Why are black people so angry?

[Misto]

Missouri.

[KagatobLuvsAnimu]

N*ggers gonna be n*ggers. Idiots like you asking stupid questions like that only fuels their rage though. You're equally part of the problem, congrats. :)

[radditsu]

2 naggers posted above me.

[harnold]

Because they are animals and don't know any better

[KagatobLuvsAnimu]

Nah man, it's just accepting reality. Thousands upon thousands of black on black deaths every month and nobody in the black community bats an eyelash. The 2% of black deaths caused by white people always end up with a bunch of blacks looting/rioting.

[harnold]

Tldr

[KagatobLuvsAnimu]

I find it annoying that every stupid article on the subject of late brings up Trayvon Martin as if he's some martyr. The punk responded to his elder's words with his fists and paid the price, end of story.

[Cecily]

Elder? Japanese culture has really sunk into your brain, hasn't it.

[KagatobLuvsAnimu]

Elder? Japanese culture has really sunk into your brain, hasn't it.

Look up the phrase "your elders" you plebeian.

[Cecily]

That's more a value associated with 1950's America and modern Asian countries than America today. I wonder how much of your understanding of human interaction has been directly picked up from Anime and if you're able to tell whether or not it applies in western culture. I'm rambling though. Gomennasi. *bows*

[Synthlol]

The punk responded to his elder's words with his fists and paid the price, end of story.

Oh right, I forgot you're allowed to be a shithead to someone if you were born before them.

[Sidelle]

Postin in a troll thread. Sup, y'all :D

[KagatobLuvsAnimu]

Oh right, I forgot you're allowed to be a shithead to someone if you were born before them.

Asking someone who is acting suspicious in a gated community "what are you doing here" is being a shithead. Whatever satisfies your need to kill whitey.

[KagatobLuvsAnimu]

That's more a value associated with 1950's America and modern Asian countries than America today. I wonder how much of your understanding of human interaction has been directly picked up from Anime and if you're able to tell whether or not it applies in western culture. I'm rambling though. Gomennasi. *bows*

I was born in the 1980s and was taught to respect my elders. Just because your parents did a shit job doesn't mean you should be projecting it on everyone else.

[Swish]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8pyW6w5B7Aw

[Swish]

^^ that self entitlement

[phacemeltar]

i cant believe people still discriminate by race

[Circa.]

LMAO Swish

[Whirled]

i cant believe people still discriminate by race

http://www.dalailama.com/messages/compassion

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GeUXY6v5tJk

/agree

[KagatobLuvsAnimu]

i cant believe people still discriminate by race

As opposed to sexual, class, spiritual and ideological discrimination...

[myriverse]

I was born in the 1980s and was taught to respect my elders.
Then you were taught wrongly. Elders deserve no more respect than anyone else.

[Sidelle]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8pyW6w5B7Aw

http://media.tumblr.com/d273828894ff8c1b33020058f33d6f83/tumblr_inline_mlkqa4mLFP1qz4rgp.gif

[KagatobLuvsAnimu]

Then you were taught wrongly. Elders deserve no more respect than anyone else.

I'm sure you feel the same way about your parents and teachers too. :rolleyes:

[Misanthrope]

white guy here

angry a lot.

am i really black?

[Soandso]

Black people should be thanking the white man for bringing their ancestors over to America in the first place. If they didn't they'd still be on that shithole continent.

[myriverse]

I'm sure you feel the same way about your parents and teachers too. :rolleyes:
Absolutely. They never deserved any better, and perhaps worse in cases.

[myriverse]

It's been 30 years since I've had to worry about teachers though.

[KagatobLuvsAnimu]

Absolutely. They never deserved any better, and perhaps worse in cases.

I sense... a meme coming.

[iruinedyourday]

I find it annoying that every stupid article on the subject of late brings up Trayvon Martin as if he's some martyr. The punk responded to his elder's words with his fists and paid the price, end of story.

http://i.imgur.com/NlboV.gif

[tekniq]

blacks aren't angrier. they are just more inclined to show their true colors and wear their emotions on their sleeve. That's why they are loud, aggressive, and straight up OG.

[KagatobLuvsAnimu]

http://i.imgur.com/paW8RF4.jpg

[Tenlaar]

I was born in the 1980s and was taught to respect my elders. Just because your parents did a shit job doesn't mean you should be projecting it on everyone else.

That's strange, I was taught to respect people based on who they are and how they conduct themselves in life.

But hey, if you want to go off of when somebody was born instead, that's one (illogical) way to go about it.

[Sidelle]

blacks aren't angrier. they are just more inclined to show their true colors and wear their emotions on their sleeve. That's why they are loud, aggressive, and straight up OG.

So that's why they're so loud in movie theaters... :p

[DetroitVelvetSmooth]

Japanese culture is really shitty in ways that are diametrically opposed to the ways that Black-American culture is really shitty. Actually, probably more overlap than I give credit for. Either way, fuck all of you, as usual, you are all just pathetic and awful. Booooo this thread. Boooo.

However, having a gun in a CnC state has empowered me to live out my dream of walking around black neighborhoods and shushing groups of teenagers that I believe are being too loud, or perhaps menacing passersby. Then, when they ineveitably "step-to-me," I have an opportunity to use my gun!! (I mean, I paid for it, I should get to use it!) It is therapeutic for all those years of high-school cafeterias where the loud black kids made me uncomfortable and annoyed to kill a few of them now. Thank you, guns.

[Lictor]

What explains the horrible driving then?

[iruinedyourday]

What explains the horrible driving then?

Everyone on earth is the most horrible driver on earth.

[KagatobLuvsAnimu]

That's strange, I was taught to respect people based on who they are and how they conduct themselves in life.

But hey, if you want to go off of when somebody was born instead, that's one (illogical) way to go about it.

So you treat everyone like shit/a threat until they earn the right to be treated respectfully? That's logical? Whatever happened to "treat others as you would wish them to treat you"?

[Tasslehofp99]

So that's why they're so loud in movie theaters... :p

lol

[DetroitVelvetSmooth]

So you treat everyone like shit/a threat until they earn the right to be treated respectfully? That's logical? Whatever happened to "treat others as you would wish them to treat you"?

This is a special kind of stupid from someone defending a guy that assumed someone was a burglar for the color of their skin. (And then, instead of saying he had a gun, decided to provoke the kid until he was attacked, so he could do what every pussy with a gun wants to do) I hope you die in an anime dvd fire you pansy.

[Tenlaar]

So you treat everyone like shit/a threat until they earn the right to be treated respectfully? That's logical? Whatever happened to "treat others as you would wish them to treat you"?

Why do you assume that the starting point would be treating people like shit? I treat everybody with respect until the point where their actions show that the respect is undeserved.

At no point is the deciding factor a person's age or job, though.

[KagatobLuvsAnimu]

a guy that assumed someone was a burglar for the color of their skin.

Got anything else to pull out of your ass?

[KagatobLuvsAnimu]

Why do you assume that the starting point would be treating people like shit? I treat everybody with respect until the point where their actions show that the respect is undeserved.

At no point is the deciding factor a person's age or job, though.

When your argument is against assuming respect of others do you honestly expect me to magically draw another conclusion other than the one reached?

[Tenlaar]

My argument was against the idea that people deserve a certain amount of respect simply because of their age or occupation. Try to keep up.

[DetroitVelvetSmooth]

Got anything else to pull out of your ass?

What was it then, his sneakiness? His behoodedness? Was he dashing from bush to bush? I hope that during the fatal anime dvd fire that kills you, your pillow-wife's synthetic fibers melt to your face during your final sad embrace.

[KagatobLuvsAnimu]

What was it then, his sneakiness? His behoodedness? Was he dashing from bush to bush?.

All of the above, plus the being in no hurry to get out of the rain and him being in the same immediate area as the string of break ins that happened not two weeks prior.

He was a stranger in a gated community and attacked a resident of that community after being asked a simple question. Neighborhood watch or not, he had every right to defend himself from his attacker.

Grow up and learn how to process facts.

[Glenzig]

All of the above, plus the being in no hurry to get out of the rain and him being in the same immediate area as the string of break ins that happened not two weeks prior.

He was a stranger in a gated community and attacked a resident of that community after being asked a simple question. Neighborhood watch or not, he had every right to defend himself from his attacker.

Grow up and learn how to process facts.

At what point did he call the police to arrest this dangerous individual?

[KagatobLuvsAnimu]

At what point did he call the police to arrest this dangerous individual?

7:09pm and 34 seconds. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_the_shooting_of_Trayvon_Martin)

[iruinedyourday]

Kaga, Respect other people you hypocritical fucking douche bag and stop arguing about something that is both out of your ability to comprehend and your realm of personal knowledge.

Take some of your own GOD DAMNED advice and shut the fuck up and show some respect to people you do not know, you bottom feeder.

[KagatobLuvsAnimu]

contextless anger-filled post needs context.

;)

[iruinedyourday]

Look man all you say is that people should respect other people regardless of what they say or do, so shut the fuck up and respect other people and stop arguing with them.

[Glenzig]

7:09pm and 34 seconds. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_the_shooting_of_Trayvon_Martin)

Correct.

◾7:11:59 — In reply to the dispatcher's question, "Are you following him?" Zimmerman responds with, "Yes." Dispatcher: "OK, we don't need you to do that." Zimmerman: "OK."

I guess it wasn't ok. About 5 minutes later he shot him. If he was going to call the police, why not let them handle it?

[iruinedyourday]

If I have to live in a world where people are still trying to argue over whether this Zimmerman fellow was in the right, I'm gonna explode here.

http://i.imgur.com/NlboV.gif

[DetroitVelvetSmooth]

Kag - Shut up, you lose. Bitch.

[KagatobLuvsAnimu]

Correct.

◾7:11:59 — In reply to the dispatcher's question, "Are you following him?" Zimmerman responds with, "Yes." Dispatcher: "OK, we don't need you to do that." Zimmerman: "OK."

I guess it wasn't ok. About 5 minutes later he shot him. If he was going to call the police, why not let them handle it?
Hindsight is 20/20. There is no law, anywhere saying you have to do what a dispatcher says.
If I have to live in a world where people are still trying to argue over whether this Zimmerman fellow was in the right, I'm gonna explode here.

Is it going to be any different from the rest of the explosive diarrhea you've posted thus far? Zimmerman wasn't in "the right" he was within "his rights" get it fucking straight. Acknowledging that the dead person made the wrong choice does and inferring through such that the one who killed them isn't a cold blooded murderer does not imply that they are some kind of angel/hero/savior.

I don't even want to begin to guess what ass-backwards thoughts you have about the recent racing death of the hot-headed 20 year old walking out in the middle of the track asking to be run over.

[Glenzig]

Hindsight is 20/20. There is no law, anywhere saying you have to do what a dispatcher says.

As opposed to the law that says a young black kid has to answer to a neighborhood watch member or they will get shot? Come on man. He couldn't wait more than 5 minutes to let the cops show up and deal with it?

[iruinedyourday]

I don't even want to begin to guess what ass-backwards thoughts you have about the recent racing death of the hot-headed 20 year old walking out in the middle of the track asking to be run over.


well too bad, Im gona tell you!

1. The court will sort it out.

2. They are both hot head race car driving rednecks, it would be of no surprise to me if hot head #1 got run over on accident while hothead #2 tried to fake hit him with his car.

and 3. I think its silly that people are doing this:

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-zk3ZyaqctU4/UfffL5pY2pI/AAAAAAAACw4/W4_HHBsUN78/s1600/Primeval+duncans+wall+1+copy.JPG

on a forum to argue about weather he did it on purpose based on their knowledge of the type of car he was driving and shit.

and to bring it all back around, who cares one less redneck in the world to have stupid redneck babies.

http://nosmirkale.com/rant/images/familytree.jpg

[KagatobLuvsAnimu]

As opposed to the law that says a young black kid has to answer to a neighborhood watch member or they will get shot? Come on man. He couldn't wait more than 5 minutes to let the cops show up and deal with it?

Stop misrepresenting the facts you troll. He sure as hell did answer the neighborhood watch member... with his fists. His choice, his consequence.

[iruinedyourday]

Ok well thread has figured out why Black people are so angry! Its because of people like kagatoluvsAnimu....

which ironically is the same reason why like tons of women on OKcupid are also angry..

[Glenzig]

Stop misrepresenting the facts you troll. He sure as hell did answer the neighborhood watch member... with his fists. His choice, his consequence.

I guess if he had a gun also and ended up shooting Zimmerman you would be cool with that too? He would have just been standing his ground. "Within his rights".

[DetroitVelvetSmooth]

All this thread is bearing out was our collective intuition that kag is human garbage that the world would be better off without. Anime dvd fire. Polyester love companion pillow melted onto tiny dick. lol.

[KagatobLuvsAnimu]

I guess if he had a gun also and ended up shooting Zimmerman you would be cool with that too? He would have just been standing his ground. "Within his rights".

The entire Zimmerman case had nothing to do with stand your ground outside of media talking points.

[DetroitVelvetSmooth]

All this thread is bearing out was our collective intuition that kag is human garbage that the world would be better off without. Anime dvd fire. Polyester love companion pillow melted onto tiny dick. lol. Can we stop now?

[katrik]

Elder? Japanese culture has really sunk into your brain, hasn't it.

Lol'd

[KagatobLuvsAnimu]

Hate to break this to you guys, but I'm the only one supplying evidence/facts here while the rest of you are relying solely on insults and appeals to emotion.

[DetroitVelvetSmooth]

Hate to break this to you guys, but I'm the only one supplying evidence/facts here while the rest of you are relying solely on insults and appeals to emotion.

This bitch cray cray.... priceless

[Ket]

. Anime dvd fire. Polyester love companion pillow melted onto tiny dick. lol.

No idea what this thread is about.... Just thought this statement was hilarious, whatever it means.

-ket

[Pokesan]

death to kagatob he's an awful human being

[Misto]

I fuckin' hate black people so much.

In other news:

DOTA2 Is A Giant Spic Carnival

[phacemeltar]

this thread should be retitled as "in defense of black people"

[phacemeltar]

http://www.museumoffamilyhistory.com/ajolson-blackface-1909-a.jpg
http://www.nasagang.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/black_face_makeup.jpg
http://freebeacon.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/blackface-1.jpg
http://shashasociologic.files.wordpress.com/2013/12/blackface00.jpg
http://johnedwinmason.typepad.com/.a/6a0112791cb10528a40120a8c32827970b-500wi
http://img3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20120330025503/uncyclopedia/images/b/bf/Bing_Crosby_blackface.jpg
http://ntmv.files.wordpress.com/2010/11/gibson_blackface-elder.jpg

[Estolcles]

I still don't get why whitey is the problem in the whole Martin/Zimmerman bit, seeing as Zimmerman ain't even a cracker.

*****s just gotta act 200% ***** or else they lose their ***** card, and end up having extra ***** moments.

[phacemeltar]

http://ntmv.files.wordpress.com/2010/11/gibson_blackface-elder.jpg

[phacemeltar]

http://ntmv.files.wordpress.com/2010/11/gibson_blackface-elder.jpg

oops meant to post this: Lynching_of_Jesse_Washington (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lynching_of_Jesse_Washington)

[Aviann]

Hate to break this to you guys, but I'm the only one supplying evidence/facts here while the rest of you are relying solely on insults and appeals to emotion.

Shut up, Meg.

[Estolcles]

Shut up, Meg.

NO! Do NOT compare Kagatob to my first girlfriend. It's rude to Kaga. Meg is the highest of slurs you can call someone, in my book. You can say anything else, just don't call someone a Meg. That's just mean beyond mean.

[Eliseus]

White males are the most discriminated ethnicity in the World.

[Eliseus]

Oops my bad, *White straight males

[radditsu]

Chinamen are not the issue here.

[vaylorie]

So I live near St. Louis (white suburbs where we can judge at a distance).

They burned a QuickTrip down. It turns out the shooting was a ruse, this was one of those classic 'out of watermelon, fried chicken, cornbread, and kool-aid at the same time' situations. FEMA has been engaged to deliver emergency ethnic food staples which should quell the problem.


http://img1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20131216012147/degrassi/images/f/f5/Which-of-these-food-items-is-not-delicious.jpg

[Daywolf]

I dunt kno but
I pitty the foo!

[KagatobLuvsAnimu]

http://www.museumoffamilyhistory.com/ajolson-blackface-1909-a.jpg
http://www.nasagang.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/black_face_makeup.jpg
http://freebeacon.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/blackface-1.jpg
http://shashasociologic.files.wordpress.com/2013/12/blackface00.jpg
http://johnedwinmason.typepad.com/.a/6a0112791cb10528a40120a8c32827970b-500wi
http://img3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20120330025503/uncyclopedia/images/b/bf/Bing_Crosby_blackface.jpg
http://ntmv.files.wordpress.com/2010/11/gibson_blackface-elder.jpg
http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/02439/oompa-loompa-assau_2439825b.jpg

Ya missed an important one.

[Swish]

Saw a big article once about how young blacks were more likely to be stopped and searched in the streets of London than whites in the evenings.

Turns out tho that there were way more blacks out on the streets than whites, plus London isn't white anymore except for the tourists and city workers.

Try telling that to the liberal left though, who can't shake that "white guilt" :p

[iruinedyourday]

Wouldnt it be cool if like, whenever this conversation comes up someone didnt have to bring up that some studies are wrong or it aint as bad as they say it is, or someone deserved it or had it comming. Idk if i was black, that'd make me pretty mad.

but I aint, so i aint mad. I'm just sayin.

[KagatobLuvsAnimu]

Wouldnt it be cool if like, whenever this conversation comes up someone didnt have to bring up that some studies are wrong or it aint as bad as they say it is, or someone deserved it or had it comming. Idk if i was black, that'd make me pretty mad.

but I aint, so i aint mad. I'm just sayin.

That's not something exclusive to black people though, that's across the board. I apologize if I'm taking your post out of context but anyone with half a brain would make the same call if the person was hispanic/asian/white. It seems to me that you are almost trying to imply that blacks are something sacred and not to ever be critiqued due to *insert white guilt footnote here*.

[iruinedyourday]

also becuse they cannot do this

http://i.imgur.com/XvNqyg3.gif

[KagatobLuvsAnimu]

also becuse they cannot do this

http://i.imgur.com/XvNqyg3.gif

Watch the actual video, he got arrested in the end. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6EsphzAFQpg)

[Glenzig]

So wait. If you aren't a racist you have "white guilt"? There is a pretty big difference between not feeling that you are superior as a white person, and feeling guilty that you are white. Why would I have to feel guilty about being white?

[radditsu]

An it may have to be something to do with

http://www.ocf.berkeley.edu/~arihuang/academic/abg/slavery/slavery.gif


And all those systemic laws and stuff that keep rich white people rich and white.

[Skinned]

Because when they speak nobody will listen.

You live in a town that is 2/3rd black, when the police department of 60 has 3 blacks and the school board is 8 out of 9 black.

Seems like a tyranny of the minority to me.

[Skinned]

Because when they speak nobody will listen.

You live in a town that is 2/3rd black, when the police department of 60 has 3 blacks and the school board is 8 out of 9 black.

Seems like a tyranny of the minority to me.

School board 8 out of 9 white I meant.

Also, after reading this thread, we as a culture really need to allow high schools to teach sociology, as some people here are obviously struggling on the topic, particularly the OP.

[littlestar]

So I'm really new to this server, but I've been loving RnF during med breaks. This is the first thread that made me want to post, and I had a long, angry reply planned. Then I realized that RnF had won, so I won't do that. But seriously bros, that anime fucktard is a fucking awful human being.

[DetroitVelvetSmooth]

It's a great place if you want to feel intellectually and morally superior to white trash while simultaneously seeing if you can hurt people's feelings! Good times!

[radditsu]

It's a great place if you want to feel intellectually and morally superior to white trash while simultaneously seeing if you can hurt people's feelings! Good times!

[Gaffin 7.0]

you cant hurt my feelings so fuck all of you, have a good day

[hitmanloki]

School board 8 out of 9 white I meant.

Also, after reading this thread, we as a culture really need to allow high schools to teach sociology, as some people here are obviously struggling on the topic, particularly the OP.


cause you have to be able to read to be on the school board

[Glenzig]

cause you have to be able to read to be on the school board

See now that's funny. Good job.

[Daldolma]

this thread is stupid but it's amazing how many people still don't have even the most basic understanding of the zimmerman case

[DetroitVelvetSmooth]

Fat sissy follows black kid, calls cops who tell him to stop it, continues following kid, walks up to kid and starts questioning him (I'm sure in a very nonthreatening and professional manner), somehow a fight breaks out (no way!), then the fat sissy who had been hiding a gun the whole time loses the fight, fat sissy shoots kid fulfilling a lifelong dream of getting back at those black kids in high school that picked on him. What did I miss?

[hitmanloki]

detroit velvet smooth lol.

what color cadillac do you drive?

[hitmanloki]

do you even gold teeth?

[hitmanloki]

I bet you don't even purple hair.

[Daldolma]

Fat sissy follows black kid, calls cops who tell him to stop it, continues following kid, walks up to kid and starts questioning him (I'm sure in a very nonthreatening and professional manner), somehow a fight breaks out (no way!), then the fat sissy who had been hiding a gun the whole time loses the fight, fat sissy shoots kid fulfilling a lifelong dream of getting back at those black kids in high school that picked on him. What did I miss?

1) the cops didn't tell him anything, an operator did
2) according to zimmerman, martin came out of the bushes and initiated the confrontation
3) even if someone questions you unprofessionally and threateningly, you don't have the right to punch them in the face and bash their head against the sidewalk
4) the fact that you say "somehow a fight breaks out" is pretty much all that was needed to acquit -- that's called reasonable doubt
5) "a fight" is a bit of a misnomer. zimmerman was getting pummeled, martin's knuckles were a little worse for the wear
6) you attribute long-standing racial enmity to zimmerman despite significant evidence that he was not a racist and actually served as a mentor to a black youth

you don't have to like zimmerman. he's a fat sissy, sure. his actions contributed to a truly unfortunate death. but according to his story, which is largely corroborated by available evidence, the only thing he's guilty of is being an idiot. there's not even close to sufficient evidence to convict him of murder. he shouldn't have even been charged if not for the cause célèbre

[Glenzig]

this thread is stupid but it's amazing how many people still don't have even the most basic understanding of the zimmerman case

It was such an intricate case with so many moving parts.

[Daldolma]

It was such an intricate case with so many moving parts.

no it's extremely simple, which is why it's -- and i quote -- "amazing how many people still don't have even the most basic understanding" of the case

[DetroitVelvetSmooth]

1) the cops didn't tell him anything, an operator did


Stopped reading lol. What a fool.

[Daldolma]

Stopped reading lol. What a fool.

there is a world of difference, both legally and practically.

but by all means, continue to have a fervent and unyielding opinion based on ignorant preconceptions. ironic.

[Skinned]

cause you have to be able to read to be on the school board

As somebody who practices social work I must refrain from insulting mentally retarded people, even if it is the Rants and Flames subforum.

[DetroitVelvetSmooth]

[QUOTE=Daldolma;1576034
2) according to zimmerman, martin came out of the bushes and initiated the confrontation
[/QUOTE]

I went back and actually read the 2nd point, and its even more mind-bendingly ridiculous than the first! Didn't think it was possible! The words of the guy standing over the unarmed dead body are usually true, if there's anything I've learned from watching police procedurals. That's probably how it went down, sure.

[Lictor]

So if a white kid unaware of his surroundings walked into a black neighborhood with his head shaved and a neo-nazi shirt on, gets into an altercation and dies, would the white community be as outraged as the black community with Zimmerman?

[DetroitVelvetSmooth]

So if a white kid unaware of his surroundings walked into a black neighborhood with his head shaved and a neo-nazi shirt on, gets into an altercation and dies, would the white community be as outraged as the black community with Zimmerman?

This is the analogy in the heads of a good percentage of Americans. Pray for a plague.

[Skinned]

So if a white kid unaware of his surroundings walked into a black neighborhood with his head shaved and a neo-nazi shirt on, gets into an altercation and dies, would the white community be as outraged as the black community with Zimmerman?

So Skittles and a snapple to whites is like a neo-nazi shirt and a shaved head? Clear dearth of critical thinking.

[Daldolma]

I went back and actually read the 2nd point, and its even more mind-bendingly ridiculous than the first! Didn't think it was possible! The words of the guy standing over the unarmed dead body are usually true, if there's anything I've learned from watching police procedurals. That's probably how it went down, sure.

what is it about the criminal system that you're struggling with? the burden is on the prosecutor to prove the elements of the case beyond a reasonable doubt.

zimmerman's story is the only eye-witness testimony anyone has, and it's largely corroborated by the evidence. does that make it true? no -- it doesn't have to be. it has to instill a reasonable doubt. so when you make a contrary claim based on absolutely no evidence, there is reasonable doubt as to whether your fabricated narrative is exactly what happened. you don't convict a man of murder based on that.

the burden wasn't on zimmerman. you don't have to believe him. you have to prove that his story is not what happened, beyond any reasonable doubt. that's impossible, given the evidence

it's really not that hard to comprehend

[Lictor]

A reasonable person looking at both hypotheticals realize the likelyhood of an incident is high. Why is society at large shocked when one occurs?

[Lictor]

So Skittles and a snapple to whites is like a neo-nazi shirt and a shaved head? Clear dearth of critical thinking.

Skittles and snapper had nothing to do with the hypothetical. Go back and read it again.

[DetroitVelvetSmooth]

what is it about the criminal system that you're struggling with? the burden is on the prosecutor to prove the elements of the case beyond a reasonable doubt.

zimmerman's story is the only eye-witness testimony anyone has, and it's largely corroborated by the evidence. does that make it true? no -- it doesn't have to be. it has to instill a reasonable doubt. so when you make a contrary claim based on absolutely no evidence, there is reasonable doubt as to whether your fabricated narrative is exactly what happened. you don't convict a man of murder based on that.

the burden wasn't on zimmerman. you don't have to believe him. you have to prove that his story is not what happened, beyond any reasonable doubt. that's impossible, given the evidence

it's really not that hard to comprehend

Uh, I'm not saying that the tragedy is that he wasn't convicted... what kind of monster are you?

[Daldolma]

A reasonable person looking at both hypotheticals realize the likelyhood of an incident is high. Why is society at large shocked when one occurs?

because a black kid walking in a white neighborhood shouldn't be equated to a neo-nazi walking in a black neighborhood. a black kid in a white neighborhood should be treated the same way a white kid in a white neighborhood would be. society should be appalled if what you were saying is true

but it's not. white-on-black crime in predominantly white neighborhoods isn't exactly an epidemic sweeping the nation. martin had a reasonable expectation of safety. zimmerman was probably unreasonable in following him.

but that's a far cry from murder

[DetroitVelvetSmooth]

This shit is like b-team RnF, who the fuck are you morons? Like boxing with homeless children around here (a popular pastime in Florida, I believe).

[Daldolma]

Uh, I'm not saying that the tragedy is that he wasn't convicted... what kind of monster are you?

uh, the quote i replied to never mentioned a tragedy and never even mentioned trayvon, except as an unarmed dead body. you discussed the reliability of zimmerman's testimony. i replied on that topic.

very few people would disagree that martin's death was a tragedy. as i've already said, it was truly unfortunate. but this case isn't famous because the country was in mourning over the death of a black teenager. the cause célèbre focused on the perception that there was a miscarriage of justice

[Glenzig]

This shit is like b-team RnF, who the fuck are you morons? Like boxing with homeless children around here (a popular pastime in Florida, I believe).

I think you just cleared up the entire Zimmerman case. He thought he was a homeless kid and just wanted to go a few rounds.

[Lictor]

because a black kid walking in a white neighborhood shouldn't be equated to a neo-nazi walking in a black neighborhood. a black kid in a white neighborhood should be treated the same way a white kid in a white neighborhood would be. society should be appalled if what you were saying is true

but it's not. white-on-black crime in predominantly white neighborhoods isn't exactly an epidemic sweeping the nation. martin had a reasonable expectation of safety. zimmerman was probably unreasonable in following him.

but that's a far cry from murder

I agree, but a good number of Americans equate them as the same.

[Eliseus]

All the Zimmerman case proved (besides the % of black people to vote for Obama) is something we all already knew. Most black people are dumb.

[DetroitVelvetSmooth]

uh, the quote i replied to never mentioned a tragedy and never even mentioned trayvon, except as an unarmed dead body. you discussed the reliability of zimmerman's testimony. i replied on that topic.

very few people would disagree that martin's death was a tragedy. as i've already said, it was truly unfortunate. but this case isn't famous because the country was in mourning over the death of a black teenager. the cause célèbre focused on the perception that there was a miscarriage of justice

That's the nub of the issue. When you allow everyone to legally carry guns around, the story gets to be told by the last man standing. That's why every other civilized country has decided that citizens carrying guns around is a bad idea. The "cause celebre" (btw, you couldn't be a more punchable faggot) was that it was clear to any thinking person that the only reason Zimmerman wasn't in jail was because there were no witnesses, not because the letter of the law wasn't followed. You remain a pitiful fool.

[Swish]

Gotta catch them early..

http://images.sodahead.com/profiles/0/0/1/5/1/6/1/7/9/ggg-18593515464.jpeg

[Swish]

This is the analogy in the heads of a good percentage of Americans. Pray for a plague.

[Glenzig]

All the Zimmerman case proved (besides the % of black people to vote for Obama) is something we all already knew. Most black people are dumb.

I used phrenology to arrive at this conclusion. What was your method?

[Frieza_Prexus]

I used phrenology to arrive at this conclusion. What was your method?

http://i.imgur.com/FQomM.gif

[Eliseus]

I used phrenology to arrive at this conclusion. What was your method?

My slaves told me so.

[Glenzig]

My slaves told me so.

Are you Abraham Lincoln?

[Daldolma]

That's the nub of the issue. When you allow everyone to legally carry guns around, the story gets to be told by the last man standing. That's why every other civilized country has decided that citizens carrying guns around is a bad idea. The "cause celebre" (btw, you couldn't be a more punchable faggot) was that it was clear to any thinking person that the only reason Zimmerman wasn't in jail was because there were no witnesses, not because the letter of the law wasn't followed. You remain a pitiful fool.

that's not clear at all, and it's why our legal system is set up the way it is. because people like you, generally with poor reasoning skills and strong opinions, make large deductive leaps without sufficient factual information. it is not "clear to any thinking person" that zimmerman committed any crime at all. if it were, it would be clear "beyond a reasonable doubt". but it's not. the letter of the law wasn't the issue here. the issue was what actually happened. only one living person knows.

and citizens carrying around guns beats the alternative. abridging liberties and rendering vast percentages of the populace utterly incapable of self-defense is hardly preferable to the unfortunate number of gun crimes committed by otherwise law-abiding citizens.

[Swish]

I used phrenology to arrive at this conclusion. What was your method?

eugenics

[DetroitVelvetSmooth]

abridging liberties and rendering vast percentages of the populace utterly incapable of self-defense is hardly preferable to the unfortunate number of gun crimes committed by otherwise law-abiding citizens.

https://img.4plebs.org/boards/pol/image/1388/19/1388199137508.gif

[Skinned]

I used phrenology to arrive at this conclusion. What was your method?

Physiognomy, while we're talking about discredited sciences :)

[Daldolma]

https://img.4plebs.org/boards/pol/image/1388/19/1388199137508.gif

i accept your gracious acquiescence

[Glenzig]

Physiognomy, while we're talking about discredited sciences :)

That's a good one too.

[Orruar]

That's the nub of the issue. When you allow everyone to legally carry guns around, the story gets to be told by the last man standing. ...

Yeah, it's really a shame there is literally no other way to determine what happened. We should start to allow witnesses to testify and forensic science to help reconstruct what happened. And if only police had some method to determine if a person was lying.

[DetroitVelvetSmooth]

i accept your gracious acquiescence

The way you write is dripping with faux-intellectualism. Pretty cringe-inducing - also pretty damn tansparent - reread a few of your posts kid. Ouch. To be fair, English is one of the more complex languages, both in its grammar and range of necessary vocabulary.

[Misto]

The way you write is dripping with faux-intellectualism. Pretty cringe-inducing - also pretty damn tansparent - reread a few of your posts kid. Ouch. To be fair, English is one of the more complex languages, both in its grammar and range of necessary vocabulary.

I got to take a dump.

[Gaffin 7.0]

these forums are shit

[Eliseus]

"Hey guys, this guy made me mad because he has a point. I have no other responses but to try and attack his intelligence. Let me first copy everything I type into Microsoft Word to make sure I don't look like a hypocrite when I try and call him out on something not even relevant to what we were arguing about."

[Glenzig]

"Hey guys, this guy made me mad because he has a point. I have no other responses but to try and attack his intelligence. Let me first copy everything I type into Microsoft Word to make sure I don't look like a hypocrite when I try and call him out on something not even relevant to what we were arguing about."

You're supposed to put it in a quote box with his name on it.

[Frieza_Prexus]

Yeah, it's really a shame there is literally no other way to determine what happened. We should start to allow witnesses to testify and forensic science to help reconstruct what happened. And if only police had some method to determine if a person was lying.

crazypills.gif

[Eliseus]

You're supposed to put it in a quote box with his name on it.

I fail

[Leeyuuduu]

Yep..shame on America..suppressing all those minorities..forcing poor Asians & Indians to have far higher average incomes than white people (Indians in particular having the highest in the US). What's a country to do? Expect people to take care of themselves?

Naw

[Eliseus]

Yep..shame on America..suppressing all those minorities..forcing poor Asians & Indians to have far higher average incomes than white people (Indians in particular having the highest in the US). What's a country to do? Expect people to take care of themselves?

Naw

Hey, shut your mouth, take your white ass back to your couch and enjoy your free...... oh wait.

[Skinned]

Yep..shame on America..suppressing all those minorities..forcing poor Asians & Indians to have far higher average incomes than white people (Indians in particular having the highest in the US). What's a country to do? Expect people to take care of themselves?

Naw

Asians and Indians bounced back from slavery and Jim Crow remarkably well, didn't they?

[iruinedyourday]

Watch the actual video, he got arrested in the end. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6EsphzAFQpg)

rofl if he was black he would have gotten beaten or strangled.

god you are like talking to a brick wall, you have that much personality.

[Leeyuuduu]

Asians and Indians bounced back from slavery and Jim Crow remarkably well, didn't they?

Yes, Chinese in California seem to have done fine despite being persecuted for over a hundred years and forced to build railroads. Both groups also seem to do fine despite being discriminated against by affirmative action, which was meant to help minorities but actually only helps blacks and hispanics while discriminating against whites, asians, and indians.

You can make all the excuses you want, but that still won't do anything to change the status quo.

By the way, no black person today was ever a slave.

[iruinedyourday]

yall are a bunch of racist ass nerds wearing too big underpants cus yall too fucking nerdy to be comfortable buying them at target without your mommies ya fuckin loosers.

[Leeyuuduu]

yall are a bunch of racist ass nerds wearing too big underpants cus yall too fucking nerdy to be comfortable buying them at target without your mommies ya fuckin loosers.

Read it a few times, still not getting it :confused:

And what is a looser? Is it this type of person you speak of who wears very loose underpants?

[iruinedyourday]

sorry this shit just makes me so mad - I'm gona go talk about halflings and wood-elves somewhere else good luck yall!

[Aviann]

I know happy black people

[JayN]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/With_Apologies_to_Jesse_Jackson#mediaviewer/File:Sp1101watjj.jpg

[JayN]

http://img.fark.net/images/cache/850/s/sG/fark_sGnfsYrgqsrn61FCb7cqkIhr1kg.png?t=PAeGtXFwk2v GQdvQBe4lcw&f=1408334400

[Aviann]

Also, nobody ever talks about the discrimination against the Japanese-Americans during WWII. They actually had concentration camps for these people not but 70 years ago, hundreds of thousands wrongly accused and discriminated against for being potential spies against the American people. It was wrong of us, and no amount of paranoia is worth what our government had done during that time.

[Skinned]

Also, nobody ever talks about the discrimination against the Japanese-Americans during WWII. They actually had concentration camps for these people not but 70 years ago, hundreds of thousands wrongly accused and discriminated against for being potential spies against the American people. It was wrong of us, and no amount of paranoia is worth what our government had done during that time.

How many of them are packed into for-profit prisons today?

The American prison system is the Third Middle Crossing, with ghettos the farms to fill them.

Privileged are us who won't be born into such crushing poverty.

[Sidelle]

https://img.4plebs.org/boards/pol/image/1388/19/1388199137508.gif


So.... you're against racism but go around calling people faggot and retard....Right. Gotcha.

http://media.tumblr.com/e18b52308a4e2515f55629573e2b69de/tumblr_inline_mhziv7KoA51qz4rgp.gif

[Eliseus]

Is that really racist? If you are gay, you are a faggot, and if you are retarded, you are retarded.

[Misto]

This is the best YouTube comment I've read about the Missouri Riots:


If yall Black people are mad at the COPS, why the Fuck do you loot and burn down fucking stores, Why don't you attack the fucking police station, I could at least respect that. But I don't respect Thieves and Arsonist. Looters need to be SHOT ON SITE and that's the Goddamn motherfucking Bottomline, Yalls logic is like this, If I had neighbor down the street that attacked and hurt a Family member, Instead of confronting that neighbor ,I decide to attack all my other neighbors and rob them and burn their fucking houses down, It makes no damn sense, If you try to justify this, then you are a Savage Fucktard, not fit to be in our society, Here is the math equation 1 dead Black guy = im gonna get me a new Stereo and steal a case of malt Liquor . Goddamn ,we live in the fucking Twilight Zone.

[Eliseus]

Lmao

[Orruar]

How many of them are packed into for-profit prisons today?


Not that many, because their culture and community is all about hard work and self responsibility. But if they were a culture of people who blamed everyone else for their own problems, they'd probably be in prison a lot and blaming it on the treatment during WW2.

[Daldolma]

The way you write is dripping with faux-intellectualism. Pretty cringe-inducing - also pretty damn tansparent - reread a few of your posts kid. Ouch. To be fair, English is one of the more complex languages, both in its grammar and range of necessary vocabulary.

it's not faux. you're in way over your head, you just don't realize it.

also: *transparent. and the surrounding fragment is just a grammatical disaster. consider revising.

[KagatobLuvsAnimu]

That's the nub of the issue. When you allow everyone to legally carry guns around, the story gets to be told by the last man standing. That's why every other civilized country has decided that citizens carrying guns around is a bad idea. The "cause celebre" (btw, you couldn't be a more punchable faggot) was that it was clear to any thinking person that the only reason Zimmerman wasn't in jail was because there were no witnesses, not because the letter of the law wasn't followed. You remain a pitiful fool.

What? (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_politics_in_Switzerland)

You know your stance is fucked when even I agree with Daldolma.

So wait. If you aren't a racist you have "white guilt"? There is a pretty big difference between not feeling that you are superior as a white person, and feeling guilty that you are white. Why would I have to feel guilty about being white?
You don't. That's the whole goddamn point. Just like acknowledging facts/statistics does not make one racist.
White guilt is crying that SWAT showed up AFTER bunch of black people were rioting while forgetting that there was 24/7 police/swat presence at that useless occupy movement thing.
rofl if he was black he would have gotten beaten or strangled.

god you are like talking to a brick wall, you have that much personality.
There's this organ between your ears in your skull known as a brain. Use it. Understand that the color of his skin, while a potential factor, had nothing to do with the situation. They all have camcorders and record what the cops are up to. That's what white people do. *****s gotta learn to film shit. :cool:

[Lictor]

Also, nobody ever talks about the discrimination against the Japanese-Americans during WWII. They actually had concentration camps for these people not but 70 years ago, hundreds of thousands wrongly accused and discriminated against for being potential spies against the American people. It was wrong of us, and no amount of paranoia is worth what our government had done during that time.

It's the only time the US supreme court issued an apology as far as I am aware regarding one of their decisions. Been years since I was forced to read that non-sense, but as I recall it was all rationalized because it was a time of war.

[DetroitVelvetSmooth]

[QUOTE=KagatobLuvsAnimu;1576574]What? (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_politics_in_Switzerland)

ROFL the first line of the wikipedia article is that "gunrights in switzerland are unique in europe." GAHAHA! You guys are priceless. Thank you. Just good stuff... good stuff... so satisfying...

[KagatobLuvsAnimu]

"Every other civilized country" is awfully specific. I gave you an example of the contrary that has low instance of gun related violence. What more do you want?

[iruinedyourday]

There's this organ between your ears in your skull known as a brain. Use it. Understand that the color of his skin, while a potential factor, had nothing to do with the situation. They all have camcorders and record what the cops are up to. That's what white people do. *****s gotta learn to film shit. :cool:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j1ka4oKu1jo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mfWjgAK-VsQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cMaB2OkU1TY

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/crime/police-dash-cam-video-exonerates-nj-man-implicates-cops-article-1.1701763

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qgweSOiXJ0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SW1ZDIXiuS4

Cameras dont really help ... Rodney king was like 20 years ago.



also dude hopefully you at least fear for your white future when you see those becuse black white or whatever the police are doing thier wrong job in this nation and its time for them to be completely re-organized.

I've had respect for the police, but I'm just done with it - responding with force is just not working.

[phacemeltar]

my opinion is that the police should be set up like the military. i mean that when people work as police officers, they are police officers 24/7. there should be police housing where only the police live, and they should work terms of 4 or 8 years at a time. everything should be paid for, and they should receive pay on top of that (just like the military).

this whole system we have now, where police have mortgages, cheating lovers, kids, and other civilian problems.. this just isnt cutting it. cops are in debt just as much as everyone else, and they are taking shortcuts because of their stresses.

the only difference is that when a cop takes shortcuts its called being a dirty cop, i.e. police corruption.

[radditsu]

Yeah, it's really a shame there is literally no other way to determine what happened. We should start to allow witnesses to testify and forensic science to help reconstruct what happened. And if only police had some method to determine if a person was lying.


http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=9l6esmKkB20

[radditsu]

my opinion is that the police should be set up like the military. i mean that when people work as police officers, they are police officers 24/7. there should be police housing where only the police live, and they should work terms of 4 or 8 years at a time. everything should be paid for, and they should receive pay on top of that (just like the military).

this whole system we have now, where police have mortgages, cheating lovers, kids, and other civilian problems.. this just isnt cutting it. cops are in debt just as much as everyone else, and they are taking shortcuts because of their stresses.

the only difference is that when a cop takes shortcuts its called being a dirty cop, i.e. police corruption.



We need less barney fife and more andy griffith

[iruinedyourday]

my opinion is that the police should be set up like the military. i mean that when people work as police officers, they are police officers 24/7. there should be police housing where only the police live, and they should work terms of 4 or 8 years at a time. everything should be paid for, and they should receive pay on top of that (just like the military).

this whole system we have now, where police have mortgages, cheating lovers, kids, and other civilian problems.. this just isnt cutting it. cops are in debt just as much as everyone else, and they are taking shortcuts because of their stresses.

the only difference is that when a cop takes shortcuts its called being a dirty cop, i.e. police corruption.

last thing I would ever aprove of as a voter would be a more militaristic inhuman police force... ever.

Police need to be more like this:

-- shit.. So I spent like 3 or 4 minuets goggling to find some positive articles on police officers making communities safe and happy places for kids to play in.. I saw an article once where this cop was just - he seemed like one of my high school teachers, he was warm, talking to kids it was great, he was like Robocop was when everyone loved him in the movie before OCP reprogrammed him to be an asshole.

anyway, I searched first Police officer friendly --- and google auto filled it to friendly fire.. then I tried police officer making a difference.. and all it did was find links to jobs sections of various districts... I'll move ahead, my point is - its not because of a lack of reporting, its bemuse of a lack of source material for there to be articles about cops doing GOOD things and being community leaders..

Cops should always be positive community leaders, they should have a smile on their face and nobody should ever fear them. They are there to serve us to help us and make our lives better. They should be welcoming to conversation and open to discussion.

How anyone approves of someone having deadly authority over them in a free nation with blue skies and plenty of jobs, is fucking mind boggling to me...

[MrSparkle001]

You guys do know that gun rights have nothing to do with the gun violence seen in cities like Chicago right? Or do you think the guns these gangbangers are using are all legal?

[iruinedyourday]

You guys do know that gun rights have nothing to do with the gun violence seen in cities like Chicago right? Or do you think the guns these gangbangers are using are all legal?

who the fuck here is talking about guns?

[Leeyuuduu]

my opinion is that the police should be set up like the military. i mean that when people work as police officers, they are police officers 24/7. there should be police housing where only the police live, and they should work terms of 4 or 8 years at a time. everything should be paid for, and they should receive pay on top of that (just like the military).

this whole system we have now, where police have mortgages, cheating lovers, kids, and other civilian problems.. this just isnt cutting it. cops are in debt just as much as everyone else, and they are taking shortcuts because of their stresses.

the only difference is that when a cop takes shortcuts its called being a dirty cop, i.e. police corruption.

A lot of what you said is already true. Many police jobs are already incredibly cushy, with very generous pensions and pay that is not linked to performance. There's also a lot of abuse of their overtime hour system. All this, and in most places they don't even face half the risk that soldiers do. But no politician wants to take on any of these things because of the police and firefighter unions and public perception. Just look at Detroit, most public workers, except for cops, will be forced to take huge pension cuts because of the bankruptcy. I live in an area where crime is also non-existent, and do you know how much the cops are making?

Honestly the problems you describe affect soldiers themselves much more than they do police officers. Police officers rarely get PTSD or have limbs blown off.

[Leeyuuduu]

A lot of what you said is already true. Many police jobs are already incredibly cushy, with very generous pensions and pay that is not linked to performance. There's also a lot of abuse of their overtime hour system. All this, and in most places they don't even face half the risk that soldiers do. But no politician wants to take on any of these things because of the police and firefighter unions and public perception. Just look at Detroit, most public workers, except for cops, will be forced to take huge pension cuts because of the bankruptcy. I live in an area where crime is also non-existent, and do you know how much the cops are making? 70-80k on average.

Honestly the problems you describe affect soldiers themselves much more than they do police officers. Police officers rarely get PTSD or have limbs blown off.

[Clark]

my opinion is that the police should be set up like the military. i mean that when people work as police officers, they are police officers 24/7. there should be police housing where only the police live, and they should work terms of 4 or 8 years at a time. everything should be paid for, and they should receive pay on top of that (just like the military).

this whole system we have now, where police have mortgages, cheating lovers, kids, and other civilian problems.. this just isnt cutting it. cops are in debt just as much as everyone else, and they are taking shortcuts because of their stresses.

the only difference is that when a cop takes shortcuts its called being a dirty cop, i.e. police corruption.

[radditsu]

At least a MP wont shoot your dog.

[Misto]

Cops should always be positive community leaders, they should have a smile on their face and nobody should ever fear them.

I don't fear the police. But then again, I am not a gorilla, taught to hate and disrespect the police.

[iruinedyourday]

I don't fear the police. But then again, I am not a gorilla, taught to hate and disrespect the police.

well yea you probably rarely leave your house, lucky for us.

[Misto]

well yea you probably rarely leave your house, lucky for us.

Maybe you can go from school to school and tell dumb ******s everywhere that throwing a punch at a police officer or someone with a loaded fire arm may result in a trip to the morgue.

[iruinedyourday]

Maybe you can go from school to school and tell dumb ******s everywhere that throwing a punch at a police officer or someone with a loaded fire arm may result in a trip to the morgue.

poor goth doesnt like black peoplz so sad

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-uDcqUD-6DYw/Ud0njZvlVNI/AAAAAAAAARQ/btp11q4UOBo/s1600/penn2_1112747a.jpg

[Misto]

If it's a cause you support then you should be on the front lines man.

Take a few vacation days and fly down there and picket with them.

[iruinedyourday]

If it's a cause you support then you should be on the front lines man.

Take a few vacation days and fly down there and picket with them.

responding to this is a trap.

[phacemeltar]

If it's a cause you support then you should be on the front lines man.

Take a few vacation days and fly down there and picket with them.

i had a girl at work tell me i should go to ferguson and help riot... im like nty i dont like tear gas

[Maddox]

This thread needs more racism and less judging.

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTMBTjYB0prtkmLJMItZbLXyCGM_xeRc 41xIwTR8PAvh-kSwIVuzg

[KagatobLuvsAnimu]

i had a girl at work tell me i should go to ferguson and help riot... im like nty i dont like tear gas

I'm on my phone, can someone post a joker meme about government getting paid vacation and nobody cares, cop shoots a black kid and everybody loses it?

This fucking country and its priorities.

[KagatobLuvsAnimu]

Hi Rellapse. Nice to see your jimmies are still rustled from over a week ago. :cool:

[KagatobLuvsAnimu]

Rellapse paying in this thread is funny. He's clearly the most racist person on the forums yet it's for zero constructive reasons, instead he just worships the southern cross because that's what daddy taught him. Makes me wonder if he's ever even encountered a non-white in Bumblefuck Alabama.

[iruinedyourday]

There are constructive reasons to be racist?

[KagatobLuvsAnimu]

There are constructive reasons to be racist?

I'm sorry, once again I abbreviated having open eyes, respecting facts and n sugarcoating the truth as "constructive racism". It's just easier that way, I mean I'm saving you race baiters the trouble of calling me racist for pointing out the rioters have their priorities fucked.

[Koota]

this thread is fucking shit.

[Pokesan]

i wish i lived in a world where kagatob is dead from anal rape

[Pokesan]

to clarify - i want kagatob to be raped to death

[Champion_Standing]

I blame the Federal Reserve.

[radditsu]

to clarify - i want kagatob to be raped to death

[KagatobLuvsAnimu]

Isn't it nice when those who deem themselves morally superior because of their guilt have no problem wishing horrible things upon others?

[Glenzig]

Isn't it nice when those who deem themselves morally superior because of their guilt have no problem wishing horrible things upon others?

What is this guilt you keep referring to?

[DetroitVelvetSmooth]

Isn't it nice when those who deem themselves morally superior because of their guilt have no problem wishing horrible things upon others?

I think you are misinterpreting. I think based on what we all know about you the assumption was that you would, in fact, enjoy the entire process. It would be like one of your anime dvds except you die at the end! Which, lets face it, is probably for the best.

[iruinedyourday]

Isn't it nice when those who deem themselves morally superior because of their guilt have no problem wishing horrible things upon others?

rofl nobody's got any guilt or deeming themselves morally superior, however a lot of people are calling you a jackass racist.

[KagatobLuvsAnimu]

rofl nobody's got any guilt or deeming themselves morally superior, however a lot of people are calling you a jackass racist.

http://i.imgur.com/uZSMVft.jpg

Also by calling me a "jackass racist" they are indeed "deeming themselves morally superior".

[iruinedyourday]

http://i.imgur.com/uZSMVft.jpg

Also by calling me a "jackass racist" they are indeed "deeming themselves morally superior".

well, you said it.

[DetroitVelvetSmooth]

We've been calling you names all along... though I'm not surprised someone like you has learned to ignore that kind of thing.

[KagatobLuvsAnimu]

well, you said it.

Said what again? The truth? What is with this obsession of sugar coating shit just because black people are involved? You do realize that that's exactly what perpetuates the racism you so despise. Don't you?

[DetroitVelvetSmooth]

We can only hope that through constant ridicule you will feel bad enough about yourself to just shut the fuck up. Reread the thread, it has been explained to you why you are a shitty human. Anime dvd fire, moms basement, polyester companion pillow melted onto underused wilted dick. Should have popped for the cotton.

[iruinedyourday]

Said what again?

you said that we are morally superior.

dafuk you even talking about anyway now, sugar coat? blacks involved?

yall is fucking crazy with your cartoon dvds and shit.

[Arclyte]

why are the ugliest and dumbest group of people on this planet angry?

probably because they're aware on some level that they are ugly and stupid

[KagatobLuvsAnimu]

you said that we are morally superior.
Not a single time actually. Stating the fact that you are claiming moral superiority is not saying you are morally superior. Do you even English language?
dafuk you even talking about anyway now, sugar coat? blacks involved?
Have you even read a single post in this thread? Do you not understand the very simple concept of race baiting? Are you just trolling at this point?
yall is fucking crazy with your cartoon dvds and shit.

http://i.imgur.com/uZSMVft.jpg

[DetroitVelvetSmooth]

Do you not understand the very simple concept of race baiting? Are you just trolling at this point?

http://i.imgur.com/uZSMVft.jpg

This is the product of a diseased mind. What kind of person breaks down in an argument and actually says that? "God, what about race baiting do I have to explain to you? Jesus guys, this guy doesn't even race bait!"

I now hope that your mom walks in on your autoerotically asphyxiated corpse, slips on your butt lube, knocks over your imported japanese incense, and starts the anime-dvd/polyester companion pillow fire that kills you both.

[Skinned]

why are the ugliest and dumbest group of people on this planet angry?

probably because they're aware on some level that they are ugly and stupid

Talking about the racists incapable of doing two-step equations here? Totally.

Racism should be classified as a mental illness at best.

[Misto]

You'd think black people would be intelligent enough to cover their face if they're going to rob a convenience store for blunt paper.

[Misto]

It's laughable that you guys think a police officer would risk his cushy job and pension to kill a gorilla.

Hell, he could do that when he gets off work.

[Nirgon]

This is the product of a diseased mind. What kind of person breaks down in an argument and actually says that? "God, what about race baiting do I have to explain to you? Jesus guys, this guy doesn't even race bait!"

I now hope that your mom walks in on your autoerotically asphyxiated corpse, slips on your butt lube, knocks over your imported japanese incense, and starts the anime-dvd/polyester companion pillow fire that kills you both.

gatdayum

[Peatree]

this thread is fucking shit.

What's ironic is your avatar just might be the most relevant visual of this whole thread.

[Tenlaar]

What's ironic is your avatar just might be the most relevant visual of this whole thread.

Nope, yours is.

[Ryba]

http://i.imgur.com/uZSMVft.jpg

Ahh yes, denial: the last refuge of the defeated and fat.

[KagatobLuvsAnimu]

More ad-hominem. Can't handle this, I'm so defeated!

[iruinedyourday]

More ad-hominem. Can't handle this, I'm so defeated!

N*ggers gonna be n*ggers. Idiots like you asking stupid questions like that only fuels their rage though. You're equally part of the problem, congrats. :)

[phacemeltar]

http://i.imgur.com/9axVdJI.jpg

[KagatobLuvsAnimu]

Oh. Are you suddenly implying that it's not stupid to ask why black people in America are angry? It's hidden special knowledge for the privileged only? Is it something that only a select few have figured out? Are you going to post another Milhouse .gif because I'm looking at individuals instead of knee-jerkingly praising black people overall for their struggle?

[Lojik]

Is deruislove account dead?

[Skinned]

More ad-hominem. Can't handle this, I'm so defeated!

Racism itself is ad hominem. Your argument here is self-defeating.

[KagatobLuvsAnimu]

Is deruislove account dead?

Nah, got sick of it. Too many dumbasses didn't realize I created it ironically and thought I was legit praising him with the name.

[What A Guy]

Racism itself is ad hominem. Your argument here is self-defeating.

Unless we're talking about the Scottish. :cool:

[iruinedyourday]

Oh. Are you suddenly implying that it's not stupid to ask why black people in America are angry? It's hidden special knowledge for the privileged only? Is it something that only a select few have figured out? Are you going to post another Milhouse .gif because I'm looking at individuals instead of knee-jerkingly praising black people overall for their struggle?

Holy shit you are fucking so stupid .

[Skinned]

Unless we're talking about the Scottish. :cool:

We all know there is no true Scotsman, are you living in a fantasy world?


:cool:

[KagatobLuvsAnimu]

Racism itself is ad hominem. Your argument here is self-defeating.

Ad-hominem is attacking someone's character as a way to win an argument/debate. While the idea of racism certainly leads to many arguments/debates, as an institution it has nothing to do with arguments/debate and everything to do with control. See: Slavery, segregation, ethnic cleansing, etc..

[KagatobLuvsAnimu]

Holy shit you are fucking so stupid .

Such a constructive reply. Your stance is getting stronger with each post! :rolleyes:

[Skinned]

Ad-hominem is attacking someone's character as a way to win an argument/debate. While the idea of racism certainly leads to many arguments/debates, as an institution it has nothing to do with arguments/debate and everything to do with control. See: Slavery, segregation, ethnic cleansing, etc..

Slavery, segregation, ethnic cleansing, and what is occurring in Ferguson is definitely racism of a structural level, which is better described as discrimination, as racism doesn't have the power component in it, while discrimination does.

A more fundamental question here is: even if you think the man who was killed by the police was a strong-arm thug, are you willing to relinquish the presumption of innocence? From your position in this thread it seems so, but only for one demographic of citizen and not another. Are you ready to go down this road? Or are you acting in a way that you wouldn't want to be the universal maxim given the situation?

[Glenzig]

Oh. Are you suddenly implying that it's not stupid to ask why black people in America are angry? It's hidden special knowledge for the privileged only? Is it something that only a select few have figured out? Are you going to post another Milhouse .gif because I'm looking at individuals instead of knee-jerkingly praising black people overall for their struggle?

[Rattle Squirrell]

Slavery, segregation, ethnic cleansing, and what is occurring in Ferguson is definitely racism of a structural level, which is better described as discrimination, as racism doesn't have the power component in it, while discrimination does.

A more fundamental question here is: even if you think the man who was killed by the police was a strong-arm thug, are you willing to relinquish the presumption of innocence? From your position in this thread it seems so, but only for one demographic of citizen and not another. Are you ready to go down this road? Or are you acting in a way that you wouldn't want to be the universal maxim given the situation?

Wut?

[KagatobLuvsAnimu]

Slavery, segregation, ethnic cleansing, and what is occurring in Ferguson is definitely racism of a structural level, which is better described as discrimination, as racism doesn't have the power component in it, while discrimination does.

A more fundamental question here is: even if you think the man who was killed by the police was a strong-arm thug, are you willing to relinquish the presumption of innocence? From your position in this thread it seems so, but only for one demographic of citizen and not another. Are you ready to go down this road? Or are you acting in a way that you wouldn't want to be the universal maxim given the situation?

I would say the most accurate description of the stance that I take at any given time is to look at the available facts and roll with what is currently the most probable outcome. The beauty of only being figuratively judge and jury in this instance means that I am able to jump the gun and make a call without potentially harming the party in question.

In in virtually any situation including this particular instance I agree that the cop was wrong to shoot an unarmed person, even if he robbed a store, even if he was a gang member, race is irrelevant when it comes to me making that judgement, even if the shooting itself was likely racially motivated. As more information comes in, we are starting to see the other side (the cops story) gaining more and more weight. Is it enough to make their side of the argument the truth? For me, not yet. I'm not even close to backing off and going neutral on it yet, I still believe the cops overstepped their bounds.

With all of that said, the bulk of the discussion in this thread is in regards to the rioters in the aftermath of said shooting, whom while completely justified in their anguish and anger are absolutely not justified in looting/assaulting/vandalizing or anything else that they've done beyond peaceful protesting.
Complaining about the mere presence of police in the area even though it's been allegedly mostly peaceful since the looting is wrong as well, since it's standard practice to have a police presence in any situation that has the potential to get violent such as *gasp* a place with active protest that recently had a riot.
Sure the cops are being dicks here too, they are teargassing news reporters and non-violent civilians and everyone caught being part of that should be fired on the spot. Despite that, it's still zero justification for more looting/rioting.

I'd have a plethora of respect for the protesters if they decided to raid the police station or city hall as opposed to destroying the homes and businesses of their fellow citizens. Calling for a revolution and then burning down a QuickTrip doesn't add up no matter what numerical system you use.

I'm looking at facts first, if I make a racial quip after first looking at the facts/statistics (I never claimed to be a saint) too bad. I still consider pointing out a group of black people acting stereotypical black to be observant as opposed to racist. Note that I point out their actions after they've taken them, I try not to claim "of course the blacks did this, are you surprised?" because I mostly don't think that way and when I do it's because I'm hedging my bets based on social trends from which my personal opinion is irrelevant.

I hope that answered your questions.

[Rust1d?]

http://i.imgur.com/QO4aSqi.jpg

[DetroitVelvetSmooth]

[QUOTE=KagatobLuvsAnimu;1577814 It's hidden special knowledge for the privileged only? Is it something that only a select few have figured out? [/QUOTE]

The word you are searching for is esoteric.
http://i.imgur.com/oinVx.gif
Everyone here hates you, even the people that agree with you. time to /wrist and fuck on off down the road.

[Orruar]

Slavery, segregation, ethnic cleansing, and what is occurring in Ferguson is definitely racism of a structural level, which is better described as discrimination, as racism doesn't have the power component in it, while discrimination does.

A more fundamental question here is: even if you think the man who was killed by the police was a strong-arm thug, are you willing to relinquish the presumption of innocence? From your position in this thread it seems so, but only for one demographic of citizen and not another. Are you ready to go down this road? Or are you acting in a way that you wouldn't want to be the universal maxim given the situation?

Who relinquished the presumption of innocence? The police have to engage innocent people all the time who may fit the description of a crime. And if someone then assaults and attempts to take the officer's gun, it doesn't matter if that person was a serial killer or a pure soul who is completely innocent of all other crimes. He wasn't killed for stealing cigars. He was killed in the process of assaulting an officer, supposedly. The robbery he was apparently involved in minutes earlier is important in that it makes the officer's version of the story seem more plausible. And just like with the Trayvon situation, hopefully people will wait until all of the evidence is released before jumping to conclusions on this case.

[DetroitVelvetSmooth]

Blah blah blah I thought I was with my racist friends and didn't know you all hated me so much. Waaaaahh! I'm going back to 4-chan where when we have a fight we just trade some anime porn and It all works out.

[Rust1d?]

There is an obvious problem with the black community. Children without fathers, and or mothers. No family structure. Just go watch The Wire, I know it is TV but it pretty much explains the black community.

Blacks killing each other over stupid shit like disrespect etc. Kids selling drugs to support the family.

The shit just keeps going on and it never changes. They do not want an education, so they end up speaking ebonics and have no clue how to do math.

[DetroitVelvetSmooth]

I understand the complex issues at hand when discussing matters of race.

****** ****** ****** ******

[Skinned]

I would say the most accurate description of the stance that I take at any given time is to look at the available facts and roll with what is currently the most probable outcome. The beauty of only being figuratively judge and jury in this instance means that I am able to jump the gun and make a call without potentially harming the party in question.

In in virtually any situation including this particular instance I agree that the cop was wrong to shoot an unarmed person, even if he robbed a store, even if he was a gang member, race is irrelevant when it comes to me making that judgement, even if the shooting itself was likely racially motivated. As more information comes in, we are starting to see the other side (the cops story) gaining more and more weight. Is it enough to make their side of the argument the truth? For me, not yet. I'm not even close to backing off and going neutral on it yet, I still believe the cops overstepped their bounds.

With all of that said, the bulk of the discussion in this thread is in regards to the rioters in the aftermath of said shooting, whom while completely justified in their anguish and anger are absolutely not justified in looting/assaulting/vandalizing or anything else that they've done beyond peaceful protesting.
Complaining about the mere presence of police in the area even though it's been allegedly mostly peaceful since the looting is wrong as well, since it's standard practice to have a police presence in any situation that has the potential to get violent such as *gasp* a place with active protest that recently had a riot.
Sure the cops are being dicks here too, they are teargassing news reporters and non-violent civilians and everyone caught being part of that should be fired on the spot. Despite that, it's still zero justification for more looting/rioting.

I'd have a plethora of respect for the protesters if they decided to raid the police station or city hall as opposed to destroying the homes and businesses of their fellow citizens. Calling for a revolution and then burning down a QuickTrip doesn't add up no matter what numerical system you use.

I'm looking at facts first, if I make a racial quip after first looking at the facts/statistics (I never claimed to be a saint) too bad. I still consider pointing out a group of black people acting stereotypical black to be observant as opposed to racist. Note that I point out their actions after they've taken them, I try not to claim "of course the blacks did this, are you surprised?" because I mostly don't think that way and when I do it's because I'm hedging my bets based on social trends from which my personal opinion is irrelevant.

I hope that answered your questions.

Raiding the police station would just lead to firing squads, and they would share the fate of Nat Turner.

But that is even being optimistic, as people who are acting in revolution are seeking to overturn the existing social order under idealistic pretenses...it almost requires a certain optimism.

When you get to rioting, you are hearing the language of those with no voices. People ask why they are tearing up their own communities, but they don't own any of that stuff, they're tenets or worse. What we are seeing here is an expression of nihilism pure and simple.

What happens to a dream deferred? It seems like Ferguson never got the memo that Jim Crow ended considering how segregated the area is and how power is distributed.

You seem bright, you have to see this.

[Susvain2]

this thread sucks

[phacemeltar]

this thread sucks

[iruinedyourday]

There is an obvious problem with the black community. Children without fathers, and or mothers. No family structure. Just go watch The Wire, I know it is TV but it pretty much explains the black community.

Blacks killing each other over stupid shit like disrespect etc. Kids selling drugs to support the family.

The shit just keeps going on and it never changes. They do not want an education, so they end up speaking ebonics and have no clue how to do math.

maybe if the nation spent more money putting youth centers and paying good people money to work with the desperate people they would be able to help guide them in the same direction you're parents guided the slightly more privileged people of the nation.

[Peatree]

Scientists Rediscover the Violence Gene, MAOA-2R

http://theunsilencedscience.blogspot.com/2012/12/scientists-rediscover-violence-gene.html

[DetroitVelvetSmooth]

Scientists Rediscover the Violence Gene, MAOA-2R

http://theunsilencedscience.blogspot.com/2012/12/scientists-rediscover-violence-gene.html

The phrase "thinly veiled" comes to mind. At least you don't see the crackpots using the alta-vista format anymore. They are now using blogspot! Kinda scary because you actually have to read a little bit before you realize you are basically on stormfront.org. HES A SCIENTURST THOGH!!! lol

[DetroitVelvetSmooth]

First 2 quotes at the top of the article are sanjay gupta and dr phil! gahahaha!

[Pico]

I was born in the 1980s and was taught to respect my elders. Just because your parents did a shit job doesn't mean you should be projecting it on everyone else.

lol not too sure your parents did a good job raising you by any objective metric mr racist fat anime lover

[Pico]

scoffs, my parents did a great job raising me and teaching me empathy, compassion and respect towards my fellow man

*yells something about ******s*
*recommends atlas shrugged to friends and family*

[radditsu]

Picoooooooooooooooo

[KagatobLuvsAnimu]

Your formatting is abhorrent as usual Pico.

[Glenzig]

Your formatting is abhorrent as usual Pico.

Please refrain from ad-hominem attacks sir.

[KagatobLuvsAnimu]

Please refrain from ad-hominem attacks sir.

Nah, responding to posts exclusively containing ad-hominem with more ad-hominem is ok in my book.

[iruinedyourday]

only idiots use the words ad hominem on the internet.