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Titanas
08-26-2010, 10:01 AM
Well every thing in this world costs money. We all know this and servers large enough to hold many people on line and a lot of data base information secure aren't cheep. If getting to play on a server like this enough to make some one want to donate some small incentives will. Here are a few ideas I have to offer.
1. Different levels of monthly subscriptions
A $5 USD Gives you a clicky unlimited charge Fire work with 5 sec casting time. Its not a lot but its still a nice fun reward for donating.
B $10 USD Clicky Illusion Half elf (No extra stats/faction change its only looks)
C $15 USD Clicky 1 clicky that can be an illusion of your choice( again no stats or faction change strictly cosmetic).
Other items of interest
Clickies
long duration spell effect ( useful for marking targets )
Summon Ale,food,water
Keep in mind you don't want to throw items into the mix that would off set any of the original economy, so the items might seem mundane.
Loquan
08-26-2010, 10:06 AM
Well every thing in this world costs money. We all know this and servers large enough to hold many people on line and a lot of data base information secure aren't cheep. If getting to play on a server like this enough to make some one want to donate some small incentives will. Here are a few ideas I have to offer.
1. Different levels of monthly subscriptions
A $5 USD Gives you a clicky unlimited charge Fire work with 5 sec casting time. Its not a lot but its still a nice fun reward for donating.
B $10 USD Clicky Illusion Half elf (No extra stats/faction change its only looks)
C $15 USD Clicky 1 clicky that can be an illusion of your choice( again no stats or faction change strictly cosmetic).
Other items of interest
Clickies
long duration spell effect ( useful for marking targets )
Summon Ale,food,water
Keep in mind you don't want to throw items into the mix that would off set any of the original economy, so the items might seem mundane.
Sounds nice and all, but I'm sure theres going to be 500 people saying, "omgomg but its not classic!".
Tiggles
08-26-2010, 10:09 AM
$5 gives you the ability to play this game because it won't be shut down.
$10 gives you the ability to play this game because it won't be shut down.
$50 gives you the ability to play this game because it won't be shut down.
I'm donating again this week.
Rogean
08-26-2010, 10:10 AM
As much as I would like to offer incentives for donating, it becomes a legality issue.
OngorDrakan
08-26-2010, 10:21 AM
HALF-ELF?! WTH Man! Why not like, Orc, or Goblin, or Bixie? HALF-ELF?????!!!!!!!!!??!!
OngorDrakan
08-26-2010, 10:23 AM
What about colored names on the forums? EvilAvatar does that for donation amounts.
Loquan
08-26-2010, 10:24 AM
As much as I would like to offer incentives for donating, it becomes a legality issue.
Going to take a wild guess and BOLD why.
Cogwell
08-26-2010, 10:27 AM
Going to take a wild guess and BOLD why.
http://project1999.org/forums/showthread.php?t=4095
HippoNipple
08-26-2010, 10:29 AM
Where do you donate at? I have some money burning a hole in my pocket.
Loquan
08-26-2010, 10:31 AM
Where do you donate at? I have some money burning a hole in my pocket.
Click home, look right, click donate.
Cogwell
08-26-2010, 10:31 AM
Where do you donate at? I have some money burning a hole in my pocket.
Theres a link off to the right on the home page.
Dantes
08-26-2010, 10:38 AM
How about just donate without incentives? Hell, it costs $9-12 just to go to a movie, $15-20 if you want "refreshments." Throwing some money to P99 is a worthy entertainment expense.
Donate. Do it!
Loquan
08-26-2010, 10:41 AM
Theres better incentives out there than in game stuff...
http://www.funnymediablog.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/funny-picture-1263467905091.jpeg
Weekapaug
08-26-2010, 11:15 AM
Why pay when you get to spank girls for free? :)
Seriously, people should just donate. I had been meaning to and kept putting it off for a couple of months 'till I saw Rogean's broadcast last night. It took like 5 mins and most of that was fixing the payment method on paypal because I hadn't used it in so long.
If you get on once a week and screw around, donating might seem a bit extreme. If you have a level 50 and a bunch of alts and are on 6 hours a day and you haven't donated you are a fucking deadbeat.
A little reminder never hurts, though. Theres a reason why schools and organizations post who donated what in their magazines and bulletins....Because it lights a fire under everybody to donate.
Dunes
08-26-2010, 11:33 AM
There is definitely a legality issue about devs setting up "recurring monthly payments", so I do not blame them for not setting up such a system for P99 (good job guys - dont compromise your work!).
I would say that monthly donations of varying amounts to offset the bandwidth and server maintenance/upgrade costs are okay. This money first and foremost pays the bills, and if they have a particuarly generous month that exceeds that number, then it is likely saved to put towards future needs (more bandwidth/upgrades).
All this to say - donate regularly! You may even set up PayPal or something similar to pay a set amount per month (for the sake of predictability and your own budgeting), but dont expect the P99 team to bill you :D
Overcast
08-26-2010, 11:48 AM
As much as I would like to offer incentives for donating, it becomes a legality issue.
On a one-by-one issue, maybe? Trade one donation for one item... yah, possible issues. But... What if.. say..
XP was to be doubled for 'x' amount of time - server wide, per donation as a 'thank you' for the beer money.. once a month, or w/e.
Or a 'GM event' if you hit 'x' number.
I know there are legalities on 'selling' a 'service' such as this. But if you call it a 'player appreciation day'...
If you 'mix it up' and never promise anything... "Broadcast, in appreciation for you generous donations...."
Just thinkin' outside the buns. But yah, I guess any thing like that opens up 'legal' cans of worms. But that's the way the legal system was designed.
Designed by lawyers, for lawyers....
Lill-Leif
08-26-2010, 12:03 PM
Blizzard just sued someone selling in-game items on a private wow server for 88 million USD and you think this server should start reward us for donating? IQ fiskmås.
cured
08-26-2010, 12:46 PM
I dropped $50 into the collection bucket today. Keep up the good work, guys!
apollyon arali
08-26-2010, 12:58 PM
Suggestion,
Maybe put a graph on the home page which shows monthy costs to run the server and current donation levels?
visuals are nice....
Keerarae
08-26-2010, 01:26 PM
That would be really cool. Or some sort of server health meter so I know when to throw money at the server to keep it going.
Delik
08-26-2010, 01:32 PM
Popped 25 into the kitty, hope it helps.
KnuckleSangwich
08-26-2010, 02:13 PM
I'll donate servers and bandwidth anytime -- just let me know :)
Striiker
08-26-2010, 02:49 PM
The notion of getting something extra for donating has come up a few times. I think it's best to just accept that you get the server to play on. As you can all see, it has been incredibly stable and solid in terms of performance (server and network). They overcame issues related to DDOS attacks part of which involved moving to a much better colocation facility, all thanks to the money from donations. The larger one-time donations help but I think a consistent monthly amount would be the biggest help. I pretend that I have a subscription and send $15.00 / month for each active account in my house. Not everyone can afford to pay a lot or anything but I know that every little bit helps and is truly appreciated by the admins of the servers (and also by all of the players who play on this stable and solid server). The admins don't actively campaign for donations all the time (beyond the donations button) but instead rely upon us all to show our appreciation and desire to have the server around for years to come by sending in some money when possible.
Reiker
08-26-2010, 03:15 PM
Suggestion,
Maybe put a graph on the home page which shows monthy costs to run the server and current donation levels?
visuals are nice....
http://i34.tinypic.com/2uzs64g.jpg
Striiker
08-26-2010, 04:08 PM
Reiker,
I am certain that they do not profit from the server and that they are maintaining a very accurate record of donations and expenditures. If they didn't or if it was demonstrated that they profited off the donations, they would be in a world of legal hurt if SOE ever decided to open any legal actions against the server. The entire premise of the server is that it is free and that nobody personally profits from it. The only way to prove this would be through solid accounting of donations in and expenses out with a bank account set up to hold and track this all.
Any extra money sitting in the bank will take care of new hardware costs, hosting fees, etc during the times when donations take a downturn. Ideally they will have sufficient funds to run the server for 6 - 12 months should donations really fall. Plus there are unexpected hardware costs to plan for (such as any capital expenses to protect against DDOS attacks).
Reiker
08-26-2010, 09:34 PM
Reiker,
I am certain that they do not profit from the server and that they are maintaining a very accurate record of donations and expenditures. If they didn't or if it was demonstrated that they profited off the donations, they would be in a world of legal hurt if SOE ever decided to open any legal actions against the server. The entire premise of the server is that it is free and that nobody personally profits from it. The only way to prove this would be through solid accounting of donations in and expenses out with a bank account set up to hold and track this all.
Any extra money sitting in the bank will take care of new hardware costs, hosting fees, etc during the times when donations take a downturn. Ideally they will have sufficient funds to run the server for 6 - 12 months should donations really fall. Plus there are unexpected hardware costs to plan for (such as any capital expenses to protect against DDOS attacks).
lol
RussMac316
08-27-2010, 11:19 AM
http://i34.tinypic.com/2uzs64g.jpg
If this is Sony's chart...there's way too much of the....non green coloring.
Arclanz
08-27-2010, 04:22 PM
well TBH I'd just like to be able to see listed who donated and how much. :) That way we can officially call someone a cheapazz. That reminds me, Rog... I need to donate; haven't done so yet since money is hard to come by these days.
Rogean
08-27-2010, 08:07 PM
I just got owned
Fixed~
And yea, nilbog handles all donations.. paypal keeps it nice and easy for us to keep track of it all.
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