Nihilum's true form

[Stasis01]

The head was cut off, now it's back.

http://i57.tinypic.com/oi7kvc.jpg

[Bazia]

recruit and contest we all know the timers

[Not Salem]

it shouldn't be a big deal as long as you guys don't become what you have been fighting for the last 3 years our guild should be fine

[Colgate]

you cut off the head of nizzar and 5 heads sprouted in its place

[Stasis01]

It reminds me of Isis and in KC I was an american fighter jet.

[Bazia]

it shouldn't be a big deal as long as you guys don't become what you have been fighting for the last 3 years our guild should be fine

Rogues perma buffed and camped in KC to kill people camping Verix

Same fight as always name just switched from Spectre to Deluxee

[heartbrand]

recruit and contest we all know the timers

You guys had the chance to have small 24 man guilds and you absorbed hokuten / eternal light, rebuffed the grandmasters plea for guild caps. Now you can recruit or quit :)

[Bazia]

Funniest part is watching Smallmee farming YT on Eternal Light guys trying to level all day.

I'm sure Azrael will have a new batch of people to contest with very soon.

[Not Salem]

Rogues perma buffed and camped in KC to kill people camping Verix

Same fight as always name just switched from Spectre to Deluxee

60 people including Tune, Vaporize, Strydur, Gongshow, HPT, Heartbrand+ mass of warmbodies, same fight as always name just switched from Nihilum to Holocaust

[Bazia]

Recruited and contesting, thanks for good advice.

[heartbrand]

Was nice seeing beastagor at the pvp today.

[Zalaerian]

Was snortlin so hard watching Holo funnel Azrael into frank, vapo, strydur and dangle logging in.

God Bless

[Drakaris]

60 people including Tune, Vaporize, Strydur, Gongshow, HPT, Heartbrand+ mass of warmbodies, same fight as always name just switched from Nihilum to Holocaust

I'm sorry, did you expect any different when your guild had 50% more players in raw numbers + level 60 + VP gear rolling around and stomping on Blaze / Holocaust, denying shit like Innoruuk / CT when they cleared the plane during sim repops?

Did you expect to gain respect when the answer to Azrael zerging with 38+ at 10am VS post Holo-absorb was 'go recruit, you know timers'?

Did you expect the server to respect you when the opposition listened to your guild leadership and your guild veterans resorted to blatant trains?

Do you expect players like me to ever respect players aligned with Azrael after being personally trained by Krakin, causing me to lose a 40-50k item and to have Azrael gloat about it?

Azrael dug itself a new yeti cave, now go lie in it for a while as the server thrives once more.

[Not Salem]

did not read

[heartbrand]

Didn't read but you replied within fifteen seconds, sounds legit

[fiegi 8.0]

^ lol'd

[Not Salem]

yaw, hence a 15 second response, you serious or dumb?

[Pudge]

I'm sorry, did you expect any different when your guild had 50% more players in raw numbers + level 60 + VP gear rolling around and stomping on Blaze / Holocaust, denying shit like Innoruuk / CT when they cleared the plane during sim repops?

Did you expect to gain respect when the answer to Azrael zerging with 38+ at 10am VS post Holo-absorb was 'go recruit, you know timers'?

Did you expect the server to respect you when the opposition listened to your guild leadership and your guild veterans resorted to blatant trains?

Do you expect players like me to ever respect players aligned with Azrael after being personally trained by Krakin, causing me to lose a 40-50k item and to have Azrael gloat about it?

Azrael dug itself a new yeti cave, now go lie in it for a while as the server thrives once more.

Wow someone feelin the hate. Been rustled real hard. But this game is all about the madness so preach on. I wish I was this immersed

[Tradesonred]

recruit and contest we all know the timers

That is fucking lols though

[Quiet]

Pudge logged in afk, stayed afk, got as many pixels as Lite and crew today. Confirmed good player.

[Barladore]

Basiah what has happened? Come back to your old pals... Don't worry, jib is gone. I know you don't like rolling around in that zerg

[Smedy]

it was a bad day in norrath, but el presidente will have his vengeance, this week or the next

[Terpuntine]

El Presidente knows the timers, tell him to recruit and compete.

[Bazia]

Azrael recruitment be going better if they were helping their feeder guild level instead of farming them for easy YT

[Farzo]

recruit and contest we all know the timers

sums this thread up good.



pras holo for dw bp and legs, can't wait to be stomping in to vp next throwing rezes/small heals out.

I might even autoattack someone in pvp.

[Stasis01]

Good thing I am an expert of The Art of War, and when you are weak you make yourself look strong - and when you are strong, you make yourself look weak.

All of the posts I've seen in the last few weeks are about proving a point to Lite, making Azrael rage, and making Azrael log off. This is like pumping Viagra into my veins.

I would love nothing more than for the Holocaust to raid uncontested with all of the Nihi players. Tune, Strydur, Colgate, Heartbrand, Drakaris - oh man shit's too good.

PS Azrael nice and tight, not many mouths to feed, will pick our targets like snipers even if you decide to zerg. Because face it pals, you ain't Nizzar.

Oh god TLDR.

[Stasis01]

Azrael - Nice and Tight.

http://i62.tinypic.com/rwl6qg.jpg

[Farzo]

u sound mad bro time to log out

[Farzo]

I just think the majority of the servers player base dont want Azrael to be top dog guild coz of the weird "cat playing wth his food" shit you guys were doing; you have to admit it thru self analyzing that your guild has more twacked out weido's then anywhere that I personally have seen on the server.

Lite played his cards veeeeerrrryyyy baaaad with all his gloating threads and tbh you as a guild should seek a new leader and have a mini-renaissance. Stop treating EL as cannon fodder and killing them yourselves when it suits, merge rap, el, slosh all in to one tag; banish sektorz coz he tarnishes the crap out of your guild name. Start doing things for the newer players instead of relying on them to join other guilds, then quit them to join you etc.

I get the whole tight knit crew thing but you have no growth because of it.

tl:dr

Azrael is a sadistic guild and that's the root problem, start to self cleanse.

[Stasis01]

The most sadistic thing we could do right now is let Holo put in the man hours to raid uncontested.

And just snipe PD's/CT's on specific dates, since I look around an Az raid and notice that everyones BIS.

[Farzo]

BIS = bored players, or rolling 3rd alt to get BIS over a new player joining the server.. again:

Start doing things for the newer players instead of relying on them to join other guilds gear up, then quit to join you etc.

I get the whole tight knit crew thing but you have no growth because of it.

[Stasis01]

Nizzar had open recruitment and gave gear to whoever joined.

They mainly just quit once they were geared.

It's an exhausting process that you guys will get to feel if you don't rip apart at the seams from having so many weirdos.

[Terpuntine]

Holo has a strong family bond.

[Bazia]

def a tite knit family guild

[Stasis01]

http://i60.tinypic.com/vo4zmq.jpg

Colgate says, "At least if I take all the warm bodies, and ally with all the ex Nihilum - I will just reform Nihilum, and my Holo guild won't be viewed as the utter failure it was."

No one can stop u pals from reforming Nihi, but let's not hide the real motives behind this God's Work/warm body alliance - staying safe from Azrael fury.

[Bazia]

Didn't see God's Work online during last CT

Where was the fury then?

[Cheesypoof]

They were playing their Holo alts?

[Silent]

I don't have a holo alt, but will fully support the decision in whichever God's Work chooses and right now thats backing Holo n friends! Also didn't Azrael absorb a bunch of ex-hokuten and shit? I know theres a lot of azrael players who AREN'T best in slot, The only ones I think mostly are bis are the inner core.

tl;dr The server will go on no matter what happens.

[Stasis01]

Nihilum split off A realised it needed Nihilum split off B.

[heartbrand]

Does that mean you'll be joining nihilum b for six months?

[Quiet]

I say 2 more repops without pixels, Azrael 24.0 folds. Lite begins to plot and beastagor pulls the puppet strings to get holo banned/disbanded

[Stasis01]

Does that mean you'll be joining nihilum b for six months?

I wish I could see the train wreck from inside the train TBH.

[heartbrand]

Not recruiting is dumb. It's one thing to say you're not going to just take any warm body and be elite, it's another to literally turn down every prospective app. Azrael is to blame for the current situation. You absorbed hokuten thereby killing the guild, shut recruitment down, and now when the tides have turned claim you won't recruit aka won't log on anymore. Lol ok? I think the real reason is the core has no interest in gearing new people, regardless of their skill or talent.

[Nocsucow]

I say 2 more repops without pixels, Azrael 24.0 folds. Lite begins to plot and beastagor pulls the puppet strings to get holo banned/disbanded

you cry way to much ...... dude kills gore with 60 players and still finds a reason to cry .. just stfu youre just annoying on these forums

[Quiet]

you cry way to much ...... dude kills gore with 60 players and still finds a reason to cry .. just stfu youre just annoying on these forums

Not positive how this ties in to anything I said. Last Gorenaire raid I attended, killed Imabeast in the middle of Azrael raid force then zoned. Only 31 present for said raid. Poster possibly too busy sucking dick to make rational conversation.

[Stasis01]

Yeah but he probably fucked two bitches right after so you lose fag.

[Quiet]

Yeah but he probably fucked two bitches right after so you lose fag.

I live an hour away from him, no bitches in his city that I would want to fuck.

[Smedy]

what kind of CITY can you live in where there's litteraly no girls you would fuck?

either u gay as fuck or africa

[heartbrand]

Or anything in Central America / Middle East other than Israel and Egypt

[Quiet]

He lives in Buffalo, NY. Depressing, bad football, Tom Brady fucks them a lot.

[Stasis01]

We all knew it was a trick question and Quiet likes men.

God.

[Quiet]

? Good one.

[dis_mornin]

I'm confused what all the complaining is about. You know the timers. Go recruit and contest

[heartbrand]

stasis on melt down

[Kergan]

The most sadistic thing we could do right now is let Holo put in the man hours to raid uncontested.

And just snipe PD's/CT's on specific dates, since I look around an Az raid and notice that everyones BIS.

Name one player in Azrael that is BiS and let us do the analysis. Even Nihilum only had a handful of true BiS people. I think Thrilla was the only caster with BiS boots for example.

It's funny how Azrael says "we don't need loot anymore" the second they get it taken away, like you guys would have stopped raided uncontested if that opportunity was still there.

Just follows a long pattern of Azrael flaring up like hemorrhoids only to be put down and relegated to trying to snipe 1 dragon a week.

[Stasis01]

Never cared when we took the mobs, don't care when they are gone. If you notice inconsistency from Az it's because it's from different people?

I do like to point out how sick someone would have to be like Tune to play next to HB after he ratted out Nizzar.

Some sick fucks around here.

[heartbrand]

It's a video game who cares? I'm not a fan of Tune as a person, he still thinks I ninjaed a trak guts and a green scale despite it being 100% false and confirmed by GM's, but as a player he's pretty helpful to everyone and low drama. I don't need to like people IRL to play with them in Norrath.

[Kergan]

Or people who treat it like a game and don't really care? People who don't treat it like someone assaulted you in r/l when it's just a video game?

You take everything way too seriously.

[Stasis01]

Tune and Nizzar shared 400 played time together over 3 years of real life time.

Are you fuckers for reals here.

[Quiet]

All factions have banded together to repel Azrael. Reasoning speaks for itself.

[Stasis01]

Some greasey jew logic going down in this thread now trying to mask the real motivations and hatred.

Not being good enough, and fearing El pollo loco, putting the same crew back on top.

Puts a smile on my face to see people so desperate and hateful.

[Malevz]

Good thread, plenty of excuses. Was waiting for the "have fun getting pixels in a 15 year old elf sim Holo, Azrael is a PvP guild, and we don't care about pixels". Other than that A+

[Quiet]

Would gladly allow tune the next 25 crowns of rile if it kept Azrael from ever seeing one again.

[Stasis01]

Nizzar couldn't, maybe Quiet can.

[Smedy]

Would gladly allow tune the next 25 crowns of rile if it kept Azrael from ever seeing one again.

let the hatred flow through youuuu

yiissss

[Quiet]

http://i.imgur.com/oaAkfVy.jpg

[krazyGlue]

pras holo .. server thriving

[Kergan]

Tune and Nizzar shared 400 played time together over 3 years of real life time.

Are you fuckers for reals here.

Two people played a video game on the same server and aren't irl best friends.

Alert the press.

[Kergan]

Some greasey jew logic going down in this thread now trying to mask the real motivations and hatred.

Not being good enough, and fearing El pollo loco, putting the same crew back on top.

Puts a smile on my face to see people so desperate and hateful.

Is it one of those insane smiles that an insane person makes whilst posting insanity?

[Stasis01]

Almost like a warm body pixel machine farming dragons regardless of time of day, and who you're with.

Yep we're on the same page, buncha sick fucks.

[Stasis01]

Is it one of those insane smiles that an insane person makes whilst posting insanity?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UrgpZ0fUixs

Couldn't say it better myself.

[Quiet]

Which targets did Azrael kill yesterday anyways?

[heartbrand]

ya dunno arguing with stasis pointless guy got the butter brain

[Kergan]

ya dunno arguing with stasis pointless guy got the butter brain

Chortled

[dis_mornin]

#recruitncontest

[Stasis01]

What's there to argue about?

[Pikrib]

http://i.imgur.com/S3PEiJH.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/SQmkO1r.jpg

[Malevz]

I love when someone rolls out the Iraqi Information Minister for threads. Shit's classic.

[Pikrib]

http://i.imgur.com/CClDsiJ.jpg

[karsten]

huh


I had no idea Yasser Arafat was friends with Morgan Freeman

funfact: Yasser Arafat's full name is Mohammed Yasser Abdel Rahman Abdel Raouf Arafat al-Qudwa

[Quiet]

http://i.imgur.com/xs3MnXW.jpg

[Pikrib]

http://images.mmorpg.com/features/6005/images/darthmaul1.jpg

[dis_mornin]

huh


I had no idea Yassir Arafat was friends with Morgan Freeman

funfact: Yassir Arafat's full name is Mohammed Yasser Abdel Rahman Abdel Raouf Arafat al-Qudwa

Just glad holo is tagged as the black guy from pulp fiction

[Nirgon]

Guilds swell recruiting at first.

30% of the croots will get bored or griefed off box by SALEM. For those that survive, I salute you.

Azrael will endure, the shit will be classic.

[Agatha]

god's work will continue to provide material and any other support holocaust needs to oust azrael, there is no room on this server for a guild that uses petition quest to remove the guild that is ahead of them.

recruit, level up, gear up, and see you on the battle field, much like what holocaust did to take azrael out.

They didnt cry about shit to the GM's. GG.

[Eslade]

god's work will continue to provide material and any other support holocaust needs to oust azrael, there is no room on this server for a guild that uses petition quest to remove the guild that is ahead of them.

recruit, level up, gear up, and see you on the battle field, much like what holocaust did to take azrael out.

They didnt cry about shit to the GM's. GG.

So many errors in this post...
Gonna chalk it up to a drug fueled, addled weekend.

[Pikrib]

there is no room on this server for a guild that uses petition quest to remove the guild that is ahead of them.


Azrael didn't remove Nihilum from the server. Holocaust's members did. Stop the drugs/tears kid.

[lite]

Azrael didn't remove Nihilum from the server. Holocaust's members did. Stop the drugs/tears kid.

when I read that... http://img.pandawhale.com/post-29155-Blink-182-WHAT-THE-FUCK-gif-Im-YEwO.gif

[heartbrand]

I proudly admit to delivering the damning evidence to Derubael that got Nizzar banned and Nihilum disbanded.

[Eslade]

I proudly admit to delivering the damning evidence to Derubael that got Nizzar banned and Nihilum disbanded.

And you are a server hero.

[krazyGlue]

I proudly admit to delivering the damning evidence to Derubael that got Nizzar banned and Nihilum disbanded.

i told lite to recruit you when u got kicked. your toxic essence would fit right into azrael.

[Nirgon]

I proudly admit to delivering the damning evidence to Derubael that got Nizzar banned and Nihilum disbanded.

Here's a team I will follow into battle.

One that ACTUALLY got rid of Nihilum!

[heartbrand]

Despite forum trolling ur one of my favs to play with. Never forget starwars time.

[Pikrib]

http://i.imgur.com/4Wy47Es.jpg

[Gnomegrown]

stasis on meltdown

time to go be a dad

[Sear]

to some ppl Everquest is like Band of Brothers

except with excessive melodrama and unemployed manchildren instead of war and soldiers and real life

pretty much the same thing tho

http://i.imgur.com/AFM7ktf.jpg

[Pikrib]

http://i.imgur.com/iPLoE5V.jpg

[Sear]

http://i.imgur.com/T8y5VoK.jpg

[heartbrand]

LOL

[Pikrib]

http://i.imgur.com/T8y5VoK.jpg

I'm stealing that for a sig.

[Sear]

just noticed the guy in the background looks like a zombie vince vaughn

[Pikrib]

too big im gonna have to resize when i get a few min

[Malevz]

Pikrib you sexy ginger beast, what time are you off work tonight?

[Pikrib]

Pikrib you sexy ginger beast, what time are you off work tonight?

Sorry bud, im already taken.













By my one true love.































Everquest.


















and flaming hot cheetos

[Nirgon]

just noticed the guy in the background looks like a zombie vince vaughn

RMT kingpins by the looks of them

[Eslade]

just noticed the guy in the background looks like a zombie vince vaughn

Looks more like Vince Vaughn sucking on a flesh colored cylindrical object.

[Kraz]

Azrael- A rich history of self implosion, join today!

[Pikrib]

I proudly admit to delivering the damning evidence to Derubael that got Nizzar banned and Nihilum disbanded.

I guess the question everyone wants answered is:
Who gave you the posts from the Nihilum officer forums? I would assume that that stuff was private officer eyes only shit. I read the RMT <wink wink> stuff, and figured only certain people would have access to those posts. Anyway the shit is old news can someone spill the beans finally?

[heartbrand]

Some of it was guild chat and posts I had been screenshotting for a while in anticipation of being booted, some of it was from a few noble souls. Does it really matter ultimately?

[Pikrib]

Some of it was guild chat and posts I had been screenshotting for a while in anticipation of being booted, some of it was from a few noble souls. Does it really matter ultimately?

If your not going to tell us can you at least give us a list of people who had access to the Nihilum officer forums?

[Kergan]

I think it was just the vet forums not officer.

[Pikrib]

I think it was just the vet forums not officer.

Did you have access to that specific forum Kergan?

[Eslade]

Did you have access to that specific forum Kergan?

http://www.medill.us/13SP-Unclass/workshops/typography/KatherineD-Typography/DarkwingDuck3.jpg

[fiegi 8.0]

hb saved the box there should be a fucking mount rushmore of checkraise, heartbrand, zibby, and tyrionn somewhere in norrath.

[Kergan]

That forum doesn't exist anymore, nor do any of the posts it once contained.

Or the website it was hosted on for that matter.

Get over it.

[Not Salem]

I think the real reason is the core has no interest in gearing new people, regardless of their skill or talent.
__________________

feels so GOOD

[Terpuntine]

Salem will you sponsor my Azrael app? If I am accepted I will teach you all my rape whistle formation.

[Gnomegrown]

kinda sad it took heartbrand to finally get rid of nizzar, what a joke staff couldn't ban him when he ruined the server for 2 years.

integrity 0

[Pudge]

He lives in Buffalo, NY. Depressing, bad football, Tom Brady fucks them a lot.

Quiet and I live in Rochester, NY. It sucks here. It's cold. And I will be moving asap (that's in 2 years...).

Anyone want to sell their city? Lived in NYC suburbs growing up, and philly for 5 years after undergrad. Kinda want philly again, but the wife wants to try something different for awhile.

Any suggestions? Someplace warm welcomed. I say Atlanta might be a good bet, but she's asian and says they're too racist. Confirm/deny?

[Quiet]

I saw Pudge once, he chased me with a large sword and threw orbs at me, kept yelling... Pumice mother fucker.

Greenville, South Carolina was very nice.

[Pikrib]

That forum doesn't exist anymore, nor do any of the posts it once contained.

Or the website it was hosted on for that matter.

Get over it.

Whats wrong Kergan can't a pal ask a question? Your correct the forums don't exist, and the posts don't exist either. But Screenshots can last forever.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/a/img904/8093/eH3ZRH.jpg

All I wanted to know was if you had access to this forum, and if you know who had access also?

[Smedy]

christ, charging plat for loots from members who basically make it possible for the guild to get loot, and where does the 1.5k plat per dkp go? SKY / HATE STONES? nightriders please

that guy made a fucking fortune of ur neckbeards and now ur mad at el presidente because u were dumb enough to work at a rate which is lower then a mexican immigration workers

shits vlassic

[Eslade]

lol, yeah deleting shit in front of apps for 2 weeks sure is going to make people want to keep raiding with you.
https://31.media.tumblr.com/35ccc0f899e1aec724338267b59a6e42/tumblr_inline_mtbrvg3WmJ1qbjc85.gif

Only 40 dollars in rmt y'all.

[Crazycloud]

hb saved the box there should be a fucking mount rushmore of checkraise, heartbrand, zibby, and tyrionn somewhere in norrath.

[Rustlemania]

christ, charging plat for loots from members who basically make it possible for the guild to get loot, and where does the 1.5k plat per dkp go? SKY / HATE STONES? nightriders please

that guy made a fucking fortune of ur neckbeards and now ur mad at el presidente because u were dumb enough to work at a rate which is lower then a mexican immigration workers

shits vlassic

You mad you didn't get more outback for your characters? I smell jelly

[Kergan]

Whats wrong Kergan can't a pal ask a question? Your correct the forums don't exist, and the posts don't exist either. But Screenshots can last forever.

All I wanted to know was if you had access to this forum, and if you know who had access also?

There was probably 100+ people with access to the vet forums. Anyone who had spent a year in Nihilum had access, including inactives.

I think that post wasn't even in the vet forums, just the general ones which means every app and <year member too.

[Mac Drettj]

Pikrib embarrassing fqer

[Kergan]

Yeah he used to be better before it became his job.

[Nirgon]

christ, charging plat for loots from members who basically make it possible for the guild to get loot

Don't play with people who use you

Some people exist to get used though

No Nihilum tag, no Azrael tag, happy beard

[Pikrib]

http://i.imgur.com/iO1rle2.jpg

[Kergan]

I don't feel used at all. Had one of the better geared shamans on the server putting in on average about 3-4 hrs a week. Did not have to pay anyone real $$$ despite popular opinion. Had like 20% raid attendance. Was treated well.

[Nirgon]

Sources suggest if you were looting top pixels this was a problem.

Hate gear and a shaman epic ain't a top pixel.

[Kergan]

VS legs, like 5-6 VP items, basically BiS outside a couple PD loots.

Sources are wrong. Thrilla is the best geared character on the emu and didn't pay a dime to anyone for his shit.

[Burgerking]

I love all these Nihilum posts, it's like watching a senile old man argue with an empty chair.

Nihilum is gone, the people arguing for Nihilum no longer even play here. They lurk the forums like incorporeal ghosts. The people still pissed off about Nihilum are too dense to even realize they've won.

Anyone thinking Holocaust is Nihilum is having an aspergers flare up, we raid when we feel like it, raid attendance is not mandatory, anyone can bow out when they feel like it. Items go to people who need them, gear is evenly distributed. The people rewarded are the ones who put the most work in and are overall more helpful to the guild as a whole.

Holocaust runs like a collection of casuals, not like a full time job. Anyone claiming we run like Nihilum is simply ignorant of how our guild operates.

You doubt...well we crootin! See for yourself.

[Eslade]

I love all these Nihilum posts, it's like watching a senile old man argue with an empty chair.

Nihilum is gone, the people arguing for Nihilum no longer even play here. They lurk the forums like incorporeal ghosts. The people still pissed off about Nihilum are too dense to even realize they've won.

Anyone thinking Holocaust is Nihilum is having an aspergers flare up, we raid when we feel like it, raid attendance is not mandatory, anyone can bow out when they feel like it. Items go to people who need them, gear is evenly distributed. The people rewarded are the ones who put the most work in and are overall more helpful to the guild as a whole.

Holocaust runs like a collection of casuals, not like a full time job. Anyone claiming we run like Nihilum is simply ignorant of how our guild operates.

You doubt...well we crootin! See for yourself.

http://img2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20130217000841/dragonball/images/c/cd/Baby-facepalm.jpg

[Pikrib]

http://i.imgur.com/dAqgHRB.jpg

[Burgerking]

http://img2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20130217000841/dragonball/images/c/cd/Baby-facepalm.jpg

Like I said ignorant, it's sad you reserve so much hate for an enemy you have zero understanding off. None of our members have been banned for training, or warned by GM's for not adhering to LNS. Our leader never went on a 72 hour corpse camping session or spent countless hours to raise faction at Azrael's guild bind. We have done nothing to go out of our way to stop Azrael from doing anything, we simply go after the mobs we need to gear our members.

Now remind yourself who the good guys are and try not to smile with disdain when you realize the hypocrisy you show allied with the team you defend.

[Crazycloud]

I love all these Nihilum posts, it's like watching a senile old man argue with an empty chair.

Nihilum is gone, the people arguing for Nihilum no longer even play here. They lurk the forums like incorporeal ghosts. The people still pissed off about Nihilum are too dense to even realize they've won.

Anyone thinking Holocaust is Nihilum is having an aspergers flare up, we raid when we feel like it, raid attendance is not mandatory, anyone can bow out when they feel like it. Items go to people who need them, gear is evenly distributed. The people rewarded are the ones who put the most work in and are overall more helpful to the guild as a whole.

Holocaust runs like a collection of casuals, not like a full time job. Anyone claiming we run like Nihilum is simply ignorant of how our guild operates.

You doubt...well we crootin! See for yourself.

he described holo perfectly

[Genedin]

http://i.imgur.com/dAqgHRB.jpg

ROFL

[Eslade]

Like I said ignorant, it's sad you reserve so much hate for an enemy you have zero understanding off. None of our members have been banned for training, or warned by GM's for not adhering to LNS. Our leader never went on a 72 hour corpse camping session or spent countless hours to raise faction at Azrael's guild bind. We have done nothing to go out of our way to stop Azrael from doing anything, we simply go after the mobs we need to gear our members.

Now remind yourself who the good guys are and try not to smile with disdain when you realize the hypocrisy you show allied with the team you defend.

I actually like a lot of people in holo. I dislike that your recruiting method went from strict to anybody with a pulse because of some trash talk.

Gonna enjoy when you have the same internal problems that Nihilum did because of multiple in guild factions and from what I understand multiple leaders.

[Nirgon]

Whatsapp chat: Hey! We get to be the new Nihilum! Run everyone off the server!
AIM chat: naw

[Malevz]

Whats wrong Kergan can't a pal ask a question? Your correct the forums don't exist, and the posts don't exist either. But Screenshots can last forever.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/a/img904/8093/eH3ZRH.jpg

All I wanted to know was if you had access to this forum, and if you know who had access also?

I'd rather just wait til everyone has loot and take the leftovers than trying to understand that post.

[Burgerking]

http://i.imgur.com/dAqgHRB.jpg

Are you sure your not Syft? in lack of a proper response or defensible actions taken on his guilds part, Syft relies on a meme, or resorts to personally bashing someone. It's a direct reflection of his immaturity and inability to socialize with others. Seems like you guys have a lot in common, I should give you his cell number.

[Eslade]

Are you sure your not Syft? in lack of a proper response or defensible actions taken on his guilds part, Syft relies on a meme, or resorts to personally bashing someone. It's a direct reflection of his immaturity and inability to socialize with others. Seems like you guys have a lot in common, I should give you his cell number.

Give it to me.

[Malevz]

I dislike that your recruiting method went from strict to anybody with a pulse because of some trash talk.

Gonna enjoy when you have the same internal problems that Nihilum did because of multiple in guild factions and from what I understand multiple leaders.

This is a 100% false, we do not require a pulse. Some of our members have a "Weekend at Bernie's" thing going on.

[Dacuk]

I actually like a lot of people in holo. I dislike that your recruiting method went from strict to anybody with a pulse because of some trash talk.

[Burgerking]

I actually like a lot of people in holo. I dislike that your recruiting method went from strict to anybody with a pulse because of some trash talk.


Yes we humbly allow entry to every one seeking membership above lvl 46. We are helpful and beneficial to new players, and don't mind putting in some extra time to gear them out. We evaluate our members based on they're own actions and performance in the guild, we do not pre-screen members with an elitist attitude denying someone who has yet to prove they're own merit on the server.

The members of our guild decide they're own lvl of involvement within the guild based on the time and effort they put into helping the guild. We do not have an inner circle with a secret handshake that excludes people that have invested allot of time to making the guild better.

[Buhbuh]

I'm glad my Nihilum pals and I could fool Stasis this long, but it seems he's found us out. Our 3 year plan in the making is revealed. Recruit and contest.

[Burgerking]

This is a 100% false, we do not require a pulse. Some of our members have a "Weekend at Bernie's" thing going on.

Holo Pre- raid prep

http://media.giphy.com/media/PhyNoifKWElu8/giphy.gif

[Eslade]

Yes we humbly allow entry to every one seeking membership above lvl 46. We are helpful and beneficial to new players, and don't mind putting in some extra time to gear them out. We evaluate our members based on they're own actions and performance in the guild, we do not pre-screen members with an elitist attitude denying someone who has yet to prove they're own merit on the server.

The members of our guild decide they're own lvl of involvement within the guild based on the time and effort they put into helping the guild. We do not have an inner circle with a secret handshake that excludes people that have invested allot of time to making the guild better.

All inclusive is fine, but not when your numbers swell to 60% of the server. At that point it's join our guild or have fun raiding 1 group content. The reason that Nihilum gets brought up all the time is because that was the tactic that they used.

[heartbrand]

ya cant believe we recruited when az was raiding VS @ 9am in the morning with 36 people

[Burgerking]

All inclusive is fine, but not when your numbers swell to 60% of the server. At that point it's join our guild or have fun raiding 1 group content. The reason that Nihilum gets brought up all the time is because that was the tactic that they used.

and yet we have made no attempts whatsoever to lock anyone out of raid content or taken a single step to lock down all raid mobs. We gave Azrael every chance possible to not arrive at this eventuality.

We were told that that we know the timer's, recruit and contest. Do you really believe that Azrael lacks the numbers to field an appropriate response to our guild's size with over seven guilds allied to them?

No they lack generosity to share the gains with any of there "lower guilds". They created they're own problem by being selfish and greedy and continue to do so

[Colgate]

All inclusive is fine, but not when your numbers swell to 60% of the server. At that point it's join our guild or have fun raiding 1 group content. The reason that Nihilum gets brought up all the time is because that was the tactic that they used.

i reached out and tried to be cool about it on 3 occasions before we mass recruited, got rejected every single time

[Gnomegrown]

Quiet and I live in Rochester, NY. It sucks here. It's cold. And I will be moving asap (that's in 2 years...).

Anyone want to sell their city? Lived in NYC suburbs growing up, and philly for 5 years after undergrad. Kinda want philly again, but the wife wants to try something different for awhile.

Any suggestions? Someplace warm welcomed. I say Atlanta might be a good bet, but she's asian and says they're too racist. Confirm/deny?

unless you are black you don't move to or go to Atlanta, want to trade with me ? im in boca and cant wait to move up to PA in a year or so.

[Kergan]

we raid when we feel like it, raid attendance is not mandatory, anyone can bow out when they feel like it. Items go to people who need them, gear is evenly distributed. The people rewarded are the ones who put the most work in and are overall more helpful to the guild as a whole.


So pretty much exactly like Nihilum.

[Eslade]

So pretty much exactly like Nihilum.

Hopefully minus the rmt. Otherwise I fear for Colgate.

[Burgerking]

So pretty much exactly like Nihilum.

Not at all, we do not have a DKP system and we would never even contemplate destroying an item before giving it to a member who needs it. Our members do not purchase items from guild bank they are freely given to those who need them.

Perhaps you should spend more time in Holocaust because you don't seem to understand how we operate.

[Kergan]

Biggest difference between Holo and Nihilum (and it is quite significant) is that it isn't a dictatorship and there are more people in leadership positions to share the load. Less snobby from the top, lack of an elitist attitude.

tbo though some of those things are what kept Nihilum on top so long, to the point I think the server became too dependent (see Derubael's post about not disbanding Nihilum after the initial RMT allegations due to fear of killing off the server).

[Malevz]

Hey what happened in Fear last night? Fell asleep early and missed it.

I should be freaking out on how this will effect my raid attendance DKP maybe? Oh no wait, small family guild. Pras Holocaust.

[Eslade]

In short, the true form of Nihilum is Colgate and Tune performing the wobbly H with the server in the middle.

[Burgerking]

Biggest difference between Holo and Nihilum (and it is quite significant) is that it isn't a dictatorship and there are more people in leadership positions to share the load. Less snobby from the top, lack of an elitist attitude.

tbo though some of those things are what kept Nihilum on top so long, to the point I think the server became too dependent (see Derubael's post about not disbanding Nihilum after the initial RMT allegations due to fear of killing off the server).

We are not Nihilum, we play Eq to have fun, it's not a full time job for us. We will never be like Nihilum, and what we are doing seems to be working just fine. You are perfectly welcome to join us on each and every raid and partake in gearing of your toons which will be awarded to you based on your lvl of guild participation.

But if you are waiting for Holocaust to become Nihilum 2.0 then I feel you will only be disappointed by our guild.

[Kergan]

Not at all, we do not have a DKP system and we would never even contemplate destroying an item before giving it to a member who needs it. Our members do not purchase items from guild bank they are freely given to those who need them.

Perhaps you should spend more time in Holocaust because you don't seem to understand how we operate.

Did not realize you were the designated Pikrib for Holo.

Nihilum didn't have a DKP system either bro. Nobody ever spent DKP, it was just attendance points. Holo uses a council (same as Nihilum) and if you don't think they are using attendance as a huge factor in loot decisions I don't know what to tell ya.

But almost everything you insinuated about Nihilum was incorrect. Attendance was not mandatory, nor was there a minimum amount of raids you had to attend. People were free to play casually (I'm evidence of this) and not looked down on because of it. Lower level players (as low as 46 for new to the server players) were tagged and allowed to raid, and unless you were a recruit who joined like 24 hrs before you'd get rotting loot. I remember Pappa getting like 4 VP weapons in his first VP raid like 48 hrs after he app'd.

Sorry man, what you're doing is revisionist history. The reality was Nihilum was 100 warm body casuals with 10-20% raid attendance being propped up by 15 neckbeards.

[Kergan]

We are not Nihilum, we play Eq to have fun, it's not a full time job for us. We will never be like Nihilum, and what we are doing seems to be working just fine. You are perfectly welcome to join us on each and every raid and partake in gearing of your toons which will be awarded to you based on your lvl of guild participation.

But if you are waiting for Holocaust to become Nihilum 2.0 then I feel you will only be disappointed by our guild.

Thanks for the invite, I need a tag on a few of my unguilded toons will you be around later to invite me to the guild?

[Stasis01]

Battle of the nobodies.

[heartbrand]

Sorry man, what you're doing is revisionist history. The reality was Nihilum was 100 warm body casuals with 10-20% raid attendance being propped up by 15 neckbeards.

pretty much why nihilum was one of the shittiest mmo guild experiences i've ever had. the neckbeards amongst us would defend the dragons and slay them for people with 10% RA who would loot items and quit on a never ending cycle while the core neckbeards had 0 upgrades to look forward to. best was when this was brought up over and over again and people like zarah and kinamaraa who had more forum posts than dkp would cry about intangible value and shit on elf sim. yaw ok.

[Stasis01]

The Nihi neckbeard crew were some sick fucks.

[Nirgon]

Kergan are you and Evil Spirit Gyno 10.0 waiting for the return of the Duke or what

ITS OVER

[Kergan]

pretty much why nihilum was one of the shittiest mmo guild experiences i've ever had. the neckbeards amongst us would defend the dragons and slay them for people with 10% RA who would loot items and quit on a never ending cycle while the core neckbeards had 0 upgrades to look forward to. best was when this was brought up over and over again and people like zarah and kinamaraa who had more forum posts than dkp would cry about intangible value and shit on elf sim. yaw ok.

Yeah I agree with that. It was a bad cycle...someone like Rallyd would complain about always having to pull VP all the time and how nobody knew what to do because we'd just sit at the entrance and afk until we got CoH'd or something. Then some new monk would try to do it, fuck up and get reamed out until he was afraid to every try again, and thus the cycle would continue.

I know some long time vets were getting really frustrated with gearing up the 10th round of new bodies while they hadn't taken a single item from a raid in a year because there was always a "main" that had priority. I think some of that was getting resolved though, at least kinda with the main switching policy. Too little too late though, once you turn off the treadmill its hard to get back on. They didn't call it the crown of retirement for nothin'.

[Burgerking]

Did not realize you were the designated Pikrib for Holo.

Nihilum didn't have a DKP system either bro. Nobody ever spent DKP, it was just attendance points. Holo uses a council (same as Nihilum) and if you don't think they are using attendance as a huge factor in loot decisions I don't know what to tell ya.

But almost everything you insinuated about Nihilum was incorrect. Attendance was not mandatory, nor was there a minimum amount of raids you had to attend. People were free to play casually (I'm evidence of this) and not looked down on because of it. Lower level players (as low as 46 for new to the server players) were tagged and allowed to raid, and unless you were a recruit who joined like 24 hrs before you'd get rotting loot. I remember Pappa getting like 4 VP weapons in his first VP raid like 48 hrs after he app'd.

Sorry man, what you're doing is revisionist history. The reality was Nihilum was 100 warm body casuals with 10-20% raid attendance being propped up by 15 neckbeards.

I'm sorry but this

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/a/img904/8093/eH3ZRH.jpg

pretty much contradicts everything you just said, and if forced to make an opinion about a guild I did not experience myself I'm more inclined to believe the guild leader than a member. I am not holocausts emissary or spokesman. What I said any member can attest to because it's just 100% true, I'm not spinning anything to paint my guild in a softer light, it's just the way things are.

You have Holocaust's TS info you could easily become a member on any toon without my help. But as a guild Holocaust is focused on the future, and you seem to be stuck in the past.

[Malevz]

i reached out and tried to be cool about it on 3 occasions before we mass recruited, got rejected every single time

In all fairness to Azrael, they were REALLY sure you couldn't put together a enough people to compete with their 35 bis chars, + eternal light + slosh + all the random untagged people they have following them + their alt army... when they rejected your reaching out.

[Kergan]

Kergan are you and Evil Spirit Gyno 10.0 waiting for the return of the Duke or what

ITS OVER

Not at all. I think what he did here was impressive though, as far as emulated EQ servers go. I didn't mind the guy and I think he gets a little too much blame for the problems caused by 75% of the people who decided to play here over the last 2 years.

That being said, his time (and the age of Nihilum) have passed. I am looking forward to seeing the shape the server takes without him controlling it, if only just to see how it changes.

My hope is Holocaust runs Azrael off the box and finds a way to amicably split into multiple competing factions. Azrael is just as much an artifact of the previous regime as Nihilum, and the box cannot be truly cleansed and allowed to grow until all weeds are plucked from the garden.

[Nirgon]

Reichstag is glistening

[Stasis01]

Colgates Holo failed without the Nihi's - makes an excuse and mass recruits to hide his failure.

AKA it's just Nihilum again.

Makes me laugh, and smile - love failure and bitterness from my opponents.

[Kergan]

I'm sorry but this

pretty much contradicts everything you just said, and if forced to make an opinion about a guild I did not experience myself I'm more inclined to believe the guild leader than a member. I am not holocausts emissary or spokesman. What I said any member can attest to because it's just 100% true, I'm not spinning anything to paint my guild in a softer light, it's just the way things are.

You have Holocaust's TS info you could easily become a member on any toon without my help. But as a guild Holocaust is focused on the future, and you seem to be stuck in the past.

That contradicts nothing I said actually. That policy was put in place so that the neckbeards putting in 5x the time as the casuals could get some drops for their second character and not be permanently stuck behind the non stop influx of new apps over time. Velious was going to be an actual DKP system, and DKP would have been spent. It would have been highly unlikely any of the neckbeards would have used their DKP on an alt item until 1+ year into the expansion. And as for the applicants getting nothing...for two weeks. Who cares? If you couldn't wait two weeks to prove you're not a Jib-like psychopath trying to spy than w/e.

As for me living in the past, as long as glaringly inaccurate and revisionist history posts are made (especially by someone who wasn't even in the guild) I'll be here to set the record straight.

[Colgate]

Colgates Holo failed without the Nihi's - makes an excuse and mass recruits to hide his failure.

AKA it's just Nihilum again.

Makes me laugh, and smile - love failure and bitterness from my opponents.

would be applicable if azrael hadn't already relegated itself to a guild that does not even contest anymore because they lost

[Malevz]

Colgates Holo failed without the Nihi's - makes an excuse and mass recruits to hide his failure.

AKA it's just Nihilum again.

Makes me laugh, and smile - love failure and bitterness from my opponents.

Yes, Colgate and 90% of the guild is mostly rags taking out Azrael + bulk of the raid mobs on the server, minus VP where very few are keyed (and still grouped up with God's Work to take down Phara Dar) may just be one of the biggest failures in the servers history.

Most of the time in teamspeak Colgate just laments his failures and tearfully tells us of how things were in the good old days.

[Kergan]

Colgates Holo failed without the Nihi's - makes an excuse and mass recruits to hide his failure.

AKA it's just Nihilum again.

Makes me laugh, and smile - love failure and bitterness from my opponents.

The only constant this server has ever seen is the failure of Azrael to hold on to the top spot for more than a few weeks at a time, and only being able to rise up when it's gift wrapped and handed to them.

Colgate and co. beat you guys within a couple weeks of trying to, not sure if you're serious or dumb.

[Stasis01]

? You win...?

[quido]

In all fairness to Azrael, they were REALLY sure you couldn't put together a enough people to compete with their 35 bis chars, + eternal light + slosh + all the random untagged people they have following them + their alt army... when they rejected your reaching out.

That's funny, I thought we'd get zerged 3 weeks sooner. I think most of us did.

[Stasis01]

Don't know why people are criticizing Az for not playing like Nihi - while you all huddle together and mass recruit any able person to try to put it back to the same situation as Nihi.

I sit back and laugh, after 3 years of Nizzar what can anyone do to the raid scene here, really. And even though Colgate's Ego will probably spin and change history for himself to feel better it really showed me how immersed this pal is.

[Colgate]

Don't know why people are criticizing Az for not playing like Nihi

yeah because strong-arming the raid scene and refusing to negotiate with other guilds while raiding uncontested with numbers far greater than any other guild is not what nizzar did at all

:rolleyes:

[Stasis01]

You guys couldn't hold your own so you bitched out and did what Nizzar did, Azrael stayed to it's word and turned away all Nihi scum.

You know what I'm talking about, let the failure sink in while you get super angry and recruit everyone to beat the big bad Azrael's that raided for a month and a half WITH MORE NUMBERS ZOMG.

[Malevz]

You guys couldn't hold your own so you bitched out and did what Nizzar did, Azrael stayed to it's word and turned away all Nihi scum.


You forgot the "at Azrael's request" part.

You act like it's already over. Just cause you're suspended it doesn't mean you have to give up. I mean there are plenty of avenues open to you, just as there were when you fought against Nihilum (Nihilum was a guild a month or two back that was flawed and eventually retired iirc):

1. Train (try to remember to use throw away chars)
2. Forumquest / lawyerquest / whinefest
3. Threads about variance and wipes
4. Blame everyone else
5. Rename your guild, blame the old leadership, even though it's the same leadership

All I'm saying is, you have plenty of options.

What about the advice you gave to Colgate? Seems to have worked.

[Burgerking]

Not at all. I think what he did here was impressive though, as far as emulated EQ servers go. I didn't mind the guy and I think he gets a little too much blame for the problems caused by 75% of the people who decided to play here over the last 2 years.

That being said, his time (and the age of Nihilum) have passed. I am looking forward to seeing the shape the server takes without him controlling it, if only just to see how it changes.

My hope is Holocaust runs Azrael off the box and finds a way to amicably split into multiple competing factions. Azrael is just as much an artifact of the previous regime as Nihilum, and the box cannot be truly cleansed and allowed to grow until all weeds are plucked from the garden.

We have absolutely no desire to run Azrael off the server and have put in zero effort to do so. We do not form raiding parties to grief them before raid time, we do not try to run them out of their guild bind.

We don't actually even seek to engage them, we just form up for certain mobs and defend against Azrael when they come to contest.

I'm also not saying anything negative about Nihilum I'm simply stating the truth, we do not run like them, and we do not want to.

[Mac Drettj]

azrael recruited 4 guilds and absorbed the entire lvl 60 pool of another

derpp

[Stasis01]

Raze I saw your app to Azrael and that you hate Holo maybe that was a private shot sry pal Lite but you're a good example of why my balls are so fucking big following Lite.

[Colgate]

azrael stayed true to its word?

funny, i'm pretty sure i remember azrael saying:
they would support server health by working with newer guilds(rejected every single one of my attempts to regulate the raid scene)
they would not recruit at all(absorbed hokuten, still advertise that they're recruiting every day only "exceptional" players)
they would never raid with more than 30(have seen 30+ at an azrael raid on numerous occasions)
i'll borrow your words, they'd "turn away all Nihi scum"(pvped/raided with twainz 2 days ago)

[Stasis01]

azrael recruited 4 guilds and absorbed the entire lvl 60 pool of another

derpp

Yeah Hokuten led by Jibeknn an Azrael member who got a Crown of Rile in Az (was basically an officer and super respected member/raid leader we all miss him).

[Mac Drettj]

stasis quitting for blue soon

inb4 he does

[Stasis01]

azrael stayed true to its word?

funny, i'm pretty sure i remember azrael saying:
they would support server health by working with newer guilds(rejected every single one of my attempts to regulate the raid scene)
they would not recruit at all(absorbed hokuten, still advertise that they're recruiting every day only "exceptional" players)
they would never raid with more than 30(have seen 30+ at an azrael raid on numerous occasions)
i'll borrow your words, they'd "turn away all Nihi scum"(pvped/raided with twainz 2 days ago)

Blah blah uh huh.

Twainz is cool hope that's true.

[Mac Drettj]

stasis shedding tears and telling other dwarf avatars that he misses them and loves them while seeking fulfilling online relationships A LA hateraid style

inb4 breakups with rocky road icecream and quitting

[Nirgon]

Trying as hard as possible to stomp out Blaze (how many Nihilum???) and Holocaust as it was forming never happened right? No mass propaganda saying Holocaust "clearly a failed startup" barely a month into things? Colgate never tried to put the brakes on a guild scumming it up?

Everyone saw what Azrael tried to do, sorry it failed.

You guys will be MUCH happier without Lite, much like how the ex-Nillies are MUCH happier without Nizzar.

[Colgate]

yaw it's true, he got blown up at the KC fight:

Cell Holocaust Twainz Karnor's Castle 0.71 October 12 2014 1:09:48 PM

[Stasis01]

Well that's all your ego needs to patch this up.

[Mac Drettj]

inb4 stasis mad dribble about unfair server and mad

mad

[Nirgon]

Being too greedy to help out new players or do anything other than celebrate that you won the server when HOLO members got rid of the Duke killed you. Too much ego to take in new members (oh the YT god no) and too selfish to do things to help new players...

I hope all the newbs you griefed grow strong on the pixel teat and grief YOU off the server so that it may prosper.

[Colgate]

no amount of faux insanity to try and make azrael look good will save them at this point; we literally tag at least 5 new people every single day and have just as many who are sub-46 asking when they can join

azrael already threw in the towel with no one contesting our CT raid last night, except for smallmee, who just zoned in and died to mobs and then gave up

[Malevz]

Raze I saw your app to Azrael and that you hate Holo maybe that was a private shot sry pal Lite but you're a good example of why my balls are so fucking big following Lite.

Never apped, I sent a message to Lite, made no secret about it. Wasn't thrilled when after 2 days off all of Blaze went to Holo. I thought Holo was a group of level 60 Nihilum VP alts, and it was going to be the same old shit.

Couldn't have been more wrong. Gongshow is chill, so are all the raid leaders. Little to no drama, teamspeak isn't a shitshow like I expected. Just a small family guild working together.

Honestly watching you and North train... I wouldn't have survived Azrael. I hate the training bullshit, I'd rather lose than have mobs do my work for me.

[Pikrib]

Did not realize you were the designated Pikrib for Holo.


Kergan was the designated Pikrib for Nihilum.



Kergan should go get some integrity before he becomes the Pikrib for Holocaust.

[Burgerking]

The only argument you ever need to make to Azrael when they cry about guild size is...

Recruit and Contest, you all know the timers.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TOrnUquxtwA

[Mac Drettj]

nb4 stasis reply

[Stasis01]

no amount of faux insanity to try and make azrael look good will save them at this point; we literally tag at least 5 new people every single day and have just as many who are sub-46 asking when they can join

azrael already threw in the towel with no one contesting our CT raid last night, except for smallmee, who just zoned in and died to mobs and then gave up

Raging about Nizzar and sick PVE paranoia/obsession - then first opportunity try to run a guild exactly like him because your own guild idea (fuck God's Work/Nihi warm bodies) failed.

You have a sickness also my friend, or really Gong or someone else just called the shots that you'd rather zerg than lose, and you have no power to stop the machine.

You could not be a hypocrite and just have no say, might be more accurate.

[Burgerking]

Raging about Nizzar and sick PVE paranoia/obsession - then first opportunity try to run a guild exactly like him because your own guild idea (fuck God's Work/Nihi warm bodies) failed.

You have a sickness also my friend, or really Gong or someone else just called the shots that you'd rather zerg than lose, and you have no power to stop the machine.

You could not be a hypocrite and just have no say, might be more accurate.

I love when someone posting on forums because they can't log on due to training ban talks of honor, truth, and integrity.

Hey Brah you know the timer's Recruit and Contest.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TOrnUquxtwA

[heartbrand]

Ya Azrael would never take people from Nilly

[Stasis01]

I prefer

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0SMqtLI1d1k&list=RD0SMqtLI1d1k

[Colgate]

Raging about Nizzar and sick PVE paranoia/obsession - then first opportunity try to run a guild exactly like him because your own guild idea (fuck God's Work/Nihi warm bodies) failed.

You have a sickness also my friend, or really Gong or someone else just called the shots that you'd rather zerg than lose, and you have no power to stop the machine.

You could not be a hypocrite and just have no say, might be more accurate.

i mean i don't care at this point, i'd rather zerg and oust the server of scumbags like lite that continue to shit things up even after nihilum was dissolved

azrael is a cancer to the server, just like nihilum was; they're just a much easier cancer to remove

[Stasis01]

What can u do to us pal, really. We're hard as fuck.

[Colgate]

well, we've already demoralized azrael from contesting cazic thule at all

soon enough the rest of the fairweather players will be gone and azrael will go back to being a group of 5-10 irrelevancies that never log off and change their goals/viewpoints based on whether they're winning or losing

[Stasis01]

So things will be back to normal again - PHEW.

[Kergan]

I love how Stasis praises Lite and what a great fellow he is whilst simultaneously making fun of ex-Nihilum neckbeards.

This is funny because Lite has the highest confirmed playtime in the history of emu projects.

Does that not amuse you?

[Colgate]

the server will then truly #thurvive with cancerlords nizzar and lite out of power

[Malevz]

then first opportunity try to run a guild exactly like him failed.


Exactly like Nihilum:

Nihilum: Paranoid about spies, very wary of everyone they invited
Holo: Fuck the spies, can't stop us

Nihilum: Raid attendance system for loot
Holo: Let them eat cake

Nihilum: Must raid for 2 months for loot
Holo: Don't let shit rot

Nizzar: yelling
Gongshow: double fisting double downs

Nihilum: MUST HAVE EVERY RAID MOB, TRAIN FAY TO IKSAR MASTER
Holo: Lets get what we can, screw the rest

Nihilum: Message board
Holo: Don't need it

Nihilum: We can't do this without Nizzar!
Holo: We can't do this without Frank Gongogeru!

Nihilum: Lets practice Velious on beta!
Holo: Lets get level 60

Nihilum: I'm going to quit if I don't get sky robe
Holo: Cloth gloves? That's 2 raw ac, fuck yes.

Other than that totally the same.

[Burgerking]

What can u do to us pal, really. We're hard as fuck.

Hard as fuck while on a timeout.

http://www.pal.ua.edu/discipline/_img/time-out.jpg

[Stasis01]

I love how Stasis praises Lite and what a great fellow he is whilst simultaneously making fun of ex-Nihilum neckbeards.

This is funny because Lite has the highest confirmed playtime in the history of emu projects.

Does that not amuse you?

Lite was at a crossroads, where he saw Nizzar's path, and he saw a different one.

Nizzar's path was opening up recruitment, taking the Twainz, the Raze's the high play time don't care with who just for pixels players.

Dealing with babies, loot drama, high playtime/organization.

Or taking the new path. Staying the same people, but not turning down the Hokuten's that helped us with the old zerg.

Proud to be Az, till they kick me.

[Burgerking]

Lite was at a crossroads, where he saw Nizzar's path, and he saw a different one.

Nizzar's path was opening up recruitment, taking the Twainz, the Raze's the high play time don't care with who just for pixels players.

Dealing with babies, loot drama, high playtime/organization.

Or taking the new path. Staying the same people, but not turning down the Hokuten's that helped us with the old zerg.

Proud to be Az, till they kick me.

http://www.pal.ua.edu/discipline/_img/time-out.jpg

[Stasis01]

I will say though.

Now that we are zerged again it might go back to the way it was where both sides just recruit, and one side wins.

But I guess he did his best staying to what we stood for.

[Kergan]

Exactly like Nihilum:

Nihilum: Paranoid about spies, very wary of everyone they invited
Holo: Fuck the spies, can't stop us

Nihilum: Must raid for 2 months for loot
Holo: Don't let shit rot

Nihilum: I'm going to quit if I don't get sky robe
Holo: Cloth gloves? That's 2 raw ac, fuck yes.


Most of them good. These three are completely false. First one, Nihilum never changed recruiting policies, didn't really care about spies. Not to say they weren't removed if found out but there weren't any Jibekn style witch hunts going on. Second one, most people had like 10 raid loots 2 months in. If you count planar gear, most people had that in their first day of raiding.

Also everyone had a sky robe so the third one can't be proven.

[Burgerking]

Exactly like Nihilum:

Nizzar: yelling
Gongshow: double fisting double downs


WTF man you know he only does that on a cheat day.

[heartbrand]

y do u guys keep getting trolled by stasis into these arguments? he works as a jail guard irl, guild hopped about 17 times on this server, is immersed to critical levels in the game, and prolly has an IQ somewhere between 60-80.

[heartbrand]

who has more quit posts than me on forums?


hint: he has posted 20x in this thread

[Burgerking]

who has more quit posts than me on forums?


hint: he has posted 20x in this thread

While on timeout

http://www.pal.ua.edu/discipline/_img/time-out.jpg

[Nirgon]

If you got 3x my posts in a thread you're off the fucking deep end

[Stasis01]

y do u guys keep getting trolled by stasis into these arguments? he works as a jail guard irl, guild hopped about 17 times on this server, is immersed to critical levels in the game, and prolly has an IQ somewhere between 60-80.

I was an honor student at my community college you piece of shit.

[Malevz]

Nizzar's path was opening up recruitment, taking the Twainz, the Raze's the high play time don't care with who just for pixels players.


We did Naggy with 12 old-world when the server pop was single digits at night, when Nihil sat waiting for clerics to log in, I was mass recruited? Not sheriff cereal.

As for pixels, you know me, don't give a shit about the guild, all about them loots. No interest in anyone but myself.

[Nirgon]

I train people in pvp you piece of shit.

[Burgerking]

I train people in pvp you piece of shit.

http://www.sawdustandembryos.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/DIY-Time-Out-Rug...-customized-and-portable-using-vinyl-as-a-stencil-SAWDUST-AND-EMBRYOS.jpg

[Stasis01]

Anyone else who posted to me won't get a response I can't keep up with all of it, nothing personal peace out.

[Burgerking]

Anyone else who posted to me won't get a response I can't keep up with all of it, nothing personal peace out.

Go enjoy your timeout with this classic tune.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YbXYZb-URds

[Pillage]

If you beg for the Generals forgiveness Stasis, he maybshow lenience.

[Eslade]

Wtf is the general?

[Malevz]

Wtf is the general?

General Gongshow. And that's a capital G to you maggot.

[Genedin]

I do not support for-profit prisons.

[Burgerking]

I do not support for-profit prisons.

while fully endorsing guilds who's go to tactic is training in the first 5 seconds of a pvp engagement.

http://img2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20131102231616/vampirediaries/images/f/f1/Phil-Thumbs-Up.gif

Thanks for adhering to higher standards.

[Eslade]

General Gongshow. And that's a capital G to you maggot.

lol Naw. If lite can't be el presidente then gongshow can't be the general.

[Buhbuh]

Did not realize you were the designated Pikrib for Holo.

Nihilum didn't have a DKP system either bro. Nobody ever spent DKP, it was just attendance points. Holo uses a council (same as Nihilum) and if you don't think they are using attendance as a huge factor in loot decisions I don't know what to tell ya.

But almost everything you insinuated about Nihilum was incorrect. Attendance was not mandatory, nor was there a minimum amount of raids you had to attend. People were free to play casually (I'm evidence of this) and not looked down on because of it. Lower level players (as low as 46 for new to the server players) were tagged and allowed to raid, and unless you were a recruit who joined like 24 hrs before you'd get rotting loot. I remember Pappa getting like 4 VP weapons in his first VP raid like 48 hrs after he app'd.

Sorry man, what you're doing is revisionist history. The reality was Nihilum was 100 warm body casuals with 10-20% raid attendance being propped up by 15 neckbeards.


I dunno pal, after that thread Spectre tried to bully you in just before we dissolved, I'm not so sure.

Nizzar was totally talking in TS about kicking you for speaking out against Spectre. They were both being really faggoty and elitist near the end there. It was just another thing that GW dudes didn't like. You were far more accurate in that thread about what was going on. Spectre was really being a tool, and Duke sided with him (and specifically mentioned your playtime as a means to discredit your posts/ input).

[Malevz]

lol Naw. If lite can't be el presidente then gongshow can't be the general.

Lite? Quit living in the past man. Lite is so 2 weeks ago.

[Burgerking]

I dunno pal, after that thread Spectre tried to bully you in just before we dissolved, I'm not so sure.

Nizzar was totally talking in TS about kicking you for speaking out against Spectre. They were both being really faggoty and elitist near the end there. It was just another thing that GW dudes didn't like. You were far more accurate in that thread about what was going on. Spectre was really being a tool, and Duke sided with him (and specifically mentioned your playtime as a means to discredit your posts/ input).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stockholm_syndrome

[Stasis01]

Even Nihi thought Kergan was a nobody? Shocked.

[Pikrib]

General Gongshow. And that's a capital G to you maggot.

http://i.imgur.com/m8nRoTy.gif

According to the chain of command General Gongshow has to lick El Presidente's boots.

[heartbrand]

Destin bein a faggot? Naw no way

[HippoNipple]

My favorite part of the box is when Azrael gets a big ego because they are able to auto attack dragons for a couple weeks before they are chased off the server into hiding again. I'm happy I have gotten to see this 4-5 times. It gets funnier every time as their leadership fails to understand how mmos work.

[Malevz]

http://i.imgur.com/m8nRoTy.gif

According to the chain of command General Gongshow has to lick El Presidente's boots.

It's so hard to disagree with that signature pic. You sexy ginger bastard.

[Dacuk]

My favorite part of the box is when Azrael gets a big ego because they are able to auto attack dragons for a couple weeks before they are chased off the server into hiding again. I'm happy I have gotten to see this 4-5 times. It gets funnier every time as their leadership fails to understand how mmos work.

yet somehow the same crew still enjoys playing with each other over a 2+ year period, always down to help each other out.

where's your close group of elf friends? nah, you been a solo monger always so wouldn't know what a team is about.

[Buhbuh]

American general Gongshow. We steal land from Mexicans and destroy their ancestors with diseases from Europe, remember?

[Pikrib]

It's so hard to disagree with that signature pic. You sexy ginger bastard.

I have my genes to thank for being a ginger.
I got this sexy physique from working out.













I work out by eating flaming hot cheetos.

That counts right?

[heartbrand]

yet somehow the same crew still enjoys playing with each other over a 2+ year period, always down to help each other out.

where's your close group of elf friends? nah, you been a solo monger always so wouldn't know what a team is about.

1) two years ago was October 2012, shortly after Kunark release, and there was no azrael whatsoever. Most of azrael core weren't even on server.

2) tons of people in azrael now have been guilded less than three months together, including yourself

Thanks

[Malevz]

1) two years ago was October 2012, shortly after Kunark release, and there was no azrael whatsoever. Most of azrael core weren't even on server.

2) tons of people in azrael now have been guilded less than three months together, including yourself

Thanks

Who can name every guild name Azrael has had, from start to finish, without missing any, and in the correct order? Does any Azrael even remember all the diff names?

[Sektor]

Destin bein a faggot? Naw no way

[Kergan]

I dunno pal, after that thread Spectre tried to bully you in just before we dissolved, I'm not so sure.

Nizzar was totally talking in TS about kicking you for speaking out against Spectre. They were both being really faggoty and elitist near the end there. It was just another thing that GW dudes didn't like. You were far more accurate in that thread about what was going on. Spectre was really being a tool, and Duke sided with him (and specifically mentioned your playtime as a means to discredit your posts/ input).

Fair enough. But I guess I don't really blame them for using that in the argument? I think I even said that. I provided less value. My point was I wasn't going to be forced into an opinion by someone even if it meant my guild removal. I wasn't getting guild removed due to low play time though.

And in another post in this thread (or another maybe) I posted that elitism was one of the biggest differences I've seen between Holo and Nihilum. That starts from the top, and without a single dictator in charge and a bunch of clowns trying to suck up to him, you can feel like if some officer is being a dick you can talk to another officer and get it straightened out. With Niz, it was the beginning and end. Not to say he didn't take peoples opinions into account, he did, but just to aid him in his decision. In the end, it was 100% his.

But that doesn't really change what I said. I didn't feel "left out" or treated shitty because of low play time. It was no secret I was on a perma shit list for my FQing, something even you guys mentioned when Holo first formed (i.e. tone it down or you can't join). Plenty of other people without my big mouth got along just fine and would have continued to do so. On at least 3 occasions, Vapo asked me if I'd pass on loot so someone who was new and hadn't got anything yet could have it (and I said yes all 3). Tune awarded loot to people who had never got shit to a fault, passing on people more deserving. I think this view of Nihilum and its leadership as these pixel hungry neckbeards keeping everything to RMT or for their alts is annoying though. Those dudes got off on pixel showering other dudes.

Elitist jerks? Sure, most the time - and especially at raids. But enforcing some neckbeard only loot rule, or any other attendance policy? Naw. Nihilum was just as loose with attendance as Holo and you know it man.

I am going to just stop talking about it though. People will always have their viewpoint. I respect yours though which is why I took the time to drop this TLDR. Holo is doing great things.

[Kergan]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stockholm_syndrome

I think you should read the link you posted and understand why it makes no sense that you posted it in the first place.