Simple way to close down all the Casinos

[Bboboo]

/ignore

[Rhambuk]

i have over 25 people on my ignore because of casino.

the only thing is i dont want to have to put half the server on ignore becuase some spamhappy jackass's like to rip people off in tunnel. But hey, thats my problem isnt it?

[Swish]

That's better known as burying your head in the sand.

People still get scammed whether you're looking or not ;)

[Rhambuk]

i thought this was one of those "if you don't like casino's" ignore it and quietly let them go about scamming nooby posts.

[Whirled]

Who has any time to stand in a tunnel & /ran # ?
One should be out exploring; like a good adventurer.

There was a server that had a lotto bot (( maybe more than 1?)). U handed it obscene # plats for a RNG chance to win X. Maybe if the chances aren't slim to none; that may be a partial solution to allow said activities; and maybe with other certain limitations.

[Clark]

That's better known as burying your head in the sand.

People still get scammed whether you're looking or not ;)

[Whirled]

Was it more or less shady back pre item link time when people would:::

/auction "Selling 3 bags of stuff near T1"
or "selling all on me near Shady"

you got the bags in your inventory screen to choose through what people wanted so people saw what they wanted & made offers to buy/sell/trade*

[Lopretni]

That's better known as burying your head in the sand.

People still get scammed whether you're looking or not ;)

How does it affect me if there are morons on this server willing to get baited by such an obvious scam? It isn't my plat going down the tube.

[Haynar]

Casinos == Scam or RMT typically.

Maybe we need /random to not work in EC?

H

[Olscratch]

1 guy got scammed so all casinos are a scam or RMT now?

[Aveenia]

Ignore lists are of limited size, I don't want to have to waste precious space with annoying casino spam.

Honestly, I was a little surprised the first time I saw them that they are legal on this server. On the 2 original Live servers I was on those things never existed.

[Lisset]

Casinos == Scam or RMT typically.

Maybe we need /random to not work in EC?

H

You normally piss me off with your nerf-happy ways but I think that's the best thing I've read in a while.

[nectarprime]

1 guy got scammed so all casinos are a scam or RMT now?

I for one have faith that the developer for p99 has a better knowledge of these things than we do.

[Olscratch]

Well, glad you have faith but I've been running a legit casino for 4 years and have only known of 2 bad actors (Richgirl, Arrowed) so it sounds like hes casting a net too big.

Outlaw randoms in EC and you'll still have gamblers spamming (no more often than unclassic item links usually) in EC to come to NRO tunnel for gambling.

People making mountains out of a molehill. Even the (1) guy who got scammed said he wants no one banned and thinks outlawing gambling would be a terrible outcome.

[myriverse]

I don't think legit casinos in NRO would be such a bad thing. Apart from the scams, the spam is what annoys people trying to buy/sell. So, taking it elsewhere would solve that.

[Haynar]

You normally piss me off with your nerf-happy ways but I think that's the best thing I've read in a while.

I am not nerf happy. Just nerf friendly. And most of the nerfs are just working off things on the master list of things to do.

H

[Haynar]

I for one have faith that the developer for p99 has a better knowledge of these things than we do.

Actually on RMT and scam realm, I wouldn't. GMs would. I dont even sit in gm channel or have access to some of their stuff or tool.

It would be the perfect mechanism for RMT though. Lose. 100pp goes over. Lose. 100 plat. Win. Woot, i bet big, 20k winner. Doh!

H

[GnashingOfTeeth]

Simple, no intervention on casino's of any type, you lose, tough shit, you get nothing.
After a few bad burns the idiots will stop touching the hot stove.

[Rec]

I don't deny anyone their own stupidity but put them in their own chat channel so I don't even have to type ignore.

[Bruno]

I don't agree with banning all casinos either, even though it will solve a lot of problems for the guides.

What I do agree with is making an example out of the people who scam. Ban all of the dude's accounts if he did scam and it wasn't just his power that went out due to tropical storm /q, and call it a day.

I honestly believe people are scamming because there seems to be this perception that there will be no consequences. Instead of this grey area that seems to be lingering, implement a strict no scam policy, and be done with it. A guaranteed ban of all accounts is going to limit the number of petitions related to this crap in the future.

[Olscratch]

I honestly believe people are scamming because there seems to be this perception that there will be no consequences.

This scenario isn't even remotely happening. There's been 1 scam, not an epidemic like you portray. And it wasn't even a legit scamming, more like a rip-off. Arrowed had been running a legit casino for weeks and had paid out a Cloak of Flames and Fungi x2 already. He lost 2 fungi's within 24 hours and made a terrible decision for which HE ALONE should be punished.

Again just for clarity, This was once instance - and it was not some level 1 casino no one had never heard of running a complete fraud. He was wearing a CoF and Fungi and had legitimately paid out both of those items recently. There is no widespread scamming. This entire thing seems to be solely about spam purists who only want to see un-classic item links, and imaginative GMs musing about RMT possibilities with a casino.

[Bruno]

This scenario isn't even remotely happening. There's been 1 scam, not an epidemic like you portray. And it wasn't even a legit scamming, more like a rip-off. Arrowed had been running a legit casino for weeks and had paid out a Cloak of Flames and Fungi x2 already. He lost 2 fungi's within 24 hours and made a terrible decision for which HE ALONE should be punished.

Again just for clarity, This was once instance - and it was not some level 1 casino no one had never heard of running a complete fraud. He was wearing a CoF and Fungi and had legitimately paid out both of those items recently. There is no widespread scamming. This entire thing seems to be solely about spam purists who only want to see un-classic item links, and imaginative GMs musing about RMT possibilities with a casino.

You obviously didn't read my post thoroughly if that's your response to my post.

I never stated there was any epidemic as you just decided to make up on your own. If anything I should have posted my post in the other thread, I just didn't see it there, but was more replying to your post to benefit you and other legit casinos.

Enforcing a strict no scam policy not only benefits the legit casinos, there's a good chance it would have prevented this situation completely. There's always going to be that person who is dumb enough to still try and get away with it.

Tough if he made a bad decision. It's one he shouldn't have made. If you don't have the goods or plat you're promising people, or don't want to pay up, and you're still taking their money until you lose, it's a scam, and you should be punished for it. It's black and white.

[Haynar]

There were no casinos early on because the /random calc was in the client and could be altered.

Casinos ... Not Classic.

[Bruno]

There were no casinos early on because the /random calc was in the client and could be altered.

Casinos ... Not Classic.

I'll gladly trade that resist nerf reversal for the outlawing of casinos ;).

Or we can /rand 1000 for it.

[Haynar]

I'll gladly trade that resist nerf reversal for the outlawing of casinos ;).

Or we can /rand 1000 for it.

I already removed the min chance to resist code. Just not patched. Need to adjust root and charm break code still.

So what are you asking? Renerf resists?

H

[GnashingOfTeeth]

I don't agree with banning all casinos either, even though it will solve a lot of problems for the guides.

What I do agree with is making an example out of the people who scam. Ban all of the dude's accounts if he did scam and it wasn't just his power that went out due to tropical storm /q, and call it a day.

I honestly believe people are scamming because there seems to be this perception that there will be no consequences. Instead of this grey area that seems to be lingering, implement a strict no scam policy, and be done with it. A guaranteed ban of all accounts is going to limit the number of petitions related to this crap in the future.

I see your point, but one issue, this takes CSR time which sucks.
I say at their own risk, always forever, don't ban scammers.

Like I said enough burns, the kids will stop touching the hot stove.
Casino's dry up, as everyone is to afraid to use them. Problem solved.

[Whirled]

I already removed the min chance to resist code. Just not patched. Need to adjust root and charm break code still.

So what are you asking? Renerf resists?

H

I believe the word they were looking for was,

pras

Thank you and any/all staff for all that you do!

[Glenzig]

There were no casinos early on because the /random calc was in the client and could be altered.

Casinos ... Not Classic.

How early though?

[Swish]

Luclin (server) and Tholuxe... neither had a casino on them while I was there.

On the ezboard unofficial Tholuxe forum it got suggested about starting one and everyone jumped on them saying they'd get banned for it. Thought that was a widespread consensus for all servers but apparently "okay on some"? :p

[iruinedyourday]

Casinos == Scam or RMT typically.

Maybe we need /random to not work in EC?

H

But when you random in hhk you get fireworks!

[Haynar]

But when you random in hhk you get fireworks!

Make HHK only approved zone for casinos!!!

Brilliant.

H

[applesauce25r624]

how about you can only do casinos on kerra island ?

[Clark]

Go away spammer!

[Swish]

y'all need an off peak forum mod (for those now deleted posts)

[tanknspank]

How does it affect me if there are morons on this server willing to get baited by such an obvious scam? It isn't my plat going down the tube.
In most MMOs scamming is a punishable offense so it's not a far stretch for a new player to believe that people here will be punished if they don't deliver as advertised. Especialy since:

9. You may not defraud other players.

Fraud is defined as falsely representing one's intentions to make a gain at another's expense. Examples of this activity include, but are not limited to, using deception to deprive another player of items, slandering another player or impersonating them with the intention of causing harm to that player's reputation, or falsely representing one's identity in order to gain access to another player's account or account information.

Fraud in all transactions between players may result in disciplinary action when confirmed by a P99CSR.

This is not permission to not watch out for yourself during interactions with players. Players may still scam or defraud you on Project 1999. It is your responsibility to protect yourself. The player who scammed you may be subject to disciplinary action, but there is no guarantee you will get your items or PP back. It is in your best interest to be wary of other players.

Luclin (server) and Tholuxe... neither had a casino on them while I was there.

On the ezboard unofficial Tholuxe forum it got suggested about starting one and everyone jumped on them saying they'd get banned for it. Thought that was a widespread consensus for all servers but apparently "okay on some"? :p
When I was a guide on Tholuxe we were directed to instruct players who offered casinos (or any other kind of gambling) to stop. As much rule enforcement back then, it probably depended largely on how the senior GM felt about it, but my play servers (Rodcet, Lanys) didn't have casinos either.

[indiscriminate_hater]

teleport and bind all casino players next to a dragon....

this just in: every class C character now hosts a casino

[Pringles]

y'all need an off peak forum mod (for those now deleted posts)

This ^ This porn spam is over the top, cant even browse the forums at work anymore or at home with the kids around.

[Pringles]

You're on ignore jackass, you can stop posting now.

Edit: This was in regards to the porn spam thats now been deleted