Elderan

[lite]

http://cdn.memegenerator.net/instances/500x/52603812.jpg

[Elderan]

http://i.imgur.com/sp0GHxG.jpg

[lite]

are you implying RMT ? only thing sektors got from Azrael was rotting VP weps :P

Sorry Azrael isn't ran as seriously, since the guild leader is not incentivised by the desire for additional computer parts and supposed "40" dollar green scale sales.

anyone able to pull up that quote of Elderan recruiting for Nihilum as the "only non RMT" guild , while shipping Nizzar computer parts and getting an AoN a week later.

[Nirgon]

http://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=157965&page=2

enjoy your ban you RMT software testing FELON

[Mac Drettj]

Isn't ran as seriously

Makes 5 threads a day crying about variance and how his guild has no chance/lost after 30 reincarnations

[Nirgon]

hay retti

way to call out people trying to destroy classic eq experience

[lite]

variance accommodates to guilds that want to be able to operate with just friends and not tag everything that comes into line of sight. No shame in it, without variance it's a numbers game as Checkraise and Kergan have stated numerous times. No fun for us.

[Elderan]

are you implying RMT ? only thing sektors got from Azrael was rotting VP weps :P

Sorry Azrael isn't ran as seriously, since the guild leader is not incentivised by the desire for additional computer parts and supposed "40" dollar green scale sales.

anyone able to pull up that quote of Elderan recruiting for Nihilum as the "only non RMT" guild , while shipping Nizzar computer parts and getting an AoN a week later.

I made no such reference to RMT. But interesting you jumped to that.

Also I was 350 dkp higher than the next person for the aon.

[Mac Drettj]

Isn't ran as seriously

Makes 5 threads a day crying about variance and how his guild has no chance/lost after 30 reincarnations

...2 posts later...

variance accommodates to guilds that want to be able to operate with just friends and not tag everything that comes into line of sight. No shame in it, without variance it's a numbers game as Checkraise and Kergan have stated numerous times. No fun for us.

[lite]

I made no such reference to RMT. But interesting you jumped to that.

Also I was 350 dkp higher than the next person for the aon.

Why did you advertise Nihilum as a non RMT guild when Nizzar RMT's and you were sending him products in real life ?

[Nirgon]

How fast you think people would PL you up if you got banned Lite?

And zee Duke?

Dats called loyal followers.

Pras Fullard prasing the Duke all got damn night long.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TerQg7IL0j0&feature=youtu.be

[Mac Drettj]

Mad loser of hobbitquest

[Elderan]

Why did you advertise Nihilum as a non RMT guild when Nizzar RMT's and you were sending him products in real life ?

Seriously dude if you think I have ever gotten anything out of line with my DKP position you are delusional and just grasping at straws.

There is not a single item I have gotten over someone else with higher dkp.

[lite]

answer the question

[LostCause]

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[heartbrand]

HOLY FUCK IMMERSION

[Jib]

HOLY FUCK IMMERSION

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[Eslade]

How fast you think people would PL you up if you got banned Lite?

And zee Duke?

Dats called loyal followers.

Pras Fullard prasing the Duke all got damn night long.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TerQg7IL0j0&feature=youtu.be

I'd pl lite, why not.

[LostCause]

ze master of da peeeveepeeeee

[Cheesypoof]

How fast you think people would PL you up if you got banned Lite?

And zee Duke?

Dats called loyal followers.

Pras Fullard prasing the Duke all got damn night long.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TerQg7IL0j0&feature=youtu.be

I dont think Lite has to worry about being banned and needing a plvl because he doesn't RMT

[bigeasy]

Real reason lite running azrael is because he was able to sneak a few crowns on his toons shocker there why run a guild for the benefit of others right lite

[GradnerLives]

variance accommodates to guilds that want to be able to operate with just friends and not tag everything that comes into line of sight. No shame in it, without variance it's a numbers game as Checkraise and Kergan have stated numerous times. No fun for us.

EQ without variance is a numbers game. EQ with variance is a numbers game.
EQ is a numbers game.

Show proof otherwise.

You can start by looking on blue. I hear variance really broke up the monopolies over there just like you're suggesting. It's not like they had to forcefully create a 2 tiered system and raid rotation in order to stop TMO roflstomping everyone for 2 years straight, right?

[Kergan]

variance accommodates to guilds that want to be able to operate with just friends and not tag everything that comes into line of sight. No shame in it, without variance it's a numbers game as Checkraise and Kergan have stated numerous times. No fun for us.

I'm going against my troll nature for one moment to respond to this honestly.

EQ was, is and always be a numbers game. The game was built in a way that allowed people to stream roll content with 10 times the numbers the raid encounter was designed around. Gear is literally the only meaningful differentiating factor in EQ character development. The only other options you get are a handful of face choices, what race you pick and where you enter your extra 30 stat points at character creation. We don't even have armor dyes in this era.

For the first 4 expansions, the live team pretty much went with the idea. Raid targets began to scale upwards in difficulty at an exponential scale. They quite literally embraced the zerg mentality and not only made it the "ez mode" but REQUIRED to progress at the end game. But that type of content development could not continue forever, and facing declining server populations they began adding instanced content with raid caps in Planes of Power.

You simply can't do the end game in EQ in the Velious era without the zerg. The content in Velious was designed around the assumption you'd be hitting it with 50+ people and adjusted accordingly. We have the benefit of knowing exactly what is going to happen, and your idea of 15 pals getting together to raid and hang out will not work to get the top tier of loot in Velious.

So truthfully, you want to know why Nihilum stays on top and why it will always stay on top? Because nobody wants to leave the guild and risk missing out on end game Velious raiding. Combining all the factors I've outlined (gear only means of progression, need for huge raiding numbers, etc) with the current server population and you have a recipe for what is happening right now. We could probably sustain a 2nd big guild on R99 if all the lower level people in Hokuten stick around and that guild is able to stave off hemorrhaging their top players to Nihilum. But you're also fighting human nature...the desire to take the path of least resistance to what you ultimately want.

I realize not everyone plays the game to kill AoW/Phara Dar, whatever. But you're in the very small minority. If you want to do nothing but PVP why even have a guild at all? Why even raid at all? Why care about variance or what is happening in the raiding scene? Just go PVP and enjoy the fact that you have tons of targets to kill. Plenty of people do that now, like 90% of the top 20 of the leaderboard.

Variance does absolutely nothing to change the future of this server even if it works exactly like you say it will (which for the record, I do not believe it will). Nihilum or whatever the top guild is still going to lock down the top content, how long do you think a level 60 neckbeard in Hokuten is going to enjoy killing Fay or Talendor for nothing they can use with an almost non-existent chance at killing a mob they actually get an upgrade from? They'll eventually either quit out of boredom or app to the top guild to see the top content/gear. All your variance plan would do if successful is get a handful of people some gear before they join the uberguild (or quit), where they would have got the same gear 10x easier and months before.

The ONLY way this changes is if a guild can challenge Nihilum directly. This means engaging them in PVP, defeating them, and taking the top raid targets. It's not like that hasn't happened before. The only difference is Nihilum keeps humming along and every other comparable force has proven to be a flash in the pan for various reasons not worth discussing.

You make a lot of posts on how much you hate the way this server is Lite. You seem to care about the server and EQ in general or you'd have been gone a long time ago. For once, try to think of changes that will have a meaningful impact for the better, and not just the same anti-Nihilum stuff that is ignored by the players and staff alike. We get it, you hate us. You think we ruined R99. Everyone who has ever played on this server or read these forums knows this already.

You want this server to change for the better? Then start doing something to help it change for the better.

[Kergan]

in b4 Colgate TLDR

[heartbrand]

gr8 post

[lite]

TLDR. Will gladly go back and forth with you over bullshit just for the hell of it, but noone is going to take a nobody easymoder serious enough to read that.


gr8 post

http://s17.postimg.org/4xwc0j7lr/Untitled_2.jpg

better post

[Mac Drettj]

Feels good being a winner and not acting like a baby over dragon timer variations.

[Kergan]

TLDR. Will gladly go back and forth with you over bullshit just for the hell of it, but noone is going to take a nobody easymoder serious enough to read that.


So go over the bullshit for the hell of it then?

Again, putting the trolls aside for 1 thread to actually talk to you.

I've killed a hell of a lot more motherfuckers in EQ then you or anyone else in your guild dude. I know what PVP is about, I know what it is like to be in a small elite squad and take on the zerg. I came back to EQ to see the raid content I missed the first time around while fighting zergs and killing said motherfuckers. And you know what, when I was killing motherfuckers and fighting the zerg I didn't whine about the fact I wasn't decked out in top end loot because that is the choice I made. And I did said motherfucker fighting in classic, Kunark, Velious, Luclin and PoP. If you think it's bad now wait until Nihilum is decked out in end of expansion Velious loot.

So how about it, want to have a meaningful conversation about how to make things better without shitty ideas like variance or would you like to go back to calling me a blubie nobody ez-moder and push another 10 apps in our direction?

[lite]

tldr

[lite]

http://s17.postimg.org/4xwc0j7lr/Untitled_2.jpg

from the words of a a live and p99 veteran, there's ur variance talk. argue with that.

[Kergan]

TLDR probably only +5 apps but I'll take it I guess.

[Mac Drettj]

Argue with shut the hell up

[Kergan]

Although the follow up post of the same pic you've been spamming the forums with the last week probably another +5 so I think we're at the 10 I've promised to deliver for today.

Thx for helping me meet my quota.

[lite]

Although the follow up post of the same pic you've been spamming the forums with the last week probably another +5 so I think we're at the 10 I've promised to deliver for today.

Thx for helping me meet my quota.


easymoders will find their way into easy mode, its their nature. You are the best proof. I am providing you with a very good argument for variance to you from someone who is.
A veteran, played against Nihilum multiple times, a guild leader and your present guildy. You are some dude that joined nihilum, sorry. Argue with that.

[Mac Drettj]

Argue with your emotions of mad

Welcome 2 norrath

[Kergan]

Again, you go back to the insults because you have nothing else. I play along with the whole blublie zerg locust thing because I find it personally pretty funny considering my EQ history.

You want to know what I used to be about?

http://infestenex.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=9864

Guild I was in, along with Oddjob:
Nine

Small, tight nit, high end evil aligned guild. Perhaps most famous for their guild war with fellow evil guild <Infeste Nex>. To put it mildly, the war did not offer a favourable outcome for Infeste Nex.

Lol IN lost?

We got tore up. They had little numbers and they stuck together and ported everywhere when we were solo it was funny shit.

Infeste Nex was the size of Nihilum and we were half the size of Azrael and we rolled them so hard a guild of 10 is still remembered years later. We sac'd their ogre SK guildleader from 65 to 46 just to end the war. This was in addition to fighting the other two teams on the server the entire time.

And on RZ I was in The Begotten along with Thrilla, another small tight nit PVP focused guild that massacred guilds 5 times it size.

So I've been in your shoes. I've had to fight uphill and I enjoyed it. The difference between you (aside from the fact I won and you lost) and I is that I didn't complain about the zerg mentality and try to change the entire game to my benefit. I embraced it and used it to my advantage. You're incapable of that.

As for HBs variance post, it was very clearly politically motivated and that is the same reason he is against variance now. He is a savvy forumquester and was fighting for what he believed was best for his guild in the short term.

[lite]

lol noplantoread

[Kergan]

You already read it.

[lite]

http://www.naderlibrary.com/MENSCHENFRAUEN.124b.gif

[GradnerLives]

I am providing you with a very good argument for variance to you from someone who is.


wut?

[Kergan]

You couldn't find a better gif than that? Not even animated wtf.

[lite]

wut?

http://s17.postimg.org/4xwc0j7lr/Untitled_2.jpg

You couldn't find a better gif than that? Not even animated wtf.

Reflects on how important I find you :(

[Kergan]

Naw, the 50 responses to my posts today including multiple animated gif's and creating a thread in my honor paint a different picture.

[GradnerLives]

http://s17.postimg.org/4xwc0j7lr/Untitled_2.jpg



Reflects on how important I find you :(

Your jpeg has failed to help me understand your English, dog.

Try another jpeg maybe?

[Rellapse40]

http://s17.postimg.org/4xwc0j7lr/Untitled_2.jpg

[lite]

Naw, the 50 responses to my posts today including multiple animated gif's and creating a thread in my honor paint a different picture.


rustling your jimmies enough for you to write those 20 paragraphs responses is what it's all about.


this one was the icing on the cake though

http://puu.sh/aehTV/93764cb043.png

if you think me pushing your buttons all day is representative of me finding you important, i am ok with that. I don't find you important enough to try and convince you otherwise <3

[Kergan]

If you think my buttons are pushed, I am ok with that. You've just proven to another batch of players reading the forums for the first time that you're incapable of any meaningful discussion, post the same tired bullshit and cry on the forums non stop. Barely anyone even jumping in to help you out on here anymore.

You are the best recruiter we have, and I mean that sincerely.

[Mac Drettj]

Screenshotting quotes

Lite has broken threshold for all time high level of mad

[GradnerLives]

Screenshotting quotes

Lite has broken threshold for all time high level of mad

[Not_Kazowi]

Doesn't think he's important but wants to make sure we know that by multiple posts with quote shots and explanations

Sounds legit

[Vile]

what is the RMT angle here bros

[Kergan]

Lite never once awarded me a raid loot in 18 months of raiding

lololol

[Colgate]

lewis one of the few pals who stopped drinking the kool-aid at a moment's notice to have good box pal fun together

[Sweetbaby Jesus]

No one is nihilum has ever RMT'D ever. We despise RMTers. Guild has the cleanest whistle on the box. No prof to show otherwise.

[Eslade]

No one is nihilum has ever RMT'D ever. We despise RMTers. Guild has the cleanest whistle on the box. No prof to show otherwise.

http://img.4plebs.org/boards/pol/image/1387/19/1387196569054.jpg

[Mac Drettj]

pretty sure lewis has been in nihilum 3 times?

maybe more

love lewis but hes got more alternate personalities and anon alts than anyone on this box

nothing wrong w that just sayin

[Sektor]

http://img.4plebs.org/boards/pol/image/1387/19/1387196569054.jpg

[Tradesonred]

This does not disparage "the Duke's" following, i just think loyalty is not one-sided. Fuck, Lite never once awarded me a raid loot in 18 months of raiding and i feel this way, imagine how the folks who still play and are geared to the nines feel?

Say what you want about Nihilum, heartbrand and Nizzar but they hand their people more loot in 2 weeks than you will ever see in a year in Azrael if youre not part of the inner clique.

Its lite's loot, he deserves it.

Cant stand racist angry nerds who randomly lash out at people though so i guess this Nizzar thing isnt gonna work out for me.

[Feniggles]

naw, naw, naw.

Alche before dragons were slewn.

Phaedra from level 53-59, never made full member. Was not anonymous at all, came back to game after almost a year away and made a wizard and applied stating previous identities. This was simultaneous to the formation of Full Retard which was multiple opposition guilds and with my lack of familiarity with the recent server politics i actually thought joining Nihilum at the time would be fighting the new "Fish Bait" zerg. After three VP raids i just stopped logging in, a PVE rich raid schedule doesn't keep me logging in.

No anonymous alts either than the original duplicity of Alche and Lewis/Nordahl but that was mostly the response to Holocaust being dysfunctional and frustrating on a full guild scale. After Lethdar peaced and Keto and Naikon quit i admittedly was more active on Alche pvping Holocaust but i never one time spoke in TeamSpeak with Nihilum or raided with them. The guildtag, at that stage, took a "hey i want to fight on your side" the server was fresh.

Pixels, or lack thereof, may contribute to my frustration and bitterness but they have never been my motivation. The premise that Lite hoarding pixels for himself is the reason i was never awarded them is contrary to my perception; my point was that my loyalty to Lite as a friend was never driven by him awarding me pixels. I don't refute that i could have acquired many more pixels much more rapidly in the Nihilum format except that, that format just couldn't keep me logging in. Same reason i was never around for any of the 'resistance' loot renaissance periods; if we're raiding every day, i'm inactive.

hehehe

[Kergan]

naw, naw, naw.

Alche before dragons were slewn.

Phaedra from level 53-59, never made full member. Was not anonymous at all, came back to game after almost a year away and made a wizard and applied stating previous identities. This was simultaneous to the formation of Full Retard which was multiple opposition guilds and with my lack of familiarity with the recent server politics i actually thought joining Nihilum at the time would be fighting the new "Fish Bait" zerg. After three VP raids i just stopped logging in, a PVE rich raid schedule doesn't keep me logging in.

No anonymous alts either than the original duplicity of Alche and Lewis/Nordahl but that was mostly the response to Holocaust being dysfunctional and frustrating on a full guild scale. After Lethdar peaced and Keto and Naikon quit i admittedly was more active on Alche pvping Holocaust but i never one time spoke in TeamSpeak with Nihilum or raided with them. The guildtag, at that stage, took a "hey i want to fight on your side" the server was fresh.

Pixels, or lack thereof, may contribute to my frustration and bitterness but they have never been my motivation. The premise that Lite hoarding pixels for himself is the reason i was never awarded them is contrary to my perception; my point was that my loyalty to Lite as a friend was never driven by him awarding me pixels. I don't refute that i could have acquired many more pixels much more rapidly in the Nihilum format except that, that format just couldn't keep me logging in. Same reason i was never around for any of the 'resistance' loot renaissance periods; if we're raiding every day, i'm inactive.

Pretty cool of Lite to reward your loyalty and friendship with 0 items though.

Nizzarr hates my guts but still gives me shit.

[Zalaerian]

Lewdog 4 ever a pal