Can people seriously buy a toon for plat then get it renamed?

[Anaiyah]

Just curious if this is true, I was told that first name changes are happening via the petition forum.

I think the devs need to take a good hard look at the EC forum. Is this seriously your vision for the servers future?

[Noleafclover]

Yes. And I don't see why it has to be "prevent anonymity and aesthetic changes or allow both."

Should just put a separate sub-forum, name changes, with locked threads: X's name was changed to Y.

Would take like 15 seconds a name change to type that, or it could probably be set up to be automated.

[Zadrian]

Well, personally - I don't see an issue with selling accounts for plat, unless the main issue is people buying classes that they dont know how to play.

[rioisk]

the point is that people who make a bad name for themselves can sell their account (and the person who buys it can change their name so nobody associates the negative image with the new player) and then make a new character with all the plat. Typically classic players don't like this because they think people should be associated with their character.....and that characters shouldn't just float around, traded, etc, like they don't mean anything. That isn't classic.....in classic most people had 1 account and 1 character that they'd play a whole lot and everybody knew them as.

[Ingrum]

In classic accounts got ebayed. Names also got changed. Trading plat for a pre-leveled character is far less evil than that in my opinion. I'd rather see that than advertisements for p-lvling services. (Not that I have anything wrong with that, I just prefer to see it on the downlow.)

If someone wants to spend plat for levels, then they're going to spend plat for levels one way or another.

I agree on a name change thread or something even though it seems a bit over bearing. I doubt it would cause any harm.

[Gawain]

If someone a fef for 50 levels and wants a new start; they could change their name too..

[oldhead]

Didnt know about the name changes.

I dont like that.

Dont like selling accounts.

Def dont like the combination of the two... thought P1999 had a bit more backbone than to allow this to happen.

[Tseng]

I thought part of the fun was actually playing the game. Maybe I'm crazy.

[Teeroyoyort]

i think GMs should charge 50k plat per name change. =D will help keep the coin down.

[Zadrian]

Well, I really don't see this affecting any gameplay. The only place I see any offers for this, besides the forums, is EC - those are few and far between as it is.

[Gawain]

I'm sure if they were a douche on one char, they'll be a douche on the twink too...

[Eyry]

i think GMs should charge 50k plat per name change. =D will help keep the coin down.

/agree

[Braveguard]

Didnt know about the name changes.

I dont like that.

Dont like selling accounts.

Def dont like the combination of the two... thought P1999 had a bit more backbone than to allow this to happen.

^^^That

[Braveguard]

i think GMs should charge 50k plat per name change. =D will help keep the coin down.

^^^and if not... That

[Braveguard]

Besides, I'm pretty sure selling characters isn't "classic".

[zt004]

I thought part of the fun was actually playing the game. Maybe I'm crazy.

Agree with this.

Level 50 is overrated and, frankly, boring. If these people want to miss out on the fun part of the game it's their own issue. Let them pay for it too, while they are at it.

[Seaweedpimp]

Besides, I'm pretty sure selling characters isn't "classic".

Well you would be wrong then.

I remember when i was 14, logging onto ebay and typing in everquest and people sold lvl 30's+ all day. 50's well equipped we usually in the 300+ range.

I never bought one because well, i was 14 and i dont have 300 dollars.

Kinda glad i didnt.

Selling chars is VERY classic. Is is the right thing for this server or would i like to see it? No.

[Fearghus]

People buying and selling characters for plat doesn't effect me or my game in any way. I really don't care. Let people do what they want.

[Striiker]

I really hate the idea that name changes are being done so easily. I had mentioned this before. In classic, a name change would always get rejected unless it violated the naming policies. If the player was level 20+, a name change request was even harder to get through. The name would have to be very offensive etc. The reason for this was to prevent asshole players from slipping off a bad reputation (kill stealing, training, ninja looting, just being an ass) via a name change. If someone is going to buy a character, they should be stuck with the name and name changes in general should not happen unless it is highly warranted due to policy violations. The only other name changes which were allowed were surname changes due to a wedding between two characters or a change to add the apostrophe into Dark Elf names.

[Rogean]

Just curious if this is true, I was told that first name changes are happening via the petition forum.

I think the devs need to take a good hard look at the EC forum. Is this seriously your vision for the servers future?

So basically..

"I was told something and I'm believing it and are now telling the devs that they need to do something"

[HeallunRumblebelly]

I thought part of the fun was actually playing the game. Maybe I'm crazy.

Playing the game or paying you for powerleveling?! DUN DUN DUUUUUN! D= ..yeah, we see you out in the zones ^_^

[Thulghor]

I <3 Rogean. :-P

[Braveguard]

Well you would be wrong then.

I remember when i was 14, logging onto ebay and typing in everquest and people sold lvl 30's+ all day. 50's well equipped we usually in the 300+ range.

I never bought one because well, i was 14 and i dont have 300 dollars.

Kinda glad i didnt.

Selling chars is VERY classic. Is is the right thing for this server or would i like to see it? No.

People also used Macroquest and ShowEQ... All against the rules. This server is supposed to be as close to classic as possible so... selling or swapping accounts being permissable isn't "classic". It's allowed here but it IS a deviation from the way the classic servers were run.

[Elissa]

It wasn't allowed in classic in part at least because they couldn't make money off people selling accounts. I dont really see the problem here. If someone's a douche on a character, they sell it, the buyer changes the name, maybe the buyer isn't a douche? Isn't that good? Sure, then the seller is free to make a new character to be an ass on, but that would quickly become known if he or she were that bad (or he or she wouldn't be an ass this time around, again, good). And its not like the seller couldn't do that anyway without selling the account. Oh no! Now he has platinum too!

Just not seeing the sky-is-falling problem here.

[azeth]

Agree or Disagree -

Toon sales deter power levelers from taking your mobs.

^ agree (opinion)

[nalkin]

Part of me thinks that selling chars should be allowed, but name changes should be disallowed. I think thats the best option, because like stated above, on classic you couldn't simply /petition and have your name changed. Your name was who you were, and people would know whether to group with you or train you. IMO if you want to buy a char you should have to stick with the name it has. Also you should not be able to change your first name, because your reputation should stick with you for the entirety of your play. This is a very social/community based game and simply changing your name can really effect that.

That being said, I really don't care that much whether they disallow or allow any of this. I don't find myself in Kedge saying, man I wish people weren't changing their names right now. So, whatever happens is fine with me, but personally I think name changes shouldn't be allowed.

[Pimask]

I agree with nalkin, selling and buying chars in mmo's was always around. Banning it from this forum would just take the traffic to another forum(and the small revenue from impressions), which happens to be happening with RMT. Name changing is whatever. You can't hide douchebag, but if I had to pick a side I'm against it.

[Anaiyah]

So basically..

"I was told something and I'm believing it and are now telling the devs that they need to do something"

Right, thats exactly the tone of the post, it wasnt inquisitive at all...

And from this post Rogean, Id assume you are implying that name changes are NOT happening then? Is that the answer to the original question?

[Anaiyah]

Part of me thinks that selling chars should be allowed, but name changes should be disallowed. I think thats the best option, because like stated above, on classic you couldn't simply /petition and have your name changed. Your name was who you were, and people would know whether to group with you or train you. IMO if you want to buy a char you should have to stick with the name it has. Also you should not be able to change your first name, because your reputation should stick with you for the entirety of your play. This is a very social/community based game and simply changing your name can really effect that.

That being said, I really don't care that much whether they disallow or allow any of this. I don't find myself in Kedge saying, man I wish people weren't changing their names right now. So, whatever happens is fine with me, but personally I think name changes shouldn't be allowed.


I don't lose sleep over it either, but the thing that concerns me is the rapid growth of these exchanges. Over the past month or so it has gone from no accounts listed, to a few here and there, to Bob's toon consignment...

Just seems like a silly thing to openly allow is all.

[Braveguard]

Agree or Disagree -

Toon sales deter power levelers from taking your mobs.

^ agree (opinion)

Disagree. They PL to 50, sell the toon, PL to 50 again, sell that toon... get the picture.

[Braveguard]

I don't lose sleep over it either, but the thing that concerns me is the rapid growth of these exchanges. Over the past month or so it has gone from no accounts listed, to a few here and there, to Bob's toon consignment...

Just seems like a silly thing to openly allow is all.

Agreed.

[Rogean]

A level 50 that just asks for a name change? I don't usually allow it.

[TruLeGacY]

Isildur ---> Bowjob.

[purist]

This issue has come up a number of times, with the OP always operating under the same assumption that getting a character renamed is just handed out willy nilly by GMs enthusiastic to help you transition your newly purchased 50 Mage. Has anyone ever bothered to find out if that's how it actually works? If anyone that's actually successfully filed a petition for a voluntary name change (NOT a case where your name was offensive/reported) and had it done can chime in.

Until then, I can say that personally, I've put in name change for my Shaman to something as innocuous as an "h" added to the end of his name like 3-4 months ago and nothing happened. I'm pretty sure that nobody is going to change your name at the drop of a hat like you guys make it sound. As far as I know, name change request petitions are almost never granted without a compelling reason (i.e. your name was reported and a GM comes in and changes your name). If anyone has any other experiences, please prove me wrong.

[yaeger]

Besides, it seems like the selling of characters just adds to everything that's wrong with the server.

Level a solo class quickly to 50, farm plat/drops, twink/PL/buy an alt for main.

Why encourage more of it?

[Eyry]

I don't think name changes should be allowed, period. GMs have enough on their plates as it is, let alone have to deal with bullshit like IP exemptions (My "wife" wants to play) and raid babysitting. The only reason they should change someones name is if its offensive.

[Anaiyah]

I don't think name changes should be allowed, period. GMs have enough on their plates as it is, let alone have to deal with bullshit like IP exemptions (My "wife" wants to play) and raid babysitting. The only reason they should change someones name is if its offensive.

This would also be the classic rule. Another classic rule would be not allowing characters to be sold for platinum.

[oldhead]

i think GMs should charge 50k plat per name change. =D will help keep the coin down.
300k

[Noleafclover]

Yes. And I don't see why it has to be "prevent anonymity and aesthetic changes or allow both."

Should just put a separate sub-forum, name changes, with locked threads: X's name was changed to Y.

Would take like 15 seconds a name change to type that, or it could probably be set up to be automated.

Can someone give me a legitimate reason why this isn't a good idea? I'm probably going to have my monk and mage's names changed because they're hard as hell to say on vent and I plain don't like my monk's name, but I don't think I have a bad rep with anyone. I'd love it if I would be saved the trouble of making sure everyone could still contact me, in fact.

Why is it better to disallow name changes than to remove the anonymity?

[LizardNecro]

sounds like a good idea to me as well