The real story behind the Nihilum forced disbanding.

[Arkaan]

Also I spent more on Clash on Clans last month then I did on Nizzars PC.

This, ladies and gentlemen, is the eventuality of RMT.

I hope you all enjoy games like Clash of Clans, and other empty, pay-to-win titles. Because that is where we are here.

And it is all thanks to each and every person who has ever supported RMT.

[Kergan]

You didn't find it odd that he had 100% raid attendance over 3 years?

Not even close, he was very active but nobody had 100% or even 90%. Plus he took a multiple month break on more than one occasion.

Regardless, who cares how people spend their free time? People playing on an EQ emu judging other people and how much they play an EQ emu is the very definition of the pot calling the kettle black.

[Stasis01]

Probably because he did have close to 100% raid attendance - and his free time made this box a no reputation, warm body mentality, PVE farm box so he could sell pixels to make welfare sized checks?

I read your posts and want to stab myself in the eyes Kergan, well done with your ignorant style forumquesting.

[Clark]

nah i spend too many hours in that already.

lol

[Stasis01]

GOD RMT DISGUSTS ME

HAHAHA I GET IT IT's FUNNY BECAUSE YOU PAY MONEY TO MAKE PEOPLE THINK YOU'RE GOOD.

Didn't work.

[Stasis01]

How many old men diapers and shitty bed sheets you have to change 2 get that AON?

WELL WORTH IT.

[mitic]

elderan could buy a fucking porsche for nizzar and it wouldnt still be RMT.

IF nizzar would have given for example just 1 (one) iron ration in exchange for the computer, THEN it would have been RMT.

[Mac Drettj]

How many old men diapers and shitty bed sheets you have to change 2 get that AON?

WELL WORTH IT.

dont you also change old men diapers and shitty beds for a quarter of the pay?

[Kergan]

Probably because he did have close to 100% raid attendance - and his free time made this box a no reputation, warm body mentality, PVE farm box so he could sell pixels to make welfare sized checks?

I read your posts and want to stab myself in the eyes Kergan, well done with your ignorant style forumquesting.

You think 1 person behind a computer was able to manipulate thousands of different individuals over time into behaving differently than they wanted to, while simultaneously using their efforts to make enough money to live on, all the while controlling R99 and the perception of every player to log in single-handed.

And I'm the ignorant one.

[Sear]

http://www.keynotespeakerscanada.ca/sites/keynotespeakerscanada.ca/files/imagecache/SpeakerImage/koyczanweb1_0.jpg

[Stasis01]

You think 1 person behind a computer was able to manipulate thousands of different individuals over time into behaving differently than they wanted to, while simultaneously using their efforts to make enough money to live on, all the while controlling R99 and the perception of every player to log in single-handed.

And I'm the ignorant one.

Essentially yes.

Although I don't think he made that much money, and it was most likely a mix between being a sick deranged fuck and making a bit of side cash having no life.

Sitting on a million+ red, with the blue exchange rate and ease of market to RMT to, he would have been crazy not to.

I can't believe people went along with that model for so long like sheep.

[Kergan]

Most people aren't psychopaths who treat in game encounters as some personal vendetta, have permanent and crippling personality disorders and use the anonymity of the internet to attack people over a video game on a daily basis. Believe it or not, the majority of the player base is instead made up of people who enjoy EQ and this emu and aren't worried if the PVP is a perfect 30v30 every time, who is winning and losing the server, and most importantly give 0 flying fucks if someone made $40 off selling an elf pixel.

So if by "went along with that model for so long like sheep", you mean joined a guild that supported casual play, some PVP for fun and seeing some of the content you missed the first time around then sure yeah, lots of us sheep in there. I am thankful to Nizzar for providing an environment I could see some pixel gains and meet some pals while playing less than an hour a day on average.

[Genedin]

I don't care about RMT at all...

But can we all agree to stop saying that Nizzar only RMT'd $40 his entire tenure in Nihilum?

thanks.

[Kergan]

I'll agree to that if people will agree to stop calling Nihilum some RMT scheme that people were just getting bent over rails left and right to pay for guild officer utility bills.

He sold some shit. Who cares.

[Elderan]

Rogean doesn't deal with RMT at all. If anything RMT related gets brought to his attention he just forwards it to me. That being said, I never got anything from Rogean related to Nizzar/Sektors, except a skype call a few months later confirming the reasons for Sektors name change/unban/epic rollback. I meticulously log everything I do (and encourage/beat the rest of the staff to do the same) so that it's easy to verify what's going on (in this case, I had a thread explaining the situation and the exact date it all took place, so all he had to do was point the event log to that day and confirm). I'm assuming that phonecall was a result of tinfoil hats spamming him with "ermagwahd deruballz korrupt!!11one" pms.

The Sektor account trading came in the form of a petition thread after Sektor had snitched. My assumption would be that Sektor bragged to the wrong person about giving up Nizzar info to the staff, who bragged to another wrong person, who bragged to another, etc etc until it reached Nizzar, who then snitched on Sektor. The timing was just too coincidental for it to be anything else.


Derubael, Once I was aware of the situation I took care of it to ensure it never would happen again. I told you this over and over but you felt some great desire to punish and seem to take it personally. After all this is just a game and all I wanted to do was play with friends.

You personally destroyed that for no good reason.

[Nirgon]

jesus

[Colgate]

Derubael, Once I was aware of the situation I took care of it to ensure it never would happen again. I told you this over and over but you felt some great desire to punish and seem to take it personally. After all this is just a game and all I wanted to do was play with friends.

You personally destroyed that for no good reason.

your friend broke the rules, got slapped on the wrist and told not to break the rules anymore, and he went ahead and did it again

you're a fucking idiot dawg, kill yourself

[Elderan]

your friend broke the rules, got slapped on the wrist and told not to break the rules anymore, and he went ahead and did it again

you're a fucking idiot dawg, kill yourself

Broke the rules, was punished harshly. Never broke another rule and was issued the worst punishment ever on R99.

Just the facts.

[quido]

Good to see you, Elderan. We all missed you.

[Elderan]

Good to see you, Elderan. We all missed you.

Just came back to post because someone linked me the video. It was amusing with the amount of lies in it. I wont correct them all here because there is no point but it was amusing.

[Colgate]

Broke the rules, was punished harshly. Never broke another rule and was issued the worst punishment ever on R99.

Just the facts.

if you truly believe this then refer to my previous post

mainly the part about you being an idiot and killing yourself

[Eslade]

Just came back to post because someone linked me the video. It was amusing with the amount of lies in it. I wont correct them all here because there is no point but it was amusing.

Is amusing a new synonym for true?

[Elderan]

if you truly believe this then refer to my previous post

mainly the part about you being an idiot and killing yourself

One day when you grow up, you will understand how stupid you sound in the vast majority of your post.

[Colgate]

haha

[sotto]

how much is nizzars salary to play videogames with u elderan

[Burgerking]

Why does everyone care still, it's in the past, I personally don't know what went on with Nihilum and I for one don't care. Enough interesting stuff going on right now. I also don't care about RMT sooo many people RMT'd here, it's like watching convicts accuse other prisoners of crimes.

[Xaanka]

Broke the rules, was punished harshly. Never broke another rule and was issued the worst punishment ever on R99.

Just the facts.

this guy in denial

[Xaanka]

your friend broke the rules, got slapped on the wrist and told not to break the rules anymore, and he went ahead and did it again

you're a fucking idiot dawg, kill yourself

tl;dr for all of this drama right here, summed up nice and concisely

[Gnomegrown]

first level 60 on live is still chuckling me hard

[Mac Drettj]

elderan is a good person hes just very misinformed and the person hes blindly defending is letting him continue to make misinformed comments and look foolish

[Supreme]

Ho Lee Fuk.

Nihilum is disbanded and Nizzar is banned.

Get over it and breathe.

[Pikrib]

Ho Lee Fuk.

Nihilum is disbanded and Nizzar is banned.

Get over it and breathe.

Nizzar, wasn't he first slain on R99 by Sektor duel weilding warrior epics only to have his warrior the epics destroyed in the final battle?

I believe in the second battle Nizzar was slain by HB, Terp, and many others in an massive battle where people weilded Nihilum forum posts, and magicked up TS voice recordings. I still to this day do not know who caused the final blow. Nizzar no longer spawns because the GM's removed him from the spawn table.

p.s. I don't have to breathe because I keep my trusty fishbone earring equiped.

[Kergan]

Nizzar, wasn't he first slain on R99 by Sektor duel weilding warrior epics only to have his warrior the epics destroyed in the final battle?

I believe in the second battle Nizzar was slain by HB, Terp, and many others in an massive battle where people weilded Nihilum forum posts, and magicked up TS voice recordings. I still to this day do not know who caused the final blow. Nizzar no longer spawns because the GM's removed him from the spawn table.

p.s. I don't have to breathe because I keep my trusty fishbone earring equiped.

You're losing it pal...

[Pikrib]

You're losing it pal...

I don't lose anything. I keep my bag of the tinkerers organized.

[Gnomegrown]

pikrib please get a new sig , the girl is falling over before the stop sign hits its fake as shit

[heartbrand]

Supreme
It is easier to present the idea that "GMs disbanded us is why we could never compete" than it is to accept the fact they was out played by better players.

pras holocaust

[Nirgon]

hb making this Banniversary real personal

[Stalos_]

"I was the ONLY one...."

[Labanen]

Nihilum is disbanded and Nizzar is banned.

Get over it.done, happy new years.

[fred schnarf]

i have like 4 banned chars in this thread

[Sapphiay]

People justify themself here. That is the reason this theme will come back all time. The server is haunted since.

[Kergan]

^ wtf

[Sektor]

^ wtf

She's German heheh

[Eslade]

and dumb.

[heartbrand]

People justify themself here. That is the reason this theme will come back all time. The server is haunted since.

Please follow Nihilum's spiritual leader Supreme's advice. Stop blaming GM's for your guilds failure to compete, you were outplayed.

[Sapphiay]

It is the fail of equal treatment. My english is good enough to understand that known RMT-guildleaders are suspended only for a short time here. I read Jibeknn had provements.
And their guild didnt got dispended. And player who rmt all time play just play other chars here and they don't have any interruption in playtime. That is against the rules.

[Pikrib]

Sapphiay

Niz was a guildleader so he was held to a higher standard. He got his warning and still spit in the GM's face. No one misses your scumbag, dirty, cheating, RMTing guild Sapphiay. The server is better without your guild and it's proven by the server count every day. Please leave your brainwashed stockholm syndrome shit at the server select screen if you decide to come back to R99. If you don't want to come back to R99 you can always hang with Nizzar who i'm sure is already back to his old RMTing and cheating ways.

Your pal
Emissary Pikrib

[HippoNipple]

Sapphiay

Niz was a guildleader so he was held to a higher standard. He got his warning and still spit in the GM's face. No one misses your scumbag, dirty, cheating, RMTing guild Sapphiay. The server is better without your guild and it's proven by the server count every day. Please leave your brainwashed stockholm syndrome shit at the server select screen if you decide to come back to R99. If you don't want to come back to R99 you can always hang with Nizzar who i'm sure is already back to his old RMTing and cheating ways.

Your pal
Emissary Pikrib

The reason players like Sapphiay get "brainwashed" is because of the elitist attitude others on the server have. This girl is obviously loony but Nihilum was probably the only guild that didn't treat her like shit when she came to the server without full knowledge of how to play and on top of that had a language barrier.

There are several players that defended Nihlium even with all their faults just because Nihlum was the only guild actually nice to them. You can probably put Farzo in the category of you aren't going to change his mind about Nihilum. It was just the timing of certain people joining the server.

[Drakaris]

Sapphiay

Niz was a guildleader so he was held to a higher standard. He got his warning and still spit in the GM's face. No one misses your scumbag, dirty, cheating, RMTing guild Sapphiay. The server is better without your guild and it's proven by the server count every day. Please leave your brainwashed stockholm syndrome shit at the server select screen if you decide to come back to R99. If you don't want to come back to R99 you can always hang with Nizzar who i'm sure is already back to his old RMTing and cheating ways.

Your pal
Emissary Pikrib

LOL AAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAHAHA

Azrael are pretty much the same dude, only difference is they do not have the perseverance to mass recruit and gear up new players over and over again ;)

How many ex-members have come out of the woodwork telling tales of RMT and cheating with special 3rd party software for apparent boxing (according to Ragingclues latest account)...

I try not to rip into guilds these days as much, but damn dude, Nihilum have never done anything worse than Azrael has in my 1.5 years of wearing that tag...

[Drakaris]

The reason players like Sapphiay get "brainwashed" is because of the elitist attitude others on the server have. This girl is obviously loony but Nihilum was probably the only guild that didn't treat her like shit when she came to the server without full knowledge of how to play and on top of that had a language barrier.

There are several players that defended Nihlium even with all their faults just because Nihlum was the only guild actually nice to them. You can probably put Farzo in the category of you aren't going to change his mind about Nihilum. It was just the timing of certain people joining the server.

Farzo apping to nihilum was my doing. Kept chipping away at him (and Grimzal) to app. Tbh I just wanted all the Aussies in the 1 guild and with holo I can say the mission was accomplished ;)

Holocaust is seriously one of the best guilds for r99 server health. There is no loot hording like there was in nihilum, which artificially inflated item values.

Nizzar on the other hand was super nice to new people especially ones where people generally were scumbags to and he had the perseverance to hold players hands where no one else would bother and just kick.

It is what it is, however I am glad to see the server thriving.

[heartbrand]

Nizzar was short of patience, frequently belittled people and used his position of power to force people into submission, refused to teach many people such as other monks how to pull VP and other zones so that the guild could function without him, was a black hole for guild bank loot with zero accountability, etc.

Gongshow on the other hand is a kind and benevolent leader, he is of great patience, helps even those such as Juggzmcgee learn how to pull VP [something Nizzar would NEVER have done, in fact Nizzar muted Juggz and ultimately booted him], makes decisions that are transparent and just.

Not even close.

[Pikrib]

Off the record Emissary Pikrib: Yeah my guild is pretty scummy too...

Hippo
I don't believe that last part, because I gave Farzo stuff and his group stuff when he was like lvl 15. Along with buffs and heals. Farzo got brainwashed by Drakaris. It is known.

Drakaris
Did you call me a "Bursar" the other day? I was kinda busy in pvp destroying the evil scorge of the server Holocaust. Only to take a T-staff to the face and get melted. It was a fight involving 20 Holocaust and 50 Fresh vs 7 brave Azrael. Sorry if I didn't get back to ya.

Your pal
Emissary Pikrib

[HippoNipple]

Hippo
I don't believe that last part, because I gave Farzo stuff and his group stuff when he was like lvl 15. Along with buffs and heals. Farzo got brainwashed by Drakaris. It is known.



I know there are nice people on the server in all guilds but Drakaris was in a guild that allowed for him to reach out and bring Farzo in. If you were in Azrael at that time and reached out to Farzo in the same fashion he still would not have been let in. If he was let in as a personal favor to you he wouldn't get epic support or leveling help.

What individuals do at levels 1-50 are good for the server but irrelevant to a players choice of guild at level 50+. At certain points in server history it was either Azrael or Nihilum and everyone knows Azrael has always had the worst support system for new player progression at end game.

50+ the game changes completely. Generally you are KoS to everyone in the game not in your guild. For new players during the Nihilum era Nihilum had to seem like the nicest guild in the world to take them in and help out. All the bullshit that went on explained by Heartbrand is the last thing on the minds of a fresh recruit and by the time they find out (may be 4-6 months) they have already made friends in guild and been ostracized by anyone outside of the guild.

Azrael always made Nihlum stronger by their methods, especially when they would swallow any guild with a chance of having a friendly mentality to new recruits.

[Pikrib]

After farming the server uncontested for 2 years im sure Nihilum had enough cash/loot (minus RMT costs of course) they could twink every new person who started this server if they wanted to. Instead they shat on new guilds planar raids, and corpse camped lvl 52's before there was LnS.

After LnS policy was set in stone and pvp range was changed to 4 lvls they probably seemed like stellar chaps though. Which is probably around the time Farzo/Sapphiay joined the server. So I really don't blame them for thinking Nihilum was the best thing since sliced bread. That was also around the time they finally started losing more often. Not having an iron grip on the server probably made them more welcoming. Nizzar couldnt afford to lose his pixels or would have to get a job for his beer money.

[Nirgon]

Nizzar was short of patience, frequently belittled people and used his position of power to force people into submission, refused to teach many people such as other monks how to pull VP and other zones so that the guild could function without him, was a black hole for guild bank loot with zero accountability, etc.

Gongshow on the other hand is a kind and benevolent leader, he is of great patience, helps even those such as Juggzmcgee learn how to pull VP [something Nizzar would NEVER have done, in fact Nizzar muted Juggz and ultimately booted him], makes decisions that are transparent and just.

Not even close.

Juggz seemed a little frustrated at first but Smaug took him under his wing.

A beautiful moment tbqh.

[Pseudechis]

What does azrael do to help up and coming guilds or players pikrib? When that CoF got ninja'd the other day there was really no main characters there that needed it?

[Pikrib]

What does azrael do to help up and coming guilds or players pikrib? When that CoF got ninja'd the other day there was really no main characters there that needed it?

Azrael held open dragon raids, does Holocaust throw open raids?

Yeah didn't think so.

[Pikrib]

p.s. Who are you? Were you at the aforementioned raid?

[iiNGloriouS]

Azrael held open dragon raids, does Holocaust throw open raids?

Yeah didn't think so.

Don't need to we're only at 2% capacity with our force, gotta gear dem up ya feelers.

[HippoNipple]

What does azrael do to help up and coming guilds or players pikrib? When that CoF got ninja'd the other day there was really no main characters there that needed it?

Something this simple has always been the problem with Azrael and I think it has done more damage than any other guild on the server. It is why people that have been around a long time want Azrael gone.

Several guilds that have been up and coming throughout the server history were swallowed up by Azrael. Azrael is attractive to top players that are 60 with decent gear in a new guild . As long as the up and coming guilds are running Azrael is fine but sooner or later the new guild's core gets tired of being a feeder guild. Azrael no longer has any incoming players and their success fizzles out.

Azrael not having a foundation or welcoming players level 50+ has been a bigger detriment to the server than I think most realize.

The idea of having minimum raid sized guilds is all fluff and BS propaganda. It will never work. You aren't going to have a pool of players sitting around waiting for the top tier guilds to have players fizzle out before they get their turn. New players with no gear need to be teamed up with vets to have success in end game content. You aren't going to have a team of 20 players in rags begin to take targets from another team of 20 fully geared players.

For a guild to succeed they need to have a foundation to progress players from level 50 as well as some retention at level 60 to down raid content. New guilds will never achieve this with a guild like Azrael around. If someone gets tired of how big Holocaust is right now and starts their own crew they will eventually have their best players that want to fight Holocaust poached by Azrael.

Azrael is a black hole of geared 60's that want to compete against the number 1 guild.

People compare Holocaust to Nihilum because they are the current number 1 guild but any guild will fall into this role as long as Azrael is around. Holocaust is a lot better than Nihilum because of the intentions and fairness of the leadership.

[Pikrib]

What guilds has Azrael swallowed? RD was a even split. EL was a even split.

Holocaust swallowed Blazed 100 percent.

Y do you always drink the coolaid you read on the boards Hippo?

[HippoNipple]

Every player Azrael takes from any guild is a waste because they don't develop their own players.

Azrael has taken members from Red Dawn 1, Red Dawn 2, Hokuten, EL, etc.

I'm not saying players don't go to Nihilum or Holocaust from other guilds, but the ones that go to Azrael are a complete waste. Azrael 100% leeches off of other guilds progression instead of offering the foundation itself.

Azrael helps number 1 guild stay on top.

[Labanen]

Azrael helps number 1 guild stay on top. this is prolly true. But either way, server pop climbed alot the last year Nihilum was around, and it continued when Azrael and later Holo took over. So i think we have to look for a different reason than which guild is currently on top.

I think a completely overfilled blue server is a more important reason.

[fred schnarf]

holocaust does not throw open drain raids because everyone on the server is in holocaust

or azrael

nihilum had a stomp you and camp you policy so you should join us because you arent raiding anything policy , and it worked.

and was enforced by all its members who hindered server growth for 2 years so leader could RMT and buy ramen.

you guys ruined your own server imo, enjoy !

[HippoNipple]

this is prolly true. But either way, server pop climbed alot the last year Nihilum was around, and it continued when Azrael and later Holo took over. So i think we have to look for a different reason than which guild is currently on top.

I think a completely overfilled blue server is a more important reason.


Population increase is hard to credit to a certain faction on the server. I think most players that try red have a hard time going back to blue if they give it a real shot. I was just referring to the competition at end game whether it is a 100 or 300 population. Anyone that offers help to new players and allows them to get somewhat established before being scared off helps increase population.

If Azrael wasn't around right now I think Fresh would have a better chance at competing. If Holocaust started getting ugly and stomping Fresh all the time it might build some resentment and get players to be very loyal to Fresh.

The problem ends up being people always think Azrael is the best chance they have to get back at the number 1 guild but it isn't. The core is run by a couple of guys that just care about their ego, getting some YT and rubbing pointless shit in peoples faces. There is no vision for long term success.

[Pikrib]

IDK Hippo its weird. Its like you played here a total of 1 week in the last 6 months and you get all your info from the boards.

I understand that we are on different elf sides and that we won't see eye to eye on everything. But damn atleast log in instead of posting forum hearsay, and taking trolls for truth.

[HippoNipple]

IDK Hippo its weird. Its like you played here a total of 1 week in the last 6 months and you get all your info from the boards.

I understand that we are on different elf sides and that we won't see eye to eye on everything. But damn atleast log in instead of posting forum hearsay, and taking trolls for truth.

I have been playing a lot lately but I'm leveling a Shaman now because that is want I want to play in Velious.

I have been on the server off and on since it opened.

[quido]

I credit red population boom to blue end game being so stupid now.

[Eslade]

I equate the increase in population to the decrease in gas prices.

[Pikrib]

Fresh won't compete Hippo. They won't ninja a few dragons or ever contest a named mob. They will take Holo scraps, and slowly leach members to Azrael or Holo. I would love to see different but it just aint gonna happen.

Log in, join up Fresh, and see for yourself. or don't and go back to posting what you think will happen from reading other peoples forum posts.

[Labanen]

I equate the increase in population to the decrease in gas prices.

I agree !

[dontbanpls]

Pikrib you contribute to <Fresh> being pushed back further and then talk shit about how we are taking too long to contest. You are the demon you hate.

[HippoNipple]

Fresh won't compete Hippo. They won't ninja a few dragons or ever contest a named mob. They will take Holo scraps, and slowly leach members to Azrael or Holo. I would love to see different but it just aint gonna happen.

Log in, join up Fresh, and see for yourself. or don't and go back to posting what you think will happen from reading other peoples forum posts.

I would never join Fresh while Azrael is still around poaching all people that don't want to be in the number 1 guild.

I explained that a couple posts ago in one of my TLDRs.

There has never been an up and coming guild that didn't have their best players leached by Azrael and then wasted. As long as Azrael is around what you say is true. I don't believe the up and coming guilds have had a fair shot at contending with number 1 since Azrael has been around.

[gobletsmashing]

what happens when velious comes out? Everyone's gonna be preoccupied with velious armor / raids ... some of the old world / kunark stuff should open up. Only a couple hundred people on a time, can't camp everything.

[Nirgon]

-> start farming armor (read: plate) in tov
-> engage enemy force that zones in eventually
-> hour of chasing people around
-> one force wipes
-> LNS called
-> both sides rez dead
-> LNS expires after an hour
-> repeat from step 1



Glorious gameplay



We may need to address the raid force rules in PNP from RZ. The rule stating "you cannot engage a force unless you have something capable of also attacking the raid mob" became a MAJOR MAJOR issue on RZ. Basically it states you can say to the enemy force "you get a free shot" and if they can't take it, they gotta leave / can't disrupt your attempt... else a suspension for players involved.



Now... you might THINK you can defend this with pvp. But try dealing with randomly camped enchanters dispelling the Statue of Rallos Zek. You can't. 1 dispel, raid wipe. If you think getting pelled against VS is bad..

[Kergan]

Some serious thought needs to be given to how PVP rules will work in Velious or it's gonna be a shitshow. Faction burning, being able to walk up to most raid mobs due to faction, being able to bind in or just outside major raid zones, etc.

[Colgate]

it's okay

holocaust will just have 250+ people on each raid to compensate

[Pikrib]

Pikrib you contribute to <Fresh> being pushed back further and then talk shit about how we are taking too long to contest. You are the demon you hate.

I never said it was taking too long to contest? I know it is going to take them awhile to contest. How am I contributing to <Fresh> being pushed back. I wanted to help you guys out any way I could. I got booted for contesting Holocaust with some Azrael friends. I wasn't allowed to help Azrael. Max said "Pick a side" and booted me from Fresh. I had picked a side and it was <Fresh>. I even tried to help find your Azrael spies.

I did feel like I wasn't allowed to have friends in another guilds, and wasn't allowed to kill Holocaust even though they were attacking us at an epic mob raid.

I just think Max (I would guess aka dontbanpls) is in bed with Holocaust. He wouldn't go behind their backs and steal a dragon, or even try to steal a Trainx if it was contested. Fresh is being used to side with Holo already.

There will never be any mutually beneficial working agreements with Azrael and Fresh because Max hates them too much. The same goes for a lot of Azrael.

I wish the best for <Fresh> and if they ever need me you can always ask for my help. I also think they are doing awesome things for the server. Max and Karsten keep up the good work you guys are doing great. Just remember what happened to Gods Work when it was no longer needed to protect Holocaust.



Holy shit TLDR btw not gonna spell/gramar check that shit need to get back to work.

[Colgate]

our agreement with fresh is simply to ally in pvp against azrael to get azrael off the server

there is no official raiding together, no loot compromises

that doesn't mean i won't go help them CR when they wipe in hate, or we won't MQ some epics to them when we're overflowing(see: pulsing green stones when they came to VS)

the server is policing itself

[Kergan]

it's okay

holocaust will just have 250+ people on each raid to compensate

For some reason that scene in LOTR when Sauron comes out and is just cleaving people in two and smacking them 600 feet into the distance came to mind.

[Gotze]

I just want pixels.


- John Hancock

[Buhbuh]

Hancock?

I thought that was our forefathers.

BRAD MCQUAID is our messiah.

[Colgate]

i'm sure brad mcquaid would be very proud of his work if he saw this community

[Kergan]

I'm 100% sure he has played on P99 at some point. He is probably one of these forum trolls actually.

[HippoNipple]

He has to have at least skimmed forums before. Can't imagine him not being curious about what the only server identical to what he created is doing. You know he is aware the place exists since he tried to RMT XP pots and other shit on P1999 for his crappy kick starter.

He probably has a pretty good laugh at how much drama his game causes people.

[Kergan]

Yeah I had almost forgot about the kickstarter thing, hah. Yeah he is around for sure. Dude has a big mouth too so I guarantee he has posted in one way or another. Probably an active poster too.

[HippoNipple]

I hope it is Syft.

[Kergan]

Haha how awesome would that be? Or Andis?

[Genedin]

I hope it is Syft.

[Drakaris]

I hope it is Syft.

Profile fits, substance abuse, visions of grandeur, delusions about in-game events... yup...

[Laugher]

brad mcquaid was hasbinbad

[Tassador]

Brad Is a major faggot thanks for Everquest tho playing this shit for no reason with a bunch of assholes yeah fuck you brad!

[Sektor]

i'm sure brad mcquaid would be very proud of his work if he saw this community

Lol you are apart of all of this embarrassment.

[Ragnaros]

Lol you are apart of all of this embarrassment.

[Glenzig]

Lol you are apart of all of this embarrassment.

Are you arguing for him or against him?

[Kergan]

The were just as many pieces of shit on EQ Live, it's just there were a bunch of normal people to water down the cesspool.

[vouss]

I feel like all the Normal people left to WoW

[Kergan]

I feel like all the Normal people left to WoW

That is where I have been. :)

[fred schnarf]

I'm 100% sure he has played on P99 at some point. He is probably one of these forum trolls actually.

would be amazing discovery to find brad here as one of the butthurt !!!!

[Infectious]

The were just as many pieces of shit on EQ Live, it's just there were a bunch of normal people to water down the cesspool.

Truth

[Drakaris]

I feel like all the Normal people left to WoW

Did that, got bored... came back to EQ... just done the whole treadmill/time released loot shit before too many times.... Classic WoW was way better than the new expansions will ever be...

Your statement is not necessarily true, WoW does have it's wierdos...

[Tune]

Sapphiay

Niz was a guildleader so he was held to a higher standard. He got his warning and still spit in the GM's face. No one misses your scumbag, dirty, cheating, RMTing guild Sapphiay. The server is better without your guild and it's proven by the server count every day. Please leave your brainwashed stockholm syndrome shit at the server select screen if you decide to come back to R99. If you don't want to come back to R99 you can always hang with Nizzar who i'm sure is already back to his old RMTing and cheating ways.

Your pal
Emissary Pikrib

what happened to niz was not fair, im not just saying it bc hes my friend, but i think you are too new to the server, or too ignorant for a valid opinion. And banning nihilum has no impact on population. numbers naturally go up in the winter time, all you did was lose some normal people

After farming the server uncontested for 2 years im sure Nihilum had enough cash/loot (minus RMT costs of course) they could twink every new person who started this server if they wanted to. Instead they shat on new guilds planar raids, and corpse camped lvl 52's before there was LnS.

After LnS policy was set in stone and pvp range was changed to 4 lvls they probably seemed like stellar chaps though. Which is probably around the time Farzo/Sapphiay joined the server. So I really don't blame them for thinking Nihilum was the best thing since sliced bread. That was also around the time they finally started losing more often. Not having an iron grip on the server probably made them more welcoming. Nizzar couldnt afford to lose his pixels or would have to get a job for his beer money.

this is blown out of proportion propaganda

[Colgate]

nizzar RMT'd loot as a guild leader

banned his stuff, told him to stop leading or he was gone for good

he kept leading, got blacklisted

nothing unfair about that

[heartbrand]

what happened to niz was not fair, im not just saying it bc hes my friend, but i think you are too new to the server, or too ignorant for a valid opinion. And banning nihilum has no impact on population. numbers naturally go up in the winter time, all you did was lose some normal people



this is blown out of proportion propaganda

remember when u guild removed me and said i have no more moves? hehehe now ur banned and so is nizzar. c u l8r.


also lol @ this being normal pop increase, red never hit 200 with nihilum on the box, not even during winter. we've now hit 300 on multiple occasions something that hasn't occurred since December 2011.

[Sapphiay]

Lite RMT'd loot as a guild leader and was only suspended for some time. I trust Jibeknn with his proofs. I heard his voice in teamspeak and he is a fine guy.
Sektor is actually rmting and the staff knows this and the sky of Everquest Project 1999 is smiling on him, making tvstreams of themself playing. This is not fair. There were streams and youtube videos from normal raids and guildchats of Nihilum and no one cared.
Then there was a turmoil with things sold as secret logs who was like open at youtube. I have some of this on my computer build up as a bogey " oh they had been secrets evidence of terrible things happened in Nihilum. " To justify all they digged in 2 years old protocolls and found not at Nizzarr but from one other 200 turned in bones for faction in 20 minutes and cried this could not happen in a normal way. That was to periodic they said. I heared the n-word and racist and discrimination against female all day but thats normal it seems. But this skeletonbones were enough for a livelong ban. This is absolutely ridiculous.

[Sapphiay]

It was not Nizzarr who wanted you guildremoved. When i saw you with my friends Terp and the other in the force-Teamspeak i started to get a terrible feeling and i contacted Vaporize to get you back in guild. He said not speaking in teamspeak and not doing enough for guild was the reason. I had no chance to convince him. That was very unfair, so many people in guild since month logged only in every week and had been still in guild at this moment.

[Drakaris]

what happened to niz was not fair, im not just saying it bc hes my friend, but i think you are too new to the server, or too ignorant for a valid opinion. And banning nihilum has no impact on population. numbers naturally go up in the winter time, all you did was lose some normal people



this is blown out of proportion propaganda

I kept my options open to see both sides of the fence when I first started. I got to know the players, who was ganking, who was shit talking and I found that Nihilum seemed like a nice and mature crowd. If I joined any other guild it would have been Azrael, but only because of Agatha, who was an ooc warrior wierdo but seemed like a nice guy nonetheless.

TBH I was not around for all the other crap people say Nihilum did, however during the 18 months I was tagged, it seemed like a pretty fair guild... put the time in, get your pixels and the guild bank kept spares for epic MQs in case there was a bad run... as long as you became full member, you got your epic...

Nizzar only really hated Lite with a passion, which is why every guild Azrael touched got stomped into the ground...

The only thing I'm confused about is Heartbrand's hatred towards Nizzar. It seems to me Nizzar and Elderan were doing their best to work with Red Dawn and they did not want the guild to die so long as they disassociated themselves from Azrael.

Nizzar also didn't really want to kick Heartbrand from the guild, it was under the pressure of other members to make that move. I don't get why people had a lot of hate for Heartbrand at the time, but those players that pushed for Heartbrand to be kicked were not affected by the bannings or disbanding of Nihilum.

Anyways Tune, I heard some GW players have been chumming it up with Azrael, isn't that against everything you stood for? Did you forget the rez box trains in VP and petition quests to get us raid suspended over stupid shit?

[Tune]

nizzar RMT'd loot as a guild leader

banned his stuff, told him to stop leading or he was gone for good

he kept leading, got blacklisted

nothing unfair about that

1/6 of above said statement is true

remember when u guild removed me and said i have no more moves? hehehe now ur banned and so is nizzar. c u l8r.


also lol @ this being normal pop increase, red never hit 200 with nihilum on the box, not even during winter. we've now hit 300 on multiple occasions something that hasn't occurred since December 2011.

1/6 of the above statement is true. and we only have more numbers now because more time has passed

I kept my options open to see both sides of the fence when I first started. I got to know the players, who was ganking, who was shit talking and I found that Nihilum seemed like a nice and mature crowd. If I joined any other guild it would have been Azrael, but only because of Agatha, who was an ooc warrior wierdo but seemed like a nice guy nonetheless.

TBH I was not around for all the other crap people say Nihilum did, however during the 18 months I was tagged, it seemed like a pretty fair guild... put the time in, get your pixels and the guild bank kept spares for epic MQs in case there was a bad run... as long as you became full member, you got your epic...

Nizzar only really hated Lite with a passion, which is why every guild Azrael touched got stomped into the ground...

The only thing I'm confused about is Heartbrand's hatred towards Nizzar. It seems to me Nizzar and Elderan were doing their best to work with Red Dawn and they did not want the guild to die so long as they disassociated themselves from Azrael.

Nizzar also didn't really want to kick Heartbrand from the guild, it was under the pressure of other members to make that move. I don't get why people had a lot of hate for Heartbrand at the time, but those players that pushed for Heartbrand to be kicked were not affected by the bannings or disbanding of Nihilum.

Anyways Tune, I heard some GW players have been chumming it up with Azrael, isn't that against everything you stood for? Did you forget the rez box trains in VP and petition quests to get us raid suspended over stupid shit?

don't care at this point

[Tune]

tune rolls with the slathar crew now a days

too busy to play or even read the forams

this is a rare treat

[Nirgon]

^ 1/6 of dat is true

[heartbrand]

^ 1/6 of dat is true

hohoho

[vouss]

i absolutely love giving tune orders

[Stasis01]

too busy to play or even read the forams

this is a rare treat

You can be straight your whole life, suck one dick - and you're a cocksucker.

[Stasis01]

And that's more a shot at Slathar, I think you're good shit Tune - should just come Holo.

[Ragnaros]

tune doesnt play with baddies

[Muleworth]

and we only have more numbers now because more time has passed


Lmao

[quido]

tune doesnt play with baddies

Funny you should say that - I actually had a conversation with Tune once on this subject. At the time he was running around with some super scrub (I forget who - Nihilum had its share of warm bodies); I asked him what the hell he was doing with the guy and Tune went on to make a good point to me - you don't have to be great at EQ to be effective in PvP. Yes, some people are just hopeless, but Retard Mcbluestein can likely be as effective as the best player 90% of the time without much trouble. It's a good point to keep in mind.

[Zereh]

Fuck Pathetic'99.

And fuck you, too.


<3 Z

[heartbrand]

love how the ppl who were planning out meticulous velious DKP charts and item values along with min/max sets and all maxing tradeskills for velious only a few months ago are now saying how p99 is awful and not fun.

[Smedy]

love how the ppl who were planning out meticulous velious DKP charts and item values along with min/max sets and all maxing tradeskills for velious only a few months ago are now saying how p99 is awful and not fun.

i chuckled wholeheartedly

ya *****s scared of competition, game no fun when you ain't getting uncontested pixels

[Smedy]

Can't argue for nihilum, even though holocaust is filled with old nihilum people at it's core and is mindwashing my pal colgate it's still a fact that nihilum was the worst thing to happen for red99, they kept the server a ghost town for 2 years and would continue doing so right now if that ban wouldn't have happened

The duke was real and you should be scared of him, all this pras the duke from new comers is silly, u don't even know how real pixel starvation feels like, i endured it for 2,5 years, i came out with a white dragon scale cloak after that period of time, u take a second to feels it

[HippoNipple]

holocaust is filled with old nihilum people at it's core and is mindwashing my pal colgate


Holocaust and Colgate are one, one does not influence the other.

[Silent]

I am the last remaining GW tagged player that is even on the server, and I play about an hour every few days if that. Not sure who these people are you are talking about Drakar, but you know who GW is and who isnt =P

[Tomm Selleck]

^ 1/6 of dat is true

http://i.imgur.com/DsMepQ7.gif
NIRGON STRIKES AGAIN

[Smedy]

Holocaust and Colgate are one, one does not influence the other.

No the weak mind of young colgate is clouded by pras and peer pressure from these cameleon like pixel smaugs that were previously lingering side by side with the duke. These sick cameleon like individuals quickly adapted to their new envoirment and once more has found a way to collect priceless jewels by puppetmastering the young and naive grandmaster. As the one and only true white knight that remains, my mission in norrath is to untangle our young grandmasters mind and once more set him free upon norrath, the day will come.

I wrote this listening to the score played on: http://www.flatvsrealism.com/ very immersive soundtrack, feels good man

[Colgate]

naw, too many retards in azrael that embrace the idea of a low population shitty server

ever wonder why i /guildremoved within 1 minute of nihilum disbanding?

[Bazia]

who cares about higher pop when all the new blue converts just immediately gate and or plug unless its a raid force

phantom population really

[Tune]

hohoho

telling u dude.

i didn't even care if you stayed in the guild.

If were had members that conflicted that bad, my idea was to set a start date and end date, and who ever had the highest RA could stay in the guild

but of course my ideas were cast aside

[Colgate]

who cares about higher pop when all the new blue converts just immediately gate and or plug unless its a raid force

phantom population really

:( why does no1 want to stay in zone and 1v1 a cure shield enchanter in the current balance patch

:(
:(

:(((((((((((((((

[Pikrib]

what happened to niz was not fair, im not just saying it bc hes my friend, but i think you are too new to the server, or too ignorant for a valid opinion. And banning nihilum has no impact on population. numbers naturally go up in the winter time, all you did was lose some normal people



this is blown out of proportion propaganda

If ya havn't noticed 99 percent of forum posts are "blown out of proportion propaganda"
See any Heartbrand or Nirgon posts for examples.


I disagree about the numbers see chart below.

http://i.imgur.com/dPPfzUh.png

[Kergan]

Wow that is pretty crazy, imagine where we'll be when Lite gets banned finally.

[Nirgon]

my cheating rmting pals are gone, fuck this place

[fred schnarf]

You can be straight your whole life, suck one dick - and you're a cocksucker.

this is great

[fred schnarf]

Fuck Pathetic'99.

And fuck you, too.


<3 Z

/wave your 10% dkp conversion, sorry you were part of a RMT Ring lost your dkp and your guild, now go join the ranks of the butthurt.

:)

[Kergan]

Nah, the Duke will make his glorious return upon the frozen earth of Velious. Those he deems loyal will have their DKP in this life or the next.

[Mac Drettj]

what happened to niz was not fair, im not just saying it bc hes my friend, but i think you are too new to the server, or too ignorant for a valid opinion. And banning nihilum has no impact on population. numbers naturally go up in the winter time, all you did was lose some normal people



this is blown out of proportion propaganda

lol loser

nizzar rmtd guild loot and got banned 3 times for doing so

tune is also banned, don't believe his "busy" comments 8)

ur welcome, now work on your speech impediment

[Kergan]

Dude it was one green scale for $40 that's IT.

[Mac Drettj]

since i got nizzar, tune, all of nihilum and it's core banned

i think i know

you know?

[Kergan]

So you are the one to blame for me losing my 7 Velious DKP?

[Mac Drettj]

No, Nihilum leadership is to blame.

[Smedy]

lol loser

nizzar rmtd guild loot and got banned 3 times for doing so

tune is also banned, don't believe his "busy" comments 8)

ur welcome, now work on your speech impediment

meanwhile this retti guy was guilded with tune and nizzar and did not once speak up against the regime he took part of, a true nutswinger and essentially the dirtiest of people, we should all join together and make sure these toxic fucks quit the box for good, they stand for nothing

[Kergan]

Aren't you one of the people who have actively done the same thing for Lite/Azrael?

[Pikrib]

Aren't you one of the people who have actively done the same thing for Lite/Azrael?

meanwhile this Kergan guy was guilded with tune and nizzar and did not once speak up against the regime he took part of, a true nutswinger and essentially the dirtiest of people, we should all join together and make sure these toxic fucks quit the box for good, they stand for nothing

FTFY Smedy

[Mac Drettj]

meanwhile this retti guy was guilded with tune and nizzar and did not once speak up against the regime he took part of, a true nutswinger and essentially the dirtiest of people, we should all join together and make sure these toxic fucks quit the box for good, they stand for nothing

how can i not speak up against them if i spoke up against them and got them banned?

im sorry that I gave you clarity and made you realize that you spent your entire life from 1999 - 2015 playing live everquest > emulated everquest

must be a shitty realization

[Kergan]

FTFY Smedy

Aren't you one of the people who have actively done the same thing for Lite/Azrael?

[Pikrib]

Aren't you one of the people who have actively done the same thing for Lite/Azrael?

I'm not guilded with Lite/or in Azrael, I have no clue what you are talking about.

[HippoNipple]

meanwhile this retti guy was guilded with tune and nizzar and did not once speak up against the regime he took part of, a true nutswinger and essentially the dirtiest of people, we should all join together and make sure these toxic fucks quit the box for good, they stand for nothing

If you want someone run off the box your best bet is to convince Colgate. No one else is going to deliver.

Best thing you can do to get closer to Colgate is join Holocaust.

[Pikrib]

If you want someone run off the box your best bet is to convince Colgate. No one else is going to deliver.

Best thing you can do to get closer to Colgate is join Holocaust.

Another wild nutswinger appears out of the mist.


Seriously
Smedy couldn't get into Holocust if he tried. I think hes on the naughty list.

[heartbrand]

Dunno why people respond to Pikrib posts

[Elderan]

Nah, the Duke will make his glorious return upon the frozen earth of Velious. Those he deems loyal will have their DKP in this life or the next.

[Mac Drettj]

cant wait to watch the sunny delight sponsored french pirate and his band of merry virgins come start up again

[Ragnaros]

retti I would keep your mouth shut, the duke keeps his receipts

[fred schnarf]

at 0 dkp

[HippoNipple]

Another wild nutswinger appears out of the mist.


Seriously
Smedy couldn't get into Holocust if he tried. I think hes on the naughty list.

Everyone is a nutswinger to this guy unless they help Lite farm pixels for RMT.

What I posted has some merit. Colgate calls out scum and helps gets rid of them.

Meanwhile people in Azrael make charts and graphs.

[Buhbuh]

retti I would keep your mouth shut, the duke keeps his receipts

You must not be aware of who contributed to his ban.

[Labanen]

cant wait to watch the sunny delight sponsored french pirate and his band of merry virgins come start up again
You were in that band, remember?

[Drakaris]

I am the last remaining GW tagged player that is even on the server, and I play about an hour every few days if that. Not sure who these people are you are talking about Drakar, but you know who GW is and who isnt =P

Rystar, basically helped an Azrael ambush on Skar, so he would have been in their TS.

Luckily I resisted malosini and made a plug.

[Elderan]

meanwhile this retti guy was guilded with tune and nizzar and did not once speak up against the regime he took part of, a true nutswinger and essentially the dirtiest of people, we should all join together and make sure these toxic fucks quit the box for good, they stand for nothing

With this server very few people had no baggage with them. We knew who the truly loyal people were in the guild.

But in the end people make mistakes and they trust the wrong person.

[Samsung]

With this server very few people had no baggage with them. We knew who the truly loyal people were in the guild.

But in the end people make mistakes and they trust the wrong person.

Azrael would like to extend an invitation to you and your friends to join the fight against the one and true enemy, I await Nizzar's response.

[heartbrand]

With this server very few people had no baggage with them. We knew who the truly loyal people were in the guild.

But in the end people make mistakes and they trust the wrong person.

Nihilum fucked itself by shitting on it's core time after time. I was in Nihilum before you joined the box, was in it December 2011, and even then it was clear. Rather than focus on rewarding it's core veterans who kept logging on and accruing DKP that they couldn't use any longer, they kept inviting Random_New_Person01 that we didn't need. We were slaying the dragons with no competition as it was with our core. The zero accountability of Nizzar and his decision making led to his downfall. c u in thurgadin

[Elderan]

Nihilum fucked itself by shitting on it's core time after time. I was in Nihilum before you joined the box, was in it December 2011, and even then it was clear. Rather than focus on rewarding it's core veterans who kept logging on and accruing DKP that they couldn't use any longer, they kept inviting Random_New_Person01 that we didn't need. We were slaying the dragons with no competition as it was with our core. The zero accountability of Nizzar and his decision making led to his downfall. c u in thurgadin

While I will agree on some parts I think everyone can agree that without GM intervention the guild would still exist and still be top on the server. So while those decisions might have been bad only the external game ones brought the guild down.

[Elderan]

without GM intervention nihilum would have never lasted after the first 2 or 3 months of the server while getting deepdicked by holocaust 1.0

While it could be true, those 2-3 months were pretty small in comparison to the years Nihilum dominated the server and the amount of guilds that were raised and put down by them.

So far the new Holo has only put down one guild, and that's Azrael. It is not Holos fought there has only been one guild to fight so far though. Time will tell if the new Holo maintains their position for years to come. In 2-3 years we will know the answer to that question.

[quido]

Nihilum never beat a single credible guild. Credible.

[heartbrand]

Those 2-3 months were key to what happened. Had the staff not banned Holocaust, the unfettered zerging that Nihilum was able to do would never have occurred. Nihilum benefited from being the only option to slay dragons post holo ban. As we've seen before on this server and even recently, once a guild gets a lead on the competition here it's basically impossible to knock them off the perch.

Back to the other point though, it should come as no surprise that Nihilum's downfall came from burning it's own members and the unchecked abuse of power that Nizzar wielded. Luckily, Holocaust has a strong officer core that works as a unit, and a leadership structure that cares about server growth.

[Ragnaros]

Elderan nust bring the duke back we are waiting and counting on you

[Elderan]

Those 2-3 months were key to what happened. Had the staff not banned Holocaust, the unfettered zerging that Nihilum was able to do would never have occurred. Nihilum benefited from being the only option to slay dragons post holo ban. As we've seen before on this server and even recently, once a guild gets a lead on the competition here it's basically impossible to knock them off the perch.

Back to the other point though, it should come as no surprise that Nihilum's downfall came from burning it's own members and the unchecked abuse of power that Nizzar wielded. Luckily, Holocaust has a strong officer core that works as a unit, and a leadership structure that cares about server growth.

It is easy to say how things should have been. But when trying to hold a guild together on a server when the turnover is so high things can lose sight or become muddy.

I myself just tried to point Nihilum in right direction when it came to seeing things from a more clear perspective. Ultimately though I was not the one at the steering wheel. I was just the one saying "hey I think we should go this way".

I wish you guys good luck, I really do. I have no skin in the game at this point, and I have no hard feelings for anyone that kept it in game. All I am saying is that its too early to tell. At some point Holo will be challenged by external and internal competition, and the one that you fail to see is the one that ends up destroying you. Those will be the real test.

[Kergan]

Only common theme that we all can agree upon is everyone has easily beaten Azrael.

[heartbrand]

Nihilum had an atmosphere of "I really hate this guild but if I want pixels this is the only way to go, and man that Lite guy is a faggot". The atmosphere in Holocaust has been incredibly positive. Everyone is having a blast.

[krazyGlue]

let this thread die. holy fuck

[Kergan]

It is important to remember history, otherwise we are doomed to repeat it.

[Elderan]

nizzar was a terrible player

We have had this conversation so many times and I am not sure why at this point you don't realize there is much more to being a great player then particular one skill.

While being a great player is certainly subjective. I don't think anyone who isn't delusional would ever say Nizzar was a terrible player.

[Kergan]

I am a terrible player.

[krazyGlue]

nizzar's only quality as an everquest player was that he played 20+ hours a day

then why are you trying to be his copycat ?

[Elderan]

then why are you trying to be his copycat ?

If we were to have a R99 draft Colgate would go well below Nizzar in it. Maybe his pvp skill is higher I don't know but everything else is certainly lower.

[heartbrand]

is elderan for real? is the draft based on EQ Skill or RMT Prowess?

[Infectious]

holocaust is more powerful than nihilum could have ever been

Was never a member of azrael or nihilum... But that shit is funny as fuck. Nihilum locked the server down and changed it. But better then nihilum?
Mass recruit everyone and still needs fresh as back up against a smaller guild? Lol
Reminds me of when colgate was in azrael and azrael begged hokuten to fight against nihilum.
Azrael still lost. Fact is nihilum would still be number 1 here and you would still be posting about how only pvp matters.

[heartbrand]

u mean like how nihilum needed yiam's guild uprising to beat holocaust?

[Ragnaros]

Colgate is a terrible pvper i would take the duke anyday, the duke also plays every class, just like i would take vaporize over colgate, they actually have individual skill and knowledge a out the game and pvp, colgate instantly plugs if hes alone rofl

[Infectious]

u mean like how nihilum needed yiam's guild uprising to beat holocaust?
You were in nihilum how long?
Now you're in holocaust because?
Get the fuck outta this conversation.

[Pikrib]

let this thread die. holy fuck

then why are you trying to be his copycat ?

So let it die or keep posting in it?

I say grab some popcorn and enjoy it. :D

[Ragnaros]

Gets griefed off by nihilum, comes back 3 years later when nihilum got deleted by staff intervention..claims to be better
Rofl

[heartbrand]

You were in nihilum how long?
Now you're in holocaust because?
Get the fuck outta this conversation.

I fought with Holocaust against Nihilum for months u 4 real?

[Kergan]

We should have a R99 draft.

[Elderan]

Colgate is a terrible pvper i would take the duke anyday, the duke also plays every class, just like i would take vaporize over colgate, they actually have individual skill and knowledge a out the game and pvp, colgate instantly plugs if hes alone rofl

Its pretty clear Nizzars all around skill is better than Colgates for sure. Load two rogues same gear Nizzar on one and Colgate on another and see who wins. Or do the same with any other class.

[Pikrib]

Gets griefed off by nihilum, comes back 3 years later when nihilum got deleted by staff intervention..claims to be better
Rofl

Ragnaros you are so damn obnoxious. take a break

:eek:

[Elderan]

We should have a R99 draft.

Would be interesting for sure. Start a new server, have 2 leaders and they can pick from anyone who played on R99. But they get that player as they were on R99, same play time etc.

Honestly I can think of so many people I would pick over Colgate. I would pick HB over Colgate for sure. HB can play tons of characters, plays a ton and can play at work which is a huge plus.

[Kergan]

I say Lite and Colgate are captains and we have a R99 draft. 10 rounds.

Should be interedasting.

Any player past or present.

[GradnerLives]

PRAS THE DUKE

[gobletsmashing]

Would be interesting for sure. Start a new server, have 2 leaders and they can pick from anyone who played on R99. But they get that player as they were on R99, same play time etc.

Honestly I can think of so many people I would pick over Colgate. I would pick HB over Colgate for sure. HB can play tons of characters, plays a ton and can play at work which is a huge plus.

In this hypothetical situation .. need at least 4 or 5 guilds that can compete .. not just two, who work together

[Kergan]

Very solid first pick. Stand up guy, excellent player. Plays a crucial class.

Lite is now on the clock.

[Ragnaros]

Colgate terrible player i witnessed strydur kill him 6 vs 40 in erudin as holo was massing for a raid

[Ragnaros]

lol

colgate is literally the best jouster on the server with gongshow coming in at a close second (hate to say it but lite is probably after gong)

colgate also is an amazing bard, he 1v2'ed his way through tranquil shurikens to make it into the finals of the p99 2v2 tournament

if he can play a bard at a high level i'm sure he can play every other class with ease

nizzar was a joke, fucked him up on edward 1v1 in VP on more than one occasion and i'm terrible at this game


if any of you turds want to 1v1 me on beta same class i will judge you appropriately
biased because your obviously in his guild.
colgate is a terrible pvper and a horrible main assist, I remember pvping azrael in VP and he would constantly tell us to get on biggy..probably one of the best geared tanks on the server, colgate also doesn't pvp unless he knows he has an advantage and has no chance of dieing, when do you see colgate out looking for pvp on his own? Never. I witnessed Brobb beat colgate like a poor stepson on Krazy 1v1 in Sky, I think It was like 80% to 20% till colgate made a group port up? Was pretty embaressing, They should redo the BOTB now that the population is high and there is more then 10 people signing up for a botb

[Ragnaros]

colgate is not a good jouster, hes about average, its not hard to bulge your muscles on a proc with 50 people behind you.
the top jousters ive faced are gongshow brobb deluxee ender and hashtag, checkraise is decent too actually.

[quido]

Ragnaros is an authority on good players.

[Ragnaros]

thanks, your below average Jeremy/Edward/bush if you wanted to know, im actually curious how long it would take for you and lasher to kill eachother 1v1 with fungi's on, I remember seeing you guys in mass pvp constantly running into walls and keyboard turning it was gruesome to watch as we slaughtered you guys

[quido]

I was being facetious, Ragnaros - you're stupid.

It was funny to see how quickly and severely your forumquest flipflop took place.

[Ragnaros]

Jeremy you belong on the blue server with your 9m plat. Youlath, care to get on the beta for some fun?

[Ragnaros]

K pm me

[pingpong]

Yaw snortled 8) 8) p cool

[Flexin]

I assume anyone who says "snortling" has severe asthma.

[Infectious]

I fought with Holocaust against Nihilum for months u 4 real?
You were in holocaust longer then nihilum?
You were geared out by holocaust?
You were here defending holocaust for 2 years?
Exactly. You're a dick sucker of whoever is on top. Once a new guild rises, takes the number one spot. You're bitch ass will be back on your knees.

[Ragnaros]

colgate has never killed me on red99 except for once with unseen hand bug, hes not a very good pvper at all

[Buhbuh]

colgate has never killed me on red99 except for

good way to start a post

[Ragnaros]

? your internet back on after selling another t staff I see

[Flexin]

You were in holocaust longer then nihilum?
You were geared out by holocaust?
You were here defending holocaust for 2 years?
Exactly. You're a dick sucker of whoever is on top. Once a new guild rises, takes the number one spot. You're bitch ass will be back on your knees.

i like this guy

[Samaritan]

i like this guy

Yeah, fiery passion and bad grammar is a lethal combo. Fo sho.

[Infectious]

Yeah, fiery passion and bad grammar is a lethal combo. Fo sho.
Shut up. Half these people dont have jobs and your comment is my grammar.

[Ragnaros]

who is infectious in game? wasn't he in holo? Glad he saw the light side and left like me

[Milton]

infectious lurks deep, one of my sleeper picks too

[Ezalor]

You were in holocaust longer then nihilum?

http://img.pandawhale.com/75853-rolling-knockout-kick-gif-a1f7.gif

You were geared out by holocaust?

https://38.media.tumblr.com/0f80f5655cbec7b9572327b8266972c6/tumblr_migtxkcZsm1r81fefo1_400.gif

You were here defending holocaust for 2 years?

http://www.totalprosports.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/what-a-knockout.gif

Exactly. You're a dick sucker of whoever is on top. Once a new guild rises, takes the number one spot.

http://i.imgur.com/3rLZlSv.gif

You're bitch ass will be back on your knees.

http://forgifs.com/gallery/d/74852-5/Excited-fat-kid-wrestling-fan.gif

[Kergan]

Gotta admit I'm disappointed the whole R99 draft thing was drowned out by other things.

[Rythm]

Players like Tune, Vaporize, Batlle, Ender, Salem, Nerfed, Hughman, Deluxee, Twerk etc. are great at EverQuest.

The Duke is EverQuest.


http://youtu.be/A8gO0Z818j4?t=3m35s (http://youtu.be/A8gO0Z818j4?t=3m35s)

[Kergan]

The only person I know of who rivals the Duke when it comes to knowledge of quests, game encounters, raid strat, etc is Kringe.

[ExedOut]

=heartbrand;1590462]Honestly Nihilum made a huge error about a year and a half ago. There was no AZ at the time, and the server was double digits. We were holding down everything with ease with a crew of 23-25 people. Yet, we continued to recruit people for no reason that we didn't need, and DKP had no purpose as the core all had full BiS gear. At that point, the guild went from a tight knit crew to a machine that served only to gear new warm bodied apps who RMT'ed off the server or quit one after another, with the rare exception of the 5% who stayed to become part of the core.

Lmao. History repeating itself under a new name. Nihilum 100x better than Holocaust. Let nizzar come back. I mean I love sektors but how in the fuck is he allowed here yet niz isn't?

[Doors]

Exed was literally the biggest crybaby bitch in Holocaust about loot and we were happy to see him gone. He doesn't have a clue about what's he talking about so whatever he thinks he knows about the current guild and its goals is completely wrong.

[Ragnaros]

Doors your famous....on peoples sigs and stuff awww

[billhollins]

This thread is so rad deeds

[ExedOut]

Eddard i apologize for having almost as many kills for holocaust as you do and I left the guild months ago. An aimchat pal would mistake me sticking up for people and speaking my mind as crying considering at that point chuck would show up to a trakanon raid with a mryo bp and magically not have one when it dropped and get awarded it. Same story with the legs.or the time abou aka lewis was passed up on bcg for that faggot Soto who literally did nothing for the guild and denied guild xp groups in seb crypt so he could solo it all day and talk about his dogs bleeding pussy in teamspeak. I find it funny I'm tagged as a crybaby and a drama queen yet its the select few faggot's still riding my nuts three months later. I'm flattered.

[fiegi 8.0]

to this day chuck has never received a mrylokar's bp

you are insane

[fiegi 8.0]

Every piece of gear I had from lvl 1 were from gyno, so when i got myro legs i was replacing his. To this day I have received 3 loots from holocaust outside of plane of air.

myro legs
runebranded girdle
rotting PD sword

Get your facts straight please before you blabber about me.

[Terpuntine]

Exed's issues all boil down to this:

http://zam.zamimg.com/images/9/8/98ec6706376c558e13552c7fd0f000ed.png

When he didn't get the first his actions afterwards showed exactly why it wasn't handed to him in the first place.

GL with Suave.

[iiNGloriouS]

I can't wait 'til Exed deletes his toon for the Nth time.

[georgie]

funny to see ex-az/az offbrands go against the grain after being so loyal so long

[Jimmybones]

Exed's issues all boil down to this:

http://zam.zamimg.com/images/9/8/98ec6706376c558e13552c7fd0f000ed.png

When he didn't get the first his actions afterwards showed exactly why it wasn't handed to him in the first place.

GL with Suave.

hilarious seeing him try an offer 600k for an efreeti bow

[georgie]

got prof?

[Jimmybones]

got prof?

he tries to buy it in /ooc all the time u tard

[georgie]

so u got a ss then?

[iiNGloriouS]

Whose Georgie? Sounds very non-factor to me.

[Labanen]

Nerfed is a solid pick.

[snufzaimoverlord]

Lethdar would be my #1.

Most of the old Dentist crew solid pics, Any of the Old Holo aimchat pals solid pics, A handful of Azrael players that are solid picks as well.

EQ Has a shit ton of RNG involved, There are basically 3 classes of players that everyone fits in to as far as pvp.

Good-Buff orders, prepared for fights potions etc, knows every class in an outs, KNOWS when to flee/duck out/hide and come back, can joust if melee and land specials etc. Slippery as fuck generally.

Average-Keeps buffs current, doesnt care as much on order, not great at jousting but can assist, knows their class role, not totally aware of everyone else.

Bad-Usually newer to EQ or doesnt care so much, Lev/important shit top slot, no clickies/pell slot, Cant joust at all now, Doesnt really know what to do in pvp/runs right in or a caster standing in plain sight, biggest thing tho they DONT know when to flee/heal up come back or what not, they just die.

TLDR I wouldnt rate many people as the best at anything, easy to see whos good, bad, and average tho.

[Infectious]

Lethdar would be my #1.

Most of the old Dentist crew solid pics, Any of the Old Holo aimchat pals solid pics, A handful of Azrael players that are solid picks as well.

EQ Has a shit ton of RNG involved, There are basically 3 classes of players that everyone fits in to as far as pvp.

Good-Buff orders, prepared for fights potions etc, knows every class in an outs, KNOWS when to flee/duck out/hide and come back, can joust if melee and land specials etc. Slippery as fuck generally.

Average-Keeps buffs current, doesnt care as much on order, not great at jousting but can assist, knows their class role, not totally aware of everyone else.

Bad-Usually newer to EQ or doesnt care so much, Lev/important shit top slot, no clickies/pell slot, Cant joust at all now, Doesnt really know what to do in pvp/runs right in or a caster standing in plain sight, biggest thing tho they DONT know when to flee/heal up come back or what not, they just die.

TLDR I wouldnt rate many people as the best at anything, easy to see whos good, bad, and average tho.
Mel kiper mock draft right there

[fred schnarf]

will this hit 100 pages?

[ExedOut]

Can agree with snufz. Lethdar is solid. Lewis or vapo prob my top picks tho.

[Ragnaros]

vaporize tune and nizzar probably most eq skilled players

[fred schnarf]

nizzar is skilled at getting unemployed lifeless nerds to kill raid mobs for him so he can sell the shit for real money

[fiegi 8.0]

nizzar is skilled at getting unemployed lifeless nerds to kill raid mobs for him so he can sell the shit for real money

lold

[Gucci Mane]

http://d971tz8b1pwbi.cloudfront.net/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/tumblr_mxkdl8cGiD1rqd0kpo1_400.gif

[Sektor]

Lethdar my #1 pick. Would take him over lite and gongshow. He's the most skilled player I've been around on eq emu

[Nirgon]

Got a cure shield with his name on it

Hope ya'll like some Dentists in your Velious, tryin' to merse em even now

[georgie]

and ur avatar is anime... grow up

[SamwiseRed]

Nilly been gone for awhile. How this thread still going?

https://usatlife.files.wordpress.com/2014/12/giphy-13.gif?w=645&h=319

[Kergan]

Yeah weird that the guild that ran the server for the vast majority of its existence still is mentioned from time to time. Very abnormal.

[GrobbGangsta]

I would take Lamort #1 overall