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Swish
07-05-2014, 01:40 PM
Hey guys, just wondered on your thoughts for the best Velious camps for cash?

Both items and cash farming :)

indiscriminate_hater
07-05-2014, 02:01 PM
AOE kiting ulthorks

Pheer
07-05-2014, 02:51 PM
get ready to jav spam for Lodizal fte, youll only have like 30 groups to compete with

Imago
07-05-2014, 02:51 PM
I know sirens deep in the grotto drop all the gems youll ever need and some decent pp per run. Easiest cash has to be geonids in CC, mad gems on level 30 mobs.

Alanus
07-05-2014, 02:56 PM
AE kiting othmir are good exp and cash. There are turn-in gems and the fur sells for a good amount. They will likely be super camped on this server.

Velks is solid but will probably be way overcamped.

SG sirens would be a good cash farm with a group, since you can get the BP gems. I think they summon, though.

Otherwise, coldain head farming will probably be solid. Suits of sentient armor drop armor gems and sentient armor which vendors for a good amount.

Grubbz
07-05-2014, 02:58 PM
Lodi............

Gaffin 7.0
07-05-2014, 04:08 PM
Lodizal being one of the easiest cash farms, but its gonna be over camped to hell

Crystal Caverns geonids is really cash flow especially if your gaining xp at the same time on a alt

Gems for Quested armor good money, velks, cobalt scar, sirens grotto etc.

Wakening Lands geonids? Not sure if they was added later but also great gem drops.

MQ's for armor, kael and such, alot more of that in velious.

Velks, gonna be hella camped.

HeallunRumblebelly
07-05-2014, 05:05 PM
get ready to jav spam for Lodizal fte, youll only have like 30 groups to compete with

Lodi doesn't even have variance iirc. That map piece, lols. Gonna be wild for a few months. I wonder if they're gonna tranix that shit--the people who show up first get it first? :P

edit: Got it, we'll form an orderly line like the HS key.

Portasaurus
07-05-2014, 05:18 PM
WTB Turtle Soup!

HeallunRumblebelly
07-05-2014, 05:23 PM
I'm imagining that Skyshrine armor MQs will be some of the most profitable camps, though. Small raid teams constantly farming skyshrine armor :P

Roublard
07-05-2014, 06:59 PM
Huntsman / Scribe in icewell keep

Them coldain skin gloves and boots..oh man.

Calabee
07-05-2014, 07:11 PM
Exquisite velium weapons and dragonhide armor

Ele
07-08-2014, 05:51 PM
Rangers will make bank tracking griffins in EW for shawl questers.

rekreant
07-08-2014, 05:54 PM
AOE kiting ulthorks

this

Dragonsblood1987
07-09-2014, 12:03 AM
Hey guys, just wondered on your thoughts for the best Velious camps for cash?

Both items and cash farming :)

All the camps TMO is going to be taking 12 hour shifts on and training people for.

indiscriminate_hater
07-09-2014, 12:30 AM
siren's ghetto probably going to be farmed a bit. drums of the beast going to sell for a boatload

Uuruk
07-09-2014, 12:40 AM
Enjoy your 1500 pop server poopsocking everything. Won't be enough gms/guides for all the tears that will be flowing.

indiscriminate_hater
07-09-2014, 12:47 AM
Enjoy your 1500 pop server poopsocking everything. Won't be enough gms/guides for all the tears that will be flowing.

sounds like you know a thing or two about tears

Troxx
07-09-2014, 01:38 AM
The more poopsocking that happens, the faster items will flood the market and the lower prices will be.

That's the beauty of supply and demand.

Prices on lots of new things will be insane early on then plummet. As more new gear enters the market, the more inexpensive older content items will become. Outside of a few classic items like fungi tunics et al, expect a lot of current BiS items to fall in price.

Hopefully some of the older raids will become a bit more available.

Bazia
07-09-2014, 02:34 AM
they wont

Ikonoclastia
07-09-2014, 05:00 AM
I made a fortune soloing Lodizal as an enchanter but only after the stuck that DC gnome with a bajillion hp at the docks, level 30 rogue lol.

Ledge in Velks for SCH was pretty good too if you could get the ledge.

Sirens in CS were good though I don't remmeber what they dropped, think something for quest (maybe spells).

Zoesha
07-09-2014, 06:05 AM
phase spider carapaces in DN will sell for a shitload at launch, and obv still the old farm spots in seb for fungi's. Chardok revamp undead named mobs too. -- Holgresh elder beads if you can ever get your hands on them.

Argh
07-09-2014, 06:14 AM
At launch quest gems will sell for a shitload

Champion_Standing
07-09-2014, 06:48 AM
Still gonna be EC

Tecmos Deception
07-09-2014, 09:12 AM
siren's ghetto probably going to be farmed a bit. drums of the beast going to sell for a boatload

SG sirens would be a good cash farm with a group, since you can get the BP gems. I think they summon, though.

Have you guys been in SG on beta? :)

Tiggles
07-09-2014, 09:21 AM
Fungi camp.

Daldaen
07-09-2014, 09:21 AM
SG is all sorts of broke if it is the same as it was last month.

You can't jump onto land to memblur water-bound mobs. They resist a ton. They hit about 1.5x harder than they should. They're all immune to root/snare (a check I didn't think was in at this point of Velious).

I was hoping it would be my new Kedge. But alas :/.

Rhambuk
07-09-2014, 09:39 AM
farm stormfeather and sell the mq.

if you like torturing yourself anyway

Daldaen
07-09-2014, 09:42 AM
Can't sell the MQ it's a combine.

Rhambuk
07-09-2014, 09:58 AM
sell the drop,

and are you sure? I never camped or looted stormfeather and had a few eyepatches from friends getting the drop on their way through.

2nd thought, maybe i did loot one on my way through..its been yonks

Tulnavara
07-09-2014, 10:16 AM
SG is all sorts of broke if it is the same as it was last month.

You can't jump onto land to memblur water-bound mobs. They resist a ton. They hit about 1.5x harder than they should. They're all immune to root/snare (a check I didn't think was in at this point of Velious).

I was hoping it would be my new Kedge. But alas :/.

Is that actually broken? SG was nerfed down a few times on Live. It was pretty damn rough the first few months of Velious.

Man0warr
07-09-2014, 10:22 AM
It got nerfed a lot sooner than that, as early as a month into Velious I think. Same for the original Velketors with the spiders that proc'd a ridiculous poison.

Nerfed versions should probably be in from the get go, would be a lot of work just to use the original versions of those zones for a month or two.

Daldaen
07-09-2014, 10:31 AM
Those mobs shouldn't have a root/snare immunity flag. Nothing should pre-October 2001 I don't think? Since that's when they added unslowable and unmezzable tags.

They should drop aggro if they are a swordfish/seahorse given you jump on land. Currently they just ghost up and continue hitting you.

Most of the 2001 quotes put mobs hitting around 150s there. On beta I was seeing 220 very often.

Tecmos Deception
07-09-2014, 10:52 AM
SG pathing is still in the works I think. But other than that, when I looked into notes pretty thoroughly I saw that the original version of SG sounds like what we have on beta. Shit's like level 52-56, varies from "very resistant" to "wtfmyspells?!", hits for over 200, etc. It wasn't until a few months after Velious release that much of the trash in the zone had their levels dropped so that a lot of the zone didn't summon anymore, resists were less insane, and stuff hit for 180ish like the level 50ish trash mobs in the other Velious dungeons do.

Comments in March mentioning the first mobs in the zone hitting for 200+: http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/zones.html?zstrat=122#m98356470925158

Comments in July (though nerf was sooner than that, not sure when exactly) talking about the zone after nerfs: http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/zones.html?zstrat=122#m99545699743813

Destron
07-09-2014, 11:53 AM
Selling fake MQs, best cash camp ever.

Pint
07-09-2014, 11:53 AM
that elemental ds in SG, was not expecting that on my first run through.

heartbrand
07-09-2014, 12:06 PM
Rangers will make bank tracking griffins in EW for shawl questers.

Shawl is worthless without eighth

Alanus
07-09-2014, 02:18 PM
SG is all sorts of broke if it is the same as it was last month.

You can't jump onto land to memblur water-bound mobs. They resist a ton. They hit about 1.5x harder than they should. They're all immune to root/snare (a check I didn't think was in at this point of Velious).

I was hoping it would be my new Kedge. But alas :/.

Original SG on live was bad ass. Stuff hit for 200+, and were immune to snare, super resistant.

There was a patch that made it a lot more friendly, and I think it was same patch that leveled up Velks mobs and removed their poison (except hunters). Originally, velks mobs were mid 30s but as hard as they were after the revamp.

Messianic
07-09-2014, 02:29 PM
WHEN IS VELIOUS COMING OUT GUYS IM SO ANXIOUS

Daldaen
07-09-2014, 02:40 PM
Shawl is worthless without eighth

1FT isn't to be scoffed at. Unless you either intend to poopsock King Tormax or Dozekar or Tunare... Or unless you play on a custom server where your guild is the only large entity and you don't have anyone vying for your mobs.

FT2 boots or Dozekar FT1 mask/range/shield or Tunare FT3 ear are only things that would get me to drop Shawl7.

And I cant log on for most of the hours these mobs are killed. Only ForumQuest :/.

Man0warr
07-09-2014, 02:57 PM
Original SG on live was bad ass. Stuff hit for 200+, and were immune to snare, super resistant.

There was a patch that made it a lot more friendly, and I think it was same patch that leveled up Velks mobs and removed their poison (except hunters). Originally, velks mobs were mid 30s but as hard as they were after the revamp.

Yep, it was somewhere between 1-2 months after Velious release.

Tulnavara
07-09-2014, 03:56 PM
1FT isn't to be scoffed at. Unless you either intend to poopsock King Tormax or Dozekar or Tunare... Or unless you play on a custom server where your guild is the only large entity and you don't have anyone vying for your mobs.

http://img2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20130925101955/powerlisting/images/a/a9/I-see-what-you-did-there.jpg

heartbrand
07-09-2014, 03:59 PM
1FT isn't to be scoffed at. Unless you either intend to poopsock King Tormax or Dozekar or Tunare... Or unless you play on a custom server where your guild is the only large entity and you don't have anyone vying for your mobs.

FT2 boots or Dozekar FT1 mask/range/shield or Tunare FT3 ear are only things that would get me to drop Shawl7.

And I cant log on for most of the hours these mobs are killed. Only ForumQuest :/.

low blows, low blows

Zalaerian
07-09-2014, 04:19 PM
Would rather have shawl of protection, strength of the elements over that garbage 7th shawl

Smedy
07-09-2014, 04:26 PM
immersion levels tibbers... i'm watching you closely and reporting live to chuck about this

Clark
07-09-2014, 04:35 PM
immersion levels tibbers... i'm watching you closely and reporting live to chuck about this

Lol

Zalaerian
07-09-2014, 05:35 PM
shit

loramin
07-09-2014, 06:24 PM
Would rather have shawl of protection, strength of the elements over that garbage 7th shawl

The 7th shawl is one of the only sources of Flowing Thought in the entire game (in the Velious era at least). Plus, IIRC all the others require high-end raiding to obtain.

So how exactly is the only source of mana regen that a non-raider can get get "garbage"?

Daldaen
07-09-2014, 06:34 PM
The 7th shawl is one of the only sources of Flowing Thought in the entire game (in the Velious era at least). Plus, IIRC all the others require high-end raiding to obtain.

So how exactly is the only source of mana regen that a non-raider can get get "garbage"?

It is a red player, they are known to be retarded.

Ele
07-09-2014, 06:36 PM
The 7th shawl is one of the only sources of Flowing Thought in the entire game (in the Velious era at least). Plus, IIRC all the others require high-end raiding to obtain.

So how exactly is the only source of mana regen that a non-raider can get get "garbage"?

Crown and Choker from 10th Ring Event are tradeable, so we'll probably see those for sale at some point.

Flowing Thought 10
Scepter of Al`Kabor (http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?item=6456) (GM Event)

Flowing Thought 5
Essence of Nature (http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?item=7043) (Tunare)

Flowing Thought 3
Golden Leaf Earring (http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?item=7026) (Tunare)
Sal`Varae's Robe of Darkness (http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?item=6402)(originally FT1) (Vulak)

Flowing Thought 2
White Dragonscale Boots (http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?item=6765) (Yelinak, Tormax Head Quest)
Crown of Narandi (http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?item=6208) (10th Ring Event)

Flowing Thought 1
Buckler of Insight (http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?item=6508) (Dozekar Tear)
Mask of the Silver Eyes (http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?item=6187) (Dozekar Tear)
White Dragon Statue (http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?item=6131) (Dozekar Tear)
White Dragon Idol (http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?item=14610) (Dozekar Tear)
Robe of Inspiration (http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?item=5374) (Cazic Thule)
Brain of Cazic Thule (http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?item=5513) (Cazic Thule)
Eye of Cazic Thule (http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?item=5558) (Cazic Thule)
Choker of the Wretched (http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?item=7015) (10th Ring Event)
Runed Coldain Prayer Shawl (http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?item=6079) (Quested)

Daldaen
07-09-2014, 06:47 PM
Ah yea I forgot about the CT updated item.

Zalaerian
07-09-2014, 07:04 PM
Yea come play on red where we dont roll around in wal mart trash can items for the sake of FT1 when alot better options are there...man o man

loramin
07-09-2014, 07:10 PM
Crown and Choker from 10th Ring Event are tradeable, so we'll probably see those for sale at some point.

Wow, I'd forgotten how many existed back then! Nice list ... I guess the 7th Shawl wasn't as unique as I remembered.

Still, for non-raiders there are very few FT options, and even the tradeable ones like the Crown and Choker are likely going to be super expensive. Maybe the 7th Shawl isn't that special, but it's still far from garbage.

*EDIT*

Yea come play on red where we dont roll around in wal mart trash can items for the sake of FT1 when alot better options are there...man o man

So everyone on Red is a high-end raider? Or they just would rather have higher max mana instead of mana regen? I guess higher maximums are more useful in PvP than PvE, but in PvE regen is awesome (there's a reason why Fungis sell for so much).

Zalaerian
07-09-2014, 09:06 PM
Less players, more concentrated amount of pixels

Wiwi
07-14-2014, 12:37 PM
Less players, more concentrated amount of pixels

Yes. Come play on EZ server.