PoP servers?

[littlebobby3]

Been seeing forums for luclin and stuff but are there any PoP servers out there?

I started EQ late (got luclin for christmas) and I didn't really grasp the game till PoP so a lot of my time was there.

Before all the flames I just wanna know if there are any legit PoP servers out there.

[Aveenia]

The only one I know of is dead. R.I.P. EQMac.

[Laugher]

None atm except the grand creation, none at all with a 1 boxing limit like here :(

[littlebobby3]

Yeah heard about EQmac too late little sad about it. What is grand creation?

[Laugher]

The grand creation is another one of the legends status servers on the server listing, as it is I think the grand creation goes up to GoD (if not partway through GoD? haven't played too many other places than here and mac in a while hehe)

[littlebobby3]

Eww GoD

[Daywolf]

Yeah it was just PoP for a lot of years, the golden age for PEQ: grand creation, but since moved forward to GoD etc. yeah-yeah sad.. :(
I like much of PoP, just not the PoK books at all.

[Arivelius]

there is a server being worked on that will be PoP locked - http://www.takproject.net/forums/viewforum.php?f=4 is a link to it

[fadetree]

Yeah it was just PoP for a lot of years, the golden age for PEQ: grand creation, but since moved forward to GoD etc. yeah-yeah sad.. :(
I like much of PoP, just not the PoK books at all.

qft

[Daldaen]

People complain soooo much about PoK books, again, not that bad. It's home cities and OT/FV. Not that world ending.

If they hadn't put those in the amount of players who wouldn't have even explored classic zones when starting would've been huge.

Plus... This server may as well have those books. Do you know how often in classic you would see a non-Faydwer race in CB? Almost never. On this server all the time cause people have no reservations asking for a free port on their noob toon.

Same deal with Blackburrow or EC. EC was halfling, human and dark elf basically. On this server every race inhabits the zone (not talking traders, just exping).

There is still a large amount of travel in the game with books in. Plenty of zones are several zone lines and 10-15min runs away from books. If you are complaining about people having an easy time getting from Qeynos to Kelethin, sure. But almost no one makes that run on this server anyways. They get a port.

I'd love to see them disable Druid and wizard group ports for a week. Just to see people complain about having to classic travel.

[Swish]

There'll always be an ample supply of porters here though, gotta get on the EconomyQuest ladder etc.

[Daldaen]

To answer he OP:

EQMac was the best version there ever will be unfortunately. It's just SOE's infrastructure didn't support the old codebase and they didn't think they could profit when there were extra costs involved (which was dumb). Irony is now they are discussing making a PoP time locked server. When they should just resurrect Al'Kabor, make a PC client and charge a subscription. But they are too dumb for that.

After that got shut down, PEQ had a decent influx. But that server has MQ2 allowed so it's largely 20-boxed armies which are all automated. Which is dumb.

The TAKProject is using a legit EQMac client which is good but it's currently in open alpha (buggy/sort of unstable), and they are planning on releasing 1 expansion at a time to break up the workload. This means it won't be a true PoP server for quite awhile.

[fadetree]

I'd love to see them disable Druid and wizard group ports for a week. Just to see people complain about having to classic travel.

? Druid and wiz ports *are* classic travel.

[heartbrand]

? Druid and wiz ports *are* classic travel.

for those who played at release, finding a port was a rare luxury. The majority of the time you had to walk it.

[fadetree]

I played at release. It's still classic travel.

[Tewaz]

Agree with Daldaen.

Are you involved in the TAK project? I loved EQ Mac, and wish I would have played it more.

Books were a really big help for noobs...but they honestly didn't help all that much when you looked at the expansion continents. You still needed a Druid/Wiz or a lot of running to get way out into Kunark, Velious, and Luclin. A book could drop you at specific places in these zones, but you usually had to hoof it afterwards to get to Seb, WW, Ssra, etc.

[Laugher]

TAKP open alpha has been p fun, I would say one of the biggest things going for them is the client. Its just that much more classic ironically haha.

But from what I gathered from their forums they are not looking to do a "true to the era" style progression so much as removing conveniences later added in. It appears to me that they are going to progress in the same fashion as Sony did on their prog servers: take the current server and remove later era material until the xpac for said content is completed.

So yes, *eventually* they'll probably be the most true to era PoP server, with a few mac chars having the option to transfer from tgc that were saved from mac just prior to shutdown from what I understand

They haven't been too clear about whats going to happen with the mac char transfers but my hope would be that they'd just let tgc chars xfer too, got a rogue there I'd love to have on mac :)

[Pringles]

Classic through PoP is my favorite timeframe. I really enjoyed Luclin and PoP (I also really enjoy Classic / Kunark / Velious), after that the game was much too bloated / over the top that it wasnt enjoyable anymore. This would also give people the ability to "stay classic" if they wanted. They dont have to level past 60 if they dont want, they dont have to spend AA if they dont want, they dont have to go to Luclin or PoP if they dont want..... it'd be a lot of fun IMO.

Completely agreed though, resurrect AK and enable PC clients, and charge subscriptions, it'd be a win.

[Clark]

Eww GoD

[SyanideGas]

I wouldn't mind playing on a PoP server just for the raid content. Never had the chance to experience it.

[Daldaen]

I played at release. It's still classic travel.

I remember seeing a high level wizard once in Qeynos Hills. Right after server up. He gated out shortly after.

I ran two half-elves from Qeynos to Kelethin because porters weren't plentiful. That's classic at launch travel. Having to run yourself. Banking all your gear and money except for some food, water and a rusty weapon.

But if that's classic travel to people they basically are saying "no, I don't want to have the option to take a PoK book, instead I want to annoy someone to take time out of their day to save me a long run".

Agree with Daldaen.

Are you involved in the TAK project? I loved EQ Mac, and wish I would have played it more.

Books were a really big help for noobs...but they honestly didn't help all that much when you looked at the expansion continents. You still needed a Druid/Wiz or a lot of running to get way out into Kunark, Velious, and Luclin. A book could drop you at specific places in these zones, but you usually had to hoof it afterwards to get to Seb, WW, Ssra, etc.

Yea I'm on there occasionally. Was on there before they wiped closed alpha and I tested a few things but I'd like to test more. Mac was indeed the shit. Classic client/code and best expansion as the final one. You couldn't get more perfect. Really wish they'd Rez it and charge subscription.

[August]

I'd love to see them disable Druid and wizard group ports for a week. Just to see people complain about having to classic travel.

I would love to see this. The only time I ask for a port is when travel requires a boat. Call me crazy, I love running through Kithicor at night to get to HHP, and I love running through the Karanas stopping at the various camps that drop item loot to give away to noobs in BB and QHills.

[Daywolf]

In a way though, I wouldn't mind seeing wiz and drui ports disabled for a week, then I could turn my anon/rp off and camp in peace :D

But other than that, the post was blather...
Launch state doesn't matter etc. This is classic, not eternal launch, and not instant travel for sure. The world is still big here and people are more inclined to stay in one place for a time and socialize as they hunt rather than ping ponging form place to place.

[Relbaic]

I wouldn't mind playing on a PoP server just for the raid content. Never had the chance to experience it.

That's too bad. PoP raiding was amazing.

[fadetree]

But if that's classic travel to people they basically are saying "no, I don't want to have the option to take a PoK book, instead I want to annoy someone to take time out of their day to save me a long run".


Look, I like PoP, but I don't like the PoK books. Its a reasonable opinion to have. You don't agree. Fine. I'm not saying anyone should be annoyed about anything. Besides, some of your porter bretheren would be very happy to be annoyed by paying customers. And also, in the very early days I used to run people from Qey to FP for tips, I know all about what you are calling classic travel.

[Trelaboon]

I would play on Grand Creation (and i'm sure a lot of others would too) if there was a no-boxing rule.

[Daywolf]

I would play on Grand Creation (and i'm sure a lot of others would too) if there was a no-boxing rule.
Well, there were some guilds in there that were anti-multibox. Not everyone multi-boxed and there was quite a bit of controversy over too many people multi-boxing. The years I played on the server, from launch to... still once in a while, I was about 50% of the time multi-boxing (most often with my druids), and that usually only with two characters, duoing and sometimes grouping with other players.

Server is pretty much empty now, so doesn't matter much anyway. I'm talking years ago... five, six, eight years ago. It's been pretty quiet there for some years. I never multi-boxed on live, played for six years there before going to the emu, but I did in UO live at the time while I had my EQ sub going. So really, it just doesn't matter, it's not like 1k+ logged in there any longer, you will hardly see anyone let alone get griefed by a train of multi-boxed bards hah.

[Castigate]

None of the other servers have any pop.

[Daywolf]

None of the other servers have any pop.
Yeah they do, during peak. Couple or few @ ~200+ and/or on weekends. It's not like p99 is maxed out like any of the original live servers anyway, just too many people consolidating in a few select zones here. But there has been largely a pop shift to p99 leaving far less players on the other servers as it used to be. But "none having any", not a true statement.