tell me what you really think

[Danyelle]

I think you're a person posting on a forum!

Am i insulting right?

[Tiggles]

You mean the 2 who are always camping the top of the hill, killing the whole island and leaving nothing for anybody?
Nope, they are still there. Every day.

Just KS them, They can't report you if they are botting and if they are killing slowly or taking 4+ mobs you can pull off them

I've done it 100+ times at seafuries on my mage on stream with sirken watching.

[Shiftin]

Uthgaard wasn't working for anyone, he just had a short fuse.


Eh.....


Uthgaard was paranoid and delusional, and was CONVINCED up and down that Xzerion was somehow helping IB cheat with his *extremely limited* dev powers - so much so that he basically fabricated evidence to match his delusions.

This led to him taking out his frustrations on the rest of IB - so while you're right, that he seemingly wasn't working "for" TMO or anyone else, he was absolutely working against IB. He deleted petitions we put in and then banned the people who made them from the forums, banned people in game for things that were hilariously easy to prove false, and constantly contradicted himself in really clear rulings until he completely melted down publicly.

It wasn't an IB vs TMO thing, it was 70 people in a guild suffering the fallout of a psychotic trying to punish a single person for something they didn't do in the first place.

Every GM has made decisions that puzzle different parties from time to time, but Sirken and Uthgaard don't even merit a comparison.

[Nietche]

Eh.....


Uthgaard was paranoid and delusional, and was CONVINCED up and down that Xzerion was somehow helping IB cheat with his *extremely limited* dev powers - so much so that he basically fabricated evidence to match his delusions.

This led to him taking out his frustrations on the rest of IB - so while you're right, that he seemingly wasn't working "for" TMO or anyone else, he was absolutely working against IB. He deleted petitions we put in and then banned the people who made them from the forums, banned people in game for things that were hilariously easy to prove false, and constantly contradicted himself in really clear rulings until he completely melted down publicly.

It wasn't an IB vs TMO thing, it was 70 people in a guild suffering the fallout of a psychotic trying to punish a single person for something they didn't do in the first place.

Every GM has made decisions that puzzle different parties from time to time, but Sirken and Uthgaard don't even merit a comparison.

To be fair, Uthgaard had it out for TMO too. He even inserted a rogue spy in the guild.

[Sirken]

To be fair, Uthgaard had it out for TMO too. He even inserted a rogue spy in the guild.

to be fair, i have spys in all your guilds :cool:

[Strifer]

to be fair, i have spys in all your guilds :cool:

http://i.imgur.com/RcSp583.gif

[TrendyDru]

to be fair, i have spys in all your guilds :cool:

lies

[TrendyDru]

although someone in my stream last night was tin-foil hatting to the max and thought I was your double identity

[Sirken]

i do my pranks as sirkenp99 to unsuspecting players that dont know who i am, its more fun that way ;)

[quido]

Uthgaard obviously wasn't completely wrong about Xzerion as the dude is banned for RMT now - just like so many from IB.

[Susvain2]

QUIDA WHAT DO YOU THINK OF ME

[Artaenc]

to be fair, i have spys in all your guilds :cool:

I think we kicked your spy out already from Asgard on the last purge if not we'll get you no worries! We only want Ambrotos and Eunomia in our guild thnx. No hard feelings.

[Danyelle]

I, too, would like to know what Jeremy thinks of me.

[quido]

I love you both very much

[Danyelle]

Remember when you rode me to deliver fungi tunics to the people? Ahh the good old days.

[Anobody]

These aren't directly fired at Sirken I just have a few concerns for the staff in general and it seems like you've at least glanced at this thread once.
long enough to put up a popcorn reaction .gif anyway.
why do you allow bullies like jeremy to keep playing? the dude straight-up threatened another player with the "i'm gonna hack you" act (and he was obviously not joking and all of those things are violations of state law and can even be prosecuted as felonies (http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/1030), but your response is herp derp let's all have a laugh about packets. I'm only using jeremy as an example, because it was a clearly documented event when he threw his temper tantrum and started making threats, but the problem with all of the big guilds and the horrible way they treat each other - why's it allowed to go on? Like you used to say, "one guild causing 95% of the problems on the server", can't you see that the problem isn't actually a guild, but contagious individuals who keep being allowed to continue their shitty behavior until they
why do you allow compulsive liars and rule breakers like chewie, who was caught on video, keep doing their thing? You all make the rules. he breaks them. the proof is that he intentionally trained some people because he didn't like them hunting in guk, and they were out of his PVP range. you guys just ignore it as if he has any worth to a server community at all. Every so often he deletes his forum account and starts over just to make everyone who called him out disappear, and you all just let it happen.

I love the server, I love the game, I love the concept, but GOD DAMN I hate the fuckers who ruin it and are rewarded for being what you all call toxic.

Ban everyone in this thread, pretty much.

[DeruIsLove]

Some people have had direct ties with the server devs long before the server. Nothing anyone can do about that. I think it's a form of nepotism.

[quido]

Remember when you rode me to deliver fungi tunics to the people? Ahh the good old days.

Still got that pic somewhere? Bust it out yo

[Greegon]

fuck the cubs,

go sox

[Danyelle]

Still got that pic somewhere? Bust it out yo

It just so happens, 2 years later, I do lol

http://i.imgur.com/mKqRsYG.png

[Gaffin 7.0]

u still playin live? :eek:

[Rellapse40]

live is where it is at

who the fuck wants to play kunark for 5 years

[Gaffin 7.0]

Just wonderin if Fire n Fury still going might join again

[Danyelle]

Me? I quit mostly in favor of ESO. Guild drama got to be too much. I pop in sometimes to mess around or say hi to people. But I need to get my EQ fix somewhere! So found myself back here lol.

[Gaffin 7.0]

Ah I remember seeing you on test a few times

[Danyelle]

Just wonderin if Fire n Fury still going might join again

I honestly don't know about them. I know Realm of Insanity disbanded about...1 month? Into Call of the Forsaken. Beat West Karana, Dead Hills, Bixie Warfront and Neriak 4th Gate in about 1-2 days, sat bored for a month, and said fuck it and finally left EQ. Made a big post on the forums and I used to talk to a member or two from there.

Actually FnF MAY still be around...RoI's remaining members went somewhere I just don't know where.

[Danyelle]

Ah I remember seeing you on test a few times

And you never said hi???? wtf man!

[Gaffin 7.0]

Wait wait wait RoI was on Test? Holy shit I been out of the loop, was it their original name?

[Danyelle]

Wait wait wait RoI was on Test? Holy shit I been out of the loop, was it their original name?

Nah they weren't on Test haha but a couple members copied and played with us sometimes. And i talked to a few of them in Mage's serverwide channel. Name is still (err was..) Realm of Insanity

[Rellapse40]

gaffin u know how to swarm?

[Gaffin 7.0]

Oh ok, was like w t f haha. I was in the OG roi crew on stromm. Few play here on p99 as well, didnt know rogean was in with us as well!

Yeah I played with FnF for a bit and then got back into p99 too much and didnt make any raids so I left it.

[Gaffin 7.0]

gaffin u know how to swarm?

my warrior can do it but now well since they nerfed my disc with a bigger cooldown. I use to do it quite well. Im slowly powerleveling my ranger for headshot.

[Gaffin 7.0]

not* well*

[Rellapse40]

some sk in my guild let me join him for like 30 mins the other day in grounds (lvl 85+mobs) he was swarming like 50 mobs

got 3 levels in 30 mins

[Danyelle]

gaffin u know how to swarm?

Rainbowdash could before they nerfed beam-kiting.

Note I said "could". I hated doing it. :( Boring and lame. But I did it anyway a couple times.

[Gaffin 7.0]

I can PL pretty well in feerott 2 but i think they made it a non hotzone now its some shitty zone, sucks

[Rellapse40]

you should learn how to do it since the nerf

since this sk was doing it yesterday it is still possible

and still the best exp

he shrouded down his lvl 92 alt to level 70 and got him a level in 30 mins

[Danyelle]

Yeah they changed hotzones around finally. It was a HZ for like 2 years.

Best xp I ever got beam kiting was in Evantil in Rain of Fear. Took Cecily's rogue (she gave me the info when she quit) cause I decided I wanted a rogue but was too lazy to start from scratch. Got her max Fellowship vitality, doible xp vet AA on double xp weekend (plus Test is perma double xp)...one pull (like...30 mobs) got her 91 to I think 98. Was retarded.

This is why I hated Beam kiting :P. Had all the little kiddies that xped that way and thought they knew how to play their characters at the end of it. Ugh. Most of them the same people that copied toons with full sets of top (or near top) raid gear to Test from Firiona Vie. Ugh I hated that crap.

[Rellapse40]

i have grinded all but 3 of my levels shit has taken 44444evvveeeer

[Gaffin 7.0]

you should learn how to do it since the nerf

since this sk was doing it yesterday it is still possible

and still the best exp

he shrouded down his lvl 92 alt to level 70 and got him a level in 30 mins

SK's can swarm whole zones without cool down because they aa's and epic 2.0 for it, i only have a riposte disc and mightystrike disc for aoe riposte and rampage. I can only kill about 15 mobs at once dark blue cons per disc cool down which is like 22 mins.

Im a warrior, Sk's can swarm all day long mega PL

[Rellapse40]

gaffin come power level be *****

[Gaffin 7.0]

Rangers by far have the best PL, they can headshot humanoid mobs in 1 hit, not sure if its been nerfed but ive seen people get 75-100 in like a hr with it or less

[Rellapse40]

I farmed my 1.0 epic

got my 2.0 now

[Danyelle]

Headshot was nerfed too. Was the fist one to go.

[Gaffin 7.0]

im wearing voa raid gear my shit is really outdated i need new gear

[Rellapse40]

dunno i was grouped with a 100 ranger with 10k aa's and the exp wasn't "that" great

the sk was crazy exp

[Gaffin 7.0]

Headshot was nerfed too. Was the fist one to go.

Figured as much, they made a killing off PL's in argath for a long long time

[Rellapse40]

come power level me we can be elf pals again

[Gaffin 7.0]

dunno i was grouped with a 100 ranger with 10k aa's and the exp wasn't "that" great

the sk was crazy exp

prob cuz the level range he was shrouded down to lvl 70

[Gaffin 7.0]

come power level me we can be elf pals again

what class are you anyway

[Rellapse40]

necro

[Gaffin 7.0]

Yeah they changed hotzones around finally. It was a HZ for like 2 years.

Best xp I ever got beam kiting was in Evantil in Rain of Fear. Took Cecily's rogue (she gave me the info when she quit) cause I decided I wanted a rogue but was too lazy to start from scratch. Got her max Fellowship vitality, doible xp vet AA on double xp weekend (plus Test is perma double xp)...one pull (like...30 mobs) got her 91 to I think 98. Was retarded.

This is why I hated Beam kiting :P. Had all the little kiddies that xped that way and thought they knew how to play their characters at the end of it. Ugh. Most of them the same people that copied toons with full sets of top (or near top) raid gear to Test from Firiona Vie. Ugh I hated that crap.

So I havent even done any RoF yet where the hell do I start lmao and is it any fun?

[Gaffin 7.0]

necro

dear lord, lol why necro. you got j5 merc yet?

[Rellapse40]

yea i solod the quest yestarday

[Gaffin 7.0]

have you tried the aa command? it worked for me

[Danyelle]

im wearing voa raid gear my shit is really outdated i need new gear

Aren't numbers just the coolest!

http://i.imgur.com/8Rnh0tG.jpg

And jelly cubes

http://i.imgur.com/uq1wHWu.jpg

And illusions in general (red = player illusion blue = pet illusion)

http://i.imgur.com/oBrDM5H.jpg

What...have I done with my life?

[Gaffin 7.0]

thats good the j5 rogue merc does work on burn mode, we could prolly kill alot of shit with my healer merc

[Gaffin 7.0]

haha holy shit nice, you have a little more hp than my warrior unbuffed

[Rellapse40]

http://i.imgur.com/oBrDM5H.jpg

holy shit

[Gaffin 7.0]

i just keep my aon, guise, the iksar mask i quested

[Rellapse40]

thats good the j5 rogue merc does work on burn mode, we could prolly kill alot of shit with my healer merc

I have not tried any of the dps mercs yet

i used the tank merc to lvl 72 then switched to a healer and have been kiting

[Gaffin 7.0]

the rogue mercs get really insane dps at higher level, if i use my j5 rogue it will pull aggro over me using all 20 aa's for aggro as war

[Greegon]

fuck the sox.
no actually, fuck the entire south side.

love,
The Northside


staff
corruption
confirmed

[Rellapse40]

thinking about it now

the rogue merc would go great with me kiteing

[Danyelle]

When I quit and gave guild leadership over to someone else they kept going, and have gotten quite a bit farther than we were (I quit when ESO was released so like 3 months ago? four?). We WERE in T2 RoF. They are in T1 CoTF and T4 RoF now. So RBD is a bit behind, that helm is an evolving item from a T2 raid though, best helm currently in game.

And yeah RoF is fun. Nothing they come out with is as fun as Classic EQ really anymore, BUT as far as modern expacs go RoF was probably one of my favorites. A lot of nostalgia (They coped and revamped Eastern Wastes (http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/zone.html?zstrat=868)/Crystal Caverns (http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/zone.html?zstrat=870)/Kael Drakkel (http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/zone.html?zstrat=869) and a raid instance of North Wing Temple of Veeshan (http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/zone.html?zstrat=876) for their T1 content. Doesn't replace the old zones, treated as separate zones, the geometry is the exact same. Was fun as fuck. Especially the Kael raid. Omfg I loved that.

[Gaffin 7.0]

wuts ur name i may log on in a bit gonna walk down to the store for cigs

[Gaffin 7.0]

how do i get to RoF and what tasks should I start with? im a complete newb to it... any solo tasks or all group?

[Rellapse40]

relapsed and aimtoplease

[Rellapse40]

intercorpse

[Danyelle]

how do i get to RoF and what tasks should I start with? im a complete newb to it... any solo tasks or all group?

Go to Erillion, City of Bronze on Alaris. There's a tunnel to Shard's Landing in the upper corner. Shard's Landing is the 'hub zone' with portals to all the other zones. In order to use the portals you have to run to the zone manually first and 'attune' yourself to the portal:

(Each 'zone line' is a giant purple fear shard you have to click)

T1:

Eastern Wastes 2.0 zone = Velious Eastern Wastes
Crystal Caverns/Kael Drakkel are entered from within Eastern Wastes 2.0 and don't have portals to them

T2:

Breeding Grounds = Dragon Necropolis
Valley of King Xorbb = Gorge of King Xorbb
Chapterhouse of the Fallen = Commonlands (outside Befallen entrance)
Evantil, The Vile Oak = Beasts' Domain (VoA)
Grelleth's Palace = Resplendent Temple (VoA)

T3:

Chelsith Reborn = The Grey (The pool with the iksar skeletons surrounding it in the corner)
Plane of Shadow = Vex Thal (in the courtyard)

T4:

Heart of Fear = The GIANT fear shard in the middle of Shard's Landing

There's solo tasks and 1-2 group missions in every zone. Group missions require you to have finished the solo tasks, or have someone who has request them.

[Rhambuk]

and I thought it was crazy when I quit

[Gaffin 7.0]

Go to Erillion, City of Bronze on Alaris. There's a tunnel to Shard's Landing in the upper corner. Shard's Landing is the 'hub zone' with portals to all the other zones. In order to use the portals you have to run to the zone manually first and 'attune' yourself to the portal:

(Each 'zone line' is a giant purple fear shard you have to click)

T1:

Eastern Wastes 2.0 zone = Velious Eastern Wastes
Crystal Caverns/Kael Drakkel are entered from within Eastern Wastes 2.0 and don't have portals to them

T2:

Breeding Grounds = Dragon Necropolis
Valley of King Xorbb = Gorge of King Xorbb
Chapterhouse of the Fallen = Commonlands (outside Befallen entrance)
Evantil, The Vile Oak = Beasts' Domain (VoA)
Grelleth's Palace = Resplendent Temple (VoA)

T3:

Chelsith Reborn = The Grey (The pool with the iksar skeletons surrounding it in the corner)
Plane of Shadow = Vex Thal (in the courtyard)

T4:

Heart of Fear = The GIANT fear shard in the middle of Shard's Landing

There's solo tasks and 1-2 group missions in every zone. Group missions require you to have finished the solo tasks, or have someone who has request them.

this is awesome thanks

[Danyelle]

this is awesome thanks

no problem. If you end up playing let me know I can log in and dick around with ya.

[Thulack]

http://s3.postimg.org/d4ae0ul03/EQ000030.png (http://postimage.org/)
host image (http://postimage.org/)

Binary HP FTW :P....Havent played live in almost 2 years though. Offline bazaar and threatmeter was my final straws.

[Conky]

You've helped me with a refund on a botched turn in for my epic and I always felt that your fair and enjoy your stream.

[Greegon]

sorry sirkpal tried to keep thread on topic

[|3igHurb]

Sirken, sip the drips from the tips with ur lips

the dick tips

[visage]

You ass licked Brad Mquid..... and still think your a cool guy..... you are silly nilly

[Herpa Derp]

i pee out of my butt but i still only pee while standin up ;)

[Sirken]

yup

[mikemandella]

Can you please adresss some of the threads regarding the concerns the majority of players on r99 have? I'm not saying make a decision I just think we should hear them out.

[Sirken]

what threads are those? "now we need this" or "Now we need that" etc? thats been going on for years.

what r99 truly needs is a halfway decent community that can police itself, as opposed to encouraging each other into griefing and scumbaggery. the biggest problem with red is that its like blue but 10x smaller. but at the root, its the same problem; you have casuals versus hardcores.

the hardcores want a more hardcore game, the casuals want a more casual game. they separate by play style into opposing guilds.

but it doesn't matter, most redpals are too dumb to even notice the pros and cons of going back and getting that new player over and over, just because hes an easier kill than the people that have been there 2+ yrs and it helps make their epeen feel big and important.

[Yumyums Inmahtumtums]

Shots fucking fired

[mikemandella]

what threads are those? "now we need this" or "Now we need that" etc? thats been going on for years.

what r99 truly needs is a halfway decent community that can police itself, as opposed to encouraging each other into griefing and scumbaggery. the biggest problem with red is that its like blue but 10x smaller. but at the root, its the same problem; you have casuals versus hardcores.

the hardcores want a more hardcore game, the casuals want a more casual game. they separate by play style into opposing guilds.

but it doesn't matter, most redpals are too dumb to even notice the pros and cons of going back and getting that new player over and over, just because hes an easier kill than the people that have been there 2+ yrs and it helps make their epeen feel big and important.

Thanks for responding. I agree the community is the biggest factor. However, that is also the hardest thing to influence. One of the ideas is variance... Once in.. it is ZERO maintenance. I guess nobody understands why it's so hard to just try it for a few months and see if it get's better. In all reality the server will HAVE to switch to variance at some point. On live we are already supposed to be in Plane of Time. Here is the thing. If the majority is in favor of it would the staff even consider just trying it.. you know. for science "D

[Dragonsblood1987]

what r99 truly needs is a halfway decent community that can police itself

remember that time AG got a raid suspension for sending a few people to help europa and literally every class r guild leader said "dont ban them"? yeeeah.. so much for players policing themselves.

[iiNGloriouS]

Sirken, I think you smell like garbage mixed with fresh spring scent.

<3

[HippoNipple]

what threads are those? "now we need this" or "Now we need that" etc? thats been going on for years.

what r99 truly needs is a halfway decent community that can police itself, as opposed to encouraging each other into griefing and scumbaggery. the biggest problem with red is that its like blue but 10x smaller. but at the root, its the same problem; you have casuals versus hardcores.

the hardcores want a more hardcore game, the casuals want a more casual game. they separate by play style into opposing guilds.

but it doesn't matter, most redpals are too dumb to even notice the pros and cons of going back and getting that new player over and over, just because hes an easier kill than the people that have been there 2+ yrs and it helps make their epeen feel big and important.

Holy shit it sickens me how far off you are since you are currently the longest active GM for red99.

Nihilum has a ton of casuals. Since the beginning of red99 it has never been a split between hardcore and casual players.

What hurts red99 are things like:

-resists
-melee hitting 2x as hard as they should
-ninja nerfing exp and lying about it to a bunch of nerds that know the game inside and out because they have nothing else to do
-bringing up false promises of a new server so people have a reason to not invest time into red99 then never working on it or giving updates
-stale content (not anyone's fault, that is what this server is about, eventually people will get bored and move on)

Don't blame the community, it is what it is. If these basement dweller's parents/teachers/mentors couldn't get through to them to make them functioning members of society this emulator isn't going to.

With that said the community actually is okay considering what you would expect. If you ask a new player they will tell you that people are much nicer to them than people are on blue. People are excited when new people come to the server and hook them up. Don't mix up PvP with griefing. Even twinks will be cool with players after they kill them as long as the loser doesn't rage and provoke more killing.

You want to know why RZ policed themselves back in 1999? It was because there was item loot so the people scared to lose items united against the PKers. It is the vision and rule set that provides the structure. This means Red99 lacked the vision to recreate an environment like RZ back in 1999. The hybrid blue/red FFA server that is Red99 doesn't naturally create a self policing community.


The game itself is good enough to attract and retain players, just don't fuck it up and try to listen to what the community is telling you. Coherent meaningful feedback turns into whining once it is mocked or ignored long enough.

I understand as well as anyone that most of the time people don't know what is good for them so I admit taking every suggestion would be counter productive.

GMs/Devs are easily as much to blame as the community is for any population decline.

[|3igHurb]

ass raped

[Archalen]

Don't blame the community, it is what it is. If these basement dweller's parents/teachers/mentors couldn't get through to them to make them functioning members of society this emulator isn't going to.



lol

[Colgate]

Holy shit it sickens me how far off you are since you are currently the longest active GM for red99.

Nihilum has a ton of casuals. Since the beginning of red99 it has never been a split between hardcore and casual players.

What hurts red99 are things like:

-resists
-melee hitting 2x as hard as they should
-ninja nerfing exp and lying about it to a bunch of nerds that know the game inside and out because they have nothing else to do
-bringing up false promises of a new server so people have a reason to not invest time into red99 then never working on it or giving updates
-stale content (not anyone's fault, that is what this server is about, eventually people will get bored and move on)

Don't blame the community, it is what it is. If these basement dweller's parents/teachers/mentors couldn't get through to them to make them functioning members of society this emulator isn't going to.

With that said the community actually is okay considering what you would expect. If you ask a new player they will tell you that people are much nicer to them than people are on blue. People are excited when new people come to the server and hook them up. Don't mix up PvP with griefing. Even twinks will be cool with players after they kill them as long as the loser doesn't rage and provoke more killing.

You want to know why RZ policed themselves back in 1999? It was because there was item loot so the people scared to lose items united against the PKers. It is the vision and rule set that provides the structure. This means Red99 lacked the vision to recreate an environment like RZ back in 1999. The hybrid blue/red FFA server that is Red99 doesn't naturally create a self policing community.


The game itself is good enough to attract and retain players, just don't fuck it up and try to listen to what the community is telling you. Coherent meaningful feedback turns into whining once it is mocked or ignored long enough.

I understand as well as anyone that most of the time people don't know what is good for them so I admit taking every suggestion would be counter productive.

GMs/Devs are easily as much to blame as the community is for any population decline.

ya this post is p much spot on

sirken is very out of touch with reality if he actually believes the shit he says

[DeruIsLove]

Nobody cares about you red. Sorry to say, you don't matter. Red is an extra server that was lying around so they let Sirks toy around on it when he's bored, you kids are a byproduct of that playground.

Deal with it.

[HippoNipple]

Nobody cares about you red. Sorry to say, you don't matter. Red is an extra server that was lying around so they let Sirks toy around on it when he's bored, you kids are a byproduct of that playground.

Deal with it.

Why are you a little bitch though?

[|3igHurb]

Sirken also bans for Dicks, yet he has a Dick (allegedly)

help this man to relax everyone.

[Fame]

You'll never be as cool as Zade or Derupal, sorry about the bong.

[DeruIsLove]

Why are you a little bitch though?

Shining example of the byproduct.

[HippoNipple]

Shining example of the byproduct.

You are so dumb. Go insult more people for playing on a 15 year old elf sim while you are playing the exact same game on bitch mode. Can't even call someone out with a real forum account. Hiding behind a troll account like a little bitch.

[Brynnag]

Whats going on in here?

[Whirled]

Whats going on in here?

http://i3.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/131/288/spongebob-butthurt.gif

[Rhambuk]

lol that's perfect

[DeruIsLove]

You are so dumb. Go insult more people for playing on a 15 year old elf sim while you are playing the exact same game on bitch mode. Can't even call someone out with a real forum account. Hiding behind a troll account like a little bitch.

I don't play blue you moron, I forumquest at work. Nice try?

[Xerxes]

sirken, youre probably my favorite gm so far on p99. you act pretty damn professional for a volunteer, but you dont take it too far. you reinbursed my botched 41% haste belt turn in, which you really didnt have to do, but did it anyway. you made an awesome gm event where i got my title, i mean i could be biased of course since i won it but still. you came to howling stones to change my surname to match my title, which was a really nice personal touch. and you illusioned my whole group and hung out for a bit which made everyone there really happy. definitely gained some cool points with the other five people in the group.

but it wasnt always good times. you came at me pretty hard for something you thought i did, which i respected but made me freak out at the same time lol. some raid decisions youve made have made me raise an eyebrow, but at the same time i know you are trying your best to do whats right. not just involving my guild but others as well. of course im not going to agree with you 100% of the time, and you have access to more information than i do, so i cant judge based on that.

you sat through so many hours of talk between the guild officers and leaders trying to come up with a better raid scene, i was there and listened to most of it. im a pretty patient person, but i couldnt even sit through all of it, let alone all of it and be expected to make a decision based on what was said. much respect for that.

my only gripe is that you gave me frog illusion potions over a guise for winning the event! i loved that i was able to share the gift with others, but eventually it ran out of charges :(. ive heard the horror stories of past gms on this server. so im glad that you are the lead gm. i trust that you are a good person and only have whats best for the server in mind. o7

[|3igHurb]

http://www.project1999.com/forums/showpost.php?p=1548233&postcount=3

[Packet]

I grant everyone full immunity within this thread to say whatever you guys want about me (leave the rest of the staff alone).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LXiD0-Z9nsI&feature=youtu.be&t=11s

You guys banned my 59 monk a few months ago stating that I RMT'd one item when an apparent RMT-er gave me a T-Staff. This person, whom I raided with way back when on Rallos Zek was the reason why I came back to begin with. I was then told that many people said the same thing and that he "had a lot of friends". I offered you guys access to my only paypal account to show at-least some shred of evidence I am innocent but that wasn't enough. :/ Honestly, banning me after so much hard work didn't fit.

And that's what grinds my gears.

[Champion_Standing]

You guys banned my 59 monk a few months ago stating that I RMT'd one item when an apparent RMT-er gave me a T-Staff. This person, whom I raided with way back when on Rallos Zek was the reason why I came back to begin with. I was then told that many people said the same thing and that he "had a lot of friends". I offered you guys access to my only paypal account to show at-least some shred of evidence I am innocent but that wasn't enough. :/ Honestly, banning me after so much hard work didn't fit.

And that's what grinds my gears.

So many people have great friends on this server, free fungis, aons, cofs, tstaffs, you name it. It was obviously a scheme cooked up by your "friend" RMT thousands of dollars worth of gear then give it all away to get people banned.

[|3igHurb]

http://i.imgur.com/IhnInH7.gif
http://i.imgur.com/Uatlnqz.gif

[Glenzig]

I'll tell you what I really think. I really think Bighurb needs another ban after that post. Thank you.

[Gaffin 7.0]

I'll tell you what I really think. I really think Bighurb needs another ban after that post. Thank you.

[pufen]

dat .gif.....I almost tell myself that the line is drawn right before that..And I'm normally a man of no line.

[Sidelle]

http://i.imgur.com/IhnInH7.gif
http://i.imgur.com/Uatlnqz.gif

You're a sick bastard. Seek help.

[Kerafyrm]

Ok Sirken here goes. You said my name was ok when I sent you a tell two days ago. Another GM made me change my name today... No hard feelings. But I ran it by you first :(

[pharmakos]

can't believe i didn't notice this thread til now. this is great lol.

props sirken.

[|3igHurb]

http://cdn.makeagif.com/media/7-27-2014/fcLANh.gif

[Rais]

Ok Sirken here goes. You said my name was ok when I sent you a tell two days ago. Another GM made me change my name today... No hard feelings. But I ran it by you first :(

even big sirken can be overruled. Rogean lost his shit when he saw some people named Oggok and Grobb. In game names of npcs/zones is a big no no.

[Strifer]

http://i.imgur.com/IhnInH7.gif
http://i.imgur.com/Uatlnqz.gif

Late term abortions in Japan are brutal. Also how.is she going to give birth when her vaj is a bunch of pixels?

[Sirken]

can't believe i didn't notice this thread til now. this is great lol.
props sirken.

its what i do ;)

[Cymeon]

Sirken log back into red every once a fucking year brew.

[Hitpoint]

its what i do ;)

Where are you?

[Ella`Ella]

Where are you?

[Tiggles]

Where are you?

[ManosMan]

Ok Sirken here goes. You said my name was ok when I sent you a tell two days ago. Another GM made me change my name today... No hard feelings. But I ran it by you first :(
I've been here like a month. I read the naming rules, named a guy, then I got in game and saw how little the naming rules are enforced. Which is great, because clever combo/reference names can be awesome and it's not we're playing Gemstone here. Even still, yours was a name that was obviously going to be changed. I thought you might get until Velious but that was pushing it. I believe I even hailed you in game via "Hail, Velious Pending Name Change".

[Lazie]

Where are you?

Take note. New Precedence set. Train your own raid and the other guilds raid at zone in... PETITION the other guild for the train. Get the other guild suspended and loot deleted off a legit kill the other guild had. It's either a super troll by Sirken or just a breakdown of understanding EQ aggro mechanics at the most basic of levels.

[Shinko]

^ madbadsadfat

[Turp_SmokinPurp]

Take note. It's either a super troll by Sirken or just a Mental Retardation breakdown of understanding EQ aggro mechanics at the most basic of levels.

Petition Quest has resumed.

They made up the new raid rules in hopes of less work. Mostly due to the 2 head GM's being MIA more. Now you hardly see Derubael or Sirken on outside of Twitch. They implemented the new rules than just ducked out. Because it was less work at first. But re implementing petition quest is gonna set that shit back.
Welcome back. Lol.

Just fill their boxes up an wait 2 months for your ban hammer.

Bout time to re-roll GM's isn't it?
The yearly or bi yearly switch this server has had since its birth.
How did all the other switches take place. Is being MIA an excuse to push for new authority? Just some things left un touched, an I am sure others could add to the list.
We haven't had enchanter BoTB near 2 years since the mention.
2 vs 2 title tournament - Title was taken from me within 1 month, GM had a new tourny, an now its been a damned year an still they got their title they stole from me. No rematch due to GMs loss of care for the server.
Lazy fucks, like me IRL. Or just to busy to deal with EQ. Than why continue to make us suffer?
Pass the ball off if you guys are done with the server.
Seriously.

[Glenzig]

Or you know, since it isn't their actual paid job and they have actual jobs, they could just be busy. Maybe?

[Turp_SmokinPurp]

Or you know, since it isn't their actual paid job and they have actual jobs, they could just be busy. Maybe?

Or just to busy to deal with EQ. Than why continue to make us suffer?
Pass the ball off if you guys are done with the server.
Seriously.

[Turp_SmokinPurp]

Really just have not seen Sirken since.
http://i1111.photobucket.com/albums/h468/Turp420/EQEQ/EQ000134-1.png (http://s1111.photobucket.com/user/Turp420/media/EQEQ/EQ000134-1.png.html)
an the good days of Boat quest an stuff like this.
Just feels like everything was halted after new raid rules was implemented.
Not counting Velious and thank you for the work over there. An the work you do behind the scenes here Sirken/Derubael. But would love to see a return of some fun too.
http://i1111.photobucket.com/albums/h468/Turp420/EQEQ/EQ000176.png (http://s1111.photobucket.com/user/Turp420/media/EQEQ/EQ000176.png.html)

[Gaffin 7.0]

that was fun event i dueled Derub and he got rekt

[Shinko]

Mondays 9pm EST - Sirken's SuperCast

i think he not going to be streaming today

[Eunomia]

a damned year an still they got their title they stole from me.

At least you make it clear where your hurt stems from.

Pass the ball off if you guys are done with the server.


I can understand why you are getting ignored, but I talk to them every single day. You thinking this server doesn't require the constant attention of this small staff is pretty funny from this point of view.


We haven't had enchanter BoTB near 2 years since the mention.

The BoTB is a guide run event. I was asked to do it. I don't want to. I have plenty of other stuff to keep me busy. Maybe Aussie will be interested. If I ever get time, I would like to organize other types of events, but they won't involve PvP on a PvE server.

[Hitpoint]

I can understand why you are getting ignored, but I talk to them every single day. You thinking this server doesn't require the constant attention of this small staff is pretty funny from this point of view.


When you talk to Rogean, Sirken, or Derubael today, please let them know that we've been searching for them for days. And we require 5 minutes of their time. They know what it's about. Thank you.

[Shinko]

is this about the BDA training Juggs on NG camp? HP?

[Hitpoint]

is this about the BDA training Juggs on NG camp? HP?

Obviously.

[arsenalpow]

is this about the BDA training Juggs on NG camp? HP?

No you're dumb

[Turp_SmokinPurp]

At least you make it clear where your hurt stems from.



I can understand why you are getting ignored, but I talk to them every single day. You thinking this server doesn't require the constant attention of this small staff is pretty funny from this point of view.



The BoTB is a guide run event. I was asked to do it. I don't want to. I have plenty of other stuff to keep me busy. Maybe Aussie will be interested. If I ever get time, I would like to organize other types of events, but they won't involve PvP on a PvE server.

That is just some hurt. The fun events are missed too.
This it is the first rant or slander I have had and was never ignored before. Still friends on Skype. Have been in twitch stream with Sirken when he first started up and also talked a bunch an was friend with Derubael. They use to be more present in game. An more friendly. After the raid rules they went dark or ignored me personally.
An you can see why they did this? I never have said anything until today so ...
Please tell me, why?

BoTB Guide ran event? I never heard that. I just figured it was Sirken/Derubael ran like the last ones. With Rogean or whoever present.
So you deny to run it? I don't care but the enchanters probably do.

This was nothing at the staff. But @ Sirken. The plurals was a mistype in my OP. Before you start a witch hunt up over nothing.


Eunomia glad to hear you may be doing some events with your powers.
Since this is RNF may I suggest you help with this? I am poor, have donated a ton to the noobs of norrath. Maybe we could get some illusion potions or something donated to this. http://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=157313
Thanks.

[Turp_SmokinPurp]

You thinking this server doesn't require the constant attention of this small staff is pretty funny from this point of view.
Point of view , if read.

Really just have not seen Sirken since.
an the good days of Boat quest an stuff like this.
Just feels like everything was halted after new raid rules was implemented.
Not counting Velious and thank you for the work over there. An the work you do behind the scenes here Sirken/Derubael. But would love to see a return of some fun too.

[Frieza_Prexus]

Well guys, it's your turn.

The process for handling raid disputes is too complicated, and it undoubtedly leaves the staff exhausted and the players frustrated. The complicated he said she said is visibly wearing on the staff.

I believe that this is due to a fundamental lack of simple procedure.

Almost any raid dispute can be summed up in 3-5 sentences, and any petitions should include ALL of the relevant argument for the complainant's side with a limit of 2 pages of text not counting logs & fraps as appendicies. The officers petitioning disputes are grownups and it should be assumed that they can gather all of the necessary facts when presenting their case the first time. The accused party is then given a copy of the petition and given a reasonable amount of time to mount a defense with the same format as the complainant.

Raid dispute petitions should follow these procedures:

1) Petitioning guild submits a complaint via the petition forum
A) A 3-5 sentence summary
B) Two pages MAX of argument/counter argument
B) Appendices of logs and fraps (unedited by highlighted for ease of reading & convenience.)

2) Accused guild is given/allowed to view the submitted petition & evidence
A) Accused guild submits a defense in the same format as the complaint

3) GM reviews all evidence in the submitted complaints & engages in additional fact finding in the server logs as necessary and requests additional evidence if necessary
A) GM's should rarely need to request additional evidence as guild officers should be smart enough to present all relevant evidence. Evidence omitted by neglect will not be considered without reasonable excuse.

4) GM issues a ruling.
A) Rulings may be appealed in the same format as the original complaint
B) Appeals are owed NO response, and are heard strictly at the discretion of the senior GM staff

5) If two parties can reach mutual agreement, GM intervention will be deemed unnecessary and the petition dismissed.
A)Frivolous or abusive petitions/appeals will result in punishment for the abusers
B) If an accused guild admits wrong doing and presents no defense, that admission will be considered favorably when determining punishment

We've all had enough of the he said she said petition quest back and forth. Everyone gets a chance to make their case, and once ALL the argument is done, the GMs the step in and make a call. This is simple, efficient, and prevents the constant PM telephone tag that accompanies these situations.

[Strifer]

At least you make it clear where your hurt stems from.



I can understand why you are getting ignored, but I talk to them every single day. You thinking this server doesn't require the constant attention of this small staff is pretty funny from this point of view.



The BoTB is a guide run event. I was asked to do it. I don't want to. I have plenty of other stuff to keep me busy. Maybe Aussie will be interested. If I ever get time, I would like to organize other types of events, but they won't involve PvP on a PvE server.

I would run the BotB

#Strifer4guide2014

[Portasaurus]

Just put me in charge of everything. This box will enter a Golden Age like you have never seen before.

All raid disputes will be handled via bake-off.

All petitions will be handled via bake-off.

All ties will be broken via hot sauce competitions.

Ties of hot sauce competitions will be broken via pie-eating contests.

Ties are not allowed in pie-eating contests and extra time will be granted as necessary to determine a winner.

Greengrocer for GM '14

[ManosMan]

raid disputes

Raid disputes > aids > instances

[iruinedyourday]

Just put me in charge of everything. This box will enter a Golden Age like you have never seen before.

All raid disputes will be handled via bake-off.

All petitions will be handled via bake-off.

All ties will be broken via hot sauce competitions.

Ties of hot sauce competitions will be broken via pie-eating contests.

Ties are not allowed in pie-eating contests and extra time will be granted as necessary to determine a winner.

Greengrocer for GM '14

+1

[zanderklocke]

...any petitions should include ALL of the relevant argument for the complainant's side with a limit of 2 pages of text not counting logs & fraps as appendicies.

Yikes! Two pages of text seems like a long read; is this double spaced?

[arsenalpow]

Tbh Xasten makes a good point. How many times has the law of the land changed? How many times were the slates just wiped clean? There needs to be a clear and transparent system for resolving raid disputes and it needs to be consistent. I think that's something that the staff has been working on but I could probably rattle off a dozen instances of conflict and a dozen different rulings going back a few years.

[Dragonsblood1987]

hey fatty, why did TMO only get suspended from VP? you trying to keep that RMT cash flow going?

[Ella`Ella]

But yet we're still posting in off-topic.

[Frieza_Prexus]

Yikes! Two pages of text seems like a long read; is this double spaced?

I know it's RnF, but the server really needs to have this discussion.

I know the GMs are just as frustrated as the players sorting through mounds of PMs and logs and a whole bunch of other garbage that makes them not want to log in anymore. In the end, no one is happy and everything is miserable.

I remember when Amelinda was making ad hoc rulings in VP a few years ago, and TMO submitted a "brief" to her that was anything but. We had this massive bloated discussion that ran all over the place. Everything just devolved into a "he said she said"/"am not are too" fight. We can solve this problem with strict standards. The GMs want us to petition ONLY if there's no other way to resolve the issue. If that's what they want then the rules and procedures need to encourage this. We can't just rely on a GM saying "now you guys behave, and only get mommy if someone is bleeding or loses an eye." The players just can't be trusted without the rules forcing them to do so.

Simple rules of procedure will make the petition process operate more smoothly, it will ease tensions, and, most importantly, the public & precedential nature of the decisions will help cement expectations regarding how this server is run.

[Sirken]

Bout time to re-roll GM's isn't it?
The yearly or bi yearly switch this server has had since its birth.
How did all the other switches take place. Is being MIA an excuse to push for new authority? Just some things left un touched, an I am sure others could add to the list.
Pass the ball off if you guys are done with the server.
Seriously.
i tried to quit once back when Ephi was on staff. But Rogean said no.

[arsenalpow]

I said I'd do some staff stuff provided I don't have to go into witness protection to do so.

[Glenzig]

I said I'd do some staff stuff provided I don't have to go into witness protection to do so.

You should handle raid disputes.

[arsenalpow]

You should handle raid disputes.

I totes should. Ask any of the class R guild leadership.

[SyanideGas]

totes

[ManosMan]

(You should probably work on your own guild first)

[arsenalpow]

(You should probably work on your own guild first)

Thanks for the tip random new person has said nothing but hateful shit about BDA. I'll add that opinion to the round file.

[ManosMan]

I'd probably get some sort of raid attendance/dkp infrastructure up before I started offering to do staff work...

[arsenalpow]

I'd probably get some sort of raid attendance/dkp infrastructure up before I started offering to do staff work...

I heard there were other ways of doing loot, could be wrong though.

[Ella`Ella]

i tried to quit once back when Ephi was on staff. But Rogean said no.

Put me on staff. I'll deliver justice like the Hand of God without discrimination.

[Portasaurus]

Put me on staff. I'll deliver justice like the Hand of God without discrimination.

Unbrella confirmed good at delivering things

[thieros]

Unbrella confirmed good at delivering things

obvious sea dragon meat buy off is obvious. the dial a port conspiracy runs deep

[Ella`Ella]

Unbrella confirmed good at delivering things

"Some day, and that day may never come, I will call upon you to do a service for me. But until that day, consider this gift a justice."

[Dragonsblood1987]

i tried to quit once back when Ephi was on staff. But Rogean said no.

kinda sounds like hes your boss and this isnt just pro bono work youre doing

[Sirken]

kinda sounds like hes your boss and this isnt just pro bono work youre doing

no, its much worse. he has incriminating photos.

[Clark]

I'd like to see more of GMs invis stalking FFA world spawns and VP when they're online. So its not all about frapsquest.

[Dragonsblood1987]

no, its much worse. he has incriminating photos.

confirmed RMT pls ban, rogean

[Sirken]

I'd like to see more of GMs invis stalking FFA world spawns and VP when they're online. So its not all about frapsquest.

i saw dragons die today

[LulzSect]

http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m8hbkusEKP1qgxd6w.jpg

[pharmakos]

I'd like to see more of GMs invis stalking FFA world spawns and VP when they're online. So its not all about frapsquest.

that actually happens pretty often

[Packet]

So many people have great friends on this server, free fungis, aons, cofs, tstaffs, you name it. It was obviously a scheme cooked up by your "friend" RMT thousands of dollars worth of gear then give it all away to get people banned.

I have no doubt that they were involved with RMT however, I was entirely unaware of that fact. I'm so broke that Unfortunately for me, he's the reason why I was banned... It's sad because I really was (atleast I considered myself to be) a contributing member to the community.

[Packet]

I derped on that post. I meant to say that I'm too broke to spend money on games, hence why I play emu. :p

[Dragonsblood1987]

oh shit did jeremy send you?

[talian21]

Thanks for the tip random new person has said nothing but hateful shit about BDA. I'll add that opinion to the round file.

No, he's right; there are a lot of good members of BDA, but dealing with you guys in charge is like trying to reason with a cranky 6 year old who missed nap time. The best of your ppl have left to make another guild, not once, but twice now, both times b/c of the leadership. So, to re-quote:

(You should probably work on your own guild first)

and by that, I mean curb the overly entitled chest-thumping buffoonery that is the hallmark of the guild leadership, both father, and son.

[talian21]

Ok, since I read 5-6 pages in and saw nothing but people collectively stroking off Sirken, I'll actually chime in with something critical.

As Rogean and Nilbog have gotten less and less hand on in terms of enforcing rules and passing judgement on infractions, Sirken has become the de facto senior official who deals with player complaints. Sirken is also a former member of TMO, a guild central to many of those complaints. Sirken's play character was also banned in the SEQ purge.

Essentially I see Sirken being a GM as no different than someone like myself of Jeremy being made GMs, which I'm sure people would be up in arms about. Hell, let's get Modus and Abacab back here to run the show while we're at it.

We've got a box where the identities of GMs is kept secret from the player base, and simply questioning the GMs can result in punitive action. However, those same GMs who we're expected to hold above reproach have also included people like Amelinda who we very blatantly corrupt. Or Cyrius who very blatantly favored certain guilds. Their rackets were able to continue for months because anyone who was even remotely critical of them was punished. There seems to be zero oversight, especially for someone at Sirken's level.

When information like this has been posted in the past it has been deleted and the players who posted it banned.

As far as I'm concerned, the only person on this box who seems to be consistently fair is Nilbog, and that is because he doesn't get involved in all the player drama. Its too bad he doesn't care enough to be bothered with player questions/concerns anymore, because the people he's entrusted with the keys to the castle in the past few years have been suspect at best.

All that said, this is without a doubt the best box out there and even with the shady history of GMs I'd rather play here than any where else. I just think it is ridiculous that someone with a history not so different than my own is basically judge, jury and executioner with minimal, if any oversight.

Best post of the year. Though every post like this I have ever seen, has disappeared within a day. Lets see how this one goes...

[Jib]

everytime a blue player complains, give him a one week suspension on blue. Then give him 100 pp on red.

[GnashingOfTeeth]

PPL missing out, Sirken has a place for you to see no shits given, its a thing.
Watch.

http://www.twitch.tv/sirikenp99

[Herp]

How to GM 101:

If they call you bias in any way, play the tinfoil hat card. Call them conspiracy theorists and tinfoil hat wearers to silence them!

What GM hasn't used this in the last 30 days?

[Alarti0001]

i saw dragons die today

Yet you couldn't be around to review a bad call you made. Priorities !

[Portsche]

Thanks for making a shitty fucking call and then ghosting for 4+ days and not talking to us like you said you would.

Have a nice day!

[Heebo]

Umps blow calls. Just part of the game.

[Waedawen]

Umps blow calls. Just part of the game.

Gonna bring it back to '06 and say "Quoted for the Truth"

[Socratic]

Sirken when you make a mess be a man and clean it up. Don't run away and hide like a little boy.

[abacab-101]

Sirken, why do you persecute lord Abacab so intently?

[iruinedyourday]

I could be way off base here, because i really dont know what it is you guys do besides what you stream. But class C seems to be a bit of a time sink :)

I would like to see more fun stuff for the 0-50 'casuals', like GM events, raids of mobs on newbie areas. Something like castle mistmoore staging an attack with their ally the Orc's of crush bone. Wave after wave of elves form the north poring onto the two cities, killing the guards while piles of orcs at the lifts allow them to climb up and mercilessly slay the merchants of kelthin.

Or Ice giants spawning in Hallas and just laying waste to the town, holding control of it until players came to kill like I dono like 500 of em.

Class C are people too, but I think that they are given too much attention. Sorry if I am way off base here, I am only suggesting that IF class C stuff causes a time sink for the staff, they should just let class C deal with their secret land of veeshans peak on their own.

/duck

[Vyal]

Have not seen a GM event since I left before Kunark came out.

[Dragonsblood1987]

Have not seen a GM event since I left before Kunark came out.

They sort of cut off events and double xp after that huge wave of bans concerning duping and rmt. Thanks Obama.

[captnamazing]

I could be way off base here, because i really dont know what it is you guys do besides what you stream. But class C seems to be a bit of a time sink :)

I would like to see more fun stuff for the 0-50 'casuals', like GM events, raids of mobs on newbie areas. Something like castle mistmoore staging an attack with their ally the Orc's of crush bone. Wave after wave of elves form the north poring onto the two cities, killing the guards while piles of orcs at the lifts allow them to climb up and mercilessly slay the merchants of kelthin.

Or Ice giants spawning in Hallas and just laying waste to the town, holding control of it until players came to kill like I dono like 500 of em.

Class C are people too, but I think that they are given too much attention. Sorry if I am way off base here, I am only suggesting that IF class C stuff causes a time sink for the staff, they should just let class C deal with their secret land of veeshans peak on their own.

/duck

I agree completely
More fun RP events
let the Filbus Vision Immersion begin

[Socratic]

When a guild is suspended because their competition trained themselves then basically staff is creating a situation from nothing.

If staff weren't so clueless the attention required would be much less.

Also a lot of Class C would be quite happy going back to no CSR in VP.

[Susano]

It's clear that your primary focus is streaming and youtube. I'd say step down from being a GM, but I realize it satiates your desire for attention and also drums up more traffic for those two venues than you'd ever get without the title.

[pufen]

Damn...shots fired

[Bazia]

1 round of vp guys its going to be alright

[Sckrilla]

No, fuck you Bazia. I want moar pixels NAOW!

[Socratic]

I couldn't care less about the dragons or their loot. The problem is that competition becomes pointless when ignorant staff makes decisions based on false information and refuse to remedy their error.

Seriously, if my competition can kill themselves like idiots and petition to get my guild suspended then what the fuck is the point of competing here at all? I've seen bad calls before, but they have always been fixed before, as a result of further communication and clarification. This simply cannot stand if you expect anyone to play here with the expectation that their efforts will not be undermined by malicious behavior and ignorant staff.

[HeallunRumblebelly]

1 round of vp guys its going to be alright

http://www.whoateallthepies.tv/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/injustica.gif

[Bazia]

I couldn't care less about the dragons or their loot.

lie

1 round of vp out of like 200 in the past couple years

gonna be ok

[Hitpoint]

Sirken I'd like consistency in rulings and consistency in punishments. A written formula, posted in the raid discussion section, that can be used to figure out exactly what punishment is meted out if an infringement goes to petitions. I think it would help both the players and the staff. If more problems arise, more can be added to it, etc.

[Bazia]

alot of tears about 1 vp round disguised as "lack of clear rules"

"Well now people are gonna do this all the time" ur complaining about something isnt happening (that this happens suspensions are handed out for this train situation often)

[Lazie]

lie

1 round of vp out of like 200 in the past couple years

gonna be ok

Again I don't mind a week off. It's the precedent this weird ruling makes.

[Bazia]

holy shit broken ass engrish

damn u andriod

[Bazia]

Again I don't mind a week off. It's the precedent this weird ruling makes.

yaw sure

[Lazie]

yaw sure

:rolleyes:

[iruinedyourday]

what the fuck is the point of competing here at all?

lmao jk.

but seriously..

[Socratic]

The implications of a ruling that requires a competing guild to keep another guild's pull clean are simply unreasonable.

I get that most of you are idiots that troll rnf without actually thinking, but damn, this should be obvious.

[Oleris]

you seem like a cool person. I wish you streamed more while you handled petitions.

[ManosMan]

https://encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcR5NhoxCyB3NJRqv1VWF2Xg52PgQB8SP XjnU6oEnl3isEJkTWn4qw
Umadbro?

[Ele]

What really amuses someone like me is that there's still this many of you retards who haven't figured out yet that this place is dirty as fuck and has been for years now.

You can't be this fucking dumb. You just can't.

-Harrison

We all know about the NBA, but what about P99?

[falkun]

Sirken I'd like consistency in rulings and consistency in punishments. A written formula, posted in the raid discussion section, that can be used to figure out exactly what punishment is meted out if an infringement goes to petitions. I think it would help both the players and the staff. If more problems arise, more can be added to it, etc.
Yes please.
So why was AG's all-raid suspension while TMO's is VP only?

[DeruIsLove]

Sirken I'd like consistency in rulings and consistency in punishments. A written formula, posted in the raid discussion section, that can be used to figure out exactly what punishment is meted out if an infringement goes to petitions. I think it would help both the players and the staff. If more problems arise, more can be added to it, etc.

I love posts like these.

It's like they don't realize that that's exactly what the staff has been trying to do while you neckbeards do everything possible to bend the rules without breaking them or find a loophole here or there.

The fucking founding fathers wouldn't be able to write documentation air tight enough that you guys wouldn't take advantage of in some fashion.

[Hitpoint]

I love posts like these.

It's like they don't realize that that's exactly what the staff has been trying to do while you neckbeards do everything possible to bend the rules without breaking them or find a loophole here or there.

The fucking founding fathers wouldn't be able to write documentation air tight enough that you guys wouldn't take advantage of in some fashion.

So just because something can still be exploited in some minor way, we shouldn't try to constantly improve it?

[Rhambuk]

So just because something can still be exploited in some minor way, we shouldn't try to constantly improve it?

I don't think we have the staffing to constantly be making minor tweaks to a raid rule system because there are 200players trying nonstop to find a weakness in the wording.

[Glenzig]

So just because something can still be exploited in some minor way, we shouldn't try to constantly improve it?

Or people could stop exploiting it. But that ain't happening.

[Hitpoint]

Or people could stop exploiting it. But that ain't happening.

And it never will.

[Rhambuk]

if only theyd get banned for it then maybe

[Hitpoint]

if only theyd get banned for it then maybe

People will always try to get an advantage over their competition. If it wasn't TMO and IB then two other guilds would take their place. When the envelope gets pushed too far those people are "exploiting" but they are really just playing the game.

[Rhambuk]

just playing the game?

using exploits and circumventing encounters/content is pretty far from just playing the game.

[Hitpoint]

just playing the game?

using exploits and circumventing encounters/content is pretty far from just playing the game.

Nobody is using exploits. Maybe I misunderstood you. By exploiting, I meant taking advantage of rules that are in place. For instance, GMs want races to mobs, they forbid binding at mobs, but they don't explicitly forbid Cothing to them. So Taken sets up coth mages at Talendor. Now every guild has to do the same thing for FFA mobs. (TMO and IB agreed not to for class C mobs.) So that's a loophole that they found, and exploited. One that was not intended, and may or may not be fixed in the future.

[Strifer]

Never mind the very obvious and proven track record of the "staffing" being blatantly corrupt as fuck, too.

It doesn't matter if the rules are ironclad. The "CS" staff need to go. How many instances of disgustingly obvious corruption do you toothless retards need to get the point?

Harrison please post more, more people need to hear your gospel.

[Daldolma]

could fix end-game in a week. perma-ban all accounts associated with an IP for any form of faggotry

you FTE'd by mashing javs for 8 hours uninterrupted? bant. you sent me 47 minutes of fraps that showed nothing? bant. you've farmed 32 ragefires in the past month? bant. you are catherin? bant.

[HeallunRumblebelly]

could fix end-game in a week. perma-ban all accounts associated with an IP for any form of faggotry

you FTE'd by mashing javs for 8 hours uninterrupted? bant. you sent me 47 minutes of fraps that showed nothing? bant. you've farmed 32 ragefires in the past month? bant. you are catherin? bant.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ex_post_facto_law

[Daldolma]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ex_post_facto_law

you're playing an elf simulator and citing principles of law in latin

perfect example of the type of faggotry that would get you bant

[Ele]

you're playing an elf simulator and citing principles of law in latin

perfect example of the type of faggotry that would get you bant

I know right? Should be in High Elvish or Drow.

[Champion_Standing]

This thread is tearing the community apart

[Derubael]

Sirken I'd like consistency in rulings and consistency in punishments. A written formula, posted in the raid discussion section, that can be used to figure out exactly what punishment is meted out if an infringement goes to petitions. I think it would help both the players and the staff. If more problems arise, more can be added to it, etc.

As we've explained in the past, punishments will never be listed in a "do this... this happens" format because every situation is different and will be handled as such. This isn't something that's going to change. In response to Falkun's query, there were a number of factors that went into TMO taking a few days off in VP as opposed to a full on suspension. Part of this is due to the discussion the two guilds had prior to the punishment being handed out.

I will point out, however, that way back at the end of 2013 I asked FE, TMO, and IB to draft up a set of "raid rules" that we could post for all to see. So far I've only received a list from 2 people, and they explicitly stated that their draft of the raid rules was their representation only and did not have the approval of their guilds' leadership. I still welcome someone to draft up a list of raid rules for everyone to be able to reference, feel free to include a loose outline of what punishments are given for what if you'd like.

could fix end-game in a week. perma-ban all accounts associated with an IP for any form of faggotry

you FTE'd by mashing javs for 8 hours uninterrupted? bant. you sent me 47 minutes of fraps that showed nothing? bant. you've farmed 32 ragefires in the past month? bant. you are catherin? bant.

I approve this system. I think it should be implemented immediately.

*edit* We'll take out the part about Catherin. We aren't going to discriminate against individual players. Unless they perform faggotry.

[Brynnag]

Everyone who takes this vidya game so seriously that they need to form a united nations in pixel form to decide who gets what and when should prob stop playing and hang themselves.

[mtb tripper]

Everyone who takes this vidya game so seriously that they need to form a united nations in pixel form to decide who gets what and when should prob stop playing and hang themselves.

idk who you are either but you need to go to the local gas station and buy a newspaper. Don't go home and read it though, read it in front of the gas station.

[Messianic]

Sirken confirmed badass, feared by neckbearded cave dwelling RMTers and forum trolls alike

[Visual]

*edit* We'll take out the part about Catherin. We aren't going to discriminate against individual players. Unless they perform faggotry.

We have lost far more players from the new DLL changes due to catherin's shenanigans than, say, a player who duped some silver amber quartz rings.

Yet this demented freak is getting his account restored while these lessor offenders are not granted the same privilege? Care to explain? Forgive me if I am misinformed but according to a gentleman named derubael,

"Use of any third-party programs will be detected and will result in the permanent banning of your account(s). No exceptions will be made, and once a ban has been enacted for violation of this rule it will not be reversed."

Source:
http://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=132299

[TMBLOW]

We have lost far more players from the new DLL changes due to catherin's shenanigans than, say, a player who duped some silver amber quartz rings.



wut?

[Eponymous Anonymous]

You guys should really see a doctor about your constant hard-on over Catherin. I hear it causes blackouts and stuff.

[Tiggles]

Ban Catherin

[Kekephee]

this demented freak


damn hahahaha

[Eponymous Anonymous]

We have lost far more players from the new DLL changes due to catherin's shenanigans than, say, a player who duped some silver amber quartz rings.

You really think it's due to some DLL and not due to you guys acting like giant shitbags? Ooohhhkaayy...

[Derubael]

We have lost far more players from the new DLL changes due to catherin's shenanigans than, say, a player who duped some silver amber quartz rings.

Yet this demented freak is getting his account restored while these lessor offenders are not granted the same privilege? Care to explain? Forgive me if I am misinformed but according to a gentleman named derubael,

"Use of any third-party programs will be detected and will result in the permanent banning of your account(s). No exceptions will be made, and once a ban has been enacted for violation of this rule it will not be reversed."

Source:
http://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=132299

wat?

[Sirken]

wat?

i can help here.

hes under the impression that 3rd party programs were being used, and he's also under the impression that the player was either banned for 3rd party programs, and that the ban was reversed. because, well, i dunno tbh. assuming is fun?

[Derubael]

i can help here.

hes under the impression that 3rd party programs were being used, and he's also under the impression that the player was either banned for 3rd party programs, and that the ban was reversed. because, well, i dunno tbh. assuming is fun?

wat?

[Tiggles]

wat?

http://www.xdtalk.com/forums/attachments/xdtalk-chatter-box/27749d1399960047-apple-helping-hide-police-wrong-doings-wat.png

[Sirken]

wat?

exactly

[Tiggles]

exactly

To be honest, it was me who made the post claiming he was banned for 3rd party and had the ban reversed because he ratted out fellow taken members. This causes a good among of taken members to disband.

[Derubael]

To be honest, it was me who made the post claiming he was banned for 3rd party and had the ban reversed because he ratted out fellow taken members. This causes a good among of taken members to disband.

How is it that there are still people who read the forums and don't get you?

[Tiggles]

How is it that there are still people who read the forums and don't get you?

What do you mean?

I speak the truth, always have always will.

Don't try and drag me down with your shady GM dealings.

[Rais]

Enough of this dumb stuff, help me with my dumb stuff Deru!

[Derubael]

What do you mean?

I speak the truth, always have always will.

Don't try and drag me down with your shady GM dealings.

Thx for your honesty, Tiggles Hannity. Is Bill O`Larti on next or is it gonna be that blonde chick who pretends she's dumb but walks around with 2 PhD's and used to teach law at Harvard?

[Derubael]

Enough of this dumb stuff, help me with my dumb stuff Deru!

I keep forgetting, try to bug me about it this weekend.

[Tiggles]

Thx for your honesty, Tiggles Hannity. Is Bill O`Larti on next or is it gonna be that blonde chick who pretends she's dumb but walks around with 2 PhD's and used to teach law at Harvard?

You talking about my girl Ann Coulter? I love her, she is everything I want to be on the forums.

No one ever gets the joke =/

[Azure]

No

[Hitpoint]

I will point out, however, that way back at the end of 2013 I asked FE, TMO, and IB to draft up a set of "raid rules" that we could post for all to see. So far I've only received a list from 2 people, and they explicitly stated that their draft of the raid rules was their representation only and did not have the approval of their guilds' leadership. I still welcome someone to draft up a list of raid rules for everyone to be able to reference, feel free to include a loose outline of what punishments are given for what if you'd like.


Okay cool, thanks for the response. Maybe I'll work on something like this when I'm feeling motivated. The hard part seems like it would be getting other guilds to agree though.

[Ella`Ella]

Okay cool, thanks for the response. Maybe I'll work on something like this when I'm feeling motivated. The hard part seems like it would be getting other guilds to agree though.

I started this with Sloan a while ago. I can sum this up pretty easily - full Non-CSR/PnP in VP as this is the root of all our problems and doesn't effect class -R.

[TMBLOW]

I started this with Sloan a while ago. I can sum this up pretty easily - full Non-CSR/PnP in VP as this is the root of all our problems and doesn't effect class -R.

I can translate this pretty easily:

TMO wants the barrier for entry to VP to be unobtainable for any guilds not named TMO

[Alarti0001]

I can translate this pretty easily:

TMO wants the barrier for entry to VP to be unobtainable for any guilds not named TMO

So you are saying TMO is better than everyone else? I can go with that

[Lazie]

I started this with Sloan a while ago. I can sum this up pretty easily - full Non-CSR/PnP in VP as this is the root of all our problems and doesn't effect class -R.

I hate to say it but it's probably the best idea. At least then one guild can't petition another when they fuck up and get rewarded for being bad.

[Ella`Ella]

never under estimate the power of "one guild"

Are you saying what I think you're saying?

[Lazie]

never underestimate the power of "one guild"

First you botch a call and blame an obvious IB train on us. Now the english language. To be fair though I botch the english language sometimes too. See how easy a mistake can be fixed ? :p

[Oleris]

never under estimate the power of "one guild"

or one individual.

[Pokesan]

Everyone who takes this vidya game so seriously that they need to form a united nations in pixel form to decide who gets what and when should prob stop playing and hang themselves.