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EverquestRules
08-29-2010, 02:28 PM
Hello, can i please get a list of the top 5 guilds on the server in order from the best. Thanks!
President
08-29-2010, 02:31 PM
#1 Fish Bait
#2 Fish Bait
#3 Fish Bait
#4 Fish Bait
#5 Fish Bait
prediction: this will end up in RnF
President
08-29-2010, 02:35 PM
Have my babies please Spud, or Bubbles, either one could have my babies. Barfight is way too ugly.
Have my babies please Spud, or Bubbles, either one could have my babies. Barfight is way too ugly.
meet me in Qeynos hills by the lake at midnight
EverquestRules
08-29-2010, 02:37 PM
Its a simple question with a simple answer! if guilds are tied roughly for being around the same content then so be it.
Tseng
08-29-2010, 02:40 PM
They're all full of drama queens. Head over to the Rants and Flames section and watch the drama for yourself.
Alawen Everywhere
08-29-2010, 02:51 PM
It's a somewhat difficult time to answer this question, honestly. I'll do my best to give you a reasonable response.
#1 Inglourious Basterds -- This is the easiest to answer. IB was splitting kills with Dark Ascension during the boss camping period of last spring and most of the summer, but the opening of Plane of Sky made it clear that DA could not keep up.
#2 Divinity -- It gets hard right away here. The answer to this would have been DA even a month ago, but since the opening of Sky, Divinity has had the most success with earlier content while IB has been dominating Sky.
#3 Wrathful Inquisition -- This might be prematurely stated, but WI appears to be making significant efforts to advance. They've had some success with bosses and planar drops and, from the outside, appear to be competent raiders.
#4 Darkwind -- To the best of my knowledge, this is the new guild formed by the raiders of Remedy, Europa and a few more. They seem to be fairly casual and maybe too nice and polite of people to compete with the more ruthless guilds.
#5 Transcendence -- Early in the server, this was IB's main competition. At some point, Transcendence leadership made a decision that having real lives was more important than doing everything first on Project 1999. They still raid, but much more casually.
So where does that leave Dark Ascension? They appear to be completely in limbo. A lot of people have left the guild and there are frequent complaints and rumors of unhappiness with Durison's leadership. I haven't seen them put together a raid force for a week or so. Whether they'll continue to decline or are just reorganizing remains to be seen.
Bubbles
08-29-2010, 02:56 PM
The only way this could get better is if he asked for the 5 worst guilds, in ascending order.
Popcorn time!
EverquestRules
08-29-2010, 03:02 PM
Thank you for the proper answer i was looking for
It's a somewhat difficult time to answer this question, honestly. I'll do my best to give you a reasonable response.
#1 Inglourious Basterds -- This is the easiest to answer. IB was splitting kills with Dark Ascension during the boss camping period of last spring and most of the summer, but the opening of Plane of Sky made it clear that DA could not keep up.
#2 Divinity -- It gets hard right away here. The answer to this would have been DA even a month ago, but since the opening of Sky, Divinity has had the most success with earlier content while IB has been dominating Sky.
#3 Wrathful Inquisition -- This might be prematurely stated, but WI appears to be making significant efforts to advance. They've had some success with bosses and planar drops and, from the outside, appear to be competent raiders.
#4 Darkwind -- To the best of my knowledge, this is the new guild formed by the raiders of Remedy, Europa and a few more. They seem to be fairly casual and maybe too nice and polite of people to compete with the more ruthless guilds.
#5 Transcendence -- Early in the server, this was IB's main competition. At some point, Transcendence leadership made a decision that having real lives was more important than doing everything first on Project 1999. They still raid, but much more casually.
So where does that leave Dark Ascension? They appear to be completely in limbo. A lot of people have left the guild and there are frequent complaints and rumors of unhappiness with Durison's leadership. I haven't seen them put together a raid force for a week or so. Whether they'll continue to decline or are just reorganizing remains to be seen.
Virtuosos
08-29-2010, 03:19 PM
pfft, trans leadership since our casual days have switched...we are generally always caught raiding once a day (either phinny, fear, hate, first 3 isles of sky, or more more rarely firegiants) if something is full pop and we have the people on or the determination to go, we'll go.
but this is purely personal opinion because im in the guild -shrug- id throw us at 4 and thats the way....the cookie crumbles!
sorry, bruce almighty is on ;p
xorbier
08-29-2010, 03:34 PM
It's a somewhat difficult time to answer this question, honestly. I'll do my best to give you a reasonable response.
#1 Inglourious Basterds -- This is the easiest to answer. IB was splitting kills with Dark Ascension during the boss camping period of last spring and most of the summer, but the opening of Plane of Sky made it clear that DA could not keep up.
#2 Divinity -- It gets hard right away here. The answer to this would have been DA even a month ago, but since the opening of Sky, Divinity has had the most success with earlier content while IB has been dominating Sky.
#3 Wrathful Inquisition -- This might be prematurely stated, but WI appears to be making significant efforts to advance. They've had some success with bosses and planar drops and, from the outside, appear to be competent raiders.
#4 Darkwind -- To the best of my knowledge, this is the new guild formed by the raiders of Remedy, Europa and a few more. They seem to be fairly casual and maybe too nice and polite of people to compete with the more ruthless guilds.
#5 Transcendence -- Early in the server, this was IB's main competition. At some point, Transcendence leadership made a decision that having real lives was more important than doing everything first on Project 1999. They still raid, but much more casually.
So where does that leave Dark Ascension? They appear to be completely in limbo. A lot of people have left the guild and there are frequent complaints and rumors of unhappiness with Durison's leadership. I haven't seen them put together a raid force for a week or so. Whether they'll continue to decline or are just reorganizing remains to be seen.
lmao. all accurate but the DA part.... DA was just killing island 4 and almost kill noble djorn (28%) just a week ago. Also, Divinity didn't get any kills untill DA went to sky. How you can say they're not in the top five is laughable dude c'mon. Solid #2. Not to mention the last 2-3 months of getting the majority of plannar gods/dragons.
xorbier
08-29-2010, 03:46 PM
DA has killed Noble Djorn
DA got the Spiroc Lord down to 28%
Yes what you said. haha tired.
Uaellaen
08-29-2010, 03:54 PM
with 13 or less pets? :p
Reiker
08-29-2010, 03:57 PM
lol some guys made a guild named Darkwind? What's next, Afterlife wannabes?
Uaellaen
08-29-2010, 03:59 PM
It is in fact the original darkwind ... remedy and darkwind decided to join forces thou
xorbier
08-29-2010, 04:12 PM
with 13 or less pets? :p
Actually around 9 cyrius. That includes charmed mobs. As you know IB had 15+. Yes we watched.
IB did well,but the mobs on isle 5-7 were not correctly implemented and tested. No one should be able to get past island 4 at this point in the game. The best guilds back in the day did not do it unless it was a zerg.
Please stick with facts.
Uaellaen
08-29-2010, 04:13 PM
Please stick with facts.
^^
xorbier
08-29-2010, 04:16 PM
^^
Exactly. You can't handle the truth.
You have no room to talk. You weren't even on isle 2. Which is fine, but don't bad mouth others cause you're spiteful.
Uaellaen
08-29-2010, 04:17 PM
i didnt badmouth anyone... in fact i think you are trying to badmouth me .. but epicly failed ... and yes we were on isle 2 ...
and i can handle the truth ... but obviously YOU can not ;) lets get this thread into RnF quick shall we?
...Raren
08-29-2010, 04:19 PM
Haha this fucking forum has turned into a giant dramafest fuck i love it!
Virtuosos
08-29-2010, 04:21 PM
/emote puts his face into his palm, watching silently as yet another thread gets dangerously close to being move into RnF
nalkin
08-29-2010, 04:25 PM
Wow... seriously? Where is KaN? We raid everyday and sometimes two times per day.
Virtuosos
08-29-2010, 04:29 PM
you guys are in your own seperate category...
and thanks for helping out my brother last night nalkin lol
nalkin
08-29-2010, 04:43 PM
you guys are in your own seperate category...
and thanks for helping out my brother last night nalkin lol
Hahah np. Most confusing sale ever.
oldhead
08-29-2010, 04:49 PM
It's a somewhat difficult time to answer this question, honestly. I'll do my best to give you a reasonable response.
#1 Inglourious Basterds -- This is the easiest to answer. IB was splitting kills with Dark Ascension during the boss camping period of last spring and most of the summer, but the opening of Plane of Sky made it clear that DA could not keep up.
#2 Divinity -- It gets hard right away here. The answer to this would have been DA even a month ago, but since the opening of Sky, Divinity has had the most success with earlier content while IB has been dominating Sky.
#3 Wrathful Inquisition -- This might be prematurely stated, but WI appears to be making significant efforts to advance. They've had some success with bosses and planar drops and, from the outside, appear to be competent raiders.
#4 Darkwind -- To the best of my knowledge, this is the new guild formed by the raiders of Remedy, Europa and a few more. They seem to be fairly casual and maybe too nice and polite of people to compete with the more ruthless guilds.
#5 Transcendence -- Early in the server, this was IB's main competition. At some point, Transcendence leadership made a decision that having real lives was more important than doing everything first on Project 1999. They still raid, but much more casually.
So where does that leave Dark Ascension? They appear to be completely in limbo. A lot of people have left the guild and there are frequent complaints and rumors of unhappiness with Durison's leadership. I haven't seen them put together a raid force for a week or so. Whether they'll continue to decline or are just reorganizing remains to be seen.
Im not a raider but from what I see this seems about correct to me. Although the OP does seem to be an DA hater as they should be in the top 4.
I'd say
1 IB
2 Divinity
3 DA
4 WI
5 Trans
If I was going to join a raid guild out of that list it would be Trans.. just cus I would need a casual guild. If I had time to hard core raid IB or Divinity.
Too many members from WI and DA have rubbed me the wrong way. The guilds allows too much slack to its members behavior.
girth
08-29-2010, 05:00 PM
Actually around 9 cyrius. That includes charmed mobs. As you know IB had 15+. Yes we watched.
IB did well,but the mobs on isle 5-7 were not correctly implemented and tested. No one should be able to get past island 4 at this point in the game. The best guilds back in the day did not do it unless it was a zerg.
Please stick with facts.
Stick with facts?! What a load of shit coming from you.
You cannot be serious...we barely had 10 pet classes that day if that and we did not use a single charmed pet to kill 'buffed' Lord, yet somehow we managed 15+ pets? You didn't watch us, because you couldn't even come close to the island we were on at the time, you might have watched on track, but I have yet to see a picture showing us with even 10-12 pets.
You guys tried it with charmed pets every single attempt you gave it, and still failed. We used real tanks, you tried tanking with fairies - don't give me that bullshit. You have no chance now that you cannot charm fairies, even with the nerf to Lord.
Also, keep speaking out of your ass, because we have downed Keeper numerous times since patch, which means we beat island 4 after the Sky changes went in, but I guess that's IMPOSSIBLE because xorbier said so. We also have cleared the spiroc trash successfully since the changes. Far be it for us to have more info and gear at our disposal than those guilds at that time.
I will quote your own words right back at you:
You can't handle the truth.
Which is fine, but don't bad mouth others cause you're spiteful.
Rhalous
08-29-2010, 05:09 PM
I think one thing no one has mentioned is the fact that the server's raid rules changed at the same time PoSky went live. Let us not forget that. We look forward to some solid competition through this new FTE system. It actually feels like Everquest again instead of some poopsock hybrid version of the game.
girth
08-29-2010, 05:21 PM
I think one thing no one has mentioned is the fact that the server's raid rules changed at the same time PoSky went live. Let us not forget that. We look forward to some solid competition through this new FTE system. It actually feels like Everquest again instead of some poopsock hybrid version of the game.
Likewise. Congrats on all the raping you guys have been doing. :)
Hogwash
08-29-2010, 05:26 PM
Likewise. Congrats on all the raping you guys have been doing. :)
raping and pillaging
Slade_the_Slide
08-29-2010, 05:30 PM
I guess I'm way too casual for raiding on this server. I did only one raid on live (Nagafen) and I felt it took WAY too much time to complete. It was fun though. I got no loot out of it (other than money split) but I didn't need any at the time. It was fun, but I could not do that every day....you have to be pretty damn dedicated to a game to raid hardcore like that.
anthony210
08-29-2010, 05:39 PM
The fact that we (Divinity) have been getting bosses has less to do with the fact that DA/IB went to sky and a lot more to do with the FTE rules.
Sure we had less competition, but before we were not able to even compete because of the poopsocking. Divinity is not a hardcore raid guild, we are a casual raid guild. We do raid often and try our best to get raid targets but we do have lives outside of the game and thus we got few raid targets during the poopsocking era of the server. Thankfully that is behind us and everyone has a chance to get raid targets if they try hard enough.
Reiker
08-29-2010, 06:02 PM
It is in fact the original darkwind ... remedy and darkwind decided to join forces thou
Ya ok. And I'm Furor.
Uaellaen
08-29-2010, 06:03 PM
belive what you want ;) http://www.darkwind-gaming.com/ our forum
Edited since I'm sure someone would take it the wrong way - might as well see how long this thread can stay out of R&F
Reiker
08-29-2010, 06:07 PM
Tell them to fix their fucking loot site.
XDrake
08-29-2010, 06:17 PM
Sapientia ain't nothing to mess with. :P
Harrison
08-29-2010, 06:31 PM
Actually around 9 cyrius. That includes charmed mobs. As you know IB had 15+. Yes we watched.
IB did well,but the mobs on isle 5-7 were not correctly implemented and tested. No one should be able to get past island 4 at this point in the game. The best guilds back in the day did not do it unless it was a zerg.
Please stick with facts.
You're a moron. Please stick with the facts.
Taluvill
08-29-2010, 06:35 PM
Tell them to fix their fucking loot site.
Your an angry fellow.
...Raren
08-29-2010, 06:42 PM
Im making a new guild called Fires of Heaven who wants to join?
Glitch
08-29-2010, 06:59 PM
Im making a new guild called Fires of Heaven who wants to join?
Didn't I tell you I wanted to start a lowbie/leveling guild called Fires of Heaven? let's doooo it.
Tronjer
08-29-2010, 07:21 PM
Ya ok. And I'm Furor.
It's true though. Darkwind on P99 got founded by ex members from EQ live. Prior to the Remedy merge we only took people who had former affilations to DW or were considered as friends.
xorbier
08-29-2010, 07:25 PM
You're a moron. Please stick with the facts.
Personal insults. Way to win an argument.
xorbier
08-29-2010, 07:41 PM
Stick with facts?! What a load of shit coming from you.
You cannot be serious...we barely had 10 pet classes that day if that and we did not use a single charmed pet to kill 'buffed' Lord, yet somehow we managed 15+ pets? You didn't watch us, because you couldn't even come close to the island we were on at the time, you might have watched on track, but I have yet to see a picture showing us with even 10-12 pets.
You guys tried it with charmed pets every single attempt you gave it, and still failed. We used real tanks, you tried tanking with fairies - don't give me that bullshit. You have no chance now that you cannot charm fairies, even with the nerf to Lord.
Also, keep speaking out of your ass, because we have downed Keeper numerous times since patch, which means we beat island 4 after the Sky changes went in, but I guess that's IMPOSSIBLE because xorbier said so. We also have cleared the spiroc trash successfully since the changes. Far be it for us to have more info and gear at our disposal than those guilds at that time.
I will quote your own words right back at you:
You guys did great and I'm not saying otherwise. I'm merely pointing out the fact that your guild successfully accumilated more mages/necros than ours and was successful at killing him. Good job.
Yes, we did see your pets on track. I'm not sure why you're so defensive about using pets to tank him along with your members. Both IB and DA also used players to tank in combination with pets. Your guild was the victor. But i do remember the start of your fight and seeing your numbers drop within seconds and the only ones left were pet casters chaining. There's nothing wrong with that.
And yes, anything past 4 should not be attainable unless using mass numbers at this given time in the game. This server is wonderful but it's not 100% like it was on live. Perhaps you were not there to fully experience this to comprehend. If you disagree please link factual data that shows top guilds back in the day accomplishing what you've done and getting as far as you have without zerging and maybe i'll come to your way of thinking. IB is a very well respected and talented guild I'm not arguing that. Responding to my post as if you're on the level of the top notch guilds during live is humerous.
Bubbles
08-29-2010, 07:53 PM
Didn't I tell you I wanted to start a lowbie/leveling guild called Fires of Heaven? let's doooo it.
lol die!
Glitch
08-29-2010, 08:01 PM
lol die!
I would, but you'd just rez me. ;)
GypsyGirl
08-29-2010, 08:01 PM
Trans is awful. What raid force do they have? Also, grouping with various members these past few weeks I've come to the conclusion that it's just easier to avoid them all. They're terrible.
Alawen Everywhere
08-29-2010, 08:45 PM
I wasn't trying to disrespect Dark Ascension with my ranking; I was doing my honest best to rate the current guild lineup. When is the last time DA put together a raid force and killed something? From what I can tell, the leadership and numbers to accomplish things DA was doing a month ago are no longer there.
Since writing my original response, I've also heard that there are problems within Wrathful Inquisition. The rumor is that a bunch of DA's leadership wanted to join WI and abandon the ungeared zerg force that was assembled primarily to sit 15+ at boss spawns under the pre-Sky raid rules. Apparently this caused a rift between the senior leadership of WI and some of the members. As a result, I'm hearing that Bumamgar and Emoqq have decided to leave Project 1999.
Can anyone confirm or deny these rumors? If they're true, then I have no idea how to rank either guild. I was omitting Dark Ascension because, as far as I can tell, they're no longer raiding. If Wrathful Inquisition has also stopped raiding, then they can't really be considered a top guild, either.
Apparently, the opening of Plane of Sky, the disappearance of Inglourious Basterds from earlier zones and the changes to the raid rules have really shaken things up. I find it quite interesting.
Emoqq
08-29-2010, 09:32 PM
Im quitting.
My reasons are my own. I have no comment on WI or DA, but can say those rumors about a merger are meerly rumors, and have nothing to do with why im leaving.
I can speak for no one else.
Nedala
08-29-2010, 09:33 PM
Also, Divinity didn't get any kills untill DA went to sky.
Of course, because DA poopsocked the hell out of any raidmob, there was nothing to compete until the raidrules were changed, unless you were willing to have absolutely no live and camp bosses for days, lamesauce. Since the lame camping shit ended there is not much doubt that divinity > DA. I guess everyone but da members will agree with that ;)
Guess some people are mad because their poopsocking isnt considered as skill by the community.
lol some guys made a guild named Darkwind? What's next, Afterlife wannabes?
Darkwind was formed from original darkwind members, what alawen wrote there is not exactly correct. If you dont believe me, check out our site, or do you think we hacked in there so it looks like its the same guild?
Actually around 9 cyrius.
Please stick with facts.
lol you say "stick with facts" but believe one of the dumbest rumors i ve ever heard. funny
so yeah, please stick with facts.
Trans is awful. What raid force do they have? Also, grouping with various members these past few weeks I've come to the conclusion that it's just easier to avoid them all. They're terrible.
worst rant attempt ever, looks like this is just some douche that has personal problem with a member of trans and made a troll acc to make em look bad. Dont believe him, from what i have seen trans are nice people :)
oldhead
08-29-2010, 09:35 PM
Im quitting.
My reasons are my own. I have no comment on WI or DA, but can say those rumors about a merger are meerly rumors, and have nothing to do with why im leaving.
I can speak for no one else.
I can haz ur stuffz?
http://www.neonlite.ca/Cute_kitten_eyes.jpg
Harrison
08-29-2010, 09:41 PM
Im quitting.
My reasons are my own. I have no comment on WI or DA, but can say those rumors about a merger are meerly rumors, and have nothing to do with why im leaving.
I can speak for no one else.
There is nothing worse than someone quitting and making it public, and then keeping it "cryptic" lol
Virtuosos
08-29-2010, 10:23 PM
Your an angry fellow.
no YOU'RE a towel :/
eqdruid76
08-29-2010, 11:04 PM
As I predicted, everyone is taking their balls and going home.
Good for the server anyhow.
Reiker
08-29-2010, 11:32 PM
Darkwind was formed from original darkwind members, what alawen wrote there is not exactly correct. If you dont believe me, check out our site, or do you think we hacked in there so it looks like its the same guild?
Just because you may have a couple original Darkwind members doesn't mean that naming a guild Darkwind on P99 isn't extremely tacky. Keep clutching on to the times when that name actually meant something, though. I'm sure you'll have as much success as Fires of Heaven did on the Combine.
And seriously, Darkwind hosted one of the most useful EQ databases on the internet, why has that shit been down for so long?
Supreme
08-29-2010, 11:35 PM
Trans is awful. What raid force do they have? Also, grouping with various members these past few weeks I've come to the conclusion that it's just easier to avoid them all. They're terrible.
Great second post...welcome to the Community!
Maddy
08-29-2010, 11:35 PM
because the person who was running it simply cant be arsed anymore
Taluvill
08-29-2010, 11:51 PM
no YOU'RE a towel :/
= (
Taluvill
08-30-2010, 12:02 AM
And who's Gypsy Girl btw? I know members in trans that can compete toe to toe on a skill level with the top of the community. Don't rant and flame because your angry about some dispute a noob member gave you.
Reiker
08-30-2010, 12:04 AM
Shit, IB should have renamed to Fires of Heaven while they had the chance and Keystone was a member... dropped the ball there guys.
Nedala
08-30-2010, 12:05 AM
I dont see why you are flaming at the name. Whats the problem with a bunch of people restarting on this server and reforming their old guild? You just were reading darkwind was reformed on this server and started to troll out of the nothing. As far as i know its the same leadership as back then. Im confident its going to be a great guild, regardless the guildag.
Anyway im an ex remedy member and rather had kept that guildtag, but i dont care much about the guildtag,i care about the people in the guild :)
Alawen Everywhere
08-30-2010, 12:14 AM
I still see no real information about the future prospects for Dark Ascension or Wrathful Inquisition. From what I can tell, both are very much in a state of flux.
Nedala, could you clarify the formation of Darkwind?
Nedala
08-30-2010, 12:16 AM
Nedala, could you clarify the formation of Darkwind?
no. please ask our leaders or officres for such things im only speaking for myself here.
Uaellaen
08-30-2010, 12:41 AM
I still see no real information about the future prospects for Dark Ascension or Wrathful Inquisition. From what I can tell, both are very much in a state of flux.
Nedala, could you clarify the formation of Darkwind?
What you want to know?
Bubbles
08-30-2010, 01:47 AM
What you want to know?
What have you done with Ninik! :)
Darenenski
08-30-2010, 01:57 AM
Ya really, Ninik is the coolest person I met on P99. Such a kind-hearted player & very generous. Plus I love the way he/she roleplays that female gnome cleric.
bled12345
08-30-2010, 02:06 AM
Whats the best guild on the server? Thats easy peasy.
#1 Sapientia. Best guild I've ever been in. Awesome people, great comradery, helpful, fun, intelligent, all around good hearted people that try their best at everything they do. I'm sure we could take down god/dragons if we had the people online, but we couldn't be bothered with having a raid alert system or camping things for hours on end lol.
or...... by "best" do you mean the people that screw other people over, train, crash zones, QQ, camp all day, box while afk camping gods/dragons, item dupe, and sell god loot that their guild got them?
Cause if thats your definition of "best" Then sapientia is probably pretty far down on the list :P
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Bashndash - lvl 50 Ogre war (Sapientia)
Dashnbash - lvl 50 HE mag (Sapientia)
Flashndash - lvl 26 WE rog (Sapientia)
Virtuosos
08-30-2010, 02:31 AM
sapientia and vesica dey or whatever are both respectable guilds, like em both
Nocte
08-30-2010, 02:50 AM
Who really gives a shit what ranking Player_001 has of the guilds on Server_001? Seriously, every time this topic rears its head it's like everyone loses their fucking minds over what some stranger thinks of their group of friends.
Humerox
08-30-2010, 03:04 AM
sapientia and vesica dey or whatever are both respectable guilds, like em both
Agreed. Eminence are a good bunch too. Since Darkwind is a merger of guilds I always considered respectable...I'd have to say they're probably good folks, too.
Transcendence are good people. They've just been restructuring...I think we'll see a lot more from them in the near future. I've heard they eliminated their problem people...
I'm not surprised by, nor do I shed tears for the slow death of the poopsock guilds. Most members in them were taken advantage of anyway...required to camp as part of the app process, etc. There's plenty of room in good guilds for the ones that aren't asshats, I'm sure.
Sigmastorm
08-30-2010, 03:22 AM
What's funny is IB farming 20 hours a day, 7 days a week, 30 days a month for half a year, yet it's still pets who has to pull through for them.
Talk about wasting your life, holy sheeeet.
Some of you fuckers needs to uninstall this game asap.
Eternal-Elf
08-30-2010, 06:19 AM
What's funny is IB farming 20 hours a day, 7 days a week, 30 days a month for half a year, yet it's still pets who has to pull through for them.
Talk about wasting your life, holy sheeeet.
Some of you fuckers needs to uninstall this game asap.
it occurs to me if any of us HAD much of a life, there wouldn't be the longing desire to play a 10 year old game.
azeth
08-30-2010, 07:47 AM
Just because you may have a couple original Darkwind members doesn't mean that naming a guild Darkwind on P99 isn't extremely tacky. Keep clutching on to the times when that name actually meant something, though. I'm sure you'll have as much success as Fires of Heaven did on the Combine
translation:
lol im liek a raser sharp inernet arguer type persin lol
4/10 respect
internalprime8
08-30-2010, 08:31 AM
My vote is for Divinity at #1 for being swell guys. My limited experiences with them have only been positive. Same goes for Transcendence although my experiences with them are even more limited. You've both made a positive impression on me though.
Erasong
08-30-2010, 09:12 AM
The fact that we (Divinity) have been getting bosses has less to do with the fact that DA/IB went to sky and a lot more to do with the FTE rules.
Really not trying to start anything here. I like you Divinity guys. Most of you know it, but before the time of DA and the poopsock wars, when IB raced trans and Div for mobs, wasnt the ranking still pretty much the same? And Jinsho I havent seen you since our solb exp group days! Whats up?
Skope
08-30-2010, 09:16 AM
I think sky did open the hole for us, i don't think anyone will deny that. Having IB off our backs has helped a lot.
But the FTE rules have helped tremendously as well, and the fact that we seem more organized now. We seem to compete with at least a guild on every spawn, but have been consistently faster at pulling the trigger and making less mistakes.
But above all, we like to keep it fun :)
Sap are cool people, as are eminence. Eminence got mighty close to a kill recently with some very low numbers (numbers that other guild(s) would and HAVE wiped with).
anthony210
08-30-2010, 09:33 AM
Really not trying to start anything here. I like you Divinity guys. Most of you know it, but before the time of DA and the poopsock wars, when IB raced trans and Div for mobs, wasnt the ranking still pretty much the same? And Jinsho I havent seen you since our solb exp group days! Whats up?
I have been around. Mostly playing alts when were not raiding. That coupled with a new job and you know how things go.
Its true we were never top dog on the server and I never claimed we were or are. In fact I am pretty sure we arent trying to be #1. However, before DA came around we did atleast manage 1-2 raid bosses a week. Then the poopsocking started and we pretty much said screw it and stopped trying. Now since the new rules we can compete again and its being shown by the amount of raid targets we have gotten in the past 3 weeks.
If IB came down from Sky and started competing I think we could hold our own. Sure we probably wouldnt be getting as many but I think we would get our share of mobs. We are much more organized as skope said than we were before it seems.
Humerox
08-30-2010, 09:37 AM
we pretty much said screw it and stopped trying.
We just didn't want to do it that way. Felt almost...dirty.
Supreme
08-30-2010, 09:40 AM
Trans is not trying to be number 1 or claiming to be number 1. Its a EMU after all. We show up we raid we leave. It is a easy recipe.
But to even be a part of the conversation is flattering.
Supreme
08-30-2010, 09:51 AM
We just didn't want to do it that way. Felt almost...dirty.
Most people think we did the same thing. The fact is that i had no desire to deal with the people that was currently in Trans constantly worried about fighting with IB over raid mobs.
Some people stress over stuff that just is not that important.
So it started to eat Trans up. You had one side that had no desire to fight over content and another side (the younger inexperienced) that wanted to do that. We as a guild leadership announced we was going to be a casual raid guild and left the statement "ambiguous" in its translation.
We took on water and started to list. The rats that thought the ship was sinking swam to other ships. We then righted the ship and got back to work.
Lastnight we had 31 people online...22 in raid. Only a handful of us are actual original Transcendence Members. We are hardcore gamers that had RL happen and simply love to play EQ.
Erasong
08-30-2010, 10:23 AM
For the record im glad you Div guys are doing so well. Hope you all have nothing but success as long as it isnt VS me :D. All love here.
...Raren
08-30-2010, 10:24 AM
Div is up and rising everyone go apply quick!
Erasong
08-30-2010, 10:25 AM
Some people stress over stuff that just is not that important.
We are hardcore gamers that had RL happen and simply love to play EQ.
I agree with these statements and wish you guys continued success as well.
When RL happens to me, like right now im in class, I troll EQ forums instead of playing!
...Raren
08-30-2010, 10:28 AM
I agree with these statements and wish you guys continued success as well.
When RL happens to me, like right now im in class, I troll EQ forums instead of playing!
WHAT! Your playing again?
Hello, can i please get a list of the top 5 guilds on the server in order from the best. Thanks!
The question never insinuated that 'raiding' made guilds the 'best.'
:cool:
http://peacepipeguild.com/img/hgh.jpg (http://peacepipeguild.com)
Cyrano
08-30-2010, 10:56 AM
Didn't I tell you I wanted to start a lowbie/leveling guild called Fires of Heaven? let's doooo it.
Should call it "Fizzles of Heaven"
azeth
08-30-2010, 10:56 AM
Should call it "Fizzles of Heaven"
dang. this one of them sitcheeations wherein i wish id'a thot uh that
Erasong
08-30-2010, 11:35 AM
WHAT! Your playing again?
ya i've been back like 2 weeks. shoot me a tell in game on whatever new acct you have.
girth
08-30-2010, 11:55 AM
You guys did great and I'm not saying otherwise. I'm merely pointing out the fact that your guild successfully accumilated more mages/necros than ours and was successful at killing him. Good job.
Yes, we did see your pets on track. I'm not sure why you're so defensive about using pets to tank him along with your members. Both IB and DA also used players to tank in combination with pets. Your guild was the victor. But i do remember the start of your fight and seeing your numbers drop within seconds and the only ones left were pet casters chaining. There's nothing wrong with that.
And yes, anything past 4 should not be attainable unless using mass numbers at this given time in the game. This server is wonderful but it's not 100% like it was on live. Perhaps you were not there to fully experience this to comprehend. If you disagree please link factual data that shows top guilds back in the day accomplishing what you've done and getting as far as you have without zerging and maybe i'll come to your way of thinking. IB is a very well respected and talented guild I'm not arguing that. Responding to my post as if you're on the level of the top notch guilds during live is humerous.
You tried tanking with charmed pets, we did not. Charmed pets that weren't even supposed to be charmable. Don't act like your 28% pull meant anything, cause you could not come close to that anymore.
Also, why do you not understand that we have had way more time to gear our members than guilds did back then, and we have an unlimited source of information about 10 year old content. Oh we killed Keeper again by the way, keep on keeping on about the impossible shit. Just cause you cannot do it...
Hey I'm xorbier, I know that no guild on Live ever beat Gates of Discord before OOW came out so that must mean that ROI never did it on the progression server, BECAUSE IT WASN'T EVER DONE LIKE THAT BEFORE, so therefore impossible...damn you're stupid man.
Harrison
08-30-2010, 12:15 PM
What's funny is IB farming 20 hours a day, 7 days a week, 30 days a month for half a year, yet it's still pets who has to pull through for them.
Talk about wasting your life, holy sheeeet.
Some of you fuckers needs to uninstall this game asap.
What's funny is some noobshit not realizing that pets are part of the game. Rage more, moron.
Gwence
08-30-2010, 01:29 PM
Divinity was smart in not rushing into sky (unlike DA and WI), in fact I dont think I've seen a single member up there. Their wont be free reign on bosses forever though, I'd soak up as much as you can while you can!
...Raren
08-30-2010, 01:55 PM
Lol you guys still argueing over who is better?
Humerox
08-30-2010, 01:59 PM
Divinity was smart in not rushing into sky (unlike DA and WI), in fact I dont think I've seen a single member up there. Their wont be free reign on bosses forever though, I'd soak up as much as you can while you can!
There isn't now. We've had to compete for every one of our kills, lol. You may find us a bit harder than you remember.
:D
President
08-30-2010, 02:49 PM
DA, IB, I hate to break it to you, but I just solo'd the Spiroc Lord.
azeth
08-30-2010, 02:53 PM
DA, IB, I hate to break it to you, but I just solo'd the Spiroc Lord.
Spiroc Lord = KFC Double Down?
Olorin
08-30-2010, 03:16 PM
The fact that we (Divinity) have been getting bosses has less to do with the fact that DA/IB went to sky and a lot more to do with the FTE rules.
Sure we had less competition, but before we were not able to even compete because of the poopsocking. Divinity is not a hardcore raid guild, we are a casual raid guild. We do raid often and try our best to get raid targets but we do have lives outside of the game and thus we got few raid targets during the poopsocking era of the server. Thankfully that is behind us and everyone has a chance to get raid targets if they try hard enough.
That and your willingness to do whatever you need to in order to get kills -- DT griefing, disrupting other raids, training, jumping in for a kill after another guild has cleared zone, exploiting bugs for victories, etc. Dont get me wrong, I have friends in Divinity, but I try to play within the rules, so if I have to cheat to get kills, i'd rather not play.
Arclanz
08-30-2010, 03:18 PM
You tried tanking with charmed pets, we did not. Charmed pets that weren't even supposed to be charmable. Don't act like your 28% pull meant anything, cause you could not come close to that anymore.
Also, why do you not understand that we have had way more time to gear our members than guilds did back then, and we have an unlimited source of information about 10 year old content. Oh we killed Keeper again by the way, keep on keeping on about the impossible shit. Just cause you cannot do it...
Hey I'm xorbier, I know that no guild on Live ever beat Gates of Discord before OOW came out so that must mean that ROI never did it on the progression server, BECAUSE IT WASN'T EVER DONE LIKE THAT BEFORE, so therefore impossible...damn you're stupid man.
How I wish I had the time to join the ranks of the top raiders; it's fun to read. Girth I liked your posts here. but let me remind you that GoD on the progression server != the original GoD on live. I'm not debating the point of your post, however, and I agree it is posible to boldly go where no man has gone before.
Harrison
08-30-2010, 03:22 PM
That and your willingness to do whatever you need to in order to get kills -- DT griefing, disrupting other raids, training, jumping in for a kill after another guild has cleared zone, exploiting bugs for victories, etc. Dont get me wrong, I have friends in Divinity, but I try to play within the rules, so if I have to cheat to get kills, i'd rather not play.
Lol I think you're confusing Divinity for another guild...
Molitoth
08-30-2010, 03:29 PM
jumping in for a kill after another guild has cleared zone
I've seen this quite a bit by a majority of the guilds... it's just the way this server works.
Rhalous
08-30-2010, 03:30 PM
That and your willingness to do whatever you need to in order to get kills -- DT griefing, disrupting other raids, training, jumping in for a kill after another guild has cleared zone, exploiting bugs for victories, etc. Dont get me wrong, I have friends in Divinity, but I try to play within the rules, so if I have to cheat to get kills, i'd rather not play.
You can send all hate tells to my inbox. Only three people in this guild make decisions on raids, and Jinsho isn't one of them. Other than that, I suggest you follow the proper channels (such as a petition) if you feel that we acted outside of the rules of the server.
Icecometus
08-30-2010, 03:30 PM
That and your willingness to do whatever you need to in order to get kills -- DT griefing, disrupting other raids, training, jumping in for a kill after another guild has cleared zone, exploiting bugs for victories, etc. Dont get me wrong, I have friends in Divinity, but I try to play within the rules, so if I have to cheat to get kills, i'd rather not play.
LoL
Slade_the_Slide
08-30-2010, 03:33 PM
I like watching all these guilds act all butt-hurt over a silly game. Someone had brought popcorn earlier right? Can I has some? This is good!
Alawen Everywhere
08-30-2010, 03:39 PM
The raid scene on this server really is pretty ugly. I almost think instances really are better.
Olorin
08-30-2010, 03:40 PM
You can send all hate tells to my inbox. Only three people in this guild make decisions on raids, and Jinsho isn't one of them. Other than that, I suggest you follow the proper channels (such as a petition) if you feel that we acted outside of the rules of the server.
Shrug, the rules mean nothing theres nobody willing to enforce them. Only responded to Jinsho because hes trying to claim that FTE is the reason that you are getting kills, when in fact it seems to me to be more of a change in attitude with your guild.
When other guilds leave the zone because of your constant initiation of the fear DT cycle, that seems to me to be a disruption of their raid.
Rejuvenation
08-30-2010, 03:49 PM
Shrug, the rules mean nothing theres nobody willing to enforce them. Only responded to Jinsho because hes trying to claim that FTE is the reason that you are getting kills, when in fact it seems to me to be more of a change in attitude with your guild.
When other guilds leave the zone because of your constant initiation of the fear DT cycle, that seems to me to be a disruption of their raid.
Yea, almost as if you don't have to do it 3 times to get to the boss.
Humerox
08-30-2010, 03:56 PM
That and your willingness to do whatever you need to in order to get kills -- DT griefing, disrupting other raids, training, jumping in for a kill after another guild has cleared zone, exploiting bugs for victories, etc. Dont get me wrong, I have friends in Divinity, but I try to play within the rules, so if I have to cheat to get kills, i'd rather not play.
What? Killing all the golems first would be DT griefing I suppose, if you didn't know what was going on. Didn't hear us complaining when we had to log like 100 times when there were three guilds racing for CT a couple weeks ago. Did you? You don't think DT's are a PITA for us, too? Cut me a break.
Yukkers loved everybody, though. YUKKERS!!
Disrupting other raids?
Being in the same zone I guess qualifies for that one. Or can we not port in to compete when a boss mob spawns? That would put us back to camping. You don't hear us complaining about the competition...we embrace it.
Training?
Must be that leet enchanter train we did with no aggro on the chanter. Or the rogue that brought him to our camp, again with no aggro. We spent months perfecting the Enchanter No-Aggro Train, lemme tell ya.
Jumping in for a kill after another guild has cleared zone?
Divinity hasn't been on an encounter yet where we didn't spend considerable time clearing. Or are you confused about FTE? Or completely dishonest about the first and confused about the second? Or both?
Exploiting bugs for victories?
What? LOL...explain that one for me...unless waiting for another guild to comlete a wipe is a bug we're exploiting. Then we must be in.
I don't know who you are, but you just laid out a bunch of stuff that is a strict no-no for Divinity.
I'm not worried about anyone taking you seriously...anyone that knows Divinity that is...but when you are so butt-hurt you come up with nonsense, maybe it's time to take a break.
Yeah, I guess we were due for the flame-fests. We are winning, after all.
President
08-30-2010, 04:01 PM
Spiroc Lord = KFC Double Down?
I had a double down for the first time on a road trip a few weeks ago when driving through Wyoming. Let me tell you, that is a bad fucking idea. I had to shit my brains out within 15 minutes of eating the thing and there wasn't an exit for 45. That was bad times.
guineapig
08-30-2010, 04:06 PM
I don't know who you are, but you just laid out a bunch of stuff that is a strict no-no for Divinity.
To answer your question, Olorin is Gabrielle.
Gabrielle, Uber level 50, Olorin
:p
Also, Gabrielle is not familiar with how the CT script works.
Trimm
08-30-2010, 04:06 PM
Shrug, the rules mean nothing theres nobody willing to enforce them. Only responded to Jinsho because hes trying to claim that FTE is the reason that you are getting kills, when in fact it seems to me to be more of a change in attitude with your guild.
When other guilds leave the zone because of your constant initiation of the fear DT cycle, that seems to me to be a disruption of their raid.
That and your willingness to do whatever you need to in order to get kills -- DT griefing, disrupting other raids, training, jumping in for a kill after another guild has cleared zone, exploiting bugs for victories, etc. Dont get me wrong, I have friends in Divinity, but I try to play within the rules, so if I have to cheat to get kills, i'd rather not play.
Despite most of you posts content being false, you are correct about a few things. There is a new attitude in our guild, and its one of mobilizing faster, tracking longer and killing targets with fewer mistakes. FTE has worked well for us because we never took part in camping a raid force for days on end in order to get first dibs. Now if we can mobilize faster than you, and safely engage a target before you do, be sure that we will.
To address your first post;
1.) We have never griefed or disrupted any other guilds on purpose. That goes for trains as well. If my math is correct, a kill of CT + Draco causes at least 5 DT cycles that are unavoidable. Throw in extra cycles for accidental agro and yes, its a pain in the ass for everyone involved. Last time WI and Divinity raced for CT, there was at least a dozen cycles of DT caused by both guilds, and no one complained. Thats the nature of the zone when CT is up.
2.) If zoning in after you have zoned in first and engaging a raid target is breaking a rule, I'd love to see it. It is called First to Engage for a reason (Also, I seem to remember a raid where DA leapfrogged not only us, but WI as well on CT and we didn't say a word about it, because it was within the rules).
3.) What bugs did we ever exploit? We have had a clean kill of CT 3 weeks in a row and this is the first Ive heard of using any bugs to our advantage. We pride ourselves on not having to use any sort of bugs or 'cheats' to get the job done.
Like Rhalous said, if you have any issues with Divinity we are more than happy to talk with you in a more private manner. Just contact any officer and we can go from there.
Bones
08-30-2010, 04:17 PM
That and your willingness to do whatever you need to in order to get kills -- DT griefing, disrupting other raids, training, jumping in for a kill after another guild has cleared zone, exploiting bugs for victories, etc. Dont get me wrong, I have friends in Divinity, but I try to play within the rules, so if I have to cheat to get kills, i'd rather not play.
Made me lol.
8/10
Humerox
08-30-2010, 04:35 PM
Now if we can mobilize faster than you, and safely engage a target before you do, be sure that we will.
THE NEW DIVINITY (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HoLs0V8T5AA)
Through reformation, from Divinity to the Divinity Machine. Thanks Barfight, Rhalous, Jelatin, and all of our other excellent officers and members. Raiyn, you rock.
:)
xorbier
08-30-2010, 04:43 PM
Update:
Divinity is now the #1 guild on the server.
Trimm
08-30-2010, 04:48 PM
I'd also like to note we don't cause trouble on the forums and flame for no reason. We only spoke up and defended ourselves when attacked by the best monk on the server, Gabrielle.
Starklen
08-30-2010, 06:41 PM
You guys did great and I'm not saying otherwise. I'm merely pointing out the fact that your guild successfully accumilated more mages/necros than ours and was successful at killing him. Good job.
Yes, we did see your pets on track. I'm not sure why you're so defensive about using pets to tank him along with your members. Both IB and DA also used players to tank in combination with pets. Your guild was the victor. But i do remember the start of your fight and seeing your numbers drop within seconds and the only ones left were pet casters chaining. There's nothing wrong with that.
And yes, anything past 4 should not be attainable unless using mass numbers at this given time in the game. This server is wonderful but it's not 100% like it was on live. Perhaps you were not there to fully experience this to comprehend. If you disagree please link factual data that shows top guilds back in the day accomplishing what you've done and getting as far as you have without zerging and maybe i'll come to your way of thinking. IB is a very well respected and talented guild I'm not arguing that. Responding to my post as if you're on the level of the top notch guilds during live is humerous.
You obviously still have no clue how we beat the Spiroc Lord and you probably never will. I encourage anyone who thinks that pets can beat that boss to go and try it. Your entire argument revolves around the fact that because something wasn't done 10 years ago, it can't be done now. Have you ever thought that just maybe the benefit of hindsight and experience, both in this MMO and others, could lead to something impressive? Probably not.
...Raren
08-30-2010, 06:43 PM
You obviously still have no clue how we beat the Spiroc Lord and you probably never will. I encourage anyone who thinks that pets can beat that boss to go and try it. Your entire argument revolves around the fact that because something wasn't done 10 years ago, it can't be done now. Have you ever thought that just maybe the benefit of hindsight and experience, both in this MMO and others, could lead to something impressive? Probably not.
I know how you killed it!
randomer
08-30-2010, 06:48 PM
Divinity is not a hardcore raid guild, we are a casual raid guild. We do raid often and try our best to get raid targets but we do have lives outside of the game.
yea right, casual guilds dont raid at all hours on week days,they have jobs,responsibilities etc, casual guild my ass!
Skope
08-30-2010, 06:52 PM
yea right, casual guilds dont raid at all hours on week days,they have jobs,responsibilities etc, casual guild my ass!
someone tried to make this point to me today, but it just doesn't hold water.
We are still a casual guild. Nobody is ever required to wake up and raid in the wee-hours, nobody is required to track and there is no mandatory raid attendance. Alts are actually allowed in the guild and if you don't feel like raiding for an event you really don't have to...
We all have jobs and/or are in school. we don't take EQ as seriously as a hardcore raiding guild would, we've just been careful to finely tune what we have now in such a manner that it works and doesn't become too straining on our members. And if the kills start to dry up I can guarantee you we won't fret and lose any sleep over it. Above all, it's guild with good people and about having fun.
Olorin
08-30-2010, 07:28 PM
Despite most of you posts content being false, you are correct about a few things. There is a new attitude in our guild, and its one of mobilizing faster, tracking longer and killing targets with fewer mistakes. FTE has worked well for us because we never took part in camping a raid force for days on end in order to get first dibs. Now if we can mobilize faster than you, and safely engage a target before you do, be sure that we will.
To address your first post;
1.) We have never griefed or disrupted any other guilds on purpose. That goes for trains as well. If my math is correct, a kill of CT + Draco causes at least 5 DT cycles that are unavoidable. Throw in extra cycles for accidental agro and yes, its a pain in the ass for everyone involved. Last time WI and Divinity raced for CT, there was at least a dozen cycles of DT caused by both guilds, and no one complained. Thats the nature of the zone when CT is up.
Not quite true, you disrupted two other raids -- and people did complain. When you have 2 monks parked at CT and initiate the CT cycle repeatedly without pulling him, I dont know what else you call it. There were far mare than 5 DT cycles, i would say 25+ would be closer to the truth, and the only time we triggererd it was when we were actually pulling something. In fact Transcendence left the zone entriely because of your actions in that instance. Unfortunately the admins of this server chose not to enforce the rules on you.
I also have a screenshot of one of your rogues hide/sneaking while the train that your guild caused pathed back -- all of our pullers and miscellaneous others were in our camp. Once again, the admins didn't enforce it because at this point in the server, Screenshoots mean nothing.
2.) If zoning in after you have zoned in first and engaging a raid target is breaking a rule, I'd love to see it. It is called First to Engage for a reason (Also, I seem to remember a raid where DA leapfrogged not only us, but WI as well on CT and we didn't say a word about it, because it was within the rules).
I can't speak to any DA leapfrogging because I never saw that happen, but fear is (and should be) a different story -- we did the break-in, we cleared 90% of the zone and you took CT. If not strickly against the rules, certainly a douchebag move.
3.) What bugs did we ever exploit? We have had a clean kill of CT 3 weeks in a row and this is the first Ive heard of using any bugs to our advantage. We pride ourselves on not having to use any sort of bugs or 'cheats' to get the job done.
Like Rhalous said, if you have any issues with Divinity we are more than happy to talk with you in a more private manner. Just contact any officer and we can go from there.
Well, the one kill I was a witness to -- you pulled CT with 12-15 mobs still up, but for some reason the adds didnt reach you until CT was nearly dead. I have been told that this bug has been fixed though, and will soon make it in.
Personally, I could care less either way, but trying to maintain you are a lily-white guild when in fact you use everytrick you can whether it is against the rules or not is galling.
savarin
08-30-2010, 07:35 PM
I rarely post but Gab, you are either grossly misinformed or outright lying. The adds came immediately, and if you'd actually observed the fight you'd know that. I can understand being frustrated that another guild is doing a little better than yours but your constant accusations do nothing to help your cause. If you think we cheated, prove it.
Bones
08-30-2010, 07:37 PM
Well, the one kill I was a witness to -- you pulled CT with 12-15 mobs still up, but for some reason the adds didnt reach you until CT was nearly dead. I have been told that this bug has been fixed though, and will soon make it in.
This is completely false.
Olorin
08-30-2010, 07:42 PM
I rarely post but Gab, you are either grossly misinformed or outright lying. The adds came immediately, and if you'd actually observed the fight you'd know that. I can understand being frustrated that another guild is doing a little better than yours but your constant accusations do nothing to help your cause. If you think we cheated, prove it.
I saw it personally, and it got escalated to the server admins. It doesn't frustrate me that you are getting god kills, we are doing our own thing, you'll notice that we were not racing you for any of the spawns recently, we get more upgrades in other places.
I have know you quite a while Savarin -- I don't believe i have ever lied, embellished the truth or even exxagerated it once in all that time. I am just here to have fun playing a game.
Jewce
08-30-2010, 07:43 PM
Well, the one kill I was a witness to -- you pulled CT with 12-15 mobs still up, but for some reason the adds didnt reach you until CT was nearly dead. I have been told that this bug has been fixed though, and will soon make it in.
We pulled CT with 12 mobs up and our pro CC team handled them all, they were in camp less than 30seconds after CT was pulled. Call it a trick if you want, we saw it as our best chance to secure the kill under FTE rules.
Skope
08-30-2010, 07:45 PM
I know you're going to be swamped by divinity members right now, but frankly you deserve it.
Coming from a guild who's guild leader cheated and accusing us of dirty tactics is laughable. We had fraps running pretty much the entire raid, so any accusation you have is wrong and can actually be proven wrong, whereas you're just spewing lies. We did kill CT with quite a few mobs up, but i can guarantee you that there was no "bug" exploiting and CT was doing absolutely everything he was supposed to and we can provide proof of this.
We never had anyone die during the few times you wiped to your own temple pulls, and the rogue that was near your camp was always oor and keeping eyes on what you were doing. The rogue never died and never had aggro, so that's completely false.
We zoned in shortly after you did iirc, and we took a different path, all 3 guilds clearing the appropriate mobs. Everytime we aggro'd draco or a golem it was with the intent to kill, and bear in mind that every golem/ct/draco aggro that's non-intentional affects every guild in the same manner. Everyone's gotta clear that hate list, not just the two guilds who didn't aggro.
I've spoken with a few of your former members, WI that is, and have heard that you guys spent a lot of time accusing us of a lot of crap and I can safely say that you're the only guild to ever do so. Divinity isn't going to back-track on its principles just to screw you over, we've got a lot more in mind than a single draco/CT kill.
Olorin
08-30-2010, 07:45 PM
This is completely false.
This is not, it was witnessed by the whole guild -- and we were talking about it in vent while your kiting of all the adds got dangerously close to our camp. It was then escalated to the server admins and I believe a code issue was found.
Skope
08-30-2010, 07:49 PM
This is not, it was witnessed by the whole guild -- and we were talking about it in vent while your kiting of all the adds got dangerously close to our camp. It was then escalated to the server admins and I believe a code issue was found.
apparently you have no idea how the encounter works, because the aggro isn't managed like a regular kite. Again, gab, you're talking out of your ass here. We have a few videos of the fight and can verify exactly what happened.
President
08-30-2010, 07:50 PM
This is not, it was witnessed by the whole guild -- and we were talking about it in vent while your kiting of all the adds got dangerously close to our camp. It was then escalated to the server admins and I believe a code issue was found.
*facepalm*
Trimm
08-30-2010, 07:53 PM
This is not, it was witnessed by the whole guild -- and we were talking about it in vent while your kiting of all the adds got dangerously close to our camp. It was then escalated to the server admins and I believe a code issue was found.
I have the entire fight on fraps. We have 12 adds (10 knights/warriors, 1 TT 1 Glare lord) in-camp as Cazic was at 91%. They were delt with, CT was killed and the remaining adds were all killed thereafter. If an admin wants to see the video, I'll gladly link it to them.
Bones
08-30-2010, 07:55 PM
This is not, it was witnessed by the whole guild -- and we were talking about it in vent while your kiting of all the adds got dangerously close to our camp. It was then escalated to the server admins and I believe a code issue was found.
I never said we didn't kite them. I was saying your accusations of the 15 adds not coming immediately were false, because they certainly did.
Barfight
08-30-2010, 07:59 PM
That video will not be released to the public, ever. Anyway, Gab, we did something that to the layman would seem impossible. It'll be alright /comfort. End of discussion from our part.
Taluvill
08-30-2010, 08:00 PM
We pulled CT with 12 mobs up and our pro CC team handled them all, they were in camp less than 30seconds after CT was pulled. Call it a trick if you want, we saw it as our best chance to secure the kill under FTE rules.
If it helps, When I was with DA, we killed CT with like (i think)54 people at 54 seconds or something quite close to that?
So, if the mobs came in in under less than 30 seconds, then they would have had to CC a lot of things.
Icecometus
08-31-2010, 02:11 AM
Listening to Gab's arguments reminds me of watching Fox News.
Bubbles
08-31-2010, 03:30 AM
lol @ the last half dozen pages.. Of all the places i saw this thread going, Anti-Divinity wasn't even on the meter.
Trolls never fail to surprise.
liveitup1216
08-31-2010, 03:51 AM
This thread bores me, soooo consider it hijacked.
What kind of pie is your favorite? I prefer apple, classic and delicious. :)
stormiejs
08-31-2010, 03:52 AM
This thread is getting all of the traffic.
WTB Runed Bolster Belt, pst.
Icecometus
08-31-2010, 04:43 AM
What kind of pie is your favorite? :)
Humble pie ;)
Goobles
08-31-2010, 05:55 AM
This thread bores me, soooo consider it hijacked.
What kind of pie is your favorite? I prefer apple, classic and delicious. :)
OMG!!!
Blueberry.
...Raren
08-31-2010, 08:00 AM
What kind of pie is your favorite? I prefer apple, classic and delicious. :)
Pumpkin pie!!!
azeth
08-31-2010, 08:06 AM
pizza pie!
edit: ^first is the worst
or cherry pie! 2nd place!
Uaellaen
08-31-2010, 08:21 AM
american pie!!
Aadill
08-31-2010, 08:25 AM
american pie!!
Clever girl
Gorroth
08-31-2010, 08:26 AM
Divinity is made of fine people but they're not casual. Raiding at 5-8am isn't casual. =x
Supreme
08-31-2010, 09:28 AM
BTW i started the DT script on the last CT kill.
oops my bad~.
Harrison
08-31-2010, 09:32 AM
Divinity is made of fine people but they're not casual. Raiding at 5-8am isn't casual. =x
Your 5-8am could be someone's noon. *facepalm*
Nedala
08-31-2010, 10:09 AM
Your 5-8am could be someone's noon. *facepalm*
Since divinity is an US guild, and gorroth is welll aware of the time zones, its not ;) *facepalm*
Trimm
08-31-2010, 10:27 AM
BTW i started the DT script on the last CT kill.
oops my bad~.
CHEATERS!! :)
We don't consider ourselves a hardcore raiding guild because no one is required to raid. Like most guilds, we have a system for letting everyone know when something spawns, but its not required to respond. We have people who track for a long time on rangers, but again its not required. They do it on their own because killing dragons is fun.
Virtuosos
08-31-2010, 11:05 AM
must say, it wasnt fun going for vox last night....3guilds all trying to leapfrog and clear the fastest, half the guild accidently gets knocked into pit, giants and wolves get trained onto each other, vox gets all the way to the damn ZONE line (pretty damn close atleast)
what the hell am i saying, it was fun as hell!
*edit* oh guess what? 15pages and we still are not moved to rants and flames, good job guys keep it up!
xorbier
08-31-2010, 11:27 AM
You obviously still have no clue how we beat the Spiroc Lord and you probably never will. I encourage anyone who thinks that pets can beat that boss to go and try it. Your entire argument revolves around the fact that because something wasn't done 10 years ago, it can't be done now. Have you ever thought that just maybe the benefit of hindsight and experience, both in this MMO and others, could lead to something impressive? Probably not.
Have you ever thought that this server isn't 100% live as PROVEN by the issues with islands 5-7? You probably never will understand this. Yes, your hindsight and experience has led you all to be the top everquest guild to ever play and accomplish what no others have! You're right, I didn't think of this and concede the point!
You sir are arrogant. Anyways, I'm done. Don't you have Divinity to worry about?
Gwence
08-31-2010, 02:08 PM
must say, it wasnt fun going for vox last night....3guilds all trying to leapfrog and clear the fastest, half the guild accidently gets knocked into pit, giants and wolves get trained onto each other, vox gets all the way to the damn ZONE line (pretty damn close atleast)
what the hell am i saying, it was fun as hell!
*edit* oh guess what? 15pages and we still are not moved to rants and flames, good job guys keep it up!
who won?
Icecometus
08-31-2010, 02:16 PM
DA Killed the bugged Vox after quite a long fight, gratz :)
Izzni
08-31-2010, 02:27 PM
That Vox kill of DA was pretty impressive. I think she CHed like 50 times. I'm curious as to whether that was their normal strat, or if they realized something was screwed up when she CHed 8 plus times when Divinity gave it a shot and adapted their strat. In either case, it was well played.
Mountaineer
08-31-2010, 03:47 PM
We just chain petted her until she was OOM :-)
guineapig
08-31-2010, 03:50 PM
We just chain petted her until she was OOM :-)
http://www.baxterboo.com/catdogblog/assets/content//pet-hyena.jpg
Humerox
08-31-2010, 03:53 PM
I wasn't there, but I heard it was loads of fun. She popped three hours after my watch, and I was snoozing. Grats to DA on taking the biznitch down, lol.
Starklen
08-31-2010, 03:57 PM
Have you ever thought that this server isn't 100% live as PROVEN by the issues with islands 5-7? You probably never will understand this. Yes, your hindsight and experience has led you all to be the top everquest guild to ever play and accomplish what no others have! You're right, I didn't think of this and concede the point!
You sir are arrogant. Anyways, I'm done. Don't you have Divinity to worry about?
Spoken like someone who hasn't killed a single boss past island 4 and never will.
Cyrano
08-31-2010, 04:03 PM
must say, it wasnt fun going for vox last night....3guilds all trying to leapfrog and clear the fastest, half the guild accidently gets knocked into pit, giants and wolves get trained onto each other, vox gets all the way to the damn ZONE line (pretty damn close atleast)
what the hell am i saying, it was fun as hell!
*edit* oh guess what? 15pages and we still are not moved to rants and flames, good job guys keep it up!
Started reading that and was like "uhhh" but then I was like "yeahhhhh". If you just get shit uncontested it's no where near as much fun as when you have to perform perfectly or risk losing the encounter.
xorbier
08-31-2010, 04:26 PM
Spoken like someone who hasn't killed a single boss past island 4 and never will.
I love it when you talk dirty to me.
Virtuosos
08-31-2010, 04:30 PM
pfft, she only superior healed it looked like, 38% to 68% like 15 times....we had a member in teamspeak reading off percentages from 45%, 44%,43%,42%,41%,40%,39%,38%,68%,67% ......
but maybe i just consider a complete heal a 100% heal :$
and i must apologize to the low levels in there trying to kill....i cant ever recall xping in permafrost, but i have to assume seeing a giant dragon wing through a wall, being AoE feared, then being stambled upon by the running ice giants and TT's to the zoneline is not a regular occurance :$
Humerox
08-31-2010, 04:43 PM
She always CH's. You forget how much HP she has. ;)
Skope
08-31-2010, 04:44 PM
pfft, she only superior healed it looked like, 38% to 68% like 15 times....we had a member in teamspeak reading off percentages from 45%, 44%,43%,42%,41%,40%,39%,38%,68%,67% ......
but maybe i just consider a complete heal a 100% heal :$
and i must apologize to the low levels in there trying to kill....i cant ever recall xping in permafrost, but i have to assume seeing a giant dragon wing through a wall, being AoE feared, then being stambled upon by the running ice giants and TT's to the zoneline is not a regular occurance :$
haha, somehow there was at least 4-5 trains to ZL that day, including vox being in king room once. Apparently she was bugged though, and reverting the pushback certainly didn't help anyone's cause.
Aadill
08-31-2010, 04:47 PM
CH on a boss raid mob isn't 100% :)
Uthgaard
08-31-2010, 04:53 PM
[Tue Aug 31 00:20:21 2010] Lady Vox begins to cast a spell. (Complete Healing)
[Tue Aug 31 00:21:14 2010] Lady Vox begins to cast a spell. (Complete Healing)
[Tue Aug 31 00:22:05 2010] Lady Vox begins to cast a spell. (Complete Healing)
[Tue Aug 31 00:23:00 2010] Lady Vox begins to cast a spell. (Complete Healing)
[Tue Aug 31 00:23:56 2010] Lady Vox begins to cast a spell. (Complete Healing)
[Tue Aug 31 00:24:39 2010] Lady Vox begins to cast a spell. (Complete Healing)
[Tue Aug 31 00:25:37 2010] Lady Vox begins to cast a spell. (Complete Healing)
[Tue Aug 31 00:26:22 2010] Lady Vox begins to cast a spell. (Complete Healing)
[Tue Aug 31 00:27:22 2010] Lady Vox begins to cast a spell. (Complete Healing)
[Tue Aug 31 00:28:22 2010] Lady Vox begins to cast a spell. (Complete Healing)
[Tue Aug 31 00:29:32 2010] Lady Vox begins to cast a spell. (Complete Healing)
[Tue Aug 31 00:30:16 2010] Lady Vox begins to cast a spell. (Complete Healing)
[Tue Aug 31 00:31:59 2010] Lady Vox begins to cast a spell. (Complete Healing)
[Tue Aug 31 00:34:02 2010] Lady Vox begins to cast a spell. (Complete Healing)
[Tue Aug 31 00:36:04 2010] Lady Vox begins to cast a spell. (Complete Healing)
[Tue Aug 31 00:37:28 2010] Lady Vox begins to cast a spell. (Complete Healing)
[Tue Aug 31 00:38:46 2010] Lady Vox begins to cast a spell. (Complete Healing)
[Tue Aug 31 00:40:15 2010] Lady Vox begins to cast a spell. (Complete Healing)
[Tue Aug 31 00:41:52 2010] Lady Vox begins to cast a spell. (Complete Healing)
[Tue Aug 31 00:43:12 2010] Lady Vox begins to cast a spell. (Complete Healing)
[Tue Aug 31 00:45:32 2010] Lady Vox begins to cast a spell. (Complete Healing)
[Tue Aug 31 00:47:34 2010] Lady Vox begins to cast a spell. (Complete Healing)
[Tue Aug 31 00:47:57 2010] Lady Vox begins to cast a spell. (Complete Healing)
[Tue Aug 31 00:48:47 2010] Lady Vox begins to cast a spell. (Complete Healing)
[Tue Aug 31 00:49:03 2010] Lady Vox begins to cast a spell. (Complete Healing)
[Tue Aug 31 00:49:33 2010] Lady Vox begins to cast a spell. (Complete Healing)
Humerox
08-31-2010, 05:00 PM
That's a buncha damn CH's, lol.
Rogean
08-31-2010, 05:04 PM
complete heal is 7500 hp, vox has 32000
Humerox
08-31-2010, 05:07 PM
I meant from the perspective of interrupts. Was she not being interrupted? Wasn't there so I don't know about the push changes if any...guess she could have been walled and was chaining, lol.
Samuel
08-31-2010, 05:22 PM
rofl @ 26 CH's
Virtuosos
08-31-2010, 05:35 PM
he was never interrupted as far as i know, it was like clockwork lol. and i refuse to call complete heals on dragons a complete heal! its like a spectacular heal if anything, complete SO indicates fully healing your hp :/
i like to pick my battles on pointless ideas.....someone has to stand up for them >.<
Rejuvenation
08-31-2010, 07:42 PM
he was never interrupted as far as i know, it was like clockwork lol. and i refuse to call complete heals on dragons a complete heal! its like a spectacular heal if anything, complete SO indicates fully healing your hp :/
i like to pick my battles on pointless ideas.....someone has to stand up for them >.<
But thats what the spell that she is casting is called...
If someone casts spirit of wolf on me, I wouldn't say oh thanks for casting Journeyman's Boots on me, simply because of the fact I don't personally feel like a wolf...
mastagee
08-31-2010, 08:14 PM
complete heal is 7500 hp, vox has 32000
How come complete heal isn't 10000 hp per classic? Was nerfed to 7500 when POP was released because many tanks were surpassing 10k hp.
anthony210
08-31-2010, 08:18 PM
Poopsocking is back!
President
08-31-2010, 08:39 PM
How come complete heal isn't 10000 hp per classic? Was nerfed to 7500 when POP was released because many tanks were surpassing 10k hp.
I thought it was more too, but wasn't positive.
xorbier
08-31-2010, 08:53 PM
Update:
DA has killed Vox, Naggy, and Draco this week. They are now the #6th guild on the server.
Virtuosos
08-31-2010, 08:58 PM
something we should worry about more than CH numbers is that /y doesnt work
/Y DOES NOT WORK =(!!!
Taluvill
08-31-2010, 09:05 PM
last time I did Vox, slam and bash were interrupting her CH's. Was this fixed? because I'm sure it would be somewhat easy to interrupt her with a few shamans and a few good war tanks/paladins/large races?
whitebandit
08-31-2010, 10:17 PM
Update:
DA has killed Vox, Naggy, and Draco this week. They are now the #6th guild on the server.
and innoruuk you missed that..
Bashee_Feind
08-31-2010, 10:20 PM
Divinity ran their characters up and logged out. a couple at a time. Trying to sneak in for the kill fully buffed. Divinity was basically doing the same thing, just sitting on different characters. DA was only sitting there for a few hours. Haters gonna hate. I think it's worth to sit at a target for a few hours. Isn't it basically the same idea as someone camping fbss? I mean, sometimes it takes days to get one. Is that considered poopsocking?
Would you sit for a few hours for a chance for an rbb? If you say no, I don't believe you.
Hasbinbad
08-31-2010, 10:42 PM
The amount of hyperbole and disinformation in this thread.. ..staggering to behold.. ..words cannot explain.
I'm all verklempt, talk amongst yourselves.
http://mchenrycountyblog.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/Talk-Amongst-Yourselves-Mike-Myers-250x300.png
girth
09-01-2010, 12:25 AM
Have you ever thought that this server isn't 100% live as PROVEN by the issues with islands 5-7? You probably never will understand this. Yes, your hindsight and experience has led you all to be the top everquest guild to ever play and accomplish what no others have! You're right, I didn't think of this and concede the point!
You sir are arrogant. Anyways, I'm done. Don't you have Divinity to worry about?
Have you ever thought how many guilds actually could do that shit now 10-11 years later? Nobody gets the chance to, so how would you know whether it's possible? YOU WOULDN'T. How much longer have we had to farm dragon/gods then guilds did back then? They didn't have half a dozen or more decked out tanks I can bet on that. I guarantee you there are guilds on live right now given our exact situation would probably be further than us, we aren't trying to claim best guild ever or anything...its a fucking EMU server dude. We can only compete with others on our server.
So just keep talking out your ass about how stuff you can't do is impossible, so therefore we're cheating or the server is too easy. In fact, I heard bum doesn't even believe we killed the bee boss and thinks we used the key exploit ROFL. Some stuff was too easy, it was reported and changed for the most part - what more can we do about it than that? Some stuff was too hard though as well. Hello all the hours we spent on buffed Lord. You act like we want stuff to be different than it was. We just want to kill bosses...and when we work extremely hard at something, I personally don't want to hear morons like you try to diminish the value of what was accomplished.
So I guess i'll close by saying: if you think it's so easy, why don't you do it?
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