum RMT operations

there isn't an RMT scheme, its individuals within the guild that do all the RMTing, nizzar takes a little off the top, its no big deal.

It's pretty much like any other guild i been in.

[Mac Drettj]

Didn't Agatha quit azreal 16.5 after awarding his pally cloak of pity?

[JayN]

not allowed to sit around in ts with rallyd,heartbrand,rexx,elderan.retti and talk about star wars all day


awwww yisss


literally the biggest collection of fgts in any game ever

[Pikrib]

there isn't an RMT scheme, its individuals within the guild that do all the RMTing, nizzar takes a little off the top, its no big deal.

It's pretty much like any other guild i been in.

So how much does Niz take off the top?
10%?
25%?

Was thinking about forming my own guild...

J/K btw don't ban me. :)

[Not_Kazowi]

If you aren't having fun when you log in then stop logging in. This is a game, not a job. No one will give a single fuck about what happened on this server the second it all ends in a few years.

[Jib]

there isn't an RMT scheme, its individuals within the guild that do all the RMTing, nizzar takes a little off the top, its no big deal.

It's pretty much like any other guild i been in.

anybody found doing any kind of buying or selling rmt in <Hokuten> will be detagged and have his/her throat slit on sight

[Not_Kazowi]

not allowed to sit around in ts with rallyd,heartbrand,rexx,elderan.retti and talk about star wars all day


awwww yisss


literally the biggest collection of fgts in any game ever

Never talked about star wars or trek in ts before but I'm glad I got you all rustled with 0 effort

[FaithlessKR]

Alot of my friends from nihilum have been asking me why, and honestly it's such a big list of reasons i can't keep going over it with every single person.

This all started when i first joined the guild, and we started kicking out ragefire pearls. I have watched the ragefire loot rules change so many times, in order to out maneuver myself from aquiring the desired big loots, cloak of flames, etc. 4 times have loot rules changed, through 67 pearls, 67 ragefires spawned.

67 ragefires, 5 cloak of flames later, and 8 ragefire arms later, zooey still has neither. loot rules changes on the spot almost every time.

Things came to a head a few weeks back when the ragefire loot rules changed yet again, this time willian was in channel and he was so brazen to say "I don't want agatha having a bunch of cloak of flames".

What this came down to is, am i valued as a member, do i want to continue giving this guild my 12 hour days to a guild that does not trust me, nor value me and my contributions.

This all began with willan, and ended with willian, for some reason the duke value's this guys opinion above all else. He doesn't play, is terrible at playing, and is an all around asshole. Ever since the duke left to play d3 and he tried to take over during that brief period and failed horribly he singled me out for not attending his raids that were doomed from the start (anyone who would follow this guy into battle is a tard). Multitude's worse than lite at his worst type bad.

now, lets back up a bit, something went down in the guild that I'm not going to publicly address cause im not a scumbag, it was DKP related. and caused me to go through my personal logs and compare them to the DKP logs, i was at a 114dkp deficit with my brother who raids alot more than me missing quite a bit more than that. I looked at my competitors that i was neck and neck with over the course of a few months and would compare logs, there dkp was still advancing, staying above mine, when clearly according to my attendance logs i should be much further ahead. in jupes case it was much more clear a certain competitor of his who everyone clearly knows doesn't play was not only advancing but had jumped several hundred dkp out of thin air. This was clear targeted dkp manipulation.

This right here above is the main reason i left. below are some minor attributing factors that helped basically put me over the edge.

Nihilum has a big problem with what i call sand bag players, people who have put there time in at one point or another, that have earned the right in the leadership's eyes to show up once a week to VP, with there 800dkp, afk through the raid and win crowns and all the good stuff.

The regearing and roll over dkp of players that have RMT'd there characters in the past. enough said on that subject.

The allowance of bank access to items to players within the guild who are complete non factors, items going to people that will never use that item on there character to contribute towards a guild function in any shape or form, pixel hoarders that gear characters out and let them rot.

Bad players, screw ups on trivial shit, that we have done a million times, pets out while dragons are being pulled, forgeting to invis before we travel. proc weapons out on boss mobs pulling agro on enrage. meanwhile players like myself and others are giving it our all carrying the guild only to be beaten out by these players for loot.


So ya, i did what i did. And dont feel one bit bad about it. I thought Nihilum was going to be my saving grace on this server. the last true refuge. But i was wrong, dead wrong. In the coming weeks ill be assessing my situation and seeing if i can get a competing guild up and running, if not ill quit.

tdlr

Didn't get loot is all I saw

[mikemandella]

there isn't an RMT scheme, its individuals within the guild that do all the RMTing, nizzar takes a little off the top, its no big deal.

It's pretty much like any other guild i been in.

In Azrael we have to give our COF's \ AON's to Lite. Got an AON and Epic on my wiz and haven't been able to logon since.

[Pudge]

before reading the post, i was about to say "Agatha pixeled out and PEACED out!" ...... but actually agatha's crying because he is ISNT getting pixelated .....fast enough?

wtf?

[Sektor]

1. Corrupted Loot system - Players that log on once a month Glyph/Tailypo changing mains as a dragon hero bracer drops to cockblock me from winning one for 6 months.


2. Treated me like dirt - Accused me of spying because I told Heartbrand we were raiding Plane of Hate once. Was public information everyone knew we were there.

3. Corrupted Leadership - Nizzar wouldn't let me win items for my Alt war for plat, said I had to PayPal him.

4. Bondless Guild - Every member is in it for themselves, business oriented players no real bonds or players playing the game that wanna form friendships. Most members are drone-like personalities I.e. Willian, Ender, Puddems, etc etc.

5. Guide alliance's - Used Zade to track down any private conversations from in game tells. Accounts were bought and name changed I.e. Kontra aka Roxxur confirmed by Zade on team speak. GMs can easily research the CSR logs through Dates name changes and check IPS showing that Kontra is now owned by Elderan.



So much more its sickening.

[gprater]

DANG. Did i see that you played this game 12 hours a day?! None of my business but if hang out with other folks that play the game that much a day then things will get real bad real fast.

When do you work and sleep?

[no chewie dont]

which time is all this about

[Pudge]

yes, you log in once a week for VP, grats. you are a sand bag player.

hey now, kergan aint no bagger. he spends countless hours performing the arduous task of forum white knighting for nilly. his posts are all over every thread. considering some of the stuff your guild (or former guild) does, that's a pretty important job.

[Susvain2]

https://i.imgflip.com/9w2u5.jpg (https://imgflip.com/i/9w2u5)

[heartbrand]

who is Pudge? anyone ever seen this guy in game?

[Sektor]

who is Pudge? anyone ever seen this guy in game?

Jesus 10k posts lol

[Rellapse40]

Jesus 10k posts lol

[Susvain2]

Jesus 10k posts lol

[karsten]

this thread has a bit of all the great pieces of forumquest all nice and neatly centrally located

[heartbrand]

Jesus 10k posts lol

Yikes you want to go there? How you were caught in nilly ts for weeks begging Nizzar to let you back into the guild, and then you told aim chat how he won't let you back so you decided to throw him under the bus in retribution for RMT?

[Honeyblunts]

My back was covered with wolf furs I had sewn together and collected earlier that spring. We all knew variance was coming and had to prepare for the worst. My father before me would tell us of the green dragon who plagued their lands. There was a steel gaze in his eyes until he would break concentration and quickly change to telling stories of munchkin sacrifices and how they would weave baskets of yoohoo to appease the Gods. BANG! Hector the garden mexican had dropped some pots onto the floor. "Hector, are you alright?" I asked. Hector turned around with a blank stare on his face "Variance is coming and we are not prepared."

To be continued...

[Rellapse40]

got prof?

[Sektor]

Yikes you want to go there? How you were caught in nilly ts for weeks begging Nizzar to let you back into the guild, and then you told aim chat how he won't let you back so you decided to throw him under the bus in retribution for RMT?

lmfao good stuff.

[Mac Drettj]

1. Corrupted Loot system - Players that log on once a month Glyph/Tailypo changing mains as a dragon hero bracer drops to cockblock me from winning one for 6 months.


1 persons main change blocked u for 6 months? Also sounds very cry about pixels related


2. Treated me like dirt - Accused me of spying because I told Heartbrand we were raiding Plane of Hate once. Was public information everyone knew we were there.


Pity reply for a spy that turned out 2 b a spy


3. Corrupted Leadership - Nizzar wouldn't let me win items for my Alt war for plat, said I had to PayPal him.


So you asked if you could send money 2 someone and they said yes? Aren't you the 1 with reputation as biggest rmt buyer in all of emu existence? Coolstorybro


4. Bondless Guild - Every member is in it for themselves, business oriented players no real bonds or players playing the game that wanna form friendships. Most members are drone-like personalities I.e. Willian, Ender, Puddems, etc etc.


Majority of the team speak is people that have played with each other for 3+ years and often play other games 2gether. Didn't you just rmt yourself 1 of 3 a real crowns and made the entire guild disband over selfishness?


5. Guide alliance's - Used Zade to track down any private conversations from in game tells. Accounts were bought and name changed I.e. Kontra aka Roxxur confirmed by Zade on team speak. GMs can easily research the CSR logs through Dates name changes and check IPS showing that Kontra is now owned by Elderan.


Since when have gms NOT shared info about players with other players? See cwall petition logs, ambrotos oocing everyone's playtime.

Also hasn't every single character you purchased gotten a name change from Sirken?

[Xantille]

Alot of my friends from nihilum have been asking me why, and honestly it's such a big list of reasons i can't keep going over it with every single person.

This all started when i first joined the guild, and we started kicking out ragefire pearls. I have watched the ragefire loot rules change so many times, in order to out maneuver myself from aquiring the desired big loots, cloak of flames, etc. 4 times have loot rules changed, through 67 pearls, 67 ragefires spawned.

67 ragefires, 5 cloak of flames later, and 8 ragefire arms later, zooey still has neither. loot rules changes on the spot almost every time.

Things came to a head a few weeks back when the ragefire loot rules changed yet again, this time willian was in channel and he was so brazen to say "I don't want agatha having a bunch of cloak of flames".

What this came down to is, am i valued as a member, do i want to continue giving this guild my 12 hour days to a guild that does not trust me, nor value me and my contributions.

This all began with willan, and ended with willian, for some reason the duke value's this guys opinion above all else. He doesn't play, is terrible at playing, and is an all around asshole. Ever since the duke left to play d3 and he tried to take over during that brief period and failed horribly he singled me out for not attending his raids that were doomed from the start (anyone who would follow this guy into battle is a tard). Multitude's worse than lite at his worst type bad.

now, lets back up a bit, something went down in the guild that I'm not going to publicly address cause im not a scumbag, it was DKP related. and caused me to go through my personal logs and compare them to the DKP logs, i was at a 114dkp deficit with my brother who raids alot more than me missing quite a bit more than that. I looked at my competitors that i was neck and neck with over the course of a few months and would compare logs, there dkp was still advancing, staying above mine, when clearly according to my attendance logs i should be much further ahead. in jupes case it was much more clear a certain competitor of his who everyone clearly knows doesn't play was not only advancing but had jumped several hundred dkp out of thin air. This was clear targeted dkp manipulation.

This right here above is the main reason i left. below are some minor attributing factors that helped basically put me over the edge.

Nihilum has a big problem with what i call sand bag players, people who have put there time in at one point or another, that have earned the right in the leadership's eyes to show up once a week to VP, with there 800dkp, afk through the raid and win crowns and all the good stuff.

The regearing and roll over dkp of players that have RMT'd there characters in the past. enough said on that subject.

The allowance of bank access to items to players within the guild who are complete non factors, items going to people that will never use that item on there character to contribute towards a guild function in any shape or form, pixel hoarders that gear characters out and let them rot.

Bad players, screw ups on trivial shit, that we have done a million times, pets out while dragons are being pulled, forgeting to invis before we travel. proc weapons out on boss mobs pulling agro on enrage. meanwhile players like myself and others are giving it our all carrying the guild only to be beaten out by these players for loot.


So ya, i did what i did. And dont feel one bit bad about it. I thought Nihilum was going to be my saving grace on this server. the last true refuge. But i was wrong, dead wrong. In the coming weeks ill be assessing my situation and seeing if i can get a competing guild up and running, if not ill quit.

lol

[Mac Drettj]

I can fux w dat

[Super Hater]

not allowed to sit around in ts with rallyd,heartbrand,rexx,elderan.retti and talk about star wars all day


awwww yisss


literally the biggest collection of fgts in any game ever

[Andis]

rettiwalk approaching dangerous levels of caring

take it ez bro

relax on posting lololololol

[Rellapse40]

lol

[Super Hater]

Damn. Yall are pathetic as fuck yo.

[iiNGloriouS]

who is Pudge? anyone ever seen this guy in game?

He actually spends time with his kid unlike you. :/

[Sektor]

He actually spends time with his kid unlike you. :/

yikes

[Rellapse40]

yikes

[Gaanon03]

Definitely not an Azrael problem, time to suck some Lite dick and come home pal.

http://i58.tinypic.com/99f4g5.jpg

PS more proof that simulated repops makes this server's competing guilds have a chance other than the biggest. Kergan full of shit? Shocked.

[Feniggles]

Definitely not an Azrael problem, time to suck some Lite dick and come home pal.

http://i58.tinypic.com/99f4g5.jpg

PS more proof that simulated repops makes this server's competing guilds have a chance other than the biggest. Kergan full of shit? Shocked.

stasis back, yuck

[Gaanon03]

Yeah I know my words are too much to handle for some of you nerds.

[Xer0]

And what, you're too good to actually apply to the relevant thread? Gotta add more junk to the front page?

[Gaanon03]

What, the entire front page is junk.

[Rellapse40]

^

[Nothxu]

This post makes me sad. Sorry to see you go Agatha. You did put in a lot of work.

I agree with Aborted though. wish you would have maybe taken a few deep breaths before making a decision to leave. I think a calm conversation with the officers about how much work you and Push put into pearls would have been all it took to get a CoF.

It is all very short sighted too. With Velious on the way, who gives a fuck about CoFs? You would have been rolling in the loots that are far better! And then you take it to the forums with conspiracy DKP stuff? Sigh.

[Elderan]

Definitely not an Azrael problem, time to suck some Lite dick and come home pal.

http://i58.tinypic.com/99f4g5.jpg

PS more proof that simulated repops makes this server's competing guilds have a chance other than the biggest. Kergan full of shit? Shocked.

Zero pvp today....

[Rellapse40]

ya 10 people vs your 50

[Gaanon03]

Zero pvp today....

And? Maybe if morale builds people will try to contest the static timers.

Expecting people to go from planar trash to head on vs the main guild is ridiculous.

Anyway I'm done, Inny Sev Fay all outside Nihi - yet more proof that Sim repops work, morale outside of Nih.

Only agenda ruined is the ones from nerds like Elderan who came specifically to join the #1 guild and get a hard on being the only high end raiders, like a freak.

PEACE

[India]

Even though I am a complete non factor :) and play sporadically, it was a bummer to find out that you are so upset and have left. I always did enjoy listening to you in ts lol. I wish you the best and hope your new guild does great!! Good luck agatha

[Xer0]

What, the entire front page is junk.

And as such you're entirely excused from exacerbating it? Problem with the world today is your mentality.

[Potus]

Definitely not an Azrael problem, time to suck some Lite dick and come home pal.

http://i58.tinypic.com/99f4g5.jpg

PS more proof that simulated repops makes this server's competing guilds have a chance other than the biggest. Kergan full of shit? Shocked.

Hey dude 2002 called we have this thing called Imgur now.

[Mac Drettj]

pvping over mobs

thats what sim pops r all about

[Xer0]

1 persons main change blocked u for 6 months? Also sounds very cry about pixels related



Pity reply for a spy that turned out 2 b a spy



So you asked if you could send money 2 someone and they said yes? Aren't you the 1 with reputation as biggest rmt buyer in all of emu existence? Coolstorybro



Majority of the team speak is people that have played with each other for 3+ years and often play other games 2gether. Didn't you just rmt yourself 1 of 3 a real crowns and made the entire guild disband over selfishness?



Since when have gms NOT shared info about players with other players? See cwall petition logs, ambrotos oocing everyone's playtime.

Also hasn't every single character you purchased gotten a name change from Sirken?
what an ignorant nig.

[Colgate]

loot squabbles by people who play 200 person 15 year old elf sim emulated server 12+ hours a day for 2.5+ years prob one of THE most pathetic things i have ever witnessed in my entire life

god help your souls

[Nocsucow]

Retti is one of the most pathetic people I've seen on these red forums...... I don't think he ever takes a break from them

[Mac Drettj]

http://i.imgur.com/DJCjb4b.jpg

[derpcake]

We're unwilling to have 0 discretion when it comes to loot. Even in Velious when we move to a true DKP "buy items" type situation, some loot will still be prioritized to certain classes.

By making smart decisions we're better equipped to kill more dragons and get more loot for everyone. I can understand people who have very few items to hand out wanting a super transparent system to govern every action, as getting an item is a rare opportunity. But for us, it just isn't a big deal. You want something you'll get it. You play a ton, you're gonna be BiS geared within 3-4 months. Feel you got passed over unjustly? Wait until next week and get it.

DKP hoarding is terrible for guilds, it puts new people behind more and more compared to hoarders, and it ensures people that join the guild have little to no chance on loot the first months of an expansion.

Does your guild use DKP inflation as my old one did? How exactly does that work? Or do you have people with 50-100+ raids value in DKP, that hardly log on these days, and are just waiting for Verious?

Further, how much loot have you / other members passed to applicants, since it would be a better upgrade for them then for you?

You speak about making smart decisions, so tell me how many of your applicants have gotten CoFs or other BiS items for their class, in order to optimize their raid performance?

Does the system work both ways?

Gearing a potential main in your guild offers more value then gearing an alt, for obvious reasons. How do you guys handle this, do mains always get priority over alts?

[oil]

What this came down to is, am i valued as a member, do i want to continue giving this guild my 12 hour days to a guild that does not trust me, nor value me and my contributions.



do i want to continue giving this guild my 12 hour days to a guild that does not trust me



giving this guild my 12 hour days to a guild



12 hour days


look on the bright side

now you can get a fucking job

[DeadlyApostle]

I have no idea why I always get my name thrown around when people leave the guild. I never said anything about you and Push farming pearls, nor do I care.

[Gaanon03]

COFS?

Definitely not an Azrael problem, time to suck some Lite dick and come home pal.

http://i58.tinypic.com/99f4g5.jpg

PS more proof that simulated repops makes this server's competing guilds have a chance other than the biggest. Kergan full of shit? Shocked.

[BeautBabeC]

Can we do a ragefire for Camals epic though?

[oil]

http://s24.postimg.org/49scmp4oz/1403747980365.gif

actually I don't play enough so thats why

[Not Salem]

this thread lol

[Sektor]

I have no idea why I always get my name thrown around when people leave the guild. I never said anything about you and Push farming pearls, nor do I care.

Following user has had 2 nervous breakdowns while on this box in the past 6 months.

After losing to me and Tarwine and being title LESS in the paladin botb.

Then him trying to lead a guild, failing miserably then training us/ threatening to beat us up irl.


Good stuff, would never wanna be guilded with a loser like this guy, his ex fiance made the right choice by leaving your ass. You look like Mr Bean and you're personality is very dull. Nobody likes you, not even your own guildmates.

[Tassador]

wow you posted under 10,000 words all time record kid, loving it.

[Colgate]

Following user has had 2 nervous breakdowns while on this box in the past 6 months.

After losing to me and Tarwine and being title LESS in the paladin botb.

Then him trying to lead a guild, failing miserably then training us/ threatening to beat us up irl.


Good stuff, would never wanna be guilded with a loser like this guy, his ex fiance made the right choice by leaving your ass. You look like Mr Bean and you're personality is very dull. Nobody likes you, not even your own guildmates.

you know sektor, the truth about the paladin best of the best is actually funnier than claiming that you didn't offer gongshow real life money to play your character

the best part about willan losing to your character(played by gongshow) is that he was being accused mid-fight in teamspeak of using the same "speedhacks" that i was accused of using when i beat him, wuji, and nothxu at the monk best of the best

[Zade]

dat 105

[Tassador]

BRAZIL VS CHILE SO EXCITED!

[Bardalicious]

Fucking lol at the fake sympathy being doled out for Agatha from the same people that shunned Nihilum for guild tagging a "lying druggy thief".

[Terpuntine]

played by gongshow


Best part was Sektor in TS face rolling his keyboard so it sounded like he was rly playing hard.

[crossplay]

If you guys are looking for a new guild, <Juggalo Championship Wrestling> is recruiting. We'll take anybody.

[Agatha]

Definitely not an Azrael problem, time to suck some Lite dick and come home pal.

http://i58.tinypic.com/99f4g5.jpg

PS more proof that simulated repops makes this server's competing guilds have a chance other than the biggest. Kergan full of shit? Shocked.

smiling hard as hell at them COF's atm. hahaha

[Agatha]

[QUOTE=Nothxu;1514826

It is all very short sighted too. With Velious on the way, who gives a fuck about CoFs? You would have been rolling in the loots that are far better! And then you take it to the forums with conspiracy DKP stuff? Sigh.[/QUOTE]

because it shows me my value, the whole manuevering of loot rules were clearly to keep me from getting my alts COF's, while i watch them go to the bank to be bought by sand baggers. thats why. If i wasn't valued right there and then, i wasn't going to be valued in velious.

And about the dkp conspiracies, try asking an officer and getting the truth out of them. Maybe one will tell you the truth. Shits fucked up man. And I don't literally live on this game to be taken advantage of.

[Littlegyno 11.0]

how cud u do dis 2 me

[Agatha]

^the guy who shot up 300dkp while not playing.


lol, fucking worm.

[Littlegyno 11.0]

^the guy who shot up 300dkp while not playing.


lol, fucking worm.

wut? u fuking accusing me of something?

u were my friend and now u betrayed the duke.

[Rallyd]

Holy shit 67 pearls thats probably like 700 hours of play time. You didnt see fit to give him a CoF and some arms?

What was the rule before they changed it?

Last i checked farming a pearl takes an average of about an hour total.. more like 67 hours.. which is punk shit comparatively.

[Rellapse40]

dkp for dollars

nizzaar has to pay dat light bill u feels

[Rellapse40]

Last i checked farming a pearl takes an average of about an hour total.. more like 67 hours.. which is punk shit comparatively.

thank god i never have to be guilded with a annoying fgt like u

ever

[Agatha]

rallyd aint bad, just don't argue with him lol.

[Colgate]

Last i checked farming a pearl takes an average of about an hour total.. more like 67 hours.. which is punk shit comparatively.

go farm a ragefire pearl in 1 hour

LOL

[Agatha]

you can get lucky, and get a pearl in 1 hour, but the norm is like 2-5 hours, and the farm is maybe 1/4th, moving 5 characters around the world is really anoying.

[Agatha]

i'd also like to empathize no real members of nihilum have came here and said anything about dkp manipulation. Because they know it will eventually get out, and they will be made to look like fools. rallyd for instance just came here and called me out on my pearls, had nothing to say about the dkp. Because he knows.

all the vets know, kergan is not a vet, he logs in once a week, buffs everyone and afk's the rest of the raid. kergan is in no way representative of nihilum. I mean he is, he's the avg player. But he knows nothing about the inner workings of the guild.

edit: excuse me, the actual person who did the modifying has posted in this thread. lol

[Littlegyno 11.0]

i'd also like to empathize no real members of nihilum have came here and said anything about dkp manipulation. Because they know it will eventually get out, and they will be made to look like fools. rallyd for instance just came here and called me out on my pearls, had nothing to say about the dkp. Because he knows.

all the vets know, kergan is not a vet, he logs in once a week, buffs everyone and afk's the rest of the raid. kergan is in no way representative of nihilum. I mean he is, he's the avg player. But he knows nothing about the inner workings of the guild.

wut dkp manipulation. i cant read through 20 pages of SHIT

[Agatha]

pm sent

[Rellapse40]

gyno got like 10 grand invested in nizzar

[Rallyd]

K first off, there is no DKP Manipulation, totally false.

Moving on... you were asked if you wanted Ragefire arms on 3 seperate occasions (Don't try to lie, remember I'm one of the guys who plays more than you.) and declined to take them probably because you were so high on drugs you didn't understand they even dropped.

Lastly, you were recently awarded a cloak of flames the same as I and a few others were for your efforts of farming Pearls. Our past policy was to not award them to players for alts because there were a ton of mains who needed them and it was unfair, first ragefire pick besides CoF was still available.

This policy has since changed to 1 CoF per 10 pearls awarded only once, you want to stop farming them after 10? fine... nobody is forcing you.

Your gripes with our guild are pure speculation and conspiracy theory and I'm not sorry to say I liked you as a player when you weren't high on drugs. I hope you find a way to get past your theories, as that is what they are, unless you have prof.

[Agatha]

then you must not be aware yourself or your just covering, because i assure you, this did happen. lol. I would think you would know. But if you don't lol.

edit: I really wish he didnt tell me, i also feel bad for betraying his trust by letting this all out im sure he is catching alot of shit for it, im just glad he doesn't read the forums. but people kept asking me and i got tired of repeating myself.

[Bardalicious]

now, lets back up a bit, something went down in the guild that I'm not going to publicly address cause im not a scumbag, it was DKP related.

^ posted today

funny elderan saying watch out from jupe when he was the one caught altering DKP entries. (only the core nihilum knows about this)

oops, guess not anymore.

^ posted yesterday

ETA til Agatha is back in Az?

[LulzSect]

Who is more obese?

RallyD Or Agatha

[lite]

^ posted today



^ posted yesterday

ETA til Agatha is back in Az?


Same way we denied checkraise when he kept having colgate ask us, noway.

[Agatha]

ya there is no way id rejoin azrael. to many casuals with there hands out when the loot drops.

[Xer0]

Who is more obese?

RallyD Or Agatha

[Colgate]

rallyd definition of fat virgin nerd

[Agatha]

RallyD one of the few people on this server with a full grasp of the game, and the playtime to carry.

solid player. just don't argue with him even if your right.

[Bardalicious]

ya there is no way id rejoin azrael.

Weird. I could swear that I remember a leaked screenshot of you asking to rejoin Az in aim chat while you were still in Nihi.

Hard to keep track of all this flip floppin tho u feels?

[Agatha]

Weird. I could swear that I remember a leaked screenshot of you asking to rejoin Az in aim chat while you were still in Nihi.

Hard to keep track of all this flip floppin tho u feels?

poor powered i trolled him hard on that one :(

[Rellapse40]

rallyd definition of fat virgin nerd

[Bardalicious]

Since by your own admission you'll likely quit, can I have Portahoe?

[Feniggles]

pm sent

whut hows that help, spill the beans!. still have jboots waiting for you

[Xer0]

Personal experience with Agatha.

Power lvl'd me when I joined server without knowing who I was, answered some questions, helped out where he could. I have no problems with the guy, sounds like he was getting used as a work-horse.

I hear there is a new opposition guild gaining a lot of traction with a fair DKP system and clean-whistle leader that just started getting its members into raid level and would possibly greatly benefit from a dedicated player. I'm not sure though I may be incorrect.

Same thing, dude even threw me some free +MR bracers/jewelry on my first character.

Drama seems to follow him, but standup fellow imho.

anybody found doing any kind of buying or selling rmt in <Hokuten> will be detagged and have his/her throat slit on sight

funny no one asked yet you still felt that was necessary. Sounds a wee bit like a guilty conscience.

I believe he'll do it though, dude clearly has anger issues. I was in Haikuten for its first days and the first time anything went badly (read: not according to plan; pvp) dude was shouting at the top of his lungs barking at us like some drill instructor lol.

[Bidin]

Since by your own admission you'll likely quit, can I have Portahoe?
When you quit can I has your cloak of flames agatha?

[Mac Drettj]

Best part was Sektor in TS face rolling his keyboard so it sounded like he was rly playing hard.

[Elspeth]

bottles on bottles

[Rellapse40]

I was in Haikuten for its first days and the first time anything went badly (read: not according to plan; pvp) dude was shouting at the top of his lungs barking at us like some drill instructor lol.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y9wA1KmwnzQ

[Mac Drettj]

was that ur first inny? grats bros

almost completed the full kunark raid mob list

proud

[Sektor]

you know sektor, the truth about the paladin best of the best is actually funnier than claiming that you didn't offer gongshow real life money to play your character

the best part about willan losing to your character(played by gongshow) is that he was being accused mid-fight in teamspeak of using the same "speedhacks" that i was accused of using when i beat him, wuji, and nothxu at the monk best of the best

Never paid Gongshow rl cash to play my toon, I tried offering him rl cash many times, even tried buying him a Sidney Crosby jersey, lolz.

[Uuruk]

Never paid Gongshow rl cash to play my toon, I tried offering him rl cash many times, even tried buying him a Sidney Crosby jersey, lolz.

You are a piece of shit. And a faggot by looking at your picture.

[Agatha]

Since by your own admission you'll likely quit, can I have Portahoe?

Believe it or not, the guild is looking real good right now. I am actually suprised by the whole thing. I thought i was going to quit for sure. But all these guys talking to me bout wanting to join literally warming my heart.

I was actually really depressed that i was forced to leave nihilum, and to know i have friends outside nihilum means alot to me. thank you guys.

[Rellapse40]

You are a piece of shit. And a faggot by looking at your picture.

lol someone is jealous

[Rellapse40]

Agatha il be your friend lemme hold a Tstaff tho

[Agatha]

Agatha il be your friend lemme hold a Tstaff tho

that was actually loaned to me by drakar, which before leaving i gave to him.

[Colgate]

Best part was Sektor in TS face rolling his keyboard so it sounded like he was rly playing hard.

yeah, shit was p funny

"sektor why aren't you doing X"

"THIS IS UHH *CLACK CLACK CLACK* MY UHH *CLACK CLACK* AGGRESSIVE STRATEGY *first pounding into keyboard*"

[magician]

feel bad for agatha jesus christ

seek help

just my 2 cents

hope this helps

[FaithlessKR]

you know sektor, the truth about the paladin best of the best is actually funnier than claiming that you didn't offer gongshow real life money to play your character

the best part about willan losing to your character(played by gongshow) is that he was being accused mid-fight in teamspeak of using the same "speedhacks" that i was accused of using when i beat him, wuji, and nothxu at the monk best of the best

there a vod of the pally botb?? I never saw that one :(

[Bardalicious]

Believe it or not, the guild is looking real good right now. I am actually suprised by the whole thing. I thought i was going to quit for sure. But all these guys talking to me bout wanting to join literally warming my heart.

I was actually really depressed that i was forced to leave nihilum, and to know i have friends outside nihilum means alot to me. thank you guys.

So which guild are you referring to?