Pets Break Mez

[Nineran]

You can check the Rant thread out for more detail.

This is just the information thread.

Your pet, WILL ,break mez if it attacks a mezzed target. And it will repeatedly break mez if the caster has to recast and the pet is still trying to attack a target. Please be courteous and let either the tank, or the mezzer break the mez. Do not depend on non-existent game mechanics stopping your pet from breaking it. Your pet will get the mezzer killed.

[Haynar]

Pets not breaking mez did not come out until sometime after Luclin was released.

Working as intended.

Enjoy.

Haynar

[Nineran]

Yes I agree its working as intended. But people don't seem to understand the way it works. Why I am trying to get the word out. That pets do break mez. That is the way it was in classic. And people need to stop depending on a Non-existing game mechanic, (i.e. Pets stopping auto-attacking when a target is mezzed) to control their pets.

It is the way classic was, there is no fix necessary, other than players fixing their play style.

[Haynar]

What are you saying?

People need to know how to play their class?

*shocker*

Haynar

[Eternal-Elf]

What are you saying?

People need to know how to play their class?

*shocker*

Haynar

How typically understanding and respectful of a member of the dev team.

eh I give you 3 stars.

[Rasterburn]

Chanters likewise need to know their class and not keep trying to mezz targets that are already being handled.

That's the other side of the coin.

[Infectious]

Problem: Pets breaking mezz?
Solution: If adds keep hittin back off, Onced mezzed hit assist button, pet attack. If u dont back pet off even when the first mob is dead your pet will then go at mob to break mez. What is the problem?

[quenyar]

Infectiuos... Chanters can't "pet back off" with summoned pets :)

That being said, I agree with Haynar: Working as intended..

[Omnimorph]

If you see a pet on a mob, the smart thing to do is to root it, not mez it.

[Noleafclover]

This is unclear.

Pets will break mez if:
You set it to attack, and it is then mezzed.
The mob AEs - or otherwise attacks the pet - it and then its target is killed without the controller backing it to clear its aggro.*


Pets will not:
Be commanded to attack a mezzed mob.

Long story short, watch AE casters, obviously don't screw with a mob in the brief moment a poorly played enchanter or bard drops a mez, and JFSJLFKSD use assist if you're silly enough to group as a pet class.

Key mechanic - your pet is an npc with an aggro list that you can clear by hitting back.


*This is where most of the rage comes from. Fun fact - this thread pops up every couple weeks.

[Karnek]

I had to ask someone to get rid of their pet after the first death I ate to this feature.

[Uaellaen]

i disagree, this does not work as intended as i can not order my pet to attack a mezed target if it is already mezed ... like i should be able to in classic

so lets say i see a mezed mob, and i say /pet attack he will tell me "sorry cant attack that right now bla" ... unless it was fixed in the past week

[Falindorf]

Now lets see. As a pet class I have a macro to tell my pet what to attack.

/assist MA Name Goes Here
/pet back off
/pet attack


If a pet class that can control their pet does not have a macros similar to this they should either be quickly instructed on doing so or loose pet their privilege. Its pretty simple. Let be real here. Controlling a pet is not that difficult. If the pet is not being controlled is the pet class someone you really want on your raid or in your group.

Fal

[Nineran]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Haynar View Post
What are you saying?

People need to know how to play their class?

*shocker*

Haynar
How typically understanding and respectful of a member of the dev team.

eh I give you 3 stars.


Haynar originally took my post to be an attack on the server. Which was an incorrect impression. The server is great, and in this regard just like classic. (Well someone did post that in classic you could command your pet to attack a mez target, which you can't do here. And its true you could, but I am glad you can't here.) His second response was just a satirical response to my post.

My post states the obvious. But unfortunately, it needs to be stated. Because tons of people don't get it. He was just acknowledging that I was, stating the obvious hence the *shocker*.

Problem: Pets breaking mezz?
Solution: If adds keep hittin back off, Onced mezzed hit assist button, pet attack. If u dont back pet off even when the first mob is dead your pet will then go at mob to break mez. What is the problem?
Yesterday 10:46 PM

That is the solution! Head his word.


If you see a pet on a mob, the smart thing to do is to root it, not mez it.

That is a great solution! But remember, bards don't have root. And most people can't muster up the energy to think critically. OK the bard's getting fucked up, cause someone, or my, pet is running wild. What should I do?

Usually it falls to me to try to find some way to survive. I have started to keep charm loaded on my spell bar.

So unfortunately your suggestion isn't very helpful to the main issue. Is it a good solution? Yes, can you count on someone being quick witted enough to root when the mezzer is in trouble. NO.

So back to letting everyone know the pets break mez.


Now lets see. As a pet class I have a macro to tell my pet what to attack.

/assist MA Name Goes Here
/pet back off
/pet attack


If a pet class that can control their pet does not have a macros similar to this they should either be quickly instructed on doing so or loose pet their privilege. Its pretty simple. Let be real here. Controlling a pet is not that difficult. If the pet is not being controlled is the pet class someone you really want on your raid or in your group.

Fal

Great Post! Please head his advice. The next big problem. Is with these pet classes... Thats all their DPS! If I ask to remove the pet, then things don't get killed.

So I am stuck between a rock and a hard place. Save my own skin by asking people to drop their pets, but the healer then wasting extra mana healing the tank, having a lot more down time and much slower exp gain.

OR keep the pets up, probably get killed once or twice because of their stupidity, but be able to burn through mobs cause we have tons of DPS.

I usually end up with the latter, because the first one, penalizes the entire groups experience. The second one penalizes only mine.

[Jamal]

Enchanters get root & blur for a reason.

[Arclanz]

i disagree, this does not work as intended as i can not order my pet to attack a mezed target if it is already mezed ... like i should be able to in classic

so lets say i see a mezed mob, and i say /pet attack he will tell me "sorry cant attack that right now bla" ... unless it was fixed in the past week

QFT. The Pet / Mez situation here is much easier than original 99. Although it is true that if a pet is currently attacking a mob; and you mez the mob; the pet will most likely continue to attack the mob and wake it. You can not; however, sick a pet on a mez'd mob. You get "Unable to wake."

[HeallunRumblebelly]

As long as we're talking about fucked up shit--the aggro component on mez / root is WAY off base--combined with the overall dps increase / mob weakness, mez is almost superfluous D=

[Polyphemous]

pets will break an already mezzed mob. When soloing as an ench at lower lvl I'd often agro 2 mobs, back up to see which 1 pet was on and mez the other at a distance. After first mob was dead, the pet would immediately run to the mezd add and attack.

You can't order a pet to break mez, but every other reason a pet has for attacking a mob will still cause a pet to attack a mezzed mob. Mezd target hit the pet before it was mezd, or hit pets owner.

edit:
btw memblur doesn't work well, and root gets broken. The problem is with ignorant pet owners, not enchanter/ bards.

[apio]

as a bard, charm is your friend when you have people in your group who can't watch their pet. Most of the time charm is the better CC anyway, it has less agro than mez and adds some dps too !

Mage01: wtf.. why is my pet not attacking anymore, .. oh yeah im a douchebag, now i remember !

[yaeger]

So basically.. Pets are supposed to be able to break mez.

However, it's currently not like Classic as pets won't attack and break and a mezzed mob with a /pet attack command.

Sounds like it needs to get fixed.

[William_Munny15]

Can say I've only grouped with maybe 2 good bards, the problem is alot of bards will mez adds that are easier/more efficient, IE the ones at the front that are easily targetted or the ones hitting him that make him auto target. I'm not saying it shouldn't be done this way, but the few good bards that i grouped with reacted to the pet and the owner, not mezzing a mob that is already engaged and therefore messing with DPS of the pet and it's magician/necro owner. But I realize alot of the time when u need mez, it's a clusterfuck, and people's health are dropping so u just need to get shit mezzed, so to that I say, yes every pet class should know what to do in that situation, be it rooting as a necro, or backing off and reapplying the pet elsewhere as a mage.