DA KSes offically now?

[Otto]

Nah I was using that to try and point out how ludicrous it was that DA is still around.

Let me rephrase and make it more plain--

DA should no longer exist on this server. The leaders/founding crew had to have been aware of this and yet they did nothing. I know of no reason why they should be allowed to stay on the server. There are plenty of members that should not be reprimanded, but the guild should be dissolved as a whole.

[Ronas]

Now I'm walking down the street and I see a wallet on the ground with an ID and over $800 dollars in cash and no one is around to claim that wallet.


Its mine, hand it over thief

[Theldios]

You're a fucking liar

It comes upon opportunity, just because you haven't cheated as of yet does not men you wont if opportunity arises.

It's like this, let's say I'm not a thief cause I've never stole anything and because I have a fear of punishment if caught. Now I'm walking down the street and I see a wallet on the ground with an ID and over $800 dollars in cash and no one is around to claim that wallet.

Chances are you'd take the money and continue on walking, effectively making you a thief, same situation here if you had insider information that would give you an advantage by third party programs or exploit and no one was around to see you do it, you'd most likely use the program/exploit.
Wrong. Case in point I did find someone wallest that was lost and it was fileld with CC and close 200 in cash I found this poor persons work Id in the wallet called her work they put me in touch with her and I gave back her wallet.
Sorry to say that your morals are low enough to think that everyone else is on the same level as you but I am not in that bracket with you.
I do not feel the need to cheat at anything I do. I thrive on earnign what I have. If oportunity arises I will walk right past it and keep going knowing I stand and a better pair of legs than the guy who is cheating at something. That said I will not whine about someone else cheating either. I would just avoid that person/persons and keep doing things my way.
When you get older kid you will learn that when you cheat at things the only one your cheating is yourself

[nalkin]

Wrong. Case in point I did find someone wallest that was lost and it was fileld with CC and close 200 in cash I found this poor persons work Id in the wallet called her work they put me in touch with her and I gave back her wallet.

Art thou sure your motives weren't merely conniving a much greater plan?

[...Raren]

So wait.. ..you're asking for abacab to come back?

What Otto is trying to say Me and Abacab got banned for doing shit we were not aloud to do and Nilbog told me himself i should of reported it instantly. Now we got DA here exploiting raid bosses knowing when they are going to spawn etc. Problem is GM / Admins punish some people for exploiting / cheating but then we get Jeremy and DA and shit boxing cheating all that stupid shit and they get away with it? What is the difference between Me and Abacab cheating then a whole guild DA cheating? No difference but they are getting away with it right now. GMs need to be consistent with enforcing the rules if they are going to enforce them not just pick and choose who they want to ban and not ban imo i think its bullshit. what is really sad Durison came on the boards flaming the fuck out of IB saying they cheat then the next week we hear about DA exploiting raid timers now isnt that funny? Durison isnt just a member he is the leader of DA he is the one that gave all the officer crew in DA showEQ.

[Theldios]

Art thou sure your motives weren't merely conniving a much greater plan?
No sorry friend I have been happly married for 26 years and love my wife I had no other alterier motives

[Abacab niggah]

Sorry to say that your morals are low enough to think that everyone else is on the same level as you but I am not in that bracket with you.
When you get older kid you will learn that when you cheat at things the only one your cheating is yourself

Are you blind? You're surrounded by thieves, murderers, cheaters, and corruption from the bourgeoisie. Despite my morality, it's just common fact that those around you really cannot be trusted without some sort of assurance on their end.

As for "cheating yourself" the only thing you're robbing yourself out of is hard work and dedication, so you lack a satisfaction of having made an accomplishment, but keep in mind you and I live in America so discarding hard work and dedication for the easy/quick route is common practice and socially encouraged.

[Regnon]

so are they getting banned or not, if not thats kind of bullshit

[Ralph]

Abacab, come hangout with me in dagnors again! I will pay for your poisons <3

[a_forum_troll_001]

Just to confirm some suspicion:

We located an issue related to some players getting spawn times of raid bosses. We have resolved it.

That's all we're disclosing.

It was working properly. They were getting the exact time a mob was due to spawn.

so are they getting banned or not, if not thats kind of bullshit

short answer, nope.
longerish answer, "they" is implied as the "some players", neither of which are nicknames for DA as far as i know. but hey, lets point fingers anyway.

blindly crucify people when you don't understand their tactic. im sure its a better investment of your time rather than trying to learn and compete. if you think DA/IB/Div/Trans/whomever wander aimlessly from raid zone to raid zone, clearing it in hopes of the offchance a boss mob might just so happen to spawn while they're hanging out, you're sadly mistaken. (with the exception of isle 4 and up on sky, that place is poopbarreled.)

[Ronas]

Its funny that rogean would actually post in this specific thread. Wouldnt that imply something? Unless he trying to stir the pot see what people come up with.

[a_forum_troll_001]

well every other thread here is a wah wah DA outplayed me thread. I'm sure if this was a non-specific poopfligning thread, or one under a different banner, same result.

these boards pick a new martyr every few weeks it seems.

[Harrison]

Outplayed?

LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL

Do you even play on this server?

DA hasn't outdone anybody in anything besides being epic-level douchebags since they were Fishbait.

[Beau]

Nah I was using that to try and point out how ludicrous it was that DA is still around.

Let me rephrase and make it more plain--

DA should no longer exist on this server. The leaders/founding crew had to have been aware of this and yet they did nothing. I know of no reason why they should be allowed to stay on the server. There are plenty of members that should not be reprimanded, but the guild should be dissolved as a whole.

If I were a current member of DA...

That should be a thread in itself. But seriously this is about the time GOOD members might want to start thinking about saving face and cutting their losses. IF something happens and leadership is banned, guild is dissolved, etc., it would look a LOT better on you when you are applying to new guilds if you can show that you did the right thing and left before you were forced out.

At least thats what I will think when I see your app.

[Isidro]

Why is everyone assuming the guild that has always camped mobs is the one cheating, yet everyone ignores the fact that transcendance, the guild that doesn't camp mobs, decided to camp Innoruuk right before he spawned?

Food for thought.

[a_forum_troll_001]

if you want nice and neat little borders and lines where everyone holds hands and lets people rotate bosses and tickle each other in between, then yes, all these raiding guilds are sneaky backstabbing douchebags.

but thats not how classic was, you *fought* for mobs. not said hayyy guys can i haz this peas? i waited sooo longz killing dis trash. get a fucking backbone.

[Ronas]

if you want nice and neat little borders and lines where everyone holds hands and lets people rotate bosses and tickle each other in between, then yes, all these raiding guilds are sneaky backstabbing douchebags.


Ring a-ring o' roses,
A pocketful of posies.
a-tishoo!, a-tishoo!.
We all fall down.

[a_forum_troll_001]

Outplayed?

LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL

Do you even play on this server?

DA hasn't outdone anybody in anything besides being epic-level douchebags since they were Fishbait.

sorry for not directly addressing your opinion. i define "outplayed" as in did whatever necessary within the written rules of gameplay established by Rogean to accomplish the entire point of this game, which is killing raid bosses.

in this regard, IB out plays everyone with their sky blockade, which so far has been totally and utterly allowed by the admins. But i see no IB threads this month. Does it suck? yup. am i mad? yup. am i gona whine and bitch until the rules are bent in my favor? nope, this is where you use that backbone thing to suck it up, and forge ahead. top guilds dont become top guilds by shitting rainbows and afk'ing in ec.

sorry, i have no sympathy for anybody in a video game.

[Estharik]

Why is everyone assuming the guild that has always camped mobs is the one cheating, yet everyone ignores the fact that transcendance, the guild that doesn't camp mobs, decided to camp Innoruuk right before he spawned?

Food for thought.

We weren't up there to camp inny. We actually had plans for sky, went up and Divinity was there so we left for hate. We left Divinity out of respect for their raid force that was already in the zone. When we went to hate, DA showed up and it went from there...

[Virtuosos]

not to mention we wanted to do fear before hate, but DA was there already as well.... we were forced to hate by process of elimination, and we were actively clearing it while blindly hoping for a raid boss to pop before we all got tired of sitting for an hour.


but whatever, not like all this has been said 20 times already in this thread

[lauremore]

We weren't up there to camp inny. We actually had plans for sky, went up and Divinity was there so we left for hate. We left Divinity out of respect for their raid force that was already in the zone. When we went to hate, DA showed up and it went from there...

If you really want to know one of your members blabbed last week when you killed inny you asshat. So after we left sky and went to hate, I told the raid leaders inny had a chance to spawn. They said, "oh ok prolly wont so lets clear". Then 55 of you ported up and we put two and two together and viola Inny popped.

[Ronas]

If you really want to know one of your members blabbed last week when you killed inny you asshat. So after we left sky and went to hate, I told the raid leaders inny had a chance to spawn. They said, "oh ok prolly wont so lets clear". Then 55 of you ported up and we put two and two together and viola Inny popped.

Then it became a fuckfest.
Bow chickie bow bow

[Jellob_Iafra]

Not making accusations just pointing out something that happend...5-10 min before vox spawned (when it was Div / DA / Trans clusterfuck ) Trans showed up and started fully raid buffing. Pets and everything.

[lauremore]

Not making accusations just pointing out something that happend...5-10 min before vox spawned (when it was Div / DA / Trans clusterfuck ) Trans showed up and started fully raid buffing. Pets and everything.

What makes the situation more interesting is I calculated that there was still a varience, yet DA brought up 50 initialy then 10 more a few mins b4 he spawned. Also after we cleared inny's room they tried to rush in and claim camp. And really are they gonna poopsock for 24-48hours with 65+ in zone. Get real.

[Falisaty]

Why is everyone assuming the guild that has always camped mobs is the one cheating, yet everyone ignores the fact that transcendance, the guild that doesn't camp mobs, decided to camp Innoruuk right before he spawned?

Food for thought.

Their we go trying to spin the truth again.....

[mimixownzall]

I'm suprised anyone plays on this server anymore.

I came here with high hopes of the classic feel. I got those feelings until I delved into the realm of raiding. Live had its moments of drama, but people finally started coming up with calendars and it solved a huge majority of the problems. Camping for raid mobs? Seriously? How hard would it have been to come up with a calendar? Not hard at all. This leads me to think that the devs are just as much part of the drama problem as the players (duh). I bet they watch daytime soaps too.

Nothing but drama queen douchbaggery.

A bunch of fat virgins sitting in their mother's basement playing this game thinking they are actually accomplishing something.

Do us all a favor and slit your wrists

[Virtuosos]

we also started logging our members or going afk, when the druid calmly stated "who needs SL....oh hey vox", we had 7 members logged out or already afk. we only head up there because we saw earlier div and da heading there, our raid finished in fear and we decided why the fuck not.



but yeah...

[Jellob_Iafra]

What makes the situation more interesting is I calculated that there was still a varience, yet DA brought up 50 initialy then 10 more a few mins b4 he spawned. Also after we cleared inny's room they tried to rush in and claim camp. And really are they gonna poopsock for 24-48hours with 65+ in zone. Get real.

i was kinda hinting at it being suspicious that TRANS showed up 10 mins before vox spawned and started buffing ( pets included so its not like they were buffing to log off ) I know vox was not up when trans started pouring in..i was tracking

[lauremore]

we also started logging our members or going afk, when the druid calmly stated "who needs SL....oh hey vox", we had 7 members logged out or already afk. we only head up there because we saw earlier div and da heading there, our raid finished in fear and we decided why the fuck not.



but yeah...

Don't let those fuckers spin the truth. DA cleared hate earlier in that day with people. I saw it. They could have poopsocked then if they had "no idea" if he would pop or not. If that isn't enough for you then wtf didnt they rush to his spawn point earlier when we were clearing? So stfu, they got caught, they need to be banned, end of story!

[Virtuosos]

laure .... what? like what the fuck are you talking about? it seems like you are confused about who we are talking about

[Supreme]

i was kinda hinting at it being suspicious that TRANS showed up 10 mins before vox spawned and started buffing ( pets included so its not like they were buffing to log off ) I know vox was not up when trans started pouring in..i was tracking

Ya funny how three guilds all showed up at the same time for Vox.......

[lauremore]

laure .... what? like what the fuck are you talking about? it seems like you are confused about who we are talking about

I miss quoted my bad xD!

[Supreme Retard]

Ya funny how three guilds all showed up at the same time for Vox.......

Even funnier how DA didn't show up until after both the other two guilds were already there and after Vox herself had spawned. OMG cheaters! BAN DIVINITY TRANS AND DA OMG!

[Harrison]

Here it is guys.

It's a bit later than I expected, but here comes the twisting of the events in an effort to make DA look "clean". lmfao!

[Jellob_Iafra]

I felt i should mention im in divinity.

[Glitterati]

Hey...even a blind squirrel finds a nut every once in awhile...

[Rogean]

First off,

To anyone doubting our discipline actions.

Do you think we would knowingly let someone play on the server if we had solid proof they had compromised the database information? You got to be fucking kidding me if you think so. If I link you to a hack, an exploit, any sort of even ATTEMPTED hacking of the server, your character is fucking gone. I don't mess around with that shit.

With that said, I'm not banning an entire fucking guild because one of two of their players had managed to compromise some information, and to think otherwise is unreasonable.

ATLEAST 8 Accounts have been linked to this incident, some of those in top guilds. They were banned over the last few days. Will I say what guilds?

No.

As I continue to state repeatedly over and over, CSR Issues are non-disclosure when it comes to specific information pertaining to disciplinary actions against players.

[Rogean]

The reason it was mentioned in this thread specifically is because the topic had already been brought up (The suspicion of knowing raid target spawn times).

[Virtuosos]

what guild you are in doesnt change the fact that you are wrong about trans and vox. we were plannin on camping out to alts like da and div did, just so happens that vox popped a minute after people decided to go afk

[Ronas]

To sum that all up, he saying you all cheaters (What abacab said), its just the thread specifically about the one guild making said guild look like douch... but turns out you all are, hahaha

[sidgb]

top guilds.

That's plural. As in more than one top guild...hmmm

[Abacab niggah]

"Stripped, banned, and no disclosure"

FUCK THE GM I'VE HEARD THEM BUT THEN SOMEONE HAS TO CASH THIS CHECK
A THIRD OF MY GUILD GETS BANNED AND THEN THE OTHER HALF ACCUSES ME OF SHIT

AND THEN WHAT'S LEFT SEEMS LIKE A GIFT IT NEARLY BRINGS TEARS TO THESE EYES
CAUSE THERE'S FOLKS IN IRC THAT SLEEP IN SATIN SHEETS AND SAY THIS RAID IS COMPROMISED

COULD THIS BE THE SERVER THAT WE ALL BELONG?
DIDN'T RULES GUARANTEE ME ANYTHING BESIDES OVERTIME FOR CAMPING SHIT ALONE?
I WANT TO TEAR THIS FUCKER DOWN

YOU KNOW IT SEEMS LIKE IT'S ALL LEAPFROGGING NOW AND WHICH ONES YOU TAKE STOCK IN
BUT I CAN'T HELP THINKING THIS CHEATED FEELING'S UNIVERSAL WHEN WE'RE ALL CLOCKED IN
AND I WANT TO RAISE CAIN WHEN THE TROLLS SAY "THEY'RE CHEATERS, GRIEFERS, AND VIRGINS LIVING AT HOME"


I WONDER IF THEY THINK THEIR GUILDS KNOW WHAT IT'S LIKE TO HAVE BITCHES HITTING ME UP ON BATPHONE

AM I ONE OF THE CHEATERS THAT GUIDES RAILED ON AT CSHOME?
CAUSE IF I AM THAN CHEERS TO THEM CAUSE AT LEAST I KNOW I'M NOT ALONE
I WANT TO TEAR THIS FUCKER DOWN

[...Raren]

First off,

To anyone doubting our discipline actions.

Do you think we would knowingly let someone play on the server if we had solid proof they had compromised the database information? You got to be fucking kidding me if you think so. If I link you to a hack, an exploit, any sort of even ATTEMPTED hacking of the server, your character is fucking gone. I don't mess around with that shit.

With that said, I'm not banning an entire fucking guild because one of two of their players had managed to compromise some information, and to think otherwise is unreasonable.

ATLEAST 8 Accounts have been linked to this incident, some of those in top guilds. They were banned over the last few days. Will I say what guilds?

No.

As I continue to state repeatedly over and over, CSR Issues are non-disclosure when it comes to specific information pertaining to disciplinary actions against players.

LOL @ CSR getting all professional n shit

[Rogean]

This ain't no corporation broski.

[Estharik]

If you really want to know one of your members blabbed last week when you killed inny you asshat. So after we left sky and went to hate, I told the raid leaders inny had a chance to spawn. They said, "oh ok prolly wont so lets clear". Then 55 of you ported up and we put two and two together and viola Inny popped.

ok fuckface you like to call names, I didn't say anything that was offensive. I wasn't there for any other inny kill last week, and there damn sure wasn't 55 trans in hate when what was discussed in this thread went down. Next time think before calling someone asshat; you have no clue what you're talking about obviously.

[Ronas]

ok fuckface you like to call names, I didn't say anything that was offensive. I wasn't there for any other inny kill last week, and there damn sure wasn't 55 trans in hate when what was discussed in this thread went down. Next time think before calling someone asshat; you have no clue what you're talking about obviously.

Hhahah, i dont know if i am reading this incorrectly, but you have two trans member dissing each other out???

I think he ment 55 DA popped up, but okey sure let make it 55 Trans

[Supreme]

Even funnier how DA didn't show up until after both the other two guilds were already there and after Vox herself had spawned. OMG cheaters! BAN DIVINITY TRANS AND DA OMG!

Ok you are an idiot.

[Evorix]

Hhahah, i dont know if i am reading this incorrectly, but you have two trans member dissing each other out???

I think he ment 55 DA popped up, but okey sure let make it 55 Trans

LMAO, i was thinking the same exact thing. Both are QQing about the same shit and don't realize its two trannys.

[Virtuosos]

i dont know if lauremore is trans or not, to be honest i dont think he/she is...and to be even more honest, i have a hard time understanding what he/she is typing


take for example her/his quote of me a page or two away.....

[liveitup1216]

This ain't no corporation broski.

hahah ily<3 why couldnt you have been around when sony was hiring tards instead :(

[girth]

I wonder why g13 hasn't posted in here.

[Ronas]

Don't let those fuckers spin the truth. DA cleared hate earlier in that day with people. I saw it. They could have poopsocked then if they had "no idea" if he would pop or not. If that isn't enough for you then wtf didnt they rush to his spawn point earlier when we were clearing? So stfu, they got caught, they need to be banned, end of story!

I try translate this for u virt, his saying that DA was in hate earlier and had cleared it but didnt stay. But they could have if they wanted to poopsock, yet they left and came back almost exactly when inny popped.

But yah, that was kind of wtf are you talking about....

So now its 3 trans dissing it out.

[Barfight]

Ya funny how three guilds all showed up at the same time for Vox.......

To be clear, we were there tracking for over a day before anyone showed up and didn't log in until after she spawned. No one else was.

Also, thank you Rogean for banning those who offended. Will the loot that was unfairly gained be destroyed?

[Virtuosos]

i understood what he meant, i didnt understand why he quoted me :p until he told me i mean but still...


anyways, anyone wanting to guess at names of who was banned? 8 people, and it seems this thread is losing its fire :/

[zianlo1]

Wrong. Case in point I did find someone wallest that was lost and it was fileld with CC and close 200 in cash I found this poor persons work Id in the wallet called her work they put me in touch with her and I gave back her wallet.
Sorry to say that your morals are low enough to think that everyone else is on the same level as you but I am not in that bracket with you.
I do not feel the need to cheat at anything I do. I thrive on earnign what I have. If oportunity arises I will walk right past it and keep going knowing I stand and a better pair of legs than the guy who is cheating at something. That said I will not whine about someone else cheating either. I would just avoid that person/persons and keep doing things my way.
When you get older kid you will learn that when you cheat at things the only one your cheating is yourself

I like this guy....Similar to how birthdays and xmas isnt all about the present, is about spending good quality time with people you love and care about. Am trying to teach my 4 yr old them qualities, but he's 4 =P

[Bubbles]

I wonder why g13 hasn't posted in here.

if so, you're likely the only one. ;)

[Abacab niggah]

I feel for Rogean, I too suffered abuse from players (mostly from VZTZ) :

Originally Posted by Gobbe:

Let me ask you guys, how the hell did a random dude from p99 manage to troll his way into full GM access with summon capabilities?

Originally Posted by Epas

Before I asked him to leave our raid, he turned me into a boat so I couldn't even move. Later he came back and killed half the raid.

Originally Posted by Epas

oh great, its Abacab. better log before he turns you into a boat or changes your surname.

[Pheer]

who says you have to mention them by guilds rogean? just tell us player names. Why would you want to protect their reputation or what the fuck ever if they were doing shady shit like this.

[oswald]

Abacab was the best Guide on Vz Tz for the week he was there. Was fun there with his little pvp events. To bad the "uber" guild got all but hurt for the 10 minutes of fooling around turning into boats that got him ousted.

[Tokum-6n0m3]

who says you have to mention them by guilds rogean? just tell us player names. Why would you want to protect their reputation or what the fuck ever if they were doing shady shit like this.

I think thats obvious, he mentions the names, you all know the guilds, and then he'd be just fueling the fire that you all live off of lol~

[Tokum-6n0m3]

There reputation obviously means little since they're banned, I seriously doubt he cares about that at all....

[Ronas]

I guess if you have the time, just /who all the leadership/officer of all the planar guilds for acouple of days, and see which are missing. There is your list

[aVoided]

I fail to see how we are poopsocking if we were in the zone for 3+ hours previously clearing trash and mobs. It's not like we sat in Solb waiting for naggy for 48 hrs with 15+ people. Then someone looks at the clock and date and says *hey is innoruk due tonight?* another says *i think so* Cool lets hang out for a bit. As we continue clearing trash and mobs sitting clearly in innoruks room. Only to have DA roll into the room and sit on us 10 mins before he spawn... yeah poopsocking...

[Ronas]

I fail to see how we are poopsocking if we were in the zone for 3+ hours previously clearing trash and mobs. It's not like we sat in Solb waiting for naggy for 48 hrs with 15+ people. Then someone looks at the clock and date and says *hey is innoruk due tonight?* another says *i think so* Cool lets hang out for a bit. As we continue clearing trash and mobs sitting clearly in innoruks room. Only to have DA roll into the room and sit on us 10 mins before he spawn... yeah poopsocking...

errr, get up to date mate, thats like 30 pages back.

[Kutter]

its about damn time DA got caught. a little justification for Abacab too, even though he went about his crusade the wrong way. not every guild cheats either, but the guilds that haven't and don't play "second best" to the ones that do.

its funny I had so many high hopes for this server, and its fun until you max out and have to deal with all the cheaters and hackers. that's held true from live too, but I thought it would be different here. you can argue that it IS a classic experience though.

props to the devs, but as a whole, the cheating has gone on much too long, and the punishments have not been nearly enough to deter the risk. too bad shitloads of good people quit the server because of it.

[sidgb]

its about damn time DA got caught. a little justification for Abacab too, even though he went about his crusade the wrong way. not every guild cheats either, but the guilds that haven't and don't play "second best" to the ones that do.

its funny I had so many high hopes for this server, and its fun until you max out and have to deal with all the cheaters and hackers. that's held true from live too, but I thought it would be different here. you can argue that it IS a classic experience though.

props to the devs, but as a whole, the cheating has gone on much too long, and the punishments have not been nearly enough to deter the risk. too bad shitloads of good people quit the server because of it.

Technically DA has not "been caught" though I think it's pretty obvious some in the guild were involved. At least not more that other guilds "got caught" who were also involved. Assuming what Rogean said about "top guilds" being accurate.

At this point DA is just getting all the heat when other "top guilds" deserve just as much disdain.

[sidgb]

And for the record. Being in the zone a couple of hours before the spawn clearing trash, and getting lucky on a boss mob spawn, would be great cover for knowing the spawn times.

After all, other guilds don't want to be too obvious like DA was. Which was arguably their really big mistake. Without more details the whole raid scene is tainted by this.

[Kutter]

At this point DA is just getting all the heat when other "top guilds" deserve just as much disdain.

it really all comes down to leadership. knowing the history of guilds from server up through now helps. the "handful" of fishbait members for example (whose leaders were known cheat/hack/exploit artists) that made it to DA were a good indication of where that guild was headed.

the proclivity for cheating starts with the leadership in the guilds. DA entered the scene just as fishbait did, and if you're old enough on the server to remember "first to any target, guaranteed" you'll know wtf i'm talking about.

it all catches up in the end maybe, but the problem is the months and months that go by where guilds with honest leadership get steamrolled. the problem with those guilds id they're not very vocal about being screwed, and there's a lesson to be learned about squeaky wheels.

[Tiggles]

it really all comes down to leadership. knowing the history of guilds from server up through now helps. the "handful" of fishbait members for example (whose leaders were known cheat/hack/exploit artists) that made it to DA were a good indication of where that guild was headed.

the proclivity for cheating starts with the leadership in the guilds. DA entered the scene just as fishbait did, and if you're old enough on the server to remember "first to any target, guaranteed" you'll know wtf i'm talking about.

it all catches up in the end maybe, but the problem is the months and months that go by where guilds with honest leadership get steamrolled. the problem with those guilds id they're not very vocal about being screwed, and there's a lesson to be learned about squeaky wheels.

Fishbait is on this server?

They where hack central on vz/tz if its the same fishbaot

[Harrison]

Yup, same dirtbags from VZ/TZ.

They reformed and didn't change one bit, besides spam inviting people to poopsock like the no-talent fucks they are.

[troll]

it really all comes down to leadership. knowing the history of guilds from server up through now helps. the "handful" of fishbait members for example (whose leaders were known cheat/hack/exploit artists) that made it to DA were a good indication of where that guild was headed.

the proclivity for cheating starts with the leadership in the guilds. DA entered the scene just as fishbait did, and if you're old enough on the server to remember "first to any target, guaranteed" you'll know wtf i'm talking about.

it all catches up in the end maybe, but the problem is the months and months that go by where guilds with honest leadership get steamrolled. the problem with those guilds id they're not very vocal about being screwed, and there's a lesson to be learned about squeaky wheels.

Apparently your jealousy and indignation towards guilds that are better than you has prevented you from understanding basic concepts.

We know a few things that are factual. Anything else is heresy and frivolous babble. I will break down the facts that we currently know in simple terms in hopes you can understand.

Statements from Rogean:

1. “ATLEAST 8 Accounts have been linked to this incident, some of those in top guilds. Will I say what guilds? No. ”
2. “The reason it was mentioned in this thread specifically is because the topic had already been brought up (The suspicion of knowing raid target spawn times).”
3. “As I continue to state repeatedly over and over, CSR Issues are non-disclosure when it comes to specific information pertaining to disciplinary actions against players.”

Here is a breakdown of these three statements:

Statement One:

- 8 players were permanently banned due to cheating (omg abacab was right!)
- Some of these said 8 were in top guilds (Bregan D’Aerth, Sapientia, IB, DA)
- Some of these said 8 were in zerg guilds (Darkwind)
- Some of these said 8 were in guilds the server laughs at (Transcendence)
- Some of these said 8 were in guilds that want their hand held and need a tissue (Divinity)
- And we know that these guilds will not be revealed (speculate and flame the guild you compete with the most on this thread!)

Statement Two:

- This thread was used by Rogean as the topic of “suspicion of knowing raid target spawn times” was already discussed here. (if you don’t understand this you’re a tool)

Statement Three:

- Players that were disciplined will not be announced
- Players that were banned will remain anonymous
- The players that were removed from the server will never be known
- Non-disclosure (this means it’s a secret!)


We can conclude the following:
A. Abacab may be an ass but he speaks the truth and that is most guilds have a few cheaters in them!
B. Rogean and crew do a good job eliminating said cheaters.

On a side note, I did some investigation last night and it appeared all the officers of DA were online! The same can not be said for Transcendence!

[Lagaidh]

You know... this server has captured one aspect that is so perfectly live:

Stay away from official forums, enjoy the game more.

[Lostprophets]

On a side note, I did some investigation last night and it appeared all the officers of DA were online! The same can not be said for Transcendence!

Thats funny...it really is...I like how you tried shifting the band wagon...Clearly You are smoking rocks.

It's a shame Transcendence can't sit and shit in a sock 24 hours a day staring mindlessly at EQ because they have a day job and cannot get on every day...Something you forum trolls obviously don't.

Keep the hamster on the wheel kiddo, need to think some more about that.

[troll]

Thats funny...it really is...I like how you tried shifting the band wagon...Clearly You are smoking rocks.

It's a shame Transcendence can't sit and shit in a sock 24 hours a day staring mindlessly at EQ because they have a day job and cannot get on every day...Something you forum trolls obviously don't.

Keep the hamster on the wheel kiddo, need to think some more about that.

I have a day job sir! More false unabashed accusations! :)

[Theldios]

I like this guy....Similar to how birthdays and xmas isnt all about the present, is about spending good quality time with people you love and care about. Am trying to teach my 4 yr old them qualities, but he's 4 =P

I have taught those qualitys to all 3 of my children. (even though i spoiled the hell out them and gave them whatever they asked for)
I made sure they know that quality time is what it is all about when it comes to family.
2 of my boys are full grown men now but I have a 7 yer old and I still make it part of my routine to take a walk with him at the beach on sat and sunday morning and talk to him about whatever he wants to talk about. When it comes down too it all you really have is family.

[Dukat]

How long has the spawn data been leaking?

[troll]

DA: 1 banned
Divinity: 1 banned
Inglourious Basterds: 3 banned
Transcendence: 2 banned

We have one unaccounted banning! Post the offender!

[...Raren]

DA: 1 banned
Divinity: 1 banned
Inglourious Basterds: 3 banned
Transcendence: 2 banned

We have one unaccounted banning! Post the offender!

Lol who in IB got banned?

[Starklen]

Yeah, please tell us.

[...Raren]

We want names!

[troll]

Names will be unveiled on September 11th to mark the ultimate day of douchbaggery.

[...Raren]

Names will be unveiled on September 11th to mark the ultimate day of douchbaggery.

Lol im calling bullshit

[...Raren]

I think it involves something with certain devs

[Humerox]

bunch of bullshit...

ello Rasterburn. if you'd been on the server more than a fucking week you might have a clue. the best thing you can do is















stfu

[Humerox]

and yes i'm Kutter. the cat is out

[zianlo1]

I think it involves something with certain devs

All of the top guilds have at least one dev in them...DUH!!!

[Bagzan]

Lol who in IB got banned?

Good question, I'd love to know too, especially since we've been in Sky since it came out.

[...Raren]

All of the top guilds have at least one dev in them...DUH!!!

DA doesnt have a dev anymore Tralina quit the guild meaning no Rogean favors for DA why you think they lost Inny to Trans ? Yeah every other guild has some sort of a dev in them :)

[...Raren]

DA comes up with there own ways to cheat they dont need no fucking GM to tell them how to cheat!

[...Raren]

I just got done talking to a certain member in IB and he confirms that Xzerion was involved with this whole thing and the only reason why he didnt get banned was because he was a Dev on the P99 Team

[quido]

OMG!!!!

[Humerox]

All of the top guilds have at least one dev in them...DUH!!!

and that's fuckin' bullshit too. and just to clear shit up, the reason i started a troll account was to keep Divinity out of my personal shit-stirring. now that the cat's out, I'm /guildremoved and could give a fuck less what people think.

i will say that I was in Div before the 99% of the people either in that guild or currently on the server were even here, and all the cockdribblers that think Div ever did anything but play the game square can suck my ass.

I have a serious hard-on for you motherfuckers that have been cheating and hacking this game, because you stick a big "fuck you" to everyone that wanted to enjoy what it really was, and all the hard work the devs have put in to make it happen. most of you zit -aced prepubescent scumbags were prolly suckin' your momma's tit when the game rolled out, and you don't have a fucking clue.

and for the inevitable "umadbro?":

yeah, i'm pissed. suck my dick.

[nilbog]

I just got done talking to a certain member in IB and he confirms that Xzerion was involved with this whole thing and the only reason why he didnt get banned was because he was a Dev on the P99 Team

I can confirm that's absolute bullshit.

Your ... account is now banned for spreading lies about developers.

[Abacab niggah]

I can confirm that's absolute bullshit.

Your ... account is now banned for spreading lies about developers.

Do I get a pardon now that people come to realize that everything I said was the truth and that the reasoning behind my actions were justified due to these new turn of events?

[Holey]

Do I get a pardon now that people come to realize that everything I said was the truth and that the reasoning behind my actions were justified due to these new turn of events?

THE NAME :(
Wheres Abbacab_Yo at?

[Abacab niggah]

I'm sorry for trainin' y'all in the EC, but I'm not too sorry for training the uber guilds in question, because in most instances those people deserved it. So fi you died in the EC rage, I'm sorry... but if you were running packetsniffers and poopsocking for 3 days straight, you had it coming.

So I'm sorry EC

[Starklen]

IB hasn't even killed a single old world boss since sky came out. The sky boss timers aren't variable. Shrug.

[Humerox]

I'm sorry for trainin' y'all in the EC, but I'm not too sorry for training the uber guilds in question, because in most instances those people deserved it. So fi you died in the EC rage, I'm sorry... but if you were running packetsniffers and poopsocking for 3 days straight, you had it coming.

So I'm sorry EC

u sorry about that other shit you did too, bro? u know wtf I'm talking about, so don't even try. ur problem is you take server politics out on everyone that wants to play the game; people who don't know and could care less about the behind-the-scenes bullshit. there's a thousand other things you could have done versus ruining the gameplay for a ton of people.

[Supreme]

Trans had all their officers in Hate the night Inny was killed.

As far as i know Divinity does not, nor has ever, hacked or cheated in any way.

I am not sure who was "banned" that was in Transcendence for hacking. I also do not know who is or is not "Devs" in Transcendence.

Humorox sorry you got /guildremoved from Divinity...now who is laughing at who?

[Abacab niggah]

u sorry about that other shit you did too, bro? u know wtf I'm talking about, so don't even try. ur problem is you take server politics out on everyone that wants to play the game; people who don't know and could care less about the behind-the-scenes bullshit. there's a thousand other things you could have done versus ruining the gameplay for a ton of people.

Could you do me a favor and name the other shit?

[Humerox]

Humorox sorry you got /guildremoved from Divinity...now who is laughing at who?

they didn't do it, I did. they probably would have take the heat if I'd wanted to stay, that's how loyal they are to each other. best bunch of people I've played with since live in any game; that includes Eve, Shadowbane, and a host of other games.

i'll stick up for Trans too, especially since u took the leadership spot and cleaned house. too bad the roaches that play the game like to blow smokescreens and try to fuck with decent guilds competing with them.

[troll]

they didn't do it, I did. they probably would have take the heat if I'd wanted to stay, that's how loyal they are to each other. best bunch of people I've played with since live in any game; that includes Eve, Shadowbane, and a host of other games.

i'll stick up for Trans too, especially since u took the leadership spot and cleaned house. too bad the roaches that play the game like to blow smokescreens and try to fuck with decent guilds competing with them.

So has your wife started to ignore you too?

[Humerox]

So has your wife started to ignore you too?

she's playin' with my nuts as we speak. thanks for asking, though.

[Alcandre]

no shes not

[Trimm]

DA: 1 banned
Divinity: 1 banned
Inglourious Basterds: 3 banned
Transcendence: 2 banned


I'd love to see any crumb of evidence to support this. IB hasn't killed a old-world target since Sky has been out, so thats quite a waste of "inside info". I've never personally suspected Trans of of openly cheating and would be very surprised to hear otherwise. If I ever even suspected someone in Divinity we're cheating, I'd out them myself. We don't tolerate that sort of nonsense. I'm sure you guys can figure out my feelings about DA, so I won't say anything about them.

If you have any sort of beef against a Divinity member you can always bring it to an officer and it will be delt with, as it has been in the past.

[Humerox]

Trimm, he's just holding to his namesake. He doesn't know a fucking thing about the server except what he's read on the forums. He can't make a splash in the community so he wants to try it here.

For fuck sakes. he can't even come up with a better name than "troll". as smart as he thinks he is, he could have coe up with some slick adianoeta or some shit, but hey, obvious troll is




obvious.

[troll]

Trimm, he's just holding to his namesake. He doesn't know a fucking thing about the server except what he's read on the forums. He can't make a splash in the community so he wants to try it here.

For fuck sakes. he can't even come up with a better name than "troll". as smart as he thinks he is, he could have coe up with some slick adianoeta or some shit, but hey, obvious troll is




obvious.

Rednecks don’t have the authority to be judging intelligence. Stick to crying and fluffing the bull for your wife. She needs this after a long day of hearing you whine. Skeet skeet

[Tokum-6n0m3]

Trimm, he's just holding to his namesake. He doesn't know a fucking thing about the server except what he's read on the forums. He can't make a splash in the community so he wants to try it here.

For fuck sakes. he can't even come up with a better name than "troll". as smart as he thinks he is, he could have coe up with some slick adianoeta or some shit, but hey, obvious troll is


Actually I'm sure he probably does play on the server, but he obviously doesn't believe enough in what he's saying to stand by it by posting with his real forum acct ( im sure he has one that has his character name tag'd to it)

Guy's seriously, man up and grow some balls, I don't know alot of the childish drama thats happening at end game yet. I just started. But if your gonna make silly post and accuse people of things, man up and back it with your in game name, I'd rather be wrong 99% of the time and the whole server think I'm a nub, then be a pussy afraid to put my name on something I believe in.......

[Humerox]

Rednecks don’t have the authority to be judging intelligence. Stick to crying and fluffing the bull for your wife. She needs this after a long day of hearing you whine. Skeet skeet

still pissed at me for taking you apart a couple weeks ago, aincha? get over it, man. yer argumentum ad hominem fails as miserably as your flaming pseudo-intellectualism.

skeet skeet; u referring to what landed on you during your last bukkake session? seriously bro, suck it up and go home. a war of wits depends on both people having something to fight with, and your half-assed attempts suck.

[h0tr0d (shaere)]

u. This whole logging in a few minutes before CT spawns, or the instant Vox spawns, raid force buffed and ready is insane. Running into the temple when Inny was due.. not an hour earlier, within minutes. That is not fair competition.



I'm not sure what's so hard to understand about getting ready for a target that's due in a short period of time.

Just to confirm some suspicion:

We located an issue related to some players getting spawn times of raid bosses. We have resolved it.

That's all we're disclosing.



It was working properly. They were getting the exact time a mob was due to spawn.

[Holey]

i like pie

[h0tr0d (shaere)]

Math professors like pii.

[Humerox]

Math professors like pii.

they shape 'em like Wendy's hamburgers tho.

[Noleafclover]

Actually I'm sure he probably does play on the server, but he obviously doesn't believe enough in what he's saying to stand by it by posting with his real forum acct ( im sure he has one that has his character name tag'd to it)

Guy's seriously, man up and grow some balls, I don't know alot of the childish drama thats happening at end game yet. I just started. But if your gonna make silly post and accuse people of things, man up and back it with your in game name, I'd rather be wrong 99% of the time and the whole server think I'm a nub, then be a pussy afraid to put my name on something I believe in.......

Yeah all this. I just tend to read over the troll accounts posts. You know what they say, don't feed the trolls.

Kinda funny though, humerox calling a troll out on being a troll, same thread he admits he made the Kutter acct to "stir shit up."*

*I actually completely agree with you on what you said hume - sorry mang, I've got an eye for irony, if I may identify eyet.

[Abacab niggah]

Kinda funny though, humerox calling a troll out on being a troll, same thread he admits he made the Kutter acct to "stir shit up."*


When Humerox posts, he proclaims my actions as deplorable and portrays this butt hurt player that was wronged by those said actions.

While on Kutter, he praises my actions and thinks "I'm not such a bad guy and should be unbanned!" in an almost dick riding sort of way.

Which is understandable because 99% of my haters do the same exact thing, in public they'll denounce me in an attempt to hop up on the bandwagon and seem cool and edgy as they high five each other in the midst of assfucking each other.

But in private they think I'm funnier than shit

[Jaxon]

Funny on the forums, but a joke on the server. We know just where to keep you.

[Humerox]

When Humerox posts, he proclaims my actions as deplorable and portrays this butt hurt player that was wronged by those said actions.

never said u were a bad guy; and i wasn't affected by yer little stunts on the server at all. i was talking about all the noobs u swamped and prolly turned away from the server altogether.

i thought u were funny as shit a long time ago, but ride yer dick? *****h u crazy.

[Hasbinbad]

*****h u crazy.
i lol'd

[Holey]

i lol'd

i lol at you wanna be dorf king!

You are a WANNABE Brell!

(much love hasbin :D)

[Dukat]

8 people banned for using what could be considered the ultimate hack and we still dont know who they are.

Someone will talk eventually.

[OngorDrakan]

your mom KSes nonw how about taht!? whuh!?

[Holey]

your mom KSes nonw how about taht!? whuh!?

And lets go off topic now.
YOUR DRUNK HOW ABOUT THAT? GO DRINK MORE SIR.