View Full Version : How am i a TMO veteran?
Shinko
11-04-2014, 10:47 PM
CHest... 29:46 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-dWWLDMLwXM&list=UUno2Zs93i06USAVMFF1NLMA
Tongpow
11-04-2014, 11:01 PM
tmo scum
Lazie
11-04-2014, 11:09 PM
I dunno. Wish I had an invite to that stream. Would have been fun.
HeallunRumblebelly
11-04-2014, 11:11 PM
This January makes a year iirc. These colors don't run.
SyanideGas
11-04-2014, 11:12 PM
Chest said you were a TMO veteran, must be a TMO veteran. Clearest logic ever man
Anichek
11-04-2014, 11:13 PM
You are also a VD veteran, a BDA veteran, an FE veteran.....and a veteran of hybrid transportation.
Shinko
11-04-2014, 11:17 PM
+ peacepipe and Guild Shinko
Kushie
11-04-2014, 11:17 PM
herpes veteran
Pokesan
11-04-2014, 11:21 PM
echo chambers are p neat good thread
Anichek
11-04-2014, 11:22 PM
+ peacepipe and Guild Shinko
truth
you still have Shinkoguild tag on an alt somewhere? gotta save that.
Shinko
11-04-2014, 11:26 PM
yeah,
khanable
11-04-2014, 11:29 PM
yea,,,?
Nukehard
11-04-2014, 11:30 PM
I lolled irl
HeallunRumblebelly
11-04-2014, 11:32 PM
echo chambers are p neat good thread
Too many people in here to get a good echo going. You're looking for red99.
Nocsucow
11-04-2014, 11:32 PM
lol shinko is awesome
Lazie
11-04-2014, 11:41 PM
I listened to Chest's split server idea. He should know people would join the split rotation server and form a hardcore guild there to avoid competing with TMO/IB. Then you won't have a rotation at all. You would still need a fix that makes all types of players happy.
arsenalpow
11-04-2014, 11:46 PM
I listened to Chest's split server idea. He should know people would join the split rotation server and form a hardcore guild there to avoid competing with TMO/IB. Then you won't have a rotation at all. You would still need a fix that makes all types of players happy.
Why are you so ignorant? The point of the split server was to have a raid scene in the same image as the class R rotation. Not rotating wouldn't be an option.
Pokesan
11-04-2014, 11:49 PM
I don't think C/R will ever get along enough for it to not a huge problem for the staff
This isn't a condemnation of either side, but would you not both be happier if you didn't have to interact with the other side at all?
Only obstacle remaining is the server names. I say each side gets to name the other. One final battle to achieve forumquest victory!
Lazie
11-04-2014, 11:51 PM
Why are you so ignorant? The point of the split server was to have a raid scene in the same image as the class R rotation. Not rotating wouldn't be an option.
Nice. Someone uses common sense and you call them ignorant because you have none to apply. You still can't control everyone Chest. You move all Casual guilds to one server another hardcore guild will spring up there and compete for the mobs. No EQ server had a GM enforced rotation in classic. You aren't going to stop in this day and age Hardcore guilds from springing up. If you split the servers the new Hardcore guild to spring up will still choose what they think is the easiest target.
Tongpow
11-04-2014, 11:51 PM
lol mandatory rotation, gl with that
wtb Doljo 3.0 racing for R mobs
indiscriminate_hater
11-04-2014, 11:52 PM
you hit the weight minimum
Pokesan
11-04-2014, 11:56 PM
Nice. Someone uses common sense and you call them ignorant because you have none to apply. You still can't control everyone Chest. You move all Casual guilds to one server another hardcore guild will spring up there and compete for the mobs. No EQ server had a GM enforced rotation in classic. You aren't going to stop in this day and age Hardcore guilds from springing up. If you split the servers the new Hardcore guild to spring up will still choose what they think is the easiest target.
uh the staff could definitely create a rotation server to separate the normals from big gay babies such as yourself and your guild
just saiyan
Ella`Ella
11-04-2014, 11:56 PM
This was the Skype Stream that Chest reneged on his deal to do with me for charity for children...Some white knight.
Lazie
11-04-2014, 11:59 PM
uh the staff could definitely create a rotation server to separate the normals from big gay babies such as yourself and your guild
just saiyan
:rolleyes:
The staff has said repeatedly they would never enforce a rotation. You guys should literally listen to what the staff tells you guys repeatedly and try to make changes that everyone can agree to. Cucumbers laid down the best argument I heard in that stream and he spoke less than 5 minutes in the entire stream.
Lazie
11-05-2014, 12:11 AM
TMO would not exist if they didn't have anyone to hoard pixels over or grief in some way or have doljinor members to RMT to.
Show where we are hoarding anything over anyone ?? I want to see everyone participate more. I want to see a system that gets more people involved. Not one that is just a patch that only benefit's larger guilds or a half idea like Chest's that will never work long term.
Pokesan
11-05-2014, 12:12 AM
I think staff would be tickled pink if they didn't have to deal with C/R conflicts on a weekly/daily basis.
Deru and Sirkdawg are overworked and they are volunteers. Not to mention the subsidiary staff who take the punishment but refrain from commenting.
What's the harm in separating the sides? One server would require almost no policing and the other would be a more pure form of the "competition" you claim to seek.
Uuruk
11-05-2014, 12:12 AM
Sounds like Chest is tired of Sirken's shitshow that blue has become.
Tasslehofp99
11-05-2014, 12:13 AM
wow chest sounded pretty pissed off
Magnar
11-05-2014, 12:26 AM
I'm only partway through this stream...but why keep trying to push the point that if guilds aren't in VP they don't need to worry about the IB/TMO playstyle, when class R is supposed to be a jumpoff point to bring guilds into class C, at which point they WILL have to deal with the shitty endgame raidscene?
Serith
11-05-2014, 12:36 AM
Show where we are hoarding anything over anyone ??
Lazie makes a good point. You have to actually be getting pixels to hoard them. http://s23.postimg.org/m7qkyccp3/avatar_1_1400727124.png
Lazie
11-05-2014, 12:50 AM
I'm only partway through this stream...but why keep trying to push the point that if guilds aren't in VP they don't need to worry about the IB/TMO playstyle, when class R is supposed to be a jumpoff point to bring guilds into class C, at which point they WILL have to deal with the shitty endgame raidscene?
There are some issues that arise in Class C that are handled pretty easily between the 2 guilds. There is very little trouble that occurs outside of FFA for either side. FFA is what needs to be fixed. Every issue that has arisen from FFA has to do with Mages getting an FTE message because they were too close to the spawn. IB Mage got an FTE message before, TMO mage seems to have gotten one this past weekend, Taken pulled one of those 2 FTE messages and killed it. Everyone has made mistakes is what I am getting at. No one has clean hands.
IF FFA had the same foot races as Class C with a few rules in place and a lower variance it would fix 90% of the problems and make it more enjoyable. Make FFA what it was intended to be. A place to compete and learn how the Class C guilds do things. It makes it that much easier for the guilds to move up while also making it accessible to smaller guilds with less resources. It would hopefully get rid of some of the hard feelings when other guilds realize the mistakes made with mage petition is basically what everyone is arguing about right now.
Servellious
11-05-2014, 12:52 AM
Someone find me the part where sirken says nerds gonna nerd people were laughing about that in TS today but I can't listen to 2 hours of crying
Lazie
11-05-2014, 01:02 AM
Lazie makes a good point. You have to actually be getting pixels to hoard them. http://s23.postimg.org/m7qkyccp3/avatar_1_1400727124.png
:rolleyes:
Ask who is winning the most PD's lately. We don't have a strong AM presence right now (Recruiting more Euros!) and it cost us this weekend when Druushk,Hoshkar, and Naggy all spawned in the morning. We took a shot at Hoshkar with basically 27 people (3 of our 32 were pullers 1 wiz and 1 rogue died to a racnar before the engage). 5 of those 27 weren't pre-buffed correctly and died early in the fight. We got him to 27% which was probably entertaining for anyone who hates us to watch. I say Kudos to IB. They have the only true around the clock raid force right now. We are doing fine with what we have.
Anichek
11-05-2014, 01:16 AM
Someone find me the part where sirken says nerds gonna nerd people were laughing about that in TS today but I can't listen to 2 hours of crying
If i remember correctly it's about 1/2 way through
IF FFA had the same foot races as Class C with a few rules in place and a lower variance it would fix 90% of the problems and make it more enjoyable. Make FFA what it was intended to be. A place to compete and learn how the Class C guilds do things. It makes it that much easier for the guilds to move up while also making it accessible to smaller guilds with less resources. It would hopefully get rid of some of the hard feelings when other guilds realize the mistakes made with mage petition is basically what everyone is arguing about right now.
If possible, someone should push for this^
Reducing the timer on spawns an setting up race rules would be great for FFA.
Yes it would be more "poopsocky" but ALL guilds can attend when they don't have to "sit 16 hours" as Chest kept mentioning. With FTE races, you could be the next guild hero if you score FTE over IB - TMO and get the kill.
Food for thought.
an LOL @ "Shinko the veteran TMO." bringing FE back to pillage class R.
arsenalpow
11-05-2014, 07:30 AM
fyi, when talking about BDA the other day, Shinko did have some nice things to say. Unprovoked, Shinko and a couple other former bda guildys said
Shinko: Chest is a really good player
and i think he said Anthrax was too. But unprovoked, out of no where, speaking plainly to everyone, when talking about their days in BDA, he said Chest was a really good player
I'm pretty sure any former members of BDA would think that, people can dislike me for being outspoken but I'm pretty sure they can at least respect my ability and passion for what I believe in. Shinko was good as well, when he's locked in he handled a pile of different things and he was almost always there to help kill something. The problem with Shinko is that he turns into a terrorist when he's bored/disgruntled.
Tasslehofp99
11-05-2014, 07:38 AM
The GREAT THING BOUT Shinko is that he turns into a terrorist when he's bored/disgruntled.
FTFY
Ravager
11-05-2014, 07:46 AM
I bet C and the GMs would change their mind about competition on this server if two or three guilds were added to that class. Trouble is, they already have all the players that want to play like that and packed them into two guilds. Now if guild size limits were imposed and splits had to be made, it'd be interesting to hear their rhetoric when it's four or five guild perpetually petitioning. What if there were six or seven class C guilds? Dragon loot would be deleted weekly. You guys really don't want the system to work the way it was meant to.
Alarti0001
11-05-2014, 09:27 AM
This is a great stream.... Chest shows a complete inability to think logically. Its both sad and hilarious.
TMO would not exist if they didn't have anyone to hoard pixels over or grief in some way or have doljinor members to RMT to.
Scarcity makes things valuable, and causes people to want things. Obtaining those things releases endorphines in the brain. When you place insurmountable barriers (rules) that drastically limits access to said things; it causes frustration, lowering the level of said endorphines.
I like playing games like EQ, because it is a sandbox with scarcity. WOW circumvented this with instances... I didn't like WOW.
I need you, Metallikus, to feel better about myself.
Dolic
zanderklocke
11-05-2014, 11:13 AM
Scarcity makes things valuable, and causes people to want things. Obtaining those things releases endorphines in the brain. When you place insurmountable barriers (rules) that drastically limits access to said things; it causes frustration, lowering the level of said endorphines.
I like playing games like EQ, because it is a sandbox with scarcity. WOW circumvented this with instances... I didn't like WOW.
I need you, Metallikus, to feel better about myself.
Dolic
I think most people in Class R prefer the challenge of beating the programmed raid mob. EQ isn't really a good place to do this since WoW can provide much more difficult instanced content that is a challenge in terms of hard-coded game content. Hardly any mobs in EQ are challenging if you throw more people at them, but Class R wants to play here because of the nostalgia and other game mechanics.
Class C on the other hand enjoys the challenge of beating out other players in the process of beating the hard-coded content. EQ is good at providing this sort of challenge in the sense that there are world spawns and no instances. However, it's also pretty terrible at providing this challenge on the blue server because there really isn't much way to compete with each other aside from Olympic time differences of pressing the attack key on a raid target or having players log on.
Basically, because EQ is such an old game, raiding will always suck for everyone on this server because the mechanics of a MMO just weren't that well thought out in 1999-2001. However, we'll all continue to shit on each other back and forth for that endorphin high of scarce pixels.
If I had to guess, the winning of Class C mobs and loot is probably a lot more endorphin satisfying since the human brain releases more endorphins when rewards come at different unexpected intervals as opposed to a routine like Class R.
TLDR: EQ is great and terrible and we'll all keep playing regardless of poo sock-flinging.
Ravager
11-05-2014, 11:19 AM
I need you, Metallikus, to feel better about myself.
Dolic
Kind of a pathetic sentiment if true.
Hitpoint
11-05-2014, 11:23 AM
Kind of a pathetic sentiment if true.
I think Metallikus makes everyone feel better about themselves.
Kind of a pathetic sentiment if true.
Agreed. Being playful when I said I "needed" him.
Also agree with Zander. Game is too easy right now, even with competition. I've started to play more on red actually--all these rules are killing me.
However, i do think that velious could create some challenge, with harder content along with the current competition.
Dolic
HeallunRumblebelly
11-05-2014, 11:55 AM
I'm pretty sure any former members of BDA would think that, people can dislike me for being outspoken but I'm pretty sure they can at least respect my ability and passion for what I believe in. Shinko was good as well, when he's locked in he handled a pile of different things and he was almost always there to help kill something. The problem with Shinko is that he turns into a terrorist when he's bored/disgruntled.
as someone who bore witness to the great shinko massacre outside kc, I have to agree he sometimes makes bad decisions when bored/disgruntled.
Magnar
11-05-2014, 12:08 PM
I bet C and the GMs would change their mind about competition on this server if two or three guilds were added to that class. Trouble is, they already have all the players that want to play like that and packed them into two guilds. Now if guild size limits were imposed and splits had to be made, it'd be interesting to hear their rhetoric when it's four or five guild perpetually petitioning. What if there were six or seven class C guilds? Dragon loot would be deleted weekly. You guys really don't want the system to work the way it was meant to.
If guild size limits were imposed then they would just be raiding together under a different tag. IB/TMO would have all of the choice members they want under the official tags, everyone else would be left to the secondary tag. They'd cooperatively raid for a few weeks until the secondary tagged people realized they were getting shafted and couldn't actually hack it in C class without the choice members from the other half, get dropped down to R, and the whole thing becomes an even bigger clusterfuck because the former C class mentality gets shoved down into the R class raid scene.
zanderklocke
11-05-2014, 01:00 PM
Also agree with Zander.
Also agree with Zander.
Also agree with Zander.
http://weknowmemes.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/did-we-just-become-best-friends-yep.gif
Nirgon
11-05-2014, 02:01 PM
Start with Raev on red
Ella`Ella
11-05-2014, 02:01 PM
There only needs to be one guild in Class-C. Merge TMO and IB and the members can constantly compete against their own performance - like golf.
Ravager
11-05-2014, 02:25 PM
If guild size limits were imposed then they would just be raiding together under a different tag. IB/TMO would have all of the choice members they want under the official tags, everyone else would be left to the secondary tag. They'd cooperatively raid for a few weeks until the secondary tagged people realized they were getting shafted and couldn't actually hack it in C class without the choice members from the other half, get dropped down to R, and the whole thing becomes an even bigger clusterfuck because the former C class mentality gets shoved down into the R class raid scene.
Which is exactly why the system they put in place will never work as intended. It took less than a few months of Class C before 3 guilds turned into 2 in a merger. If a class R guild stepped up to C, there might be some competition for a couple months, but there will be a ton of clusterfuckery in the process, many, many petitions and bullshit and in the end the new guild will merge with whichever it despises least, TMO or IB. Class C playstyle can't support more than two guilds and those are the only two guilds that can survive that atmosphere, since there's no way another guild could get established when going against 2 guilds who had 3 years head start.
Bazia
11-05-2014, 02:45 PM
more and more guilds getting in on rotation
pixels getting kinda thin
need bigger supply
Phats
11-05-2014, 02:49 PM
There only needs to be one guild in Class-C. Merge TMO and IB and the members can constantly compete against their own performance - like golf.
IB rejected our(TMO) attempt to merge with them in late 2010 and succeeded in dominating Kunark. Attaining the vast majority of Kunark server firsts. IB rejected FE earlier this year and we in turn merged with the toxic cess pool of what is FE. IB is dominating us now (unless you are Lazie who thinks last week we did not kill the mobs we do not prioritize, and this week it is because we do not have a strong AM presence).
If you actually play golf, your analogy is awful. When I play golf I schedule my play and I do not bring 50 people.
Ella`Ella
11-05-2014, 02:55 PM
If you actually play golf, your analogy is awful. When I play golf I schedule my play and I do not bring 50 people.
Neither does TMO - we're doing more with less. As opposed to the IB zerg.
Phats
11-05-2014, 03:19 PM
Neither does TMO - we're doing more with less. As opposed to the IB zerg.
Please do not turn into Lazie and lie about everything. We killed one mob in VP this weekend. That mob was PD(if you only kill one each week, its the one to kill). We had over 55+ members online for the kill. We killed zero mobs outside VP this weekend, unless you count the repop where we were guarenteed two kills because of having more than 4 class C mobs in window during the repop. Currently we are the welfare guild of Class C. Getting mobs spoon fed to us on repops.
The toxic nature of the leadership you brought to TMO is what has caused our rapid downfall. If you would leave the guild, TMO could be great again. Why did you not create the new guild you were working so hard on a month ago?
We are doing less with less and less each week.
#WINNING
haksum
11-05-2014, 03:23 PM
The toxic nature of the leadership you brought to TMO is what has caused our rapid downfall. If you would leave the guild, TMO could be great again. Why did you not create the new guild you were working so hard on a month ago?
We are doing less with less and less each week.
Sick burn. Tell us more.
Ella`Ella
11-05-2014, 03:28 PM
Please do not turn into Lazie and lie about everything. We killed one mob in VP this weekend. That mob was PD(if you only kill one each week, its the one to kill). We had over 55+ members online for the kill. We killed zero mobs outside VP this weekend, unless you count the repop where we were guarenteed two kills because of having more than 4 class C mobs in window during the repop. Currently we are the welfare guild of Class C. Getting mobs spoon fed to us on repops.
The toxic nature of the leadership you brought to TMO is what has caused our rapid downfall. If you would leave the guild, TMO could be great again. Why did you not create the new guild you were working so hard on a month ago?
We are doing less with less and less each week.
#WINNING
The 'cadence' in your tone is so 'scum'y!
Man0warr
11-05-2014, 03:32 PM
TMO, doing less with less.
Aadill
11-05-2014, 03:36 PM
Hey Swarws
Anichek
11-05-2014, 03:38 PM
Please do not turn into Lazie and lie about everything. We killed one mob in VP this weekend. That mob was PD(if you only kill one each week, its the one to kill). We had over 55+ members online for the kill. We killed zero mobs outside VP this weekend, unless you count the repop where we were guarenteed two kills because of having more than 4 class C mobs in window during the repop. Currently we are the welfare guild of Class C. Getting mobs spoon fed to us on repops.
The toxic nature of the leadership you brought to TMO is what has caused our rapid downfall. If you would leave the guild, TMO could be great again. Why did you not create the new guild you were working so hard on a month ago?
We are doing less with less and less each week.
#WINNING
http://s3-ec.buzzfed.com/static/2013-11/enhanced/webdr02/26/16/anigif_enhanced-buzz-29481-1385501682-17.gif
TMBLOW
11-05-2014, 03:40 PM
Please do not turn into Lazie and lie about everything. We killed one mob in VP this weekend. That mob was PD(if you only kill one each week, its the one to kill). We had over 55+ members online for the kill. We killed zero mobs outside VP this weekend, unless you count the repop where we were guarenteed two kills because of having more than 4 class C mobs in window during the repop. Currently we are the welfare guild of Class C. Getting mobs spoon fed to us on repops.
The toxic nature of the leadership you brought to TMO is what has caused our rapid downfall. If you would leave the guild, TMO could be great again. Why did you not create the new guild you were working so hard on a month ago?
We are doing less with less and less each week.
#WINNING
man...
this guy is like my RnF hero.
Would you sign my anon-troll account? I would be honored
sending friend request.....
Anichek
11-05-2014, 03:40 PM
Neither does TMO - we're doing more with less. As opposed to the IB zerg.
Chest says:
http://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--lasdmTi0--/c_fit,fl_progressive,q_80,w_320/774060085921980562.gif
Alarti0001
11-05-2014, 07:35 PM
IB rejected our(TMO) attempt to merge with them in late 2010 and succeeded in dominating Kunark. Attaining the vast majority of Kunark server firsts. IB rejected FE earlier this year and we in turn merged with the toxic cess pool of what is FE. IB is dominating us now (unless you are Lazie who thinks last week we did not kill the mobs we do not prioritize, and this week it is because we do not have a strong AM presence).
Except IB tried to merge with us. Approached us but demanded a name change.. wasn;t gonna happen. Then TMO merged with DA and succeeded in driving IB off the server of course RMT, and SEQ scandal helped. Facts!
Basically IB does well in garbage time after the server has driven away almost every sane player.
quido
11-05-2014, 07:38 PM
come try red
dankzilla
11-05-2014, 07:56 PM
Borf has move to da red server. Meez spirit leave da offer body an entur da body of a Homer wizard. Meez has lots fun try an zap sum frundz wit meez firyur majiks. Its lots of fhnz and Borf tink dat everywun shuld try red. Bring yooz frunds and barsh doze DAT yooz fun like.
Shinko
11-05-2014, 09:42 PM
Except IB tried to merge with us. Approached us but demanded a name change.. wasn;t gonna happen. Then TMO merged with DA and succeeded in driving IB off the server of course RMT, and SEQ scandal helped. Facts!
Basically IB does well in garbage time after the server has driven away almost every sane player.
you saying i r not sane?
Lazie
11-06-2014, 12:17 AM
This Phats guy really is desperate for some attention.
Prismaticshop
11-06-2014, 12:25 AM
Please do not turn into Lazie and lie about everything. We killed one mob in VP this weekend. That mob was PD(if you only kill one each week, its the one to kill). We had over 55+ members online for the kill. We killed zero mobs outside VP this weekend, unless you count the repop where we were guarenteed two kills because of having more than 4 class C mobs in window during the repop. Currently we are the welfare guild of Class C. Getting mobs spoon fed to us on repops.
The toxic nature of the leadership you brought to TMO is what has caused our rapid downfall. If you would leave the guild, TMO could be great again. Why did you not create the new guild you were working so hard on a month ago?
We are doing less with less and less each week.
#WINNING
Well to be honest, a month ago Hokushin was so fed with up by Getsome that he wanted to leave us and take the entire VP FTE crew to leave for TMO, asking them for a name change which they refused...
What would have happened if that went down ? Getsome can merely lead sky raids, Hoku is the one that gets us pixels.
Lazie
11-06-2014, 12:40 AM
Well to be honest, a month ago Hokushin was so fed with up by Getsome that he wanted to leave us and take the entire VP FTE crew to leave for TMO, asking them for a name change which they refused...
What would have happened if that went down ? Getsome can merely lead sky raids, Hoku is the one that gets us pixels.
Meh. I'm having more fun now when I am around to raid with low numbers than I was when we had 45 for every engage. It's more of a challenge. I mean we all know 20 or more raiders will be back when velious gets closer to release and we are recruiting strongly right now (39 apps last time I looked). It's fun teaching and close engages are funner overall. Phats can spin whatever he likes. We know what our targets are and we are getting plenty of them right now.
Jfertal
11-06-2014, 01:35 AM
you saying i r not sane?
she wore the shoe after.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_6p27y0wj50
Jfertal
11-06-2014, 01:36 AM
So can i just post my video to all your guild apps? fuck a pre req.
Phats
11-06-2014, 10:08 AM
Well to be honest, a month ago Hokushin was so fed with up by Getsome that he wanted to leave us and take the entire VP FTE crew to leave for TMO, asking them for a name change which they refused...
What would have happened if that went down ? Getsome can merely lead sky raids, Hoku is the one that gets us pixels.
Cecily is that what you were told? Do you believe everything we were told? Do you know what really went down? Are you a fucking idiot?
http://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?p=1528652#post1528652
http://i.imgur.com/omabTql.png (http://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?p=1528652#post1528652)
http://i.imgur.com/vVUb4WZ.png
http://i.imgur.com/FLbPwzG.png
http://i.imgur.com/bkV0YOP.jpg
#WINNING
radditsu
11-06-2014, 01:12 PM
The fact is that RNF sucks so bad since the C/R stuff.
Forum Ruiners
central scrutinizer
11-06-2014, 01:39 PM
Nice. Someone uses common sense and you call them ignorant because you have none to apply. You still can't control everyone Chest. You move all Casual guilds to one server another hardcore guild will spring up there and compete for the mobs. No EQ server had a GM enforced rotation in classic. You aren't going to stop in this day and age Hardcore guilds from springing up. If you split the servers the new Hardcore guild to spring up will still choose what they think is the easiest target.
But if it had no account selling ect from the get go, it would be a vastly different scene. The "hardcore" (lol?) guilds of p99 would not have nearly the same impact without being able to accrue legions of alts beyond actually rolling and gearing them.
Hell just a clean box with no gm enforced anything, and no account selling for years on end would be radically different then p99. That's something everybody should like/want.
Folks might have to compete rather then just hedging against actual racing as much as possible.
Might even actually resemble classic.
If you *actually like competition, you should be working with the guy on this.
*obviously this is tongue and cheek since red is a barren wasteland.
low numbers . . . . 39 apps last time I looked
Riiight.
Phats is a great troll, always fun to read
Ashkari
11-06-2014, 02:01 PM
Except IB tried to merge with us. Approached us but demanded a name change.. wasn;t gonna happen. Then TMO merged with DA and succeeded in driving IB off the server of course RMT, and SEQ scandal helped. Facts!
Basically IB does well in garbage time after the server has driven away almost every sane player.
So, the guild with 90% of the server firsts is the 'garbage time' guild, and the guild who killed Trakanon 6 months after Kunark was released are the trailblazers?
You don't need to respond to this, it's a rhetorical question. I'm sure your itching to sound like the Architect of the Matrix fucked a high school debate team alternate, but let this one ride.
inb4 a response including the words 'prove' 'it' and 'logic.
Alarti0001
11-06-2014, 05:51 PM
So, the guild with 90% of the server firsts is the 'garbage time' guild, and the guild who killed Trakanon 6 months after Kunark was released are the trailblazers?
You don't need to respond to this, it's a rhetorical question. I'm sure your itching to sound like the Architect of the Matrix fucked a high school debate team alternate, but let this one ride.
inb4 a response including the words 'prove' 'it' and 'logic.
So from your post it seems you think that Current IB is the same as Past IB? Do you also think current TMO is the same as Past TMO?
Were you around for those server firsts? Did you realize many of them were obtained with GM intervention and exploit methods? Charming Faeries in PoSky, Hobby CH's, etc.
Even if you ignore that you need to look at the competition of that era (if you want to appear to be logical).
IB got alot of server firsts against relatively no competition. Divinity and Transcendence were considered competition back then(lol). IB consistently just absorbed their competition, and really anyone else they could, rather than compete with them. There wasn't variance and getting kills consisted of being the first guild to start a poopsock (first with 15 on spawn rule).
IB had some competition in Kunark with Ascension and its various forms but they never had reliable leadership to compete fully. Until TMO and we all know how that turned out. TMO won, utterly dominated IB in VP, and drove IB to commit mass RMT and run to Wow emu's and EQMac.
Will they get server firsts in Velious? Probably, mostly because most of TMO's hard players and leaders have long lost interest in this server or joined IB(LOL Zeelot, DD). We can't even get beta raid going anymore haha.
Heh most of the play makers in IB right now are TMO born and bred anyways, Keg, Snackies, tortue, etc.
But in summary, if how do you define who owns server firsts. Especially when 99% of the people who got those firsts don't even play anymore.
Clark
11-06-2014, 06:04 PM
Why are you so ignorant? The point of the split server was to have a raid scene in the same image as the class R rotation. Not rotating wouldn't be an option.
http://i.imgur.com/FOhh4qR.jpg
Nlaar
11-06-2014, 07:40 PM
TMO won, utterly dominated IB in VP, and their pet GM Amelinda drove IB to commit mass RMT and run to Wow emu's and EQMac.
Whoops, fixed that for you.
Alarti0001
11-06-2014, 08:27 PM
Whoops, fixed that for you.
Did Amelinda also cause them to completely fail in VP? Or to have a large group hit for SEQ? IB just has/had a really really hard time owning up to their misdeeds. They always need a scapegoat.
Alarti0001
11-06-2014, 08:28 PM
Whoops, fixed that for you.
Further note.. was it TMO's pet GM? Considering the 2 parties profiting from the RMT were IB players and Amelinda. Food for thought(like you can think).
HeallunRumblebelly
11-06-2014, 08:29 PM
Whoops, fixed that for you.
Box corrupt on all sides wipe it clean 2014 bush towers.
kotton05
11-06-2014, 08:37 PM
come try red
This
Lazie
11-06-2014, 08:44 PM
Riiight.
Phats is a great troll, always fun to read
They aren't tagged apps ya moron. There is a process that goes from someone putting in an app to getting guild tagged and starting their app process. A lot of those will never even make it to being tagged.
Servellious
11-06-2014, 09:32 PM
They aren't tagged apps ya moron. There is a process that goes from someone putting in an app to getting guild tagged and starting their app process. A lot of those will never even make it to being tagged.
Wrong rogues wizards warriors clerics auto invite. I guess Rangers now too
Phats
11-07-2014, 08:59 AM
http://i.imgur.com/2HepVMg.png (http://imgur.com/2HepVMg)
http://i.imgur.com/XazBQAW.png (http://imgur.com/XazBQAW)
http://i.imgur.com/fa7Vwx3.png (http://imgur.com/fa7Vwx3)
Prismaticshop
11-07-2014, 09:17 AM
Cecily is that what you were told? Do you believe everything we were told? Do you know what really went down? Are you a fucking idiot?
http://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?p=1528652#post1528652
http://i.imgur.com/omabTql.png (http://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?p=1528652#post1528652)
http://i.imgur.com/vVUb4WZ.png
http://i.imgur.com/FLbPwzG.png
http://i.imgur.com/bkV0YOP.jpg
#WINNING
So you think I'm Cecily because I killed Foragers with her in TT once?
Keep lookin' Sherlock :D !
Lazie
11-07-2014, 09:38 AM
http://i.imgur.com/2HepVMg.png (http://imgur.com/2HepVMg)
http://i.imgur.com/XazBQAW.png (http://imgur.com/XazBQAW)
http://i.imgur.com/fa7Vwx3.png (http://imgur.com/fa7Vwx3)
Uhm you are really bad at this trolling thing. Need a new gig.
Phats
11-07-2014, 10:22 AM
So you think I'm Cecily because I killed Foragers with her in TT once?
Keep lookin' Sherlock :D !
You were warned. A tale will be told of what really happened in our guild.
http://i.imgur.com/RZsnUGb.png (http://imgur.com/RZsnUGb)
Uhm you are really bad at this trolling thing. Need a new gig.
How am I doing now?
Uhm you are really bad at this trolling thing. Need a new gig.
https://snarfed.org/office_space_flair.jpg
or lack thereof
OR WILL I FAIL AT LINKING AGAIN?
Lazie
11-07-2014, 12:15 PM
https://snarfed.org/office_space_flair.jpg
or lack thereof
OR WILL I FAIL AT LINKING AGAIN?
You fail at so much. It's hard to keep up with.
Lazie
11-07-2014, 12:16 PM
You were warned. A tale will be told of what really happened in our guild.
http://i.imgur.com/RZsnUGb.png (http://imgur.com/RZsnUGb)
How am I doing now?
You use screenshots to try to get a reaction. I use a few words and you carry on like a puppet.
You fail at so much. It's hard to keep up with.
It's OK Lazie, I didn't expect anything more out of you than the tired repetition of a few memes anyway. You really are the new Alarti.
Lazie
11-07-2014, 12:51 PM
It's OK Lazie, I didn't expect anything more out of you than the tired repetition of a few memes anyway. You really are the new Alarti.
Please keep typing. So many people care about your opinion.
Phats
11-07-2014, 12:52 PM
You use screenshots to try to get a reaction. I use a few words and you carry on like a puppet.
http://i.imgur.com/nKpPe1a.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/arq5Zs9.png (http://i.imgur.com/YI91Lk0.jpg)
Ravager
11-07-2014, 12:59 PM
Please keep typing. So many people care about your opinion.
Dramatic Irony: a literary technique, originally used in Greek tragedy, by which the full significance of a character's words or actions are clear to the audience or reader although unknown to the character
Lazie
11-07-2014, 01:19 PM
Dramatic Irony: a literary technique, originally used in Greek tragedy, by which the full significance of a character's words or actions are clear to the audience or reader although unknown to the character
;)
Lazie
11-07-2014, 01:20 PM
Phats should post Hokushin's side of those conversations. Would make it way more entertaining IMO.
zanderklocke
11-07-2014, 01:41 PM
I don't know what's going on.
khanable
11-07-2014, 01:50 PM
I don't know what's going on.
Lazie
11-07-2014, 02:19 PM
Basically for those wondering what was going on...
Hokushin approached officers in TMO roughly 2 months ago about him joining and bringing some members with him. He requested a name change and we considered it. I mean he is a great player and some of the names he mentioned coming over with him are good players. I won't throw what he said about his guild out there for everyone to read (Unless he wants to post it himself) because I imagine it was said in confidence when he was unhappy with the current state of affairs in his guild.
Sckrilla
11-07-2014, 02:54 PM
Hokushin <Legacy>
Phats
11-07-2014, 03:08 PM
Not everyone in TMO was told about our plans over the past few months.
http://i.imgur.com/EfIONHF.png (http://imgur.com/EfIONHF)
Basically for those wondering what was going on...
Hokushin approached officers in TMO roughly 2 months ago about him joining and bringing some members with him. He requested a name change and we considered it. I mean he is a great player and some of the names he mentioned coming over with him are good players. I won't throw what he said about his guild out there for everyone to read (Unless he wants to post it himself) because I imagine it was said in confidence when he was unhappy with the current state of affairs in his guild.
Are you sure about that?
http://i.imgur.com/sg6zkec.png (http://imgur.com/sg6zkec)
Alarti0001
11-07-2014, 03:11 PM
It's OK Lazie, I didn't expect anything more out of you than the tired repetition of a few memes anyway. You really are the new Alarti.
I post memes? You really are the new Anthrax. Delusional.
Alarti0001
11-07-2014, 03:13 PM
Not everyone in TMO was told about our plans over the past few months.
http://i.imgur.com/EfIONHF.png (http://imgur.com/EfIONHF)
Are you sure about that?
http://i.imgur.com/sg6zkec.png (http://imgur.com/sg6zkec)
Can you resize your posts and link the whole conversation. I understand you want to break them up for dramatic affect.. but its not really working and is just becoming annoying.
Lazie
11-07-2014, 03:21 PM
Last post by me. Show Hokushin's side of the conversation if what you claim is true. There is a reason you are leaving it out.
Unbrella seems like the king of mergers. Maybe he is in Private Equity.
Also Phats, enough with the cocktease, lets just post the whole thing
Phats
11-07-2014, 03:31 PM
Can you resize your posts and link the whole conversation. I understand you want to break them up for dramatic affect.. but its not really working and is just becoming annoying.
How is this for sizing? I can only work with what I was sent. I will pm you the rest on our boards.
http://i.imgur.com/tCKsJ57.png (http://imgur.com/tCKsJ57)
Ella`Ella
11-07-2014, 03:44 PM
How is this for sizing? I can only work with what I was sent. I will pm you the rest on our boards.
http://i.imgur.com/tCKsJ57.png (http://imgur.com/tCKsJ57)
Oh, come on now Kaydance/Scumz, it's not like I don't have the other side of the conversation =P.
Oh, come on now Kaydance/Scumz, it's not like I don't have the other side of the conversation =P.
Oh, so this is a real conversation and not Phats getting real creative with photoshop
HeallunRumblebelly
11-07-2014, 04:01 PM
I still support the tmo / ib merger. lilyanna come home :3
arsenalpow
11-07-2014, 04:03 PM
Class C, for Cooperation.
HeallunRumblebelly
11-07-2014, 04:07 PM
Class C, for Cooperation.
Sharing is caring chestypoo.
Aadill
11-07-2014, 04:14 PM
A+ :) :) :) <3 :3 <3 :) :) <3 <3 :3 :3 :3
Phats
11-07-2014, 04:29 PM
Last post by me. Show Hokushin's side of the conversation if what you claim is true. There is a reason you are leaving it out.
I can oblige.
http://iconpopanswers.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/icomania-large-555.jpg
Oh, come on now Kaydance/Scumz, it's not like I don't have the other side of the conversation =P.
I do not think you have this part.
http://i.imgur.com/YJi5tpN.png (http://imgur.com/YJi5tpN)
http://i.imgur.com/qcdZbVN.png (http://imgur.com/qcdZbVN)
http://i.imgur.com/q398KNb.png (http://imgur.com/q398KNb)
Alarti0001
11-07-2014, 04:31 PM
How is this for sizing? I can only work with what I was sent. I will pm you the rest on our boards.
http://i.imgur.com/tCKsJ57.png (http://imgur.com/tCKsJ57)
http://www.gimp.org/downloads/
Oh, come on now Kaydance/Scumz, it's not like I don't have the other side of the conversation =P.
Post it.
arsenalpow
11-07-2014, 04:31 PM
Hah.
khanable
11-07-2014, 04:33 PM
I still have no idea what is going on
quido
11-07-2014, 04:33 PM
god blue is stupid
Magnar
11-07-2014, 04:36 PM
I think Unbrella needs to pull his head out of his own ass and pass leadership off to someone who doesn't behave like they belong in a middle school detention room.
Lazie
11-07-2014, 04:41 PM
Mhm. See how he throws in a conversation without Unbrella now that could have been had at any time. Hence no time stamps. I get that Hokushin is trying to cover himself now. However....
[Sat Jun 14 00:08:54 2014] Executioner says, '80&PCT; of the people these days are slacker fucks'
[Sat Jun 14 00:09:00 2014] Executioner says, '90&PCT;
[Sat Jun 14 00:09:05 2014] You say, 'mhm'
[Sat Jun 14 00:09:08 2014] Executioner says, 'shit aint like old IB days'
[Sat Jun 14 00:09:46 2014] You say, 'yeah'
[Sat Jun 14 00:10:25 2014] You say, 'I mean all guilds fight that'
[Sat Jun 14 00:10:34 2014] You say, 'we have a few that does a lot of the work too'
[Sat Jun 14 00:11:53 2014] Executioner says, 'too bad FE didnt merge w/ us instead of TMO, we would have had 100&PCT; of the kills instead of going back and forth on 30-40&PCT; of them'
[Sat Jun 14 00:12:57 2014] You say, 'I am sure though. If you want to talk about specifics and work out something that makes it a little more equal. Mazam is a pretty good guy. Set a rule about where people camp out etc. Talk to the guy. Oh...I agree man...I get you had your standards but it rubbed folks the wrong way.'
[Sat Jun 14 00:14:24 2014] Executioner says, 'people didnt realize that when i scolded them, it was to make them better. thats how i learned, thats how everyone learned back in the day.. people are just too much of pussies and get their feelings hurt too easily LOL'
[Sat Jun 14 00:20:08 2014] Executioner says, 'i havent yelled in vent in months, it seems to be working keeping people happy, but its not yielding results'
[Sat Jun 14 00:20:30 2014] You say, 'Yeah. That PD where someone forgot to get secondary made my jaw drop.'
[Sat Jun 14 00:20:45 2014] Executioner says, 'yup. and then todays PD where noone trained up'
[Sat Jun 14 00:21:07 2014] Executioner says, 'same shit keeps happening'
Hoku has been trying to get out of IB for awhile. They finally had some success when a lot of us went on break before Velious and he had to cover himself quickly. So he was playing Unbrella but telling me the exact same things back in June ? Nice try.
Juevento
11-07-2014, 04:43 PM
Last post by me.
You're done here.
Lazie
11-07-2014, 04:44 PM
I mean I'd be afraid of what guildies I was throwing under the bus for 3 months would think about this now too.
:)
Ella`Ella
11-07-2014, 04:45 PM
I still think IB and TMO should merge and let another contender step into the ring.
doyoueventrainbro
11-07-2014, 04:47 PM
I mean I'd be afraid of what guildies I was throwing under the bus for 3 months would think about this now too.
:)
Man that's not even very inflamatory of a lognor comment.
Stop posting as you said or stepnupnyour game.
Lazie
11-07-2014, 04:49 PM
Man that's not even very inflamatory of a lognor comment.
Stop posting as you said or stepnupnyour game.
I'd rather not post stuff publicly he said about specific people in his guild.
Man0warr
11-07-2014, 04:49 PM
Lazie you can't say "Last Post" and then keep posting.
Lazie
11-07-2014, 04:51 PM
Lazie you can't say "Last Post" and then keep posting.
I can when he refuses to come forth with the actual conversations.
Lazie
11-07-2014, 04:51 PM
Remember I didn't open this can of worms. But it sure is fun.
doyoueventrainbro
11-07-2014, 04:54 PM
You are at 26 posts currently on this thread. I think you can do 40 if you try, nerd.
Lazie
11-07-2014, 04:54 PM
You are at 26 posts currently on this thread. I think you can do 40 if you try, nerd.
Hey, It's your raid leader. Don't be mad at me.
Alarti0001
11-07-2014, 04:57 PM
You're done here.
GO find a BDA thread where you can talk about things you understand, like handouts, rotations, whining to GM's about how unfair life is and magic the gathering.
oh boy this thread grew some since I checked it at lunch
:popcorn:
Alarti0001
11-07-2014, 04:58 PM
You are at 26 posts currently on this thread. I think you can do 40 if you try, nerd.
You took the time to count posts..........
Phats
11-07-2014, 05:00 PM
I still think IB and TMO should merge and let another contender step into the ring.
How much of our guild can join?
http://i.imgur.com/xe6OUZQ.png (http://imgur.com/xe6OUZQ)
Alarti0001
11-07-2014, 05:01 PM
How much of our guild can join?
http://i.imgur.com/xe6OUZQ.png (http://imgur.com/xe6OUZQ)
Unbrella defined... I
Lazie
11-07-2014, 05:04 PM
Sigh....
Still not posting Hokushin's side of that conversation....All of IB was never coming over. He had a select few picked out to bring. Step up to the plate Phats. Show the whole conversation and stop trying to spin.
Alarti0001
11-07-2014, 05:05 PM
Sigh....
Still not posting Hokushin's side of that conversation....All of IB was never coming over. He had a select few picked out to bring. Step up to the plate Phats. Show the whole conversation and stop trying to spin.
Still waiting on my PM's. I am more than willing to Believe that Unbrella is a cunt, but you need to prove it(tm).
Sckrilla
11-07-2014, 05:09 PM
I still think IB and TMO should merge and let another contender step into the ring.
My Super All-Star Class R guild that consists of Indignation + The A-Team + Omni will step up to that challenge!
RITE GUYZ?
Servellious
11-07-2014, 05:13 PM
did unbrella plan to shed himself from the reformed guild?
Phats
11-07-2014, 05:17 PM
You took the time to count posts..........
Newb..............................
http://i.imgur.com/Jj5meZE.png (http://imgur.com/Jj5meZE)
rebeccablack
11-07-2014, 05:19 PM
#teamdeadweight
Alarti0001
11-07-2014, 05:20 PM
Newb..............................
http://i.imgur.com/Jj5meZE.png (http://imgur.com/Jj5meZE)
Time still taken. Care still given.
Maybe we should talk about the time you took to edit a screenshot for an RnF post :P
Lazie
11-07-2014, 05:20 PM
Newb..............................
http://i.imgur.com/Jj5meZE.png (http://imgur.com/Jj5meZE)
So... Where are the conversations ? I know you are trying to change the topic now that your fable has reached it's end. However, you were the one that went on this rant because of prismatic to try to disprove what he said. You still haven't done that. Great troll btw prismatic you put him in full spin mode.
Shinko
11-07-2014, 05:23 PM
I think Unbrella needs to pull his head out of his own ass and pass leadership off to someone who doesn't behave like they belong in a middle school detention room.
unbrella is not the leader of tmo
Alarti0001
11-07-2014, 05:24 PM
So... Where are the conversations ? I know you are trying to change the topic now that your fable has reached it's end. However, you were the one that went on this rant because of prismatic to try to disprove what he said. You still haven't done that. Great troll btw prismatic you put him in full spin mode.
Lazie... its not a fable just because evidence hasn't been posted. It just isn't proven.
Nirgon
11-07-2014, 05:38 PM
god blue is stupid
Can you imagine tracking Talendor for 5 hours+?
Uuruk
11-07-2014, 05:46 PM
Can you imagine tracking Talendor for 5 hours+?
Can you imagine having to be told when it's your turn to kill pixels.
Phats
11-07-2014, 06:26 PM
Lazie... its not a fable just because evidence hasn't been posted. It just isn't proven.
Unbrella will not deny any of this, what is there to prove?
Alarti0001
11-07-2014, 06:27 PM
Unbrella will not deny any of this, what is there to prove?
Absence of denial doesn't make something proven. Post everything. Why is this hard?
HeallunRumblebelly
11-07-2014, 06:31 PM
Absence of denial doesn't make something proven. Post everything. Why is this hard?
http://hotmeme.net/media/i/1/2/ebk-absence-of-evidence-is-not-the-evidence-of-absence.jpg
Strifer
11-07-2014, 06:32 PM
Unbrella will not deny any of this, what is there to prove?
Leak it onto RnF, like Jennifer Lawrence's nudes months ago.
Eccezan
11-07-2014, 06:37 PM
Shinko is definitely a TMO Veteran if I've ever seen one!
HeallunRumblebelly
11-07-2014, 06:41 PM
Eccezan what're you playing these days anyway?
Uuruk
11-07-2014, 06:42 PM
Eccezan what're you playing these days anyway?
Probably working in a kitchen
Eccezan
11-07-2014, 06:43 PM
Eccezan what're you playing these days anyway?
nothing really. just work and the gf
HeallunRumblebelly
11-07-2014, 06:47 PM
nothing really. just work and the gf
:( P99 needs more RNF heroes.
Alarti0001
11-07-2014, 06:48 PM
:( P99 needs more RNF heroes.
Best RnF moment of all time is still Ecc's Nazi video.
HeallunRumblebelly
11-07-2014, 06:51 PM
Best RnF moment of all time is still Ecc's Nazi video.
Downfall videos are always welcome. Always.
TBH though phats is pretty good. Is a high effort poster if nothing else, like tiggles was in his prime before he went all games reportery.
Strifer
11-07-2014, 06:51 PM
http://s3-ec.buzzfed.com/static/2013-09/enhanced/webdr06/24/17/anigif_enhanced-buzz-3461-1380057793-5.gif
Alarti0001
11-07-2014, 06:57 PM
Downfall videos are always welcome. Always.
TBH though phats is pretty good. Is a high effort poster if nothing else, like tiggles was in his prime before he went all games reportery.
Lol comparing Phats to Tiggles shows how far RnF has fallen.
Phats
11-07-2014, 06:58 PM
Best RnF moment of all time is still Ecc's Nazi video.
Speaking of Nazi video's.
http://youtu.be/k8JzUx1_nks
http://i.imgur.com/sg6zkec.png (http://youtu.be/k8JzUx1_nks)
HeallunRumblebelly
11-07-2014, 06:58 PM
Lol comparing Phats to Tiggles shows how far RnF has fallen.
He gets teh responses tigs did, but tigs would take it that next lvl to the RL shit. Tigs also did his research prior and would leave it as "we report you decide" u know :3 Did good work there. Phats still not bad, RNF has been stale for a long time.
Ravager
11-07-2014, 07:12 PM
I still think IB and TMO should merge and let another contender step into the ring and merge too. <Global OOC>
arsenalpow
11-07-2014, 07:13 PM
always room for a good downfall video
Ravager
11-07-2014, 07:14 PM
Absence of denial doesn't make something proven. Post everything. Why is this hard?
Absence of Alarti would be swell.
Alarti0001
11-07-2014, 07:22 PM
He gets teh responses tigs did, but tigs would take it that next lvl to the RL shit. Tigs also did his research prior and would leave it as "we report you decide" u know :3 Did good work there. Phats still not bad, RNF has been stale for a long time.
No he doesn't. Everyone who responds in RnF now is just responding because there isn't anything else to respond to. When there is no one else creating drama its easy to excel. No competition. Draw those parallels how you will :P
Alarti0001
11-07-2014, 07:25 PM
Speaking of Nazi video's.
It needs alot of work :( It doesn't even compare to the previous ones sadly. Especially since Tortue was obviously our best member you took.
Shinko
11-07-2014, 07:38 PM
the tiggles alarti part made me LOL tho
Lazie
11-07-2014, 07:39 PM
It needs alot of work :( It doesn't even compare to the previous ones sadly. Especially since Tortue was obviously our best member you took.
He gets credit for trying at least. Like I said though earlier. His whole story is a fable. It's why he won't present Hoku's side of the conversation and is only picking snippets from conversations that happened over a long period of time. I would be surprised if anyone in IB actually believes Hoku was trolling. I can say without a doubt he was trying to jump ship.
Ella`Ella
11-07-2014, 07:48 PM
I can say without a doubt he was trying to jump ship.
Hokushin's Arc
Ella`Ella
11-07-2014, 07:48 PM
Hokushin's Ark*
Xerxes
11-07-2014, 07:49 PM
omg best video ever unbrella 100% rofl \o
Alarti0001
11-07-2014, 08:04 PM
He gets credit for trying at least. Like I said though earlier. His whole story is a fable. It's why he won't present Hoku's side of the conversation and is only picking snippets from conversations that happened over a long period of time. I would be surprised if anyone in IB actually believes Hoku was trolling. I can say without a doubt he was trying to jump ship.
Not to plays devil's advocate but what proof do you have that Hoku wasn't trolling? Right now you and phats have equal proof for each situation.
Hitpoint
11-07-2014, 08:15 PM
Not to plays devil's advocate but what proof do you have that Hoku wasn't trolling? Right now you and phats have equal proof for each situation.
Those talks started months ago when we were wrecking IB. There would have been no reason to troll like that when they were being beaten so badly. Hoku stopped the talks when IB started winning, and started pretending it was a troll the whole time.
It's not proof, but it's logical that he started pretending that it was a troll so these talks couldn't be used against him after reneging on the deal. I'm pretty sure it started out real just because of the situation IB was in. Then it became a troll when IB recovered.
Strifer
11-07-2014, 08:18 PM
One more thing we need in this RnF courtroom...
https://31.media.tumblr.com/483e7214cd382a479f02e692428ab8df/tumblr_mumdruyYUE1shxe70o2_500.gif
Lazie
11-07-2014, 08:47 PM
[Sat Jun 14 00:07:14 2014] You say, 'Um...Well honestly they gotta learn don't they ? I mean you can't keep doing most of the work for them.'
[Sat Jun 14 00:07:49 2014] You say, 'I know me and you put in a lot of time in here and you more than me'
[Sat Jun 14 00:08:10 2014] Executioner says, 'me and you should create a guild of the trackers '
[Sat Jun 14 00:08:31 2014] Executioner says, 'combined'
As you can see by the time stamps this was directly before the last logs I posted.
Remember Hokushin said his talks about this was only 3 months in the message Phats posted. June is kinda sorta 5 months ago. He also claimed to just be trolling Unbrella. Except he approached more than 1 person about this. Like a few of us say. Never ask a question you don't already know the answer to.
Most of the initial conversations started with phrases like "IF IB completely dies" which they were very close to doing at the time. Trust me I have nothing against Hoku. Guy is pretty cool in my book. Let's not get to the point you try to turn this into a troll to cover for his actions though.
Servellious
11-07-2014, 09:05 PM
this phats guy sure is trying hard.
Phats
11-07-2014, 09:18 PM
this phats guy sure is trying hard.Those talks started months ago when we were wrecking IB. There would have been no reason to troll like that when they were being beaten so badly. Hoku stopped the talks when IB started winning, and started pretending it was a troll the whole time.
It's not proof, but it's logical that he started pretending that it was a troll so these talks couldn't be used against him after reneging on the deal. I'm pretty sure it started out real just because of the situation IB was in. Then it became a troll when IB recovered.
I guess the video Hokushin posted on his youtube account http://youtu.be/nGXPWB7DSkA in september means he changed his mind just recently. Perhaps he made the video in September just in case he changed his mind.
Lazie and Hitpoint, two of the densest mfers on P99. Drink more Kool-Aid.
Everyone in TMO and all our officers in TMO know Unbrella basically fucked us. Making deals with the devil and promising to get rid of our existing guild/raid leader in the process.
Hitpoint
11-07-2014, 09:22 PM
September lines up pretty well with what I said, actually.
Phats
11-07-2014, 09:45 PM
September lines up pretty well with what I said, actually.
http://s3.amazonaws.com/rapgenius/koolaid-good.png
HeallunRumblebelly
11-07-2014, 10:09 PM
Hokushin always seemed so cold :| Would talk to him all the time but unless he needed something he never had time to talk to Heallun, no no no ~
Perun finds time, #1 IB monk :3
Nukehard
11-08-2014, 12:33 AM
Shinko is definitely a TMO Veteran if I've ever seen one!
Play more please old frund, I miss my 2nd favorite wizzy. PS finally got that epic bro!
Clark
11-08-2014, 01:41 AM
One more thing we need in this RnF courtroom...
https://31.media.tumblr.com/483e7214cd382a479f02e692428ab8df/tumblr_mumdruyYUE1shxe70o2_500.gif
lol
Lazie
11-08-2014, 08:33 AM
I guess the video Hokushin posted on his youtube account http://youtu.be/nGXPWB7DSkA in september means he changed his mind just recently. Perhaps he made the video in September just in case he changed his mind.
Lazie and Hitpoint, two of the densest mfers on P99. Drink more Kool-Aid.
Everyone in TMO and all our officers in TMO know Unbrella basically fucked us. Making deals with the devil and promising to get rid of our existing guild/raid leader in the process.
You're pretty ignorant to believe the crap you do that is spoon fed to you.
Phantasm
11-08-2014, 02:18 PM
what fucking difference does any of this make
radditsu
11-08-2014, 02:55 PM
what fucking difference does any of this make
Ella`Ella
11-08-2014, 06:28 PM
this phats guy sure is trying hard.
He's no Solarbane
Phats
11-08-2014, 07:00 PM
He's no Solarbane
Sell any accounts lately?
http://youtu.be/WaIsjgv_Kpw
Ella`Ella
11-08-2014, 07:05 PM
Sell any accounts lately?
http://youtu.be/WaIsjgv_Kpw
Pre-existing deal before the rule came in, bro. Also had permission at the time.
So, you can take his debt of 160k and 3 fungis for his mage back...
Phats
11-08-2014, 07:08 PM
sure it was, sent on september 5, 2014
http://i.imgur.com/uGI9l6y.png (http://imgur.com/uGI9l6y)
Ella`Ella
11-08-2014, 07:10 PM
sure it was, sent on september 5, 2014
http://i.imgur.com/uGI9l6y.png (http://imgur.com/uGI9l6y)
And, like I said, I had permission then because the actual deal was proposed far before that shit acct trading rule went into effect. I don't remember what Sloan ended up paying for the account in total, but my end was 160k and 3 fungis. I believe Mizo is still owed as well.
Phats
11-08-2014, 07:14 PM
You must be the only player on P99 with permission to sell accounts for money.
Lucky you.
Ella`Ella
11-08-2014, 07:15 PM
You must be the only player on P99 with permission to sell accounts for plat.
Lucky you.
ftfy
Eponymous Anonymous
11-08-2014, 07:16 PM
So anyone can just sell / buy accounts now as long as you claim the deal was first proposed before August of 2013?
Do you have fraps, logs and screenshots available to corroborate your story? Prove it.
Man0warr
11-08-2014, 07:32 PM
Not sure how you are gonna get out of this one Unbrella.
doyoueventrainbro
11-08-2014, 07:34 PM
Pre-existing deal before the rule came in, bro. Also had permission at the time.
So, you can take his debt of 160k and 3 fungis for his mage back...
Wow coo. It is great to know that certain people can get permission to sell accounts.
More stone cold proof of brella rmt. No big deal. Move along, people.
Troubled
11-08-2014, 07:40 PM
http://www.quickmeme.com/img/dc/dcb8d4c94ff4a798c16770cbda502bcb944dc6d2bd9b16eeab 690d2696b22dfc.jpg
Pre-existing deal before the rule came in, bro.
whoa whoa whoa, what is going on here? Account sales have been banned for like a year.
Bazia
11-08-2014, 08:35 PM
im sure the dude used the p99 forums to arrange for rmt
makes sense
Juevento
11-08-2014, 09:42 PM
Wipe it clean.
zanderklocke
11-08-2014, 09:43 PM
whoa whoa whoa, what is going on here? Account sales have been banned for like a year.
jarshale
11-08-2014, 10:06 PM
Account selling confirmed for legal again
Oleris
11-08-2014, 10:13 PM
http://www.reactiongifs.com/r/2011/05/THISGONBGUD.gif
Faron
11-08-2014, 10:37 PM
try red
Clark
11-08-2014, 11:09 PM
http://i.imgur.com/Mx9qEtJ.jpg
Hasbinphat
11-09-2014, 02:09 AM
http://38.media.tumblr.com/3d5d5476bb03e170f3f5ab872990eb88/tumblr_nd1m08lF5G1s6gs4do1_500.gif
TMO so immersed
11-09-2014, 11:50 AM
Account trading. Disregarding raid rules with trackers on spawn points.
When can we expect a suspension for TMO, GMs?
Alarti0001
11-09-2014, 11:59 AM
Account trading. Disregarding raid rules with trackers on spawn points.
When can we expect a suspension for TMO, GMs?
Only person stupid enough to believe RMT was being traded on the p99 forum .... Anthrax. Hey Bud!
Man0warr
11-09-2014, 12:16 PM
Yeah but even if it was being traded for in game money/items, it's still illegal :<
kotton05
11-09-2014, 12:21 PM
RIP class r
Eponymous Anonymous
11-09-2014, 03:45 PM
RIP class r
haha Class R aren't the ones that are caught blatantly selling accounts when it's clearly illegal. Nice try on your deflection though.
Servellious
11-09-2014, 05:41 PM
You guys have to much time on your hands go meet a girl or find a hobby
arsenalpow
11-09-2014, 05:48 PM
You guys have to much time on your hands go meet a girl or find a hobby
too*
Shinko
11-09-2014, 05:59 PM
KAGOK GOT OWNED GOOD ONE CHEST
Xerxes
11-09-2014, 09:38 PM
got em!
Servellious
11-09-2014, 10:03 PM
you both deserve to be back in BDA
Shinko
11-09-2014, 10:20 PM
Team Tripod
fastboy21
11-09-2014, 11:06 PM
Shinko of guild <Shinko>!...how dare you disrespect him.
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