View Full Version : Why does staff allow item MQ?
TrendyDru
08-25-2014, 12:00 AM
I don't ever remember being able to MQ items back in kunark and velious. This promotes contested camping of mobs. And makes it so average joes won't even stand a chance for most things in end game even if they have the force to kill it. Mobs will continue to be camped to hell and back because they can make money off selling the over priced MQ's.
Ones that specifically comes to mind are Ragefire and Lodizal. These both will be camped until the end of P99 simply because guys who can perma camp them can make a KILLING off the MQ. Rather than getting your item and moving on.
I understand Lodi will be perma camped for months after Velious launch but after a while it would start to open up if you aren't able to sell it.
MQ'ing will undoubtably be my final straw for P99. Not tomorrow or next week. But one day i know that'll be the reason I quit. :(
I'd like to hear some of the official responses that staff has given in regards to why they allow it and don't just make all quests including epics non MQable.
Cecily
08-25-2014, 12:04 AM
TL;DR
b/c classic
Thulack
08-25-2014, 12:07 AM
I don't ever remember being able to MQ items back in kunark and velious. This promotes contested camping of mobs. And makes it so average joes won't even stand a chance for most things in end game even if they have the force to kill it. Mobs will continue to be camped to hell and back because they can make money off selling the over priced MQ's.
Ones that specifically comes to mind are Ragefire and Lodizal. These both will be camped until the end of P99 simply because guys who can perma camp them can make a KILLING off the MQ. Rather than getting your item and moving on.
I understand Lodi will be perma camped for months after Velious launch but after a while it would start to open up if you aren't able to sell it.
MQ'ing will undoubtably be my final straw for P99. Not tomorrow or next week. But one day i know that'll be the reason I quit. :(
I'd like to hear some of the official responses that staff has given in regards to why they allow it and don't just make all quests including epics non MQable.
Can't MQ the piece for Haste mask. It's a combine in a container. Lodi is camped for his belt and shield.
Bruno
08-25-2014, 12:09 AM
I don't ever remember
It was technically classic but it never proliferated during that era like it has here. When you play this game a lot, and you spend 3 years in Kunark era, it gives you time to get your epic.... and then another epic... and then another, and another.
There are many class R guilds where all they really do is farm up epic MQ's like a big EVE corporation and bag their occasional raid mob. Take that away and suddenly if you want to make some cash you have to... *gasp* go to sebilis and camp something with your pals!?!? There would be riots.
Bboboo
08-25-2014, 12:25 AM
Well Kunark was only out for like a yearish before Velious came out.
We didn't have the internet like we do today.
I'm sure it happened just wasn't publicized.
Nocsucow
08-25-2014, 12:27 AM
because its classic ... quit crying
TrendyDru
08-25-2014, 12:37 AM
Exactly. I was 14 during kunark. I don't remember that's why I said I don't rember instead of "THIS WASNT CLASSIC!!!"
iruinedyourday
08-25-2014, 12:37 AM
the only diff between ragefire with or without MQ is that cleric noobs would camp out and ask to loot the heart every time someone farmed ragefire for the plethora of non epic related gear he drops.
TrendyDru
08-25-2014, 12:38 AM
because its classic ... quit crying
Calm down nerd. No tears here.
zanderklocke
08-25-2014, 12:38 AM
This thread again?
because its classic ... quit crying
RMT more
Bboboo
08-25-2014, 01:00 AM
Exactly. I was 14 during kunark. I don't remember that's why I said I don't rember instead of "THIS WASNT CLASSIC!!!"
Well you kinda of implied that MQs shouldn't be allowed with the thread title.
I remember there always being Dervish groups in Nro, almost competitively, and that zone is mostly dead when I pass through it. So can we have GMs change this because it's clearly not classic to me.
TrendyDru
08-25-2014, 01:04 AM
Well you kinda of implied that MQs shouldn't be allowed with the thread title.
I remember there always being Dervish groups in Nro, almost competitively, and that zone is mostly dead when I pass through it. So can we have GMs change this because it's clearly not classic to me.
Touché bro. Touché. Although it's just my personal opinion, but if full on epics weren't so easily MQed it would cut back on the majority of RMT plat income. Just the way I see it.
Clark
08-25-2014, 02:33 AM
I wouldn't mind seeing mq's removed.
Nocsucow
08-25-2014, 03:03 AM
RMT more
never have rmt'd sorry
fastboy21
08-25-2014, 03:15 AM
I don't see the obvious connection between RMT and MQing that some folks are describing. The big RMT draws are raw plat and high end/valuable droppable items...no MQ needed.
MQing is part of the game. The real issues you are describing are being caused by the over inflation of the economy due to static server for so long at Kunark era. Velious release will ease this pressure, but in the end this is going to be a static velious era server. The only solution here is to wipe the server or open a new one every four or five years. Since that isn't likely for other reasons you kind of stuck accepting the downsides of playing EQ on a static server so far off timeline.
Widan
08-25-2014, 03:19 AM
I don't see the obvious connection between RMT and MQing that some folks are describing. The big RMT draws are raw plat and high end/valuable droppable items...no MQ needed.
The big RMT draws are epics.
fastboy21
08-25-2014, 03:30 AM
The big RMT draws are epics.
I don't think this is true. Every RMT ring I know or have known about did not deal primarily in epics. Plat is universal.
I am not saying ppl don't RMT epics, just that the huge issue of our over epic server is not primarily a function of the RMT problem.
Bboboo
08-25-2014, 03:35 AM
Talking out of my ass but I sorta agree with epic MQs not really being tied in with RMTing.
I'm sure what we think is tied to RMTing could possibly be the farthest from it and the GMs just have a giggle everything these threads come along. We'll probably never know 100% though.
Widan
08-25-2014, 03:37 AM
I don't think this is true. Every RMT ring I know or have known about did not deal primarily in epics. Plat is universal.
I am not saying ppl don't RMT epics, just that the huge issue of our over epic server is not primarily a function of the RMT problem.
What do you think people are buying with the platinum they RMT? (Epics)
fastboy21
08-25-2014, 04:15 AM
What do you think people are buying with the platinum they RMT? (Epics)
What they buy with RMT plat isn't relevant to the point I was making. If you take MQ epics out of the economy, RMT demand wouldn't take a huge hit.
Widan
08-25-2014, 04:26 AM
If you take MQ epics out of the economy, RMT demand wouldn't take a huge hit.
Wrong.
fastboy21
08-25-2014, 05:00 AM
Wrong.
Evidence? Or even some reasoning why you believe this?
RMT was going very strong, actually even stronger, on p99 before Kunark launch. (So not for epics.)
The big surge in epics on p99 has to do with how cheap some of them are...the reason for some epics being so cheap is a general problem with the p99 economy, not RMT directly.
The diverting path that this line of the discussion came from was someone's assertion that the MQ problems afflicting the server were connected to RMT. My point is that they are two separate issues.
Ravager
08-25-2014, 07:36 AM
Well you kinda of implied that MQs shouldn't be allowed with the thread title.
I remember there always being Dervish groups in Nro, almost competitively, and that zone is mostly dead when I pass through it. So can we have GMs change this because it's clearly not classic to me.
The dervs have their busy days still. Proximity to ec makes sure of that.
vBulletin® v3.8.11, Copyright ©2000-2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.