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lvpa
07-11-2014, 12:59 PM
Open message to the devs about the dangerous software that they installed in the last update, which made the game unplayable for many people, and made the systems of the people who do play insecure. A plea to stop it, and a solution in the form of a Kickstarter that lets us vote with our dollars.

I'm currently not able to play, like a lot of other people.

I understand that this change was made to catch cheaters, but it won't; I think we both know that they'll find ways around it, if they haven't already. You could run EQ in a virtual machine, you could run your hack on a separate machine... those are just the first two that come to mind, as a non-cheater.

So we're left with a change that makes the game unplayable for some of the 99% of innocent people, to catch the 1%, who won't be stopped anyway (by this method, anyway).

Some companies, like Blizzard, have gotten away with doing things like this, but:

Blizzard is a billion dollar company. If I let Blizzard into my system folder and they accidentally turn my computer into a brick, I can sue them. And they're one of the few companies that get away with it, even with the resources of a game company behind them.

This is a hobby project on the internet. It's anonymous and free. If I let them into my system folder and they accidentally turn my computer into a brick, I have no recourse. I'm just screwed.

Tampering with the system folder is a big deal. One typo and boom, my computer is a brick. One weirdness that's unique to my system-- boom, my computer is a brick. Antivirus programs are right to flag this. It *is* dangerous software.

You probably didn't intend to do something so dangerous, but you did, and hiding it made it much worse. It was done without the user's consent and we only found out about it when our antivirus went off. No official explanation has been given. This is bad.

On to the real point:

I'm not a contributor, and I should probably change that if I'm going to complain. I have an idea that could be great for the server and let people vote with their dollars.

I'd like to start a Kickstarter with a goal of, say, 1500 dollars. If we meet that goal, then the server gets a donation of 1500 dollars. In exchange, we get this dangerous software removed, and you go after cheaters another way.

I think that's a really good incentive and would be good for everyone. A lot of people complained about Blizzard doing this, but a billion dollars goes a long way when it comes to letting people rootkit your computer.

I don't think you would do anything intentionally harmful. It's just that harmful things do happen accidentally when tampering with the system folder. If I'm going to let someone do that, it has to be a company with money that I can sue if the worst happens. This is my only computer and I don't have the money for a new one.

kenzar
07-11-2014, 01:02 PM
Lol, no.

kruptcy
07-11-2014, 01:05 PM
This is my only computer and I don't have the money for a new one.

What in the world would require you to buy a new computer?

GradnerLives
07-11-2014, 01:12 PM
Where did you get the idea that the DLL injector included in the patch allows p99 staff to adjust the files in your system folder in any way?

It's a tool in place to allow them to scan the memory space that EQ is running in. It literally gives them access ONLY to those things that would be pertinent to determining whether or not you're using a 3rd party program that interacts with the EQ client.

They cannot push changes to your computer, or see any other programs running outside of your everquest memory space. They cannot keylog your passwords, see your screen, create/delete files, etc.

Your anti-virus program may pick it up as a Trojan, that's because that's kind of what it is, but the p99 staff has been open enough about its functionality - not to mention that there are enough devs playing on these servers and running their own who have the skill and knowledge to pick it apart - that there's no reason to think it could/has been used in any way other than that which has been described by them.

Glenzig
07-11-2014, 01:13 PM
This is not a Trojan, and it isn't dangerous.
http://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=156044
You already agreed to all this when you signed up for the game. If you don't want it, don't play. Simple. They aren't hacking your comp.

Bboboo
07-11-2014, 01:13 PM
$1500 sounds like enough money for a mid-high end PC.

Clasick
07-11-2014, 01:19 PM
I use AVG and added the file as an exception.
That's it...... really... that's it like everyone has been telling you

OP is painting an alarmist picture that people need to buy new PC's to play P1999 now. The OP's has no interest in making P1999 work with the anti-virus but is on a crusade to eliminate the DLL.

So whats the agenda OP ?
Why are you so eager to try and convince the developers here to abandon their years of work in hack detection. Do you know how much a sever full of MQ2 and SEQ users destroys the community because that's what you are asking for ?

Ele
07-11-2014, 01:20 PM
If I let Blizzard into my system folder and they accidentally turn my computer into a brick, I can sue them.

lol, no

yorumi
07-11-2014, 01:23 PM
I'd but kind of curious how you actually brick a computer. Sure you could scramble the OS or encrypt everything but that would only take a format and reinstall. I'm sure it's possible somehow but causing real permanent physical harm to a computer would have to be fairly difficult.

GradnerLives
07-11-2014, 01:24 PM
I'd but kind of curious how you actually brick a computer. Sure you could scramble the OS or encrypt everything but that would only take a format and reinstall. I'm sure it's possible somehow but causing real permanent physical harm to a computer would have to be fairly difficult.

Eve did it (http://community.eveonline.com/news/dev-blogs/about-the-boot.ini-issue/)

edit - (oh right... physical harm... nm)

kruptcy
07-11-2014, 01:26 PM
Eve did it (http://community.eveonline.com/news/dev-blogs/about-the-boot.ini-issue/)

edit - (oh right... physical harm... nm)

What? Corrupting an operating system != a bricked computer....

Clasick
07-11-2014, 01:26 PM
You could run EQ in a virtual machine, you could run your hack on a separate machine... those are just the first two that come to mind

Don't be so arrogant to think you know better then a team of people working on the anti-hack for longer then your 5 min.

Go ahead and try you VM Hacks and let us know how it works out for you.

PS: Don't let the door hit you on your way out

<3

|3igHurb
07-11-2014, 01:27 PM
lol ran into a hacker last night on red, Girlfriend in steamfont... instawarped and admitted to it... abacab already told u guys how to try and circumvent the dll and he was right

happyhappy
07-11-2014, 01:28 PM
http://i.imgur.com/xm3zBKs.jpg

Cookiefist
07-11-2014, 01:39 PM
$1500 sounds like enough money for a mid-high end PC.

Yeah sounds like its a kickstarter for his PC he wants!

myriverse
07-11-2014, 01:42 PM
It is not dangerous.
It was not just installed in the last update. It's been part of the game for ages (since 2011, I think).
It does not make your system insecure.
It certainly does not turn your system into a brick.

However, tin foil hats supplied separately.

ChocoboExodus
07-11-2014, 01:47 PM
It is not dangerous.
It was not just installed in the last update. It's been part of the game for ages (since 2011, I think).
It does not make your system insecure.
It certainly does not turn your system into a brick.

However, tin foil hats supplied separately.

If it's been there so long why did my antivirus catch it today?

yorumi
07-11-2014, 01:52 PM
If it's been there so long why did my antivirus catch it today?

Lets see, some possibilities, you have a terrible AV, AV programs arn't people and are just looking for patterns, they get false positives all the time. Monitoring memory addresses is a signature of a virus but also something non-dangerous programs can do as well. And the fact that you think you can brick a computer by messing with the system folder(does this even access the system folder?) shows you don't really know what you're talking about anyway.

myriverse
07-11-2014, 01:58 PM
If it's been there so long why did my antivirus catch it today?
Your AV changed.

Ele
07-11-2014, 02:05 PM
Someone may have reported it as a trojan/virus to the AV program recently causing it to be picked up. Hackers/scrubs were reporting the dll when it first came out to AV programs because they are terrible at EQ without hacks.

JayN
07-11-2014, 02:12 PM
the injustice that is DSETUP.DLL will not stand, young lawyers unit its time to sue! new 1500 dolla PC's for all!

Elizabetha
07-11-2014, 02:57 PM
The real question: isn't a frog an amphibian?

ChocoboExodus
07-11-2014, 03:17 PM
Lets see, some possibilities, you have a terrible AV, AV programs arn't people and are just looking for patterns, they get false positives all the time. Monitoring memory addresses is a signature of a virus but also something non-dangerous programs can do as well. And the fact that you think you can brick a computer by messing with the system folder(does this even access the system folder?) shows you don't really know what you're talking about anyway.

I'm not the OP....

I don't agree with OP at all but I disagree with your assessments.

Your AV changed.

Nah same AV.

Not accusing the devs of any wrong doing, just wondering why it popped up today and not before (I just installed p99 about a week ago which probably contributes to it. First update since installing is probably why?)

yorumi
07-11-2014, 03:23 PM
I'm not the OP....

I don't agree with OP at all but I disagree with your assessments.


Sorry wasn't paying attention.

The general statement that it's doing things similar to what you'd expect a virus is true though. The encryption on the file also throws them off too.

Grimjaw
07-11-2014, 03:24 PM
possibly a fix here from Rogean:

http://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=157414


and LOL @ OP - only addressing these concerns while the DLL is being flagged as a false-positive. What about before the patch? No concerns then? And after this fix, no flag no concern? if u really cared u wouldn't be playin at all, regardless of what ur AV says.

fadetree
07-11-2014, 03:28 PM
I
Nah same AV.


Your AV gets new signatures data all the time. Its this data that controls what gets alerted on.

Sadre Spinegnawer
07-11-2014, 03:30 PM
Some of you guys are making fun about this, but it's pretty well known that before he leaves office, Obama is planning to turn all of our computers to bricks.

This could be part of that, is all I'm suggesting.

And, the bad code the OP mentions might not have even been put in by the devs. It's called "fish hooking"' by the spooks at Langley. So let's not rush to judgment here.

WAKE UP SHEEPLE

|3igHurb
07-11-2014, 03:35 PM
^ heheh i see wut u did there

Shodo
07-11-2014, 03:36 PM
I'm not the OP....

I don't agree with OP at all but I disagree with your assessments.



Nah same AV.

Not accusing the devs of any wrong doing, just wondering why it popped up today and not before (I just installed p99 about a week ago which probably contributes to it. First update since installing is probably why?)

You don't have to change which program you're running for your AV to "change." New updates for AV programs' dictionaries are typically downloaded weekly, or even daily, depending on the software and which settings you've selected. It's possible that some one reported the file as a potential virus/malicious software for one reason or another, and your AV software added the file/signature to its database today (or at any time after the last check was run).

a_gnoll_pup
07-11-2014, 03:38 PM
Come back when you've dumped it from memory and have proof to your absurd claims.

The DLL does not even tamper with the system folder. Don't believe me, dump it after it unpacks itself from memory with Olly. Look for %systemroot%. You won't find it.

There is absolutely nothing malicious about the DLL. Sorry you can't cheat.

JayN
07-11-2014, 03:47 PM
Come back when you've dumped it from memory and have proof to your absurd claims.

The DLL does not even tamper with the system folder. Don't believe me, dump it after it unpacks itself from memory with Olly. Look for %systemroot%. You won't find it.

There is absolutely nothing malicious about the DLL. Sorry you can't cheat.

does this mean no more free new computers?

DAMN U OBAMA ROGEAN STEALING MY MGHZ

Tiggles
07-11-2014, 04:07 PM
Ban this fuck.

Sckrilla
07-11-2014, 04:24 PM
Ban this fuck.

Clark
07-11-2014, 04:26 PM
Lol, no.

ChocoboExodus
07-11-2014, 05:23 PM
You don't have to change which program you're running for your AV to "change." New updates for AV programs' dictionaries are typically downloaded weekly, or even daily, depending on the software and which settings you've selected. It's possible that some one reported the file as a potential virus/malicious software for one reason or another, and your AV software added the file/signature to its database today (or at any time after the last check was run).

Oh absolutely. The way OP was talking I had assumed this was an issue for a huge part of the player base and was wondering why it triggered the same day OP posted this. Could just be a coincidence of course.

Champion_Standing
07-11-2014, 05:37 PM
P99 confirmed worse than NSA

Xer0
07-11-2014, 05:39 PM
P99 confirmed worse than NSA

http://i.imgur.com/JH5jiT4.jpg

phacemeltar
07-11-2014, 05:42 PM
sirkens botnet

Ambrotos
07-11-2014, 05:48 PM
It was already spilled that it uses cpu processes for bit con miner. How do you think they get all the new servers for the program? duh

bluntzup
07-11-2014, 07:12 PM
I use AVG and added the file as an exception.
That's it...... really... that's it like everyone has been telling you



you know i was doing the same thing, and just ignoring it. but my antivirus is now pickup the generic11 file in other areas such as the systems folders. i wonder whats the cause for it spreading?

hynch
07-11-2014, 07:23 PM
If you don't like the DLL then stop playing the game. That damn Obama has everyone thinking that they are entitled to all their wants and desires. Playing on P99 is a choice not a right. Even Burger King dropped the slogan "Have it your way." because they knew it was bullshit.

Swish
07-11-2014, 07:30 PM
The sanctity of this forum has been fouled.

Teako
07-11-2014, 08:06 PM
Crazy fact: The DLL only launches when you log into P99.

Don't like it? Don't play! Bye!

Daywolf
07-11-2014, 08:09 PM
It's Bush's fault.
AVG is just a tool of the NSA.
The alien mothership in orbit transmits their AVG Technology definition updates through thought waves directly to your PC and then uploads all your pr0n.

lvpa
07-11-2014, 11:23 PM
I didn't really expect anything different than this from the assholes that troll these forums, but I'm still always a little surprised at what nonstop, useless assholes they are. Enjoy your little sandbox.

The problem isn't just that we don't know what this program is doing. That's less than half the problem. The main problem is that, upon discovering that this software is monitoring my system, all I've gotten is a "FU, we won't tell you what we're doing on your system, what's being collected or altered, deal with it or don't play EQ."

I have no reason to distrust the devs, but I don't have any reason to trust them either, especially when they act like this.

That's a lot of trust to put in an anonymous person on the internet. I had a credit card number stolen once and I still don't know how; I'm really careful. Luckily the bank refunded all the money. I had a steam account stolen, and my password was about 3 miles long, I'd never used it before, and had only entered it twice when signing up for Steam.

I don't know these people personally, or how well they know each other. That's only a problem because they've made it a problem, by being underhanded about it, and rude, in an era of openness.

Anyway, I won't be back on these forums-- they're even worse than I remembered. It's the kind of petty, insular festering you see in internet communities that have existed for too long. Enjoy it, because you can't act like that in the rest of the internet anymore. Gone are those days. Stay here.

Frieza_Prexus
07-11-2014, 11:45 PM
We're choking on your smug cloud.

Look, you came here and dropped multiple posts in different forums complaining. Then you took to Reddit and threatened to develop a s33kret hack that you would make public just out of spite.

Stop acting so entitled and people may take you more seriously. As it is, you're just a broken record that hasn't done the slightest bit of research into what the DLL is, why it exists, and why it won't be changed. You just did the EQ Emu equivalent of walking into Palestine waving an Israeli flag while eating a kosher hotdog.

You're being castigated because you're acting like a pariah.

Ambrotos
07-11-2014, 11:46 PM
http://media.tumblr.com/5a6ecbd987136c66b6c1c2b61ec2da64/tumblr_inline_mnn6p28yn61qz4rgp.gif

kaev
07-11-2014, 11:50 PM
Freiza was much too polite. I'm probably too polite too, but...

Stop acting so entitled, nobody takes you seriously. You're being castigated because you're acting like a self-serving toolbag desperately in love with your own special brand of diskishness.

hynch
07-12-2014, 12:01 AM
Where is the link to this reddit tomfoolery?

Frieza_Prexus
07-12-2014, 12:21 AM
Where is the link to this reddit tomfoolery?

He edited out the threat, but my quote saved it. http://www.project1999.com/forums/showpost.php?p=1530437&postcount=57

Reddit: http://www.reddit.com/r/project1999/comments/2afu0o/open_message_to_the_devs_about_the_dangerous/

applesauce25r624
07-12-2014, 04:30 AM
ah wow i think that's 2 threads in 2 days. added to sig

Bruno
07-12-2014, 04:55 AM
There's nothing like seeing the hackers getting stirred up.

fastboy21
07-12-2014, 06:36 AM
i trust rogean more than my local police, most of our congressmen, my governor (i live in nj), and obama.

phacemeltar
07-12-2014, 06:50 AM
i would like to point out that there have been references to said DLL that would suggest that it grants the capabilities to view users screen, act as keylogger, and monitor other system processes. considering the history of GM corruption (albeit rumorcraft), i would expect at least a little more transparency from the devs about what this file is capable of doing.

since this transparency would therefore allow scum to circumvent the defenses which the DLL was created for, i think that a little bit of courtesy should be granted this person who is worried about their system. OP makes a great point when they state that most of the comments in this thread are rude, and honestly most of you fucking retards need to formulate a unique idea.. half of the comments are just repetitions of what you thought was funny earlier in thread.

a note to OP: realize that this server is not maintained with the intention of serving you. this is a private server that allows players like you and me to connect. the devs could just whitelist their friends' IPs and never have to deal with this kind of crap anymore, so please tread gently with what we all are able to enjoy.

Troxx
07-12-2014, 07:06 AM
Don't like it?

Don't play.

weirdguy508
07-12-2014, 07:07 AM
I do admit I would like a little disclaimer about the file, just saying its not harmful and AVs will flag it, and telling us what it does. BUT at the same time I trust Rogean. He is a gamer like most of us and loves EQ. He wants us all to have a cheater free fun time. So I do not believe he would let a file in a patch that he does not trust him self. I understand some are skeptical about it, but why? Because a few have said it does this, and does that. But think about this are they dev? Do they truly know what this file does. I can sit here all day and say I have decrypted the file and know exactly what it does. The reality is though, they don't know shit. They are just trying to scare the community as a whole. Hell they are probably trying to get the file removed for there own evil purpose. So calm your tits put the file on the exception list, like most have already done, and play the game you love. If you can't get past that, sorry to say it, but good bye. You will be missed by some, but the rest of use that have brains, will keep playing, stupid AVs or not. We love our EverCrack.

Daywolf
07-12-2014, 07:22 AM
Well must be working, peeps gettin real upset they cant use their hackz anymore, blowin up callin everyone all sorts of dirty lil names. Awwwwww... poor kittens, neez their heads rubbed.
http://i.imgur.com/CYZ8CqA.gif

Thread made me lolz :D 10/10

Erydan Ouragan
07-12-2014, 07:35 AM
I do admit I would like a little disclaimer about the file, just saying its not harmful and AVs will flag it, and telling us what it does. BUT at the same time I trust Rogean. He is a gamer like most of us and loves EQ. He wants us all to have a cheater free fun time. So I do not believe he would let a file in a patch that he does not trust him self. I understand some are skeptical about it, but why? Because a few have said it does this, and does that. But think about this are they dev? Do they truly know what this file does. I can sit here all day and say I have decrypted the file and know exactly what it does. The reality is though, they don't know shit. They are just trying to scare the community as a whole. Hell they are probably trying to get the file removed for there own evil purpose. So calm your tits put the file on the exception list, like most have already done, and play the game you love. If you can't get past that, sorry to say it, but good bye. You will be missed by some, but the rest of use that have brains, will keep playing, stupid AVs or not. We love our EverCrack.

This right there.

With the amount of his (and this applies to the rest of the staff) free time he put into this FREE project, i really don't get the distrust.

The man has put FIVE YEARS into this, do you really think he cares about your "private roleplaying sessions" involving naked lvl 1 wood elves in Kelethin? Stealing your identity or your credit card? Trust me, there's ways to do that, that are much faster and easier than creating and running a EQ emu server.

myriverse
07-12-2014, 07:39 AM
you know i was doing the same thing, and just ignoring it. but my antivirus is now pickup the generic11 file in other areas such as the systems folders. i wonder whats the cause for it spreading?
That doesn't suggest it's spreading. That just suggests you have multiple files on your system that your AV doesn't like.

I have no reason to distrust the devs, but I don't have any reason to trust them either, especially when they act like this.
You're coming into their house to use their resources. I'd say that's a reason to trust them... if you, y'know, want to. They actually been fairly upfront about this. I took the time to read about dsetup.dll before I even joined.

Well must be working, peeps gettin real upset they cant use their hackz anymore, blowin up callin everyone all sorts of dirty lil names. Awwwwww... poor kittens, neez their heads rubbed.
It's not a new thing, so it's not that they can't use their hacks anymore. It's been there for 3 years. It's only that their AV program is wrongly flagging it as peculiar.

Sirken
07-12-2014, 07:50 AM
http://community.us.playstation.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/227169i6165B99218F75ACB/image-size/original?v=mpbl-1&px=-1

weirdguy508
07-12-2014, 07:55 AM
http://community.us.playstation.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/227169i6165B99218F75ACB/image-size/original?v=mpbl-1&px=-1

Where is the like button when you need it LOL

Tiggles
07-12-2014, 08:29 AM
Hey guys I was browsing the p99 subreddit and I noticed that the OP posted the same rant on there as well.
http://www.reddit.com/r/project1999/comments/2afu0o/open_message_to_the_devs_about_the_dangerous/

Being curious I clicked on his username and what I found shocked me.

http://www.reddit.com/user/lecherous_hump


http://i.imgur.com/IrAu0FQ.jpg


Chloroformed girls? Count down to legal? .....Loli animals?

Jesus Christ dude your a degenerate.

I know why you don't want the staff looking at your PC because I bet its filled with child porn.

If I was the staff I would ban you from the server just as a precaution.

Brynnag
07-12-2014, 08:35 AM
Hey guys I was browsing the p99 subreddit and I noticed that the OP posted the same rant on there as well.
http://www.reddit.com/r/project1999/comments/2afu0o/open_message_to_the_devs_about_the_dangerous/

Being curious I clicked on his username and what I found shocked me.

http://www.reddit.com/user/lecherous_hump


http://i.imgur.com/IrAu0FQ.jpg


Chloroformed girls? Count down to legal? .....Loli animals?

Jesus Christ dude your a degenerate.

I know why you don't want the staff looking at your PC because I bet its filled with child porn.

If I was the staff I would ban you from the server just as a precaution.

lol

phacemeltar
07-12-2014, 08:35 AM
Hey guys I was browsing the p99 subreddit and I noticed that the OP posted the same rant on there as well.
http://www.reddit.com/r/project1999/comments/2afu0o/open_message_to_the_devs_about_the_dangerous/

Being curious I clicked on his username and what I found shocked me.

http://www.reddit.com/user/lecherous_hump


http://i.imgur.com/IrAu0FQ.jpg


Chloroformed girls? Count down to legal? .....Loli animals?

Jesus Christ dude your a degenerate.

I know why you don't want the staff looking at your PC because I bet its filled with child porn.

If I was the staff I would ban you from the server just as a precaution.

goodness

Tiggles
07-12-2014, 08:39 AM
goodness

Didn't click those links but I wonder what girlsnanimals is. I bet it has pictures of girls petting bunnies and.....oh...oh my...


Please RNF this thread so my pals can see it then ban/report this dude to the FBI

Clark
07-12-2014, 08:51 AM
LOL

Messianic
07-12-2014, 09:48 AM
Confirmed degenerate hacker

Bruno
07-12-2014, 10:16 AM
It's no wonder why this sicko didn't want people in his computer.

Dragonsblood1987
07-12-2014, 10:31 AM
Hey guys I was browsing the p99 subreddit and I noticed that the OP posted the same rant on there as well.
http://www.reddit.com/r/project1999/comments/2afu0o/open_message_to_the_devs_about_the_dangerous/

Being curious I clicked on his username and what I found shocked me.

http://www.reddit.com/user/lecherous_hump


http://i.imgur.com/IrAu0FQ.jpg


Chloroformed girls? Count down to legal? .....Loli animals?

Jesus Christ dude your a degenerate.

I know why you don't want the staff looking at your PC because I bet its filled with child porn.

If I was the staff I would ban you from the server just as a precaution.

http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f5/HangmenHeaven/Response%20Face/Hansen_blank_background.jpg

Shodo
07-12-2014, 10:35 AM
Can't help but be curious... GirlsNAnimals... Pictures of girls and kittens playing... Kimmie repeatedly posts these... Quick, update the Investigation Board!

Mongaloid1612
07-12-2014, 10:42 AM
I think Tiggles might of pulled up his own account there He loves Psychotic taylor swift + Liza golden can i get confirmation?

Tiggles
07-12-2014, 11:16 AM
I think Tiggles might of pulled up his own account there He loves Psychotic taylor swift + Liza golden can i get confirmation?

I only know one of those two people.

Pheer
07-12-2014, 11:25 AM
lol

all those creepy as fuck subreddits then one about cryptocurrency mining

Guess the people selling chloroform CP videos these days only accept bitcoins huh?

Sadre Spinegnawer
07-12-2014, 12:53 PM
sirkens botnet

brilliant

Derubael
07-12-2014, 02:00 PM
I'd but kind of curious how you actually brick a computer. Sure you could scramble the OS or encrypt everything but that would only take a format and reinstall. I'm sure it's possible somehow but causing real permanent physical harm to a computer would have to be fairly difficult.

Shockingly enough, you used to be able to make certain apple products explode (Read: blow up in your lap):

http://www.cracked.com/article_19412_8-things-you-wont-believe-can-be-hacked.html

Read #8.

Come back when you've dumped it from memory and have proof to your absurd claims.

The DLL does not even tamper with the system folder. Don't believe me, dump it after it unpacks itself from memory with Olly. Look for %systemroot%. You won't find it.

There is absolutely nothing malicious about the DLL. Sorry you can't cheat.

The wacky part of all this is the DLL wasn't even modified last patch. It's the same .DLL that we were using before the patch.

I didn't really expect anything different than this from the assholes that troll these forums, but I'm still always a little surprised at what nonstop, useless assholes they are. Enjoy your little sandbox.

The problem isn't just that we don't know what this program is doing. That's less than half the problem. The main problem is that, upon discovering that this software is monitoring my system, all I've gotten is a "FU, we won't tell you what we're doing on your system, what's being collected or altered, deal with it or don't play EQ."

I have no reason to distrust the devs, but I don't have any reason to trust them either, especially when they act like this.

That's a lot of trust to put in an anonymous person on the internet. I had a credit card number stolen once and I still don't know how; I'm really careful. Luckily the bank refunded all the money. I had a steam account stolen, and my password was about 3 miles long, I'd never used it before, and had only entered it twice when signing up for Steam.

I don't know these people personally, or how well they know each other. That's only a problem because they've made it a problem, by being underhanded about it, and rude, in an era of openness.

Anyway, I won't be back on these forums-- they're even worse than I remembered. It's the kind of petty, insular festering you see in internet communities that have existed for too long. Enjoy it, because you can't act like that in the rest of the internet anymore. Gone are those days. Stay here.

Act like what...? We aren't going to release the .DLL and let everyone see how to avoid it. If you don't trust us, we are OK with that - we'd rather have a cheat-free server than drop our cheat protection because you don't trust us.

Hey guys I was browsing the p99 subreddit and I noticed that the OP posted the same rant on there as well.
http://www.reddit.com/r/project1999/comments/2afu0o/open_message_to_the_devs_about_the_dangerous/

Being curious I clicked on his username and what I found shocked me.

http://www.reddit.com/user/lecherous_hump


http://i.imgur.com/IrAu0FQ.jpg


Chloroformed girls? Count down to legal? .....Loli animals?

Jesus Christ dude your a degenerate.

I know why you don't want the staff looking at your PC because I bet its filled with child porn.

If I was the staff I would ban you from the server just as a precaution.

duuude...

|3igHurb
07-12-2014, 02:22 PM
HAHAHAH OP IS A PEDO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Dragonsblood1987
07-12-2014, 02:53 PM
HAHAHAH OP IS A PEDO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

old news

Tiggles
07-12-2014, 04:01 PM
Hey cool the thread of RNF'd

I assume the OP will never post here again.

Sadre Spinegnawer
07-12-2014, 08:14 PM
should of kept it in server chat, and stickied it, and changed title to "Angry haxxors faking paranoia template: here is how it is done, folks."

Grimjaw
07-13-2014, 02:32 PM
in other gaming news, EVE Onlines new patch is being blocked by some peoples antivirus/firewall:

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=80734&find=unread

Grimjaw
07-13-2014, 02:32 PM
^ WHERE DO WE SUE ?!?!?!

Grimjaw
07-13-2014, 02:41 PM
Hey guys I was browsing the p99 subreddit and I noticed that the OP posted the same rant on there as well.
http://www.reddit.com/r/project1999/comments/2afu0o/open_message_to_the_devs_about_the_dangerous/

Being curious I clicked on his username and what I found shocked me.

http://www.reddit.com/user/lecherous_hump


http://i.imgur.com/IrAu0FQ.jpg


Chloroformed girls? Count down to legal? .....Loli animals?

Jesus Christ dude your a degenerate.

I know why you don't want the staff looking at your PC because I bet its filled with child porn.

If I was the staff I would ban you from the server just as a precaution.



mother of god....

Grimjaw
07-13-2014, 02:54 PM
also the irony of this guy worrying about whether or not something someone else is doing on the internet...

Grimjaw
07-13-2014, 02:54 PM
is illegal or not

myriverse
07-13-2014, 04:09 PM
^ WHERE DO WE SUE ?!?!?!
Plane of Justice not classic!

Daywolf
07-13-2014, 05:50 PM
in other gaming news, EVE Onlines new patch is being blocked by some peoples antivirus/firewall:

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=80734&find=unread
more Psssshhhhh

Rhambuk
07-14-2014, 07:23 AM
Doesn't both me any, more harmful files to bring down the pop imo!

Smedy
07-14-2014, 09:12 AM
lul tiggles with the investigation, got smedy approval on this, guud dramalama on a monday

weirdguy508
07-14-2014, 09:26 AM
Plane of Justice not classic!

Lol

phacemeltar
07-14-2014, 10:21 AM
http://s3-ec.buzzfed.com/static/enhanced/web03/2012/8/8/13/anigif_enhanced-buzz-13265-1344445293-0.gif

indiscriminate_hater
07-14-2014, 06:23 PM
pretty solid thread. any word from OP?

phacemeltar
07-14-2014, 06:25 PM
probably in some FBI lockup by now

Brujean
07-15-2014, 04:46 AM
Hey guys I was browsing the p99 subreddit and I noticed that the OP posted the same rant on there as well.
http://www.reddit.com/r/project1999/comments/2afu0o/open_message_to_the_devs_about_the_dangerous/

Being curious I clicked on his username and what I found shocked me.

http://www.reddit.com/user/lecherous_hump


http://i.imgur.com/IrAu0FQ.jpg


Chloroformed girls? Count down to legal? .....Loli animals?

Jesus Christ dude your a degenerate.

I know why you don't want the staff looking at your PC because I bet its filled with child porn.

If I was the staff I would ban you from the server just as a precaution.

I laughed so hard reading this, thank you for sharing.

phacemeltar
07-17-2014, 05:34 PM
ok i am just a noob, but according to what i read on http://www.samlogic.net/articles/manifest.htm the file u guys are talking about doesnt grant them access to your machine unless you specifically give it to them. please someone tell me if im wrong?

General
07-17-2014, 08:25 PM
lol, no

Priceless response hahah X)