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Oleris
08-11-2014, 07:00 PM
Sad day :(

khanable
08-11-2014, 07:01 PM
sad day indeed..

hatelore
08-11-2014, 07:03 PM
Oh wow, no hoax? Very sad day indeed...

Kimmie
08-11-2014, 07:05 PM
My mom posted it on FB, so I assumed it had to be a hoax...nope :(

Man :(

Tameth
08-11-2014, 07:06 PM
really sad. one of my favorites

Pringles
08-11-2014, 07:09 PM
Grew up watching a lot of his stuff, he will be missed. Sounds like he was battling severe depression, pretty unfortunate :(

Red_Psyphon
08-11-2014, 07:11 PM
RIP

Aveenia
08-11-2014, 07:12 PM
Not a hoax. Likely suicide from what i have read. he was a genius, damn his fucked brain chemistry.

Lune
08-11-2014, 07:16 PM
Depression is a bitch

Itap
08-11-2014, 07:19 PM
=/

mtb tripper
08-11-2014, 07:24 PM
real sad man

Visual
08-11-2014, 07:25 PM
I would like very much so to comfort his daughter Zelda

Tasslehofp99
08-11-2014, 07:26 PM
this is pretty shocking I gotta say



rip to him

sulpher01
08-11-2014, 07:29 PM
=((

Yumyums Inmahtumtums
08-11-2014, 07:30 PM
Rip mrs doubtfire 2

Tasslehofp99
08-11-2014, 07:31 PM
Rip mrs doubtfire 2

and countless other classic characters; guy was a legend imo


deffinetly made me laugh a shitload over the years

SamwiseRed
08-11-2014, 07:33 PM
rip the pan

KagatobLuvsAnimu
08-11-2014, 07:35 PM
One of the greats is gone, before his time.

For once I agree with Lulzsect.
http://0-media-cdn.foolz.us/ffuuka/board/a/image/1333/06/1333064942541.jpg

Salamarr
08-11-2014, 08:30 PM
WTB Res and complete heal for Robin Williams. :(

Locust
08-11-2014, 08:51 PM
Rip

Kekephee
08-11-2014, 09:12 PM
I would like very much so to comfort his daughter Zelda

I've had a life dream to marry her and then she brings me to her parents' house for dinner and I'm like "Zelda, baby, you know I love you so much, you're my world, my sun and stars, but holy fuck that is ROBIN WILLIAMS and I absolutely can't pay any attention to you tonight"


ruined, no point marrying her anymore

radditsu
08-11-2014, 09:21 PM
http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B008S7FPIY?pc_redir=1407399362&robot_redir=1


Anyway louie season 3 ep 6. Do ittt

Kekephee
08-11-2014, 09:26 PM
That episode was so good

BigLe2e
08-11-2014, 09:39 PM
Hes not dead, someone just needs to roll a 5 or an 8

Sirken
08-11-2014, 09:39 PM
RIP :(

freez
08-11-2014, 09:45 PM
you know what sucks even worse?

red is dead

Gaffin 7.0
08-11-2014, 10:03 PM
Depression is a bitch

yep

jarshale
08-11-2014, 10:06 PM
rip in peace

BattleToad
08-11-2014, 10:08 PM
Hes not dead, someone just needs to roll a 5 or an 8

heh

:(

Clark
08-11-2014, 10:20 PM
WTB Res and complete heal for Robin Williams. :(

Ahldagor
08-11-2014, 10:43 PM
nanu nanu

FoxxHound
08-11-2014, 11:02 PM
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOooooooooooooooooooooo oooo

I actually like most of his stuff :(

Susvain2
08-12-2014, 12:26 AM
he was also a joke thief. couldnt write his own shit so he like to steal it

KagatobLuvsAnimu
08-12-2014, 12:52 AM
he was also a joke thief. couldnt write his own shit so he like to steal it

And then there's this asshole.

http://i.imgur.com/s6ynaXZ.jpg

And this one.

San
08-12-2014, 03:53 AM
I had so many questions for my parents after I saw The World According to Garp.

Susvain2
08-12-2014, 03:58 AM
Jumanji was still awesome

quido
08-12-2014, 04:42 AM
This one hurts - Robin Williams was great

RIP

Swish
08-12-2014, 05:51 AM
RIP mate, some good funnies over the years :D

Also...


Sad day :(

http://media.giphy.com/media/Dvw2lJqlTuJmo/giphy.gif

Oh wow, no hoax? Very sad day indeed...

http://media.giphy.com/media/Dvw2lJqlTuJmo/giphy.gif

really sad. one of my favorites

http://media.giphy.com/media/Dvw2lJqlTuJmo/giphy.gif

Depression is a bitch

http://media.giphy.com/media/Dvw2lJqlTuJmo/giphy.gif

I would like very much so to comfort his daughter Zelda

http://media.giphy.com/media/Dvw2lJqlTuJmo/giphy.gif

RIP :(

http://media.giphy.com/media/Dvw2lJqlTuJmo/giphy.gif

FUCK HIM PUSSY ASS *****

http://media.giphy.com/media/3uyIgVxP1qAjS/giphy.gif

Whirled
08-12-2014, 06:32 AM
Just saw him in this movie very recently - kinda ironic if you saw it.
http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/the_angriest_man_in_brooklyn/

Mockba1980
08-12-2014, 07:07 AM
Get a life rellapse...

Champion_Standing
08-12-2014, 07:25 AM
Jumanji was still awesome

Just watched that on netflix a few weeks ago actually, definitely still awesome.

RIP Bearded man.

Baler
08-12-2014, 07:33 AM
People take pictures of the happy moments in their lives.
Someone looking through our photo album would conclude that we had led a joyous, leisurely existence free of tragedy.
No one ever takes a photograph of something they want to forget.

Champion_Standing
08-12-2014, 07:39 AM
People take pictures of the happy moments in their lives.
Someone looking through our photo album would conclude that we had led a joyous, leisurely existence free of tragedy.
No one ever takes a photograph of something they want to forget.

http://static1.fjcdn.com/thumbnails/comments/4775371+_5fad4b2180af81894e26d487f44cde8c.jpg

Lopretni
08-12-2014, 08:49 AM
It's tragic that a man who brought unmeasurable amounts of joy to this horrible fucking planet had to go out in such a dark, lonely way. I hope he found peace from whatever it was that was haunting him. It's our job to try and make up for his loss, because the world is a much darker place without him.

Vyal
08-12-2014, 09:02 AM
Am I the only one that thinks this guy should not be cheered by everyone in the USA because he hung himself?

Portasaurus
08-12-2014, 09:10 AM
No one ever takes a photograph of something they want to forget.

Yesterday, while at Wendy's getting coffee, I saw an old man sitting all alone in the dining room.

It made me incredibly sad to think why he was there, all dressed up, all by himself. Maybe this is the place he used to come with his late Wife? Maybe he just has no friends and is slowly watching the clock on his limited time left? Was this all I had to look forward to in life?

I guess I didn't want to forget it.

http://i.imgur.com/LjneqpE.jpg

Lopretni
08-12-2014, 09:21 AM
Am I the only one that thinks this guy should not be cheered by everyone in the USA because he hung himself?

Yes because you're missing the point completely. Congratulations.

Archalen
08-12-2014, 09:27 AM
Am I the only one that thinks this guy should not be cheered by everyone in the USA because he hung himself?

He had a very bad drug problem. That can start very early in life before you have enough perspective to make mature choices, and then the physical addiction caused by a few bad choices can haunt you for the rest of your life. He was seeking help recently, but who knows how much damage it had done to him by then. Obviously a lot though; he must have been miserable. Sometimes things happen and they are really nobody's fault. So yes, we are allowed to celebrate his life. RIP.

Swish
08-12-2014, 11:04 AM
Yesterday, while at Wendy's getting coffee, I saw an old man sitting all alone in the dining room.

It made me incredibly sad to think why he was there, all dressed up, all by himself. Maybe this is the place he used to come with his late Wife? Maybe he just has no friends and is slowly watching the clock on his limited time left? Was this all I had to look forward to in life?

I guess I didn't want to forget it.

http://i.imgur.com/LjneqpE.jpg

Always make time for the elderly. I used to be a postman and was the highlight of ~25 people's days even if I only saw them briefly. A lot of them didn't have any visiting family and the warden who ran the place was a bitch.

Sad picture that, I'd sit down with him for a coffee.

Portasaurus
08-12-2014, 11:06 AM
Folks: Call your grandparents. Say hi. For me it has been way too long.

Thulack
08-12-2014, 11:35 AM
Not a hoax. Likely suicide from what i have read. he was a genius, damn his fucked brain chemistry.

Gaffin 7.0
08-12-2014, 11:54 AM
very smart people or with adhd tend to be addicts more than stupid people

Lictor
08-12-2014, 12:05 PM
Am I the only one that thinks this guy should not be cheered by everyone in the USA because he hung himself?

Suicide is the most selfish thing a man can do. Unlike thousands of other Americans who take their life, he at least had the means to get the best treatment money could afford to help with his demons.

Gaffin 7.0
08-12-2014, 12:28 PM
you're so smart ur dumb, is that wut ur saying fgt

anon account say wat

Gaffin 7.0
08-12-2014, 12:37 PM
Like how you put words in my mouth, never said that. If you dont believe my information though look it up its clear as day, most addicts are highly intelligent but i dont think you can really say anything when you are a stay at home gay guy growing weed.

r.i.p robin you was pal and made me laugh as a kid

Priceline
08-12-2014, 01:29 PM
sigh

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Buy0mzyCUAAAZb-.png:large

Bohab
08-12-2014, 02:35 PM
Robin williams died yesterday doing the plastic bag challenge to raise awareness for als. God bless his soul

myriverse
08-12-2014, 03:06 PM
Yesterday, while at Wendy's getting coffee, I saw an old man sitting all alone in the dining room.

It made me incredibly sad to think why he was there, all dressed up, all by himself. Maybe this is the place he used to come with his late Wife? Maybe he just has no friends and is slowly watching the clock on his limited time left? Was this all I had to look forward to in life?

I guess I didn't want to forget it.

http://i.imgur.com/LjneqpE.jpg
Meh. For all you know he's got an incredible fulfilling life with lots of company, and you just encountered him when he was finally able to get just a few minutes of peace and calm.

Solitude is great.

Gaffin 7.0
08-12-2014, 03:18 PM
you guys hear about family guy airing with the robin williams skit where he is cloned and suicides right before it happened? lol ironic 2nd time family guy has had that happen

Portasaurus
08-12-2014, 03:20 PM
omg so what you are saying is.... there is a RW clone out there somewhere? right now? cracking jokes?

KagatobLuvsAnimu
08-12-2014, 03:37 PM
Meh. For all you know he's got an incredible fulfilling life with lots of company, and you just encountered him when he was finally able to get just a few minutes of peace and calm.

Solitude is great.

I said that one when a woman was enjoying the view on an overpass.

drktmplr12
08-12-2014, 03:46 PM
http://s3.amazonaws.com/rapgenius/time-for-a-feel-trip_o_958270.jpg

Tenlaar
08-12-2014, 04:26 PM
Suicide is the most selfish thing a man can do.

Wrong, expecting somebody to continue living just because you don't want them gone is more selfish.

Lictor
08-12-2014, 04:35 PM
Wrong, expecting somebody to continue living just because you don't want them gone is more selfish.

So the children left without a father and the wife left without a husband are more selfish than the male who kills himself? That makes zero sense.

Glenzig
08-12-2014, 04:37 PM
Wrong, expecting somebody to continue living just because you don't want them gone is more selfish.

No its not. That's called love and affection which is completely natural. Its cruel to want someone to live? Get outta here!!!

JayN
08-12-2014, 04:39 PM
you guys hear about family guy airing with the robin williams skit where he is cloned and suicides right before it happened? lol ironic 2nd time family guy has had that happen

im with you on this one, thank you lord for taking him

Glenzig
08-12-2014, 04:39 PM
omg so what you are saying is.... there is a RW clone out there somewhere? right now? cracking jokes?

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=P0xuPXzBGrU

iruinedyourday
08-12-2014, 04:43 PM
Yesterday, while at Wendy's getting coffee, I saw an old man sitting all alone in the dining room.

It made me incredibly sad to think why he was there, all dressed up, all by himself. Maybe this is the place he used to come with his late Wife? Maybe he just has no friends and is slowly watching the clock on his limited time left? Was this all I had to look forward to in life?

I guess I didn't want to forget it.

http://i.imgur.com/LjneqpE.jpg

great now I want to commit suicide.

Danyelle
08-12-2014, 05:07 PM
Rarely do celeb deaths hit me but this really sucked :( RIP :(

Temig
08-12-2014, 05:22 PM
Not sure if many of you have seen "What Dream May Come", but I'd highly recommend it.

Tenlaar
08-12-2014, 06:16 PM
So the children left without a father and the wife left without a husband are more selfish than the male who kills himself? That makes zero sense.
Feeling that a person should continue to live regardless of said person's wishes because of how it would affect you is the more selfish, yes.


No its not. That's called love and affection which is completely natural. Its cruel to want someone to live? Get outta here!!!
Nobody said anything about cruel. Love and affection do not entail wanting somebody to continue to suffer simply because you prefer that over the lack of their presence.

baakss
08-12-2014, 06:31 PM
Depression is fairly common with comedians. It's typical to tell jokes in order to mask how you're feeling, but when you're expected to be funny, and people notice you're not being funny, they ask you what's wrong, etc.. So it becomes drilled into you that you have to be funny in order to not get a negative reaction.

Anyway, it reminds me of this video here... "I have to keep telling jokes because I'm a clown. And nobody wants to see the clown in pain because that's not funny."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qdBJ1X33rXM

Dizey
08-12-2014, 07:44 PM
Not sure if many of you have seen "What Dream May Come", but I'd highly recommend it.

and Patch Adams.

iruinedyourday
08-12-2014, 07:50 PM
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Visual
08-12-2014, 08:27 PM
Only Norm

http://www.theverge.com/2014/8/12/5995383/norm-macdonald-tweeted-our-favorite-robin-williams-remembrance-to-date

Oleris
08-13-2014, 12:31 AM
IDK who did this.....


http://i.imgur.com/2CEJJjH.jpg?1

Psionide
08-13-2014, 12:41 AM
You mean create Luclin models?

Pokesan
08-13-2014, 01:20 AM
just another name among our collective march towards death

http://i.imgur.com/qdl6eH3.png

Lopretni
08-13-2014, 07:02 AM
Nobody owes you shit. If someone does not want to continue their existence on this planet they don't have to.

Lictor
08-13-2014, 04:59 PM
Nobody owes you shit. If someone does not want to continue their existence on this planet they don't have to.

You are so hardcore!

Tasslehofp99
08-13-2014, 05:01 PM
just another name among our collective march towards death

http://i.imgur.com/qdl6eH3.png

why

Tenlaar
08-13-2014, 05:05 PM
There is nothing "hardcore" about it. Good attempt at dismissing the views of those who disagree with you though.

GnashingOfTeeth
08-13-2014, 05:14 PM
If you bring kids into this world, and take on a spouse who depends on you, yes I believe you have a duty to stay around. You may hurt, but dammit seek help, especially from those closest to you.
You may take your own life, but you will ruin others that you cherish so much. I grew up with Robin Williams and am very sad about his suicide. But when it comes down to it, for me you take on the responsibility when you make the call to propagate and marry.

Having suffered depression myself, its no light topic indeed.

I hope he finds rest, and his family can find comfort and solace.

Tenlaar
08-13-2014, 05:27 PM
If you bring kids into this world, and take on a spouse who depends on you, yes I believe you have a duty to stay around.

It's not like he left infants, his children are full grown adults and I'm pretty sure that his wife was as well.

GnashingOfTeeth
08-13-2014, 05:33 PM
It's not like he left infants, his children are full grown adults and I'm pretty sure that his wife was as well.

Adults or not, in my world the family bond just becomes stronger from birth to grave.
I am pretty sure it has absolutely crushed them and changed their lives forever. No one in their right mind would want that.

It's hard enough losing someone to natural causes you love, suicide makes it 10x worse in my experience, having lost a very good friend to the very thing.

Thus seek help, especially from those close to you if you can. Hopefully they will see your need and pain.

Its not debatable in my book if you think suicide is ok, we are on 2 different planes thought wise.

Tenlaar
08-13-2014, 05:39 PM
I am pretty sure it has absolutely crushed them and changed their lives forever. No one in their right mind would want that.

The whole point is that it's not about what other people want. Expecting somebody to continue living in pain just because other people don't want them gone is ridiculous.

Zaela
08-13-2014, 05:41 PM
lots of overreaction to this one

at least someone will make a profit off the old movie boom.

Glenzig
08-13-2014, 05:42 PM
The whole point is that it's not about what other people want. Expecting somebody to continue living in pain just because other people don't want them gone is ridiculous.

Its actually not though.

GnashingOfTeeth
08-13-2014, 05:46 PM
The whole point is that it's not about what other people want. Expecting somebody to continue living in pain just because other people don't want them gone is ridiculous.

Ok, I challenge you. Walk in to your group of close family if you have one (no insult intended if you do not) ask them how they would truly feel if you committed suicide.

Spend and hour, reflect on their reactions, and then decide.

Tenlaar
08-13-2014, 05:46 PM
Its actually not though.

Except it is.

Glenzig
08-13-2014, 05:50 PM
Except it is.

The person that takes their life is the only one who will never have to live with that choice.

Gaffin 7.0
08-13-2014, 05:53 PM
pretty sure he did seek help, it doesnt cure you 100 % just makes you feel better, rehab and all, we have no idea what he was mentally going through and it must have been alot, crazy pills just make it worse over time and are for only the really insane people who cant even do anything without harming others without them

Tenlaar
08-13-2014, 05:53 PM
Ok, I challenge you. Walk in to your group of close family if you have one (no insult intended if you do not) ask them how they would truly feel if you committed suicide.

Spend and hour, reflect on their reactions, and then decide.

I don't have to, I've had people commit and attempt suicide as well. You do not have a unique perspective on the issue.

I could say the same to you, though. Go ask a group of your close family how long they would expect you to continue living in mental or physical anguish, how long they would place more importance on themselves than the fact that you are unhappy and in pain.

Tenlaar
08-13-2014, 05:55 PM
The person that takes their life is the only one who will never have to live with that choice.

And the only person who would have to continue to live their shitty, unhappy life that they don't want any more if they stick around because some other people are afraid to deal with loss and/or unable to accept that people come and go in life and it is outside of their control.

Gaffin 7.0
08-13-2014, 05:56 PM
I don't have to, I've had people commit and attempt suicide as well. You do not have a unique perspective on the issue.

I could say the same to you, though. Go ask a group of your close family how long they would expect you to continue living in mental or physical anguish, how long they would place more importance on themselves than the fact that you are unhappy and in pain.

Yep

GnashingOfTeeth
08-13-2014, 06:00 PM
And the only person who would have to continue to live their shitty, unhappy life that they don't want any more if they stick around because some other people are afraid to deal with loss and/or unable to accept that people come and go in life and it is outside of their control.

Wish ya luck bro, like I said, 2 different planes of existence.

Glenzig
08-13-2014, 06:02 PM
And the only person who would have to continue to live their shitty, unhappy life that they don't want any more if they stick around because some other people are afraid to deal with loss and/or unable to accept that people come and go in life and it is outside of their control.

So they just need to suck it up? I'm not saying I know what everyone who commits suicide is going through, and lord knows this world is just too much for some people to deal with. But you're being extremely one sided in your viewpoint. It ruins peoples lives just as much, and sometimes more so, as any other form of death. Just because so.eone made the choice to kill themselves doesn't just magically remove the pain of losing a loved one. In most cases it makes it that much worse because immediate family members feel extreme guilt over not bring able to see it coming and help. It really just causes a cycle of depression and guilt.

KagatobLuvsAnimu
08-13-2014, 06:17 PM
I would like to point out that more likely than not, Robin Williams's family will eventually emotionally recover from their loss. Robin Williams himself was clearly not recovering from his ailment despite doing everything in his power to get help. To say that ending his life was selfish is not only wrong but it's a slap in the face to his family who will eventually come to terms with the fact that he is now at peace and that's all that there is.

Sidelle
08-13-2014, 06:42 PM
Thus seek help, especially from those close to you if you can. Hopefully they will see your need and pain.

Often, the people closest to the depressed person will become desensitized after dealing with it for years and years. It's sad but understandable but at that point it's not possible to get any real support from family. Most of them will eventually put their heads in the sand and pretend everything is fine because they want it to be.

That, in addition to not finding a doctor that can effectively treat an individual's brain chemistry issues, will definitely cause a deeper feeling of hopelessness. That's when they start wishing to die. A person considering suicide will often rationalize that their loved ones are better off without them.

Ultimately, they end up killing two birds with one stone. Ending their own pain and ending their family's pain too (in the long run). I believe they see that as being the lesser of two evils, since it creates an actual ending to it all. The initial pain will hurt but will be nowhere near the pain of watching a person with mental illness suffer til the day they die over years and years.

I'm not saying it's the right thing to do but I can understand why people do it.

Aviann
08-13-2014, 06:44 PM
Although I 90% agree with Gnashing, my only point against (and I have always felt this way), is that family and friends sometimes need to quit talking and start showing the love instead. Take it from experience. Others need to learn a bit more respect.

GnashingOfTeeth
08-13-2014, 06:54 PM
Often, the people closest to the depressed person will become desensitized after dealing with it for years and years. It's sad but understandable but at that point it's not possible to get any real support from family. Most of them will eventually put their heads in the sand and pretend everything is fine because they want it to be.

That, in addition to not finding a doctor that can effectively treat an individual's brain chemistry issues, will definitely cause a deeper feeling of hopelessness. That's when they start wishing to die. A person considering suicide will often rationalize that their loved ones are better off without them.

Ultimately, they end up killing two birds with one stone. Ending their own pain and ending their family's pain too (in the long run). I believe they see that as being the lesser of two evils, since it creates an actual ending to it all. The initial pain will hurt but will be nowhere near the pain of watching a person with mental illness suffer til the day they die over years and years.

I'm not saying it's the right thing to do but I can understand why people do it.

/Agreed. Good post.

GnashingOfTeeth
08-13-2014, 06:57 PM
Although I 90% agree with Gnashing, my only point against (and I have always felt this way), is that family and friends sometimes need to quit talking and start showing the love instead. Take it from experience. Others need to learn a bit more respect.

/Agreed as well, good post.

iruinedyourday
08-13-2014, 06:58 PM
Yea, sidelle is right.. also so is just facts and gnashing..

back to sad...

:(

GnashingOfTeeth
08-13-2014, 07:00 PM
Yea, sidelle is right.. also so is just facts and gnashing..

back to sad...

:(

Dont be sad, ya have friends here pal.

iruinedyourday
08-13-2014, 07:02 PM
one thing that made me happy was your thoughtful post and lil wayn avatar. :)

GnashingOfTeeth
08-13-2014, 07:18 PM
one thing that made me happy was your thoughtful post and lil wayn avatar. :)

I hope you have a great day.

iruinedyourday
08-13-2014, 08:36 PM
I laugh at you nutjobs from hell. Kill yourselves suicide is painless, take it from me, Robin Williams, David Carradine and I suck off Elliott Smith while Heath Ledger takes it up the ass from Ryan Dunn

http://psychcentral.com/lib/the-5-stages-of-loss-and-grief/000617

Leeyuuduu
08-14-2014, 01:20 AM
I'd kill myself too if I had to live in Marin County

KagatobLuvsAnimu
08-14-2014, 03:53 PM
They found out he was diagnosed with Parkinson's shortly before he ended his life. I'd kill myself too TBH, horrible way to go out. Anyone calling him selfish can suck me.

myriverse
08-14-2014, 04:03 PM
Yup-- better to end it on his own terms. Sometimes living is the most selfish thing you can do.

Evedas
08-15-2014, 12:14 PM
I look down on people ending on their own terms. That's being selfish, not the other way around. He's not the only one suffered from severe depression, alcoholism and other shitty psychological disorder.

Or maybe his goal in life is already fulfilled.

myriverse
08-15-2014, 12:35 PM
As someone who has watched too many friends and family waste away from too many diseases, I'm convinced that suicide for this reason is one of the most selfless acts a person can do. The alternative only causes more agony than there need be.

Evedas
08-15-2014, 12:46 PM
As someone who pulled through a tough time in the past, with severe depressions at time, and later watching my own uncle who had 2 small kids (not even in education yet), a wife and brain damage that caused him to never leave the house kill himself with alcohol, leaving much agony behind, the act of killing oneself is what I can never accept. Now his family is left for me and my family to take care of, the kids never get the teaching of their father.

I guess we have different perspective.

Tenlaar
08-15-2014, 01:13 PM
I look down on people ending on their own terms. That's being selfish, not the other way around. He's not the only one suffered from severe depression, alcoholism and other shitty psychological disorder.

Or maybe his goal in life is already fulfilled.

1. I don't want to subject myself or my loved ones to my slow deterioration and loss of who I am as a person, or the continued pain of my existence. You guys are going to have to go on without me.

2. I don't want you to leave yet so you should just put up with the physical and mental anguish that will come over the next years while you slowly whither and die before I have to deal with the same loss that will come in the end anyway.

Pick the more selfish stance.

KagatobLuvsAnimu
08-15-2014, 01:29 PM
I look down on people ending on their own terms. That's being selfish, not the other way around. He's not the only one suffered from severe depression, alcoholism and other shitty psychological disorder.

Or maybe his goal in life is already fulfilled.
Do you even know what Parkinson's disease is?
As someone who pulled through a tough time in the past, with severe depressions at time, and later watching my own uncle who had 2 small kids (not even in education yet), a wife and brain damage that caused him to never leave the house kill himself with alcohol, leaving much agony behind, the act of killing oneself is what I can never accept. Now his family is left for me and my family to take care of, the kids never get the teaching of their father.

I guess we have different perspective.

Your anecdote only proves that you have an illogical bias.

First off, for every one of you who are mad that he's dead, there's someone with a living alcoholic parent who wishes the parent was dead. Secondly, Robin Williams' children are adults now so your whole post is irrelevant anyway.

Evedas
08-15-2014, 01:38 PM
1. I don't want to subject myself or my loved ones to my slow deterioration and loss of who I am as a person, or the continued pain of my existence. You guys are going to have to go on without me.

I am weak-willed and does not have purpose in life anymore.

2. I don't want you to leave yet so you should just put up with the physical and mental anguish that will come over the next years while you slowly whither and die before I have to deal with the same loss that will come in the end anyway.

There is no hope inside me that you will recover and be who you should be.

That's being way too pessimistic for me to pick a stance.

Lictor
08-15-2014, 02:26 PM
1. I don't want to subject myself or my loved ones to my slow deterioration and loss of who I am as a person, or the continued pain of my existence. You guys are going to have to go on without me.

2. I don't want you to leave yet so you should just put up with the physical and mental anguish that will come over the next years while you slowly whither and die before I have to deal with the same loss that will come in the end anyway.

Pick the more selfish stance.

You are focusing on the wrong subjective thought process of the individual. Of course loved ones want to be with their parent/sibling/child as long as possible.

Number one is the selfish mentality. I don't want to deal with pain, I don't want to fight for only 10% chance to live, I don't want to go through surgery, I don't want to risk the unknown, I don't want to risk my memories, I don't want to go through chemo, me me me me me, etc...

Whether loved ones feel the above decision is right or wrong by the person commiting suicide is not relevant. The decision to go through with suicide is still selfish.

loramin
08-15-2014, 03:02 PM
This is a really long thread, so I didn't make it through the whole thing, but I just wanted to check: did anyone mention the fact that he played EQ back in the day?

loramin
08-15-2014, 03:45 PM
Ok, I made it through the whole thread and there's no mention of it, so I guess it's not very common knowledge.

My cousin used to be a GM at SOE ... granted it was for Star Wars Galaxies, but she helped GM for EQ sometimes, and her boyfriend at the time was a senior GM for Everquest. Anyhow, people there talked about famous people who played EQ, and one of those people was Robin Williams. I don't remember much else about it, just that he played a Wood Elf Ranger.

R.I.P. Robin Williams, a fellow classic Everquest gamer and an amazing comedian and actor.

Champion_Standing
08-16-2014, 10:11 AM
1. I don't want to subject myself or my loved ones to my slow deterioration and loss of who I am as a person, or the continued pain of my existence. You guys are going to have to go on without me.

2. I don't want you to leave yet so you should just put up with the physical and mental anguish that will come over the next years while you slowly whither and die before I have to deal with the same loss that will come in the end anyway.

Pick the more selfish stance.

You don't hang yourself while your wife sleeps in the next room because you are trying to avoid making her suffer.

Jenithia
08-16-2014, 10:46 AM
Loramin, I learned recently that he was way into Legend of Zelda (he named his daughter after the Princess) and that he also played WoW, Battlefield 2, Call of Duty, etc. So it wouldn't surprise me that he probably played EQ back in the day. Makes you wonder who you're actually guilded with huh? I wonder if he knew about P99 if he would have been interested in coming here for a somewhat classic experience.

loramin
08-16-2014, 12:07 PM
I wonder if he knew about P99 if he would have been interested in coming here for a somewhat classic experience.

I would like to think so. Heck, although I kind of doubt it for all we know he might have been playing here among us already.

Kekephee
08-16-2014, 12:17 PM
You are focusing on the wrong subjective thought process of the individual. Of course loved ones want to be with their parent/sibling/child as long as possible.

Number one is the selfish mentality. I don't want to deal with pain, I don't want to fight for only 10% chance to live, I don't want to go through surgery, I don't want to risk the unknown, I don't want to risk my memories, I don't want to go through chemo, me me me me me, etc...

Whether loved ones feel the above decision is right or wrong by the person commiting suicide is not relevant. The decision to go through with suicide is still selfish.

Doesn't understand how depression works


Thinks Rush Limbaugh is right and people who kill themselves just aren't TUFF ENUFF

Gaffin 7.0
08-16-2014, 12:24 PM
Doesn't understand how depression works


Thinks Rush Limbaugh is right and people who kill themselves just aren't TUFF ENUFF

x2

Champion_Standing
08-16-2014, 12:37 PM
Doesn't understand how depression works


Thinks Rush Limbaugh is right and people who kill themselves just aren't TUFF ENUFF

Citation needed

myriverse
08-16-2014, 01:51 PM
You are focusing on the wrong subjective thought process of the individual. Of course loved ones want to be with their parent/sibling/child as long as possible.
Only if they are selfish.

Glenzig
08-16-2014, 01:55 PM
Only if they are selfish.

So would it be a selfless act for your wife to kill you if she thought you were suffering too much?

Gaffin 7.0
08-16-2014, 01:58 PM
if your that low you dont give a fuck about anyone else but trying to feel some type of happiness within yourself and will destroy anyone elses to get it. trust me

KagatobLuvsAnimu
08-19-2014, 03:53 AM
http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-robin-williams-memorial-to-be-small-private-protest-possible-20140817-story.html

"The memorial service for Robin Williams is expected to be a small, private affair. But that hasn't stopped members of the Westboro Baptist Church from suggesting that they might picket the event."
"Westboro, a Kansas-based group known for hate-filled protests sometimes targeting gays and their supporters, has mentioned the idea of a protest on Twitter several times in recent days."

I have a question. Is it illegal to use a public forum/social media to ask for the deaths of someone/a group of people? I realize that putting a hit on someone is illegal but I wouldn't be offering any reward, just providing an address (3701 SW 12th St, Topeka, KS 66604 across the street from a cleverly painted rainbow house) and asking if anyone has the kindness in their heart to wipe out every human there.

Would there be potential legal repercussions to such an act? If so what are they? :confused:

KagatobLuvsAnimu
08-19-2014, 04:09 AM
So far all of my research points to it being perfectly legal to do so as long as an actual 'hit' isn't placed. I've also found hundreds of sites from gun toting rednecks dedicated to asking any assassins available to kill Obama ASAP. If that's not gonna land people in trouble then wishing for the deaths of the WBT's a joke.

myriverse
08-19-2014, 07:14 AM
So would it be a selfless act for your wife to kill you if she thought you were suffering too much?
Doesn't really work that way. What makes it selfless is doing it yourself.

But a wife that euthanizes her suffering husband is a hero.

Glenzig
08-19-2014, 08:57 AM
Doesn't really work that way. What makes it selfless is doing it yourself.

But a wife that euthanizes her suffering husband is a hero.

It can be hard to work up the courage to kill yourself though.
And what about suicidal teenagers? Should parents start being heroes and assisting their children to kill themselves?

Sidelle
08-19-2014, 09:22 AM
http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-robin-williams-memorial-to-be-small-private-protest-possible-20140817-story.html

"The memorial service for Robin Williams is expected to be a small, private affair. But that hasn't stopped members of the Westboro Baptist Church from suggesting that they might picket the event."
"Westboro, a Kansas-based group known for hate-filled protests sometimes targeting gays and their supporters, has mentioned the idea of a protest on Twitter several times in recent days."

I have a question. Is it illegal to use a public forum/social media to ask for the deaths of someone/a group of people? I realize that putting a hit on someone is illegal but I wouldn't be offering any reward, just providing an address (3701 SW 12th St, Topeka, KS 66604 across the street from a cleverly painted rainbow house) and asking if anyone has the kindness in their heart to wipe out every human there.

Would there be potential legal repercussions to such an act? If so what are they? :confused:

Yeah, I saw the news story about this. What a bunch of inbred idiots. Robin Williams played a gay man in a movie once, The Bird Cage, so it calls for picketing and protesting and trying to upset his family, apparently. After which all of them will gather for their usual activities; sister-fucking and collecting roadkill for their church end-of-summer barbecue.

LulzSect
08-19-2014, 10:39 PM
RIP MRS DOUBTFIRE

http://i.imgur.com/FoQPRez.gif

radditsu
08-20-2014, 07:55 AM
RIP MRS DOUBTFIRE

http://i.imgur.com/FoQPRez.gif

Dat mrs featherbottom.


How would you like a banger in the mout

radditsu
08-20-2014, 08:01 AM
Also if alladins genie was trapped for 10 thousand years. What civilization made the bronze lamp?


That movie was 3rd century AD.

Swish
08-20-2014, 08:06 AM
RIP MRS DOUBTFIRE

http://i.imgur.com/FoQPRez.gif

Was there a link between Robin Williams dying and the tranny porn starting?

Someone got too attached to this movie...

Archalen
08-20-2014, 10:25 AM
You are focusing on the wrong subjective thought process of the individual. Of course loved ones want to be with their parent/sibling/child as long as possible.

Number one is the selfish mentality. I don't want to deal with pain, I don't want to fight for only 10% chance to live, I don't want to go through surgery, I don't want to risk the unknown, I don't want to risk my memories, I don't want to go through chemo, me me me me me, etc...

Whether loved ones feel the above decision is right or wrong by the person commiting suicide is not relevant. The decision to go through with suicide is still selfish.

There is a complex relationship between our personal narrative and our biochemistry. It is true that you can affect your mood and biochemistry through an improvement in personal narrative and thought processes. However, there evidence to suggest that the inverse is also true; personal narrative and thought processes change almost reflexively as a response to "efficiency of neurotransmitter function," for lack of a better phrase. We see this in medications which are sometimes effective. Another thing among many to consider is that the atrophy of the hippocampus can occur during early stages of brain development (you can't fault a child for having a shitty childhood), and we are not certain that neurogenesis due to CBT and other narrative-improvement therapies can fully restore healthy brain matter in all cases. And this is only part of the issue.

If you have a healthy mind though, it is selfish of you not to do a little legwork before you piss out your stupid, shitty opinion.

Lictor
08-20-2014, 11:59 AM
There is a complex relationship between our personal narrative and our biochemistry. It is true that you can affect your mood and biochemistry through an improvement in personal narrative and thought processes. However, there evidence to suggest that the inverse is also true; personal narrative and thought processes change almost reflexively as a response to "efficiency of neurotransmitter function," for lack of a better phrase. We see this in medications which are sometimes effective. Another thing among many to consider is that the atrophy of the hippocampus can occur during early stages of brain development (you can't fault a child for having a shitty childhood), and we are not certain that neurogenesis due to CBT and other narrative-improvement therapies can fully restore healthy brain matter in all cases. And this is only part of the issue.

If you have a healthy mind though, it is selfish of you not to do a little legwork before you piss out your stupid, shitty opinion.

I do not see the point you are attempting to make. No one is arguing mental illness is not real, or mental illness can not alter brain chemistry over time.

Thulack
08-20-2014, 12:18 PM
You are focusing on the wrong subjective thought process of the individual. Of course loved ones want to be with their parent/sibling/child as long as possible.

Number one is the selfish mentality. I don't want to deal with pain, I don't want to fight for only 10% chance to live, I don't want to go through surgery, I don't want to risk the unknown, I don't want to risk my memories, I don't want to go through chemo, me me me me me, etc...

Whether loved ones feel the above decision is right or wrong by the person commiting suicide is not relevant. The decision to go through with suicide is still selfish.

Sorry but i'm thinking about myself in all circumstances first. I love my kids but something was wrong with me and i was not in the right mind to be with them then why be there. Personally i have mental issues that i deal with. When my kids get older i will sit them down and tell them all about it and what i'm going through. Because there might come a day like Robin that i choose not to continue on in this world. When that day comes i wouldn't want it to be a shock or surprise to anyone. Not sure about you but the day i can't wipe my own ass is the day i dont want to be around anymore. I have too much self respect to let someone else do that for me. Hopefully though i go before that day comes.

Lictor
08-20-2014, 12:40 PM
By all means you have the right to do that, as does everyone. Whether it is justified differs from person to person and how they view the world/society/life/religion etc..

The only point I attempted to make is that thought process is selfish. An individual may truly believe the pros outway the cons, and they very well may depending again on your view/belief, but it is still a selfish train of thought and decision.

Archalen
08-20-2014, 12:45 PM
The entire argument of "is it selfish" just doesn't matter. On one hand, yes it is selfish. We make 100s of decisions every day and there are plenty of selfish ones in there. When discussing the utter misery somebody has to go through (usually a lifelong battle) to decide on suicide, arguing whether it is selfish or not is not only irrelevant, it's also counterproductive. If we participate in a culture that merely labels suicide as "selfish," we erode whatever last ember of self-worth somebody contemplating suicide hangs onto.

Selfishness can be a judgment of blame; in my previous post, I demonstrated that "blame" is not so black and white when you actually look at it with a discerning eye.

Clark
08-20-2014, 12:47 PM
People in third world nations are the ones who have it much rougher than we do.

Sirken
08-20-2014, 12:56 PM
i understand the whole "its selfish to commit suicide because it hurts the people that love you" point of view

but if you are truly that unhappy, wouldn't it be even more selfish of the people that love you if they prevent it? realistically, they aren't thinking about you or how miserable you are. they are thinking about themselves, and how losing you will effect themselves and their own lives.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/ff/Deep_in_thought.jpg

Frieza_Prexus
08-20-2014, 01:06 PM
i understand the whole "its selfish to commit suicide because it hurts the people that love you" point of view

but if you are truly that unhappy, wouldn't it be even more selfish of the people that love you if they prevent it? realistically, they aren't thinking about you or how miserable you are. they are thinking about themselves, and how losing you will effect themselves and their own lives.

That's true to an extent, but you have to consider the responsibilities a person has when they make that choice. If I have young children, it absolutely is selfish to take my own life. I created them, and I have responsibilities to them that will go drastically unfulfilled.

It's one thing when a person kills themself due to crippling mental illness, and it's another when they do so fully informed of the consequences and they're in a reasonably cogent state of mind. Selflessness and responsibility are about performing your duties even if they make you unhappy. It's not entirely black and white, but well-informed suicide is often very selfish.

KagatobLuvsAnimu
08-20-2014, 01:16 PM
That's true to an extent, but you have to consider the responsibilities a person has when they make that choice. If I have young children, it absolutely is selfish to take my own life. I created them, and I have responsibilities to them that will go drastically unfulfilled.

It's one thing when a person kills themself due to crippling mental illness, and it's another when they do so fully informed of the consequences and they're in a reasonably cogent state of mind. Selflessness and responsibility are about performing your duties even if they make you unhappy. It's not entirely black and white, but well-informed suicide is often very selfish.

Robin Williams's children are self sufficient adults.

Sirken
08-20-2014, 01:23 PM
That's true to an extent, but you have to consider the responsibilities a person has when they make that choice. If I have young children, it absolutely is selfish to take my own life. I created them, and I have responsibilities to them that will go drastically unfulfilled.

It's one thing when a person kills themself due to crippling mental illness, and it's another when they do so fully informed of the consequences and they're in a reasonably cogent state of mind. Selflessness and responsibility are about performing your duties even if they make you unhappy. It's not entirely black and white, but well-informed suicide is often very selfish.

so every situation is different? and we shouldn't paint them all with one broad stroke?

where have i heard that before? :rolleyes:

Glenzig
08-20-2014, 01:24 PM
Robin Williams's children are self sufficient adults.

Once you turn 18 and get a job, there is no need for parent anymore.

Alarti0001
08-20-2014, 01:28 PM
Once you turn 18 and get a job, there is no need for parent anymore.

Why 18? So basically you don't need a parent once society determines you are a legal adult? It wasn't that long ago when 14 was the age of adulthood.

For the simple act of survival you don't need a parent past a very young age. However, we are know longer cave dwelling sociopaths.

Alarti0001
08-20-2014, 01:28 PM
Why 18? So basically you don't need a parent once society determines you are a legal adult? It wasn't that long ago when 14 was the age of adulthood.

For the simple act of survival you don't need a parent past a very young age. However, we are know longer cave dwelling sociopaths.

To correct this... alot of the people on p99 still might still be cave dwelling sociopaths.

Glenzig
08-20-2014, 01:38 PM
Why 18? So basically you don't need a parent once society determines you are a legal adult? It wasn't that long ago when 14 was the age of adulthood.

For the simple act of survival you don't need a parent past a very young age. However, we are know longer cave dwelling sociopaths.

Nah man. Once you turn 18 and are legally an adult, you can basically just forget your patents even existed. If you do contact them at all it should not be for any sort of emotional or financial support or advice, but simply to let them know that you are a self sufficient adult, and they can kill themselves at any time.

Clark
08-20-2014, 01:41 PM
That's true to an extent, but you have to consider the responsibilities a person has when they make that choice. If I have young children, it absolutely is selfish to take my own life. I created them, and I have responsibilities to them that will go drastically unfulfilled.

It's one thing when a person kills themself due to crippling mental illness, and it's another when they do so fully informed of the consequences and they're in a reasonably cogent state of mind. Selflessness and responsibility are about performing your duties even if they make you unhappy. It's not entirely black and white, but well-informed suicide is often very selfish.

Alarti0001
08-20-2014, 03:06 PM
Nah man. Once you turn 18 and are legally an adult, you can basically just forget your patents even existed. If you do contact them at all it should not be for any sort of emotional or financial support or advice, but simply to let them know that you are a self sufficient adult, and they can kill themselves at any time.

;)

Wrench
08-20-2014, 03:22 PM
so every situation is different? and we shouldn't paint them all with one broad stroke?

where have i heard that before? :rolleyes:

lol, are you high again sirken?

im not sure you even read what xasten posted

Sirken
08-20-2014, 04:31 PM
lol, are you high again sirken?

im not sure you even read what xasten posted

i was just being a dick cause of raid stuff ;)

iruinedyourday
08-20-2014, 05:12 PM
Nah man. Once you turn 18 and are legally an adult, you can basically just forget your patents even existed. If you do contact them at all it should not be for any sort of emotional or financial support or advice, but simply to let them know that you are a self sufficient adult, and they can kill themselves at any time.

:D

mtb tripper
08-20-2014, 05:15 PM
lol

radditsu
08-20-2014, 08:01 PM
Answer my alladin question dammit.