PSA: Rogues/Bards/Monks and carpal tunnel...

[Swish]

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Since playing my rogue I started getting a tingling sensation in my left arm. Figured it was nothing at first, just something that would go away.

Turns out I picked up carpal tunnel syndrome (http://www.nhs.uk/conditions/Carpal-tunnel-syndrome/Pages/Whatisit.aspx).

How? Pressing 1 consistently when my backstab was close to refreshing, and doing that for every backstab in a 3-4 hour session for lots of sessions :rolleyes:

Luckily I haven't got it bad, but I just wanted to warn people who mash hotkeys on their keyboards that shit can and does happen to you :p

Please...be careful when playing EQ...

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[Oleris]

I just started a bard, I'm afraid of carpel tunnel already :(

[Emile]

backstab mapped to thumb button on mouse is the only way to play.

[Lopretni]

It develops due to repetitive muscle strain, try to rest your hand a different way or remap shit so you can lay your hand down different for a few hours.

[Klapton]

Age has something to do with this as well. My left hand was killing me after playing my Bard for a couple of hours. That didn't happen 14 years ago.

[blondeattk]

need to stay hydrated when playing eq.

I keep refilling a water bottle (with tap water) and try take drink every 8mins or so.

[Estu]

Personally I saw screw mashing backstab when it's close to refreshing; I just wait for it to refresh. This means my DPS is a little worse but oh well!

[Calabee]

took me like 5 years of barding before developping it.

Mine's severe though, on waiting list for surgery (they basically cut your wrist's nerves and re-attach it)

there's a reason i switched mains and sacced my bard heh

also you can feel pain and symptoms just from every day computer useage such as surfing / typing / moving mouse

[Portasaurus]

Age has something to do with this as well. My left hand was killing me after playing my Bard for a couple of hours. That didn't happen 14 years ago.

Just like someone who plays the same two songs on an actual guitar their whole life would probably develop a similar issue! Feel the RL immersion wash over you (and ruin previously perform-able physical activities!)

Related.... a friend wants to know ... what happens to people who sit in a tunnel all day for too long?

[zanderklocke]

I'm going to the doctor soon for my mouse wrist. I don't think I have carpal tunnel, but I believe I have a small cyst that's been irritated by the constant rotating the mouse to move in circles. My wrist has been feeling pretty sore over the past two weeks.

I had a cyst removed on my other wrist a few years ago, and the symptoms seem somewhat similar (I've had some others removed from random places.) I'm not super thrilled to have it removed because I won't be able to use my wrist at all for a few weeks/a month.

[gummab]

Wanking hand and you blame EQ,it's not right tell the truth.....

[Portasaurus]

Wanking hand and you blame EQ,it's not right tell the truth.....

lol those aren't cysts they're diddling achievements!!

[quido]

everquest made me a fat 450-pound mongoloid so I'm on the doctor's waiting list to get some help with that

[Cecily]

I started to get some symptoms when I got really into tradeskilling for a few months. Swish, I don't know how far progressed your carpal tunnels are, but these exercises (along with a break from the computer for a week) helped me out tremendously. I don't have symptoms anymore.

Really good video.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gTxQqu9USC4

If you can stop doing what it is that's specifically causing it, poor posture etc, and do execises regularly, it's possible to prevent full on carpal tunnel syndrome.
http://www.uwlax.edu/ehs/Ergonomics_Carpal_Tunnel.htm

http://www.uwlax.edu/ehs/images/cts.gif

Is it possible that jousting on red makes you hit your auto attack key too much? I know it's an issue with bards. Consider getting a mouse with programmable hotkeys on the side. Those things will save your wrists.

[Sidelle]

took me like 5 years of barding before developping it.

Mine's severe though, on waiting list for surgery (they basically cut your wrist's nerves and re-attach it)

there's a reason i switched mains and sacced my bard heh

also you can feel pain and symptoms just from every day computer useage such as surfing / typing / moving mouse

How long do people in Canada generally sit on a waiting list in need of surgery for a severe case of anything? That seems messed up. Are you guys short on doctors or something?

[Rivthis]

How long do people in Canada generally sit on a waiting list in need of surgery for a severe case of anything? That seems messed up. Are you guys short on doctors or something?

Welcome to socialized medicine, where those that don't have to pay, use 50% more, than those that have to actually pay for it.

[Rec]

/melody is the one thing allowed in that's not classic.

[Swish]

I started to get some symptoms when I got really into tradeskilling for a few months. Swish, I don't know how far progressed your carpal tunnels are, but these exercises (along with a break from the computer for a week) helped me out tremendously. I don't have symptoms anymore.

Thanks, I'll give those a go. I stopped playing my rogue for about 2-3 months and noticed that the symptoms have started to go away. It's still there but it isn't as bad.

Cautiously went back to my rogue last week and was careful not to spam backstab...did feel the tingling sensation up my left forearm again a bit more so going to have to just do it in moderation.... got a cleric and necro to get to 60 on blue as well, they're much easier :)

As for jousting on red its not too intensive on the buttons. I've only got a monk there that falls into that category - enchanter/cleric/wizard are all fine :)

[Lune]

Welcome to socialized medicine, where those that don't have to pay, use 50% more, than those that have to actually pay for it.

And then there's American medicine, where everyone pays 200% more.

[Cecily]

Consider putting backstab on 2. Hitting 1 constantly is probably straining your hand.

1 auto attack
2 backstab (hit this when it pops dont spam it!)
3 evade (at off, hide, at on)
4 assist
5 hide
6 sneak
7 mrylo bp / bind wound
8 range attack
9 duelist
0 clicky swap slot

[Swish]

Funnily I'm not far off that setup :D

Q is my auto-attack
1 BS
2 evade
3 hide
4 sneak
(then it gets sketchy)
8 swap slot
9 assist
0 sit :p

I'll have a play around... the worst thing is getting used to a new setup but you're right its probably for the best ;)

[iruinedyourday]

How long do people in Canada generally sit on a waiting list in need of surgery for a severe case of anything? That seems messed up. Are you guys short on doctors or something?

Just so you don't get things mixed up the wait list is for elected free medical care. :)

[Masq]

you got carpal from pressing backstab? ya okay..

[Kekephee]

I started to get some symptoms when I got really into tradeskilling for a few months. Swish, I don't know how far progressed your carpal tunnels are, but these exercises (along with a break from the computer for a week) helped me out tremendously. I don't have symptoms anymore.

Really good video.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gTxQqu9USC4

If you can stop doing what it is that's specifically causing it, poor posture etc, and do execises regularly, it's possible to prevent full on carpal tunnel syndrome.
http://www.uwlax.edu/ehs/Ergonomics_Carpal_Tunnel.htm

http://www.uwlax.edu/ehs/images/cts.gif

Is it possible that jousting on red makes you hit your auto attack key too much? I know it's an issue with bards. Consider getting a mouse with programmable hotkeys on the side. Those things will save your wrists.


Play bard, get carpal tunnel, learn kung fu to cure it


I'm pretty sure I started to get carpal tunnel a couple weeks ago. I slowed my EQ down a fucking ton for two or three weeks and feel a lot better. I may also have just inflamed a tendon lifting weights or something. We'll never know.

[iruinedyourday]

I threw my back out table flipping when I had to hat out of lower guk

[SyanideGas]

Consider putting backstab on 2. Hitting 1 constantly is probably straining your hand.

1 auto attack
2 backstab (hit this when it pops dont spam it!)
3 evade (at off, hide, at on)
4 assist
5 hide
6 sneak
7 mrylo bp / bind wound
8 range attack
9 duelist
0 clicky swap slot

1-3 is exactly where i have all of those lol. Except 1 is assist!
My wrist feels fine btw Swish, after 4 years of rogueing

[Clark]

also you can feel pain and symptoms just from every day computer useage such as surfing / typing / moving mouse

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[Atmas]

I felt some symptoms doing trade skills and factioning quests. I would suggest not spamming the bs button unless doing a raid mob.