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Rogean
11-24-2014, 03:39 PM
Starting on Friday, November 28th* and lasting until Monday, December 1st* we will be shutting down** the Project 1999 Blue*** Server to encourage a Forced Beta Test on the Velious Beta Server. We ask that all players spend their time on Beta to help complete as much testing and bug reporting as possible.

* Exact Start and End times are not known.
** The server itself may remain up to facilitate beta copies but will not be available for play.
*** The red server will remain open.

We plan to have a mechanism in place to perform a beta copy during this time but we recommend that you do a beta copy ahead of time anyways.

Also keep in mind that boxing is allowed on the Beta server.

Thanks.

triad
11-24-2014, 03:40 PM
awesome rogean cant wait !

Ele
11-24-2014, 03:43 PM
Starting on Friday, November 28th* and lasting until Monday, December 1st* we will be shutting down** the Project 1999 Blue*** Server to encourage a Forced Beta Test on the Velious Beta Server. We ask that all players spend their time on Beta to help complete as much testing and bug reporting as possible.

* Exact Start and End times are not known.
** The server itself may remain up to facilitate beta copies but will not be available for play.
*** The red server will remain open.

We plan to have a mechanism in place to perform a beta copy during this time but we recommend that you do a beta copy ahead of time anyways.

Thanks.

Incoming Red has population of 1000.

Really though, not soon enough for this!

Sirken
11-24-2014, 03:47 PM
pras

Pringles
11-24-2014, 03:48 PM
A+

Please shutdown red also, many saying they'll just play there....

hablabba
11-24-2014, 03:52 PM
Would read again. 10/10 post.

teija
11-24-2014, 03:52 PM
any chance of sparing our sky keys somehow? As we normally do sky on sundays. =)

HydroPonics
11-24-2014, 03:56 PM
The sooner you do this the sooner you get Velious.

Portasaurus
11-24-2014, 03:58 PM
posting in a troll thread

Relbaic
11-24-2014, 03:58 PM
Thanks!

Raewhen
11-24-2014, 04:03 PM
I can't say I like this. Right in the middle of holiday.

SamwiseRed
11-24-2014, 04:06 PM
red gonna be a blood bath

Cecily
11-24-2014, 04:10 PM
I can't say I like this. Right in the middle of holiday.

It's better than TMO's christmas last year lol.

Daldaen
11-24-2014, 04:14 PM
I'd be curious to see how a policy like "when Velious goes live you can keep a single item from your beta character for your love character" would go. (Excluding anything offered from the gnomes and no Kunark stuff from beta-buffs).

Would definitely see people hitting beta hard. Really hard.

But really, should shut down red too.

contemptor
11-24-2014, 04:14 PM
Such cruel timing, lol.

Ella`Ella
11-24-2014, 04:14 PM
A+

Please shutdown red also, many saying they'll just play there....

Took
11-24-2014, 04:16 PM
I play on red and I will actively participate during this time. Thanks though for not shutting down our server (the better one).

Cecily
11-24-2014, 04:18 PM
I'd be curious to see how a policy like "when Velious goes live you can keep a single item from your beta character for your love character" would go. (Excluding anything offered from the gnomes and no Kunark stuff from beta-buffs).

Would definitely see people hitting beta hard. Really hard.

But really, should shut down red too.

Primal Velium Warsword, I choose you. That or the PD robe / race change Rogean gave me. Please please make me a dark elf on blue <3

eqravenprince
11-24-2014, 04:20 PM
Forced beta test, isn't that what Sony usually went Live with. I'd say just go live with what you have. Win win. Economy is already borked. What's the worst that could happen.

Dis_Still_Mornin
11-24-2014, 04:25 PM
Rogean smart. He knows you don't want the red population involved at all with beta testing. Keeps them distracted with kunark pixels.

SamwiseRed
11-24-2014, 04:27 PM
lol

Ravager
11-24-2014, 04:27 PM
Forced beta test, isn't that what Sony usually went Live with. I'd say just go live with what you have. Win win. Economy is already borked. What's the worst that could happen.

Pretty much this. This entire project has been a perpetual beta test anyway.

Crawdad
11-24-2014, 04:28 PM
A+

Please shutdown red also, many saying they'll just play there....

Glenzig
11-24-2014, 04:28 PM
Oooh. Very interdasting. This should push Velious up by quite a bit. I hope.

Haynar
11-24-2014, 04:28 PM
I'd be curious to see how a policy like "when Velious goes live you can keep a single item from your beta character for your love character" would go. (Excluding anything offered from the gnomes and no Kunark stuff from beta-buffs).

Would definitely see people hitting beta hard. Really hard.

But really, should shut down red too.
I asked Rogean to enable PvP in Kael. Have one pvp zone. He said no to Kael tho.

H

Cecily
11-24-2014, 04:30 PM
Lol do Skyshrine for CS key hilarity.

falkun
11-24-2014, 04:32 PM
Will this period be Velious only, or will the Beta server have all of Everquest available? My high elf paladin could use some time in Hate to collect the piece for ND, which has been unavailable until now.

Pint
11-24-2014, 04:32 PM
I knew I was going to spend all holiday weekend in norrath, guess I better bring some furs.

Cecily
11-24-2014, 04:35 PM
Better yet collect me some. Wyntir is 217? tailoring. I need to test out combines.

Tankdan
11-24-2014, 04:36 PM
I'm hoping the Devs give us a goal on what they would like tested this weekend. I personally raid beta 1 or 2 times per week and I feel as though the raiding aspect of things is outpacing the fixing of the bugs and pathing etc.

For objectives such as testing quest turn ins, there isnt much we can do. In any given raid, there's only a few quest pieces that drop (especially when trash doesnt need to be killed). If you want quest items tested, I'd suggest upping the drop rate 1000% on mobs dropping armor, gem quests, on beta only.

For purely dragon boss testing, you could get rid of trash mobs (or significantly nerf them temporarily) to avoid the hours and hours it takes to clear to some of the mobs.

A lot of Beta just isnt beatable in Kunark gear+Low beta numbers that guilds are pulling. Maybe offer a Velious geared buff bot to give a better shot at the end content.

Those are just some ideas off top of my head that might speed up the process of testing.

Ele
11-24-2014, 04:46 PM
I'm hoping the Devs give us a goal on what they would like tested this weekend. I personally raid beta 1 or 2 times per week and I feel as though the raiding aspect of things is outpacing the fixing of the bugs and pathing etc.

For objectives such as testing quest turn ins, there isnt much we can do. In any given raid, there's only a few quest pieces that drop (especially when trash doesnt need to be killed). If you want quest items tested, I'd suggest upping the drop rate 1000% on mobs dropping armor, gem quests, on beta only.

Thread of quests/recipes that need confirmation: http://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=157067

If you up drop rates to 100%, then you might as well allow people to just summon the items for turn in. Testing drop rates during beta is important to avoid unnecessary issues on live.

For purely dragon boss testing, you could get rid of trash mobs (or significantly nerf them temporarily) to avoid the hours and hours it takes to clear to some of the mobs.

There are a number of beta testers across half a dozen guilds that can help summon mobs or reset them. If you coordinate with the server staff/devs, they can jump on beta during your schedule raid and help do mass buffs or #kill of trash.


A lot of Beta just isnt beatable in Kunark gear+Low beta numbers that guilds are pulling. Maybe offer a Velious geared buff bot to give a better shot at the end content.

Those are just some ideas off top of my head that might speed up the process of testing.

You don't have to kill the boss mobs to test them and there is stuff beyond boss mobs and raids that needs testing. Shutting down blue should help your numbers.

Reguiy
11-24-2014, 04:47 PM
I approve of this message.

Ele
11-24-2014, 04:49 PM
Will this period be Velious only, or will the Beta server have all of Everquest available? My high elf paladin could use some time in Hate to collect the piece for ND, which has been unavailable until now.

Nature's Defender isn't getting added to Beta. It will be available in a post-release patch update.

Pending update, you may ask the Velious Beta Banker for some items only obtainable in the old world. To summarize, all of the listed Fusibility Research items, Velium Focus items, Mighty Snowfang Hero, and Crest of the Wood Nymphs.

Spirit of Garzicor and Nature's Defender will need to wait, as those are related to post-Velious revamps.

dennardscott86
11-24-2014, 04:52 PM
EZ Server Here we come!!!

Reguiy
11-24-2014, 04:53 PM
Will the server timeline be paused during that time? ie - corpse timers, raid mobs, etc

Daldaen
11-24-2014, 04:56 PM
When Blue comes back online will there be an epic patch? 4-5 months of Classic Quest has been good to P99 Classic lovers. We just need those fixes pushed live.

Specialization fixed
Cleric Epic fixes
PoSky gets some classic changes
Phinigel gets some classic love
Tons of spell changes

So much classic I'm unsure a single patch can handle it all.

Swish
11-24-2014, 04:58 PM
A+

Please shutdown red also, many saying they'll just play there....

This is precisely what red needs. I thank Rogean for making an informed decision. I'll be boxing both <3

Hailto
11-24-2014, 05:07 PM
What is the point of keeping the red server up if you want velious beta testing?

Nirgon
11-24-2014, 05:08 PM
holo crootin

Daldaen
11-24-2014, 05:08 PM
Nah red needs to be shut down too.

Which server will the people boxing both pay more attention to:

1. The server where any Neckbeard can come up behind them AFK or medding looking into their spell book, kill them, take their plat, then brag about their yellow text increasing their kill-death ratio as though it took skill to PvP in EQ.
2. The server where your character will be wiped away in a few months, you have instant gate, corpse summon, and rez sticks. The server where you can immediately resummon a full set of gear on death negating the need for corpse runs. The server where you can teleport to any zone instantly.

It will just end up being anyone boxing the two not helping beta test at all since they won't be paying attention to that box much.

Shut down red for this so that everyone has their full attention on beta testing.

Swish
11-24-2014, 05:08 PM
What is the point of keeping the red server up if you want velious beta testing?

Remember, red has 20 people on it like you all keep saying :p

Is there any testing of pvp mechanics happening on beta?

Ele
11-24-2014, 05:08 PM
What is the point of keeping the red server up if you want velious beta testing?

Why take it down? No one plays there!

Get it!?!

evan1612
11-24-2014, 05:14 PM
Why take it down? No one plays there!

Get it!?!

Sure no one plays there, but they will when the actual server is down. Also being able to trade red plat for blue plat helps people feel like they are actually doing something worth their time.

Hailto
11-24-2014, 05:14 PM
Remember, red has 20 people on it like you all keep saying :p

Is there any testing of pvp mechanics happening on beta?

How many people play on red is irrelevant, if you're going to "force" a velious beta, you give p99 players no other choice but to play on the velious server. That's what forced beta implies.

BulletCatcher
11-24-2014, 05:18 PM
Really? during the holiday weekend? I was going to grind so much...

SamwiseRed
11-24-2014, 05:24 PM
Really? during the holiday weekend? I was going to grind so much...

that is so sad lol

Niedar
11-24-2014, 05:25 PM
pras red server

Arturo Fuente
11-24-2014, 05:28 PM
Reward the people that beta test this weekend with some double exp when blue is back up!

Rivthis
11-24-2014, 05:29 PM
Guess it is time to beta buff all those level 1s i made to hold names for me at a later date.

SamwiseRed
11-24-2014, 05:34 PM
honestly should wipe both servers.

Cecily
11-24-2014, 05:35 PM
How many people play on red is irrelevant, if you're going to "force" a velious beta, you give p99 players no other choice but to play on the velious server. That's what forced beta implies.

Both servers need players, so it's honestly a brilliant decision. Most blue players have a strong enough aversion to red that they'll funnel into the beta, where they are needed. If it works out to increase red population as a side effect, that's only a good thing for the health of our servers.

evan1612
11-24-2014, 05:37 PM
:eek:Both servers need players, so it's honestly a brilliant decision. Most blue players have a strong enough aversion to red that they'll funnel into the beta, where they are needed. If it works out to increase red population as a side effect, that's only a good thing for the health of our servers.

GMs know red is dying/dead so this is the best way they can think to get players on there(by forcing them for a weekend lol). :(

YendorLootmonkey
11-24-2014, 05:40 PM
Not only does red need to be shut down, internet porn needs to be shut down so there are absolutely no distractions to this Velious testing period.

zanderklocke
11-24-2014, 05:42 PM
If you train people on beta, do you get banned on blue or red?

Cecily
11-24-2014, 05:43 PM
Neither. It's called testing pathing.

Greengrocer
11-24-2014, 05:43 PM
http://www.quickmeme.com/img/9d/9d52c9dfc0ee2409446d8aff8944e519e7997c213e2771262f a99e00fa0b6956.jpg

Mindif
11-24-2014, 05:44 PM
What is the point of keeping the red server up if you want velious beta testing?

To keep all the redies on red.

toolshed
11-24-2014, 05:48 PM
Great idea. The best thing for Project1999 is for Velious to come out, and I'm glad that this is the focus.

Tankdan
11-24-2014, 05:49 PM
Thread of quests/recipes that need confirmation: http://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=157067

If you up drop rates to 100%, then you might as well allow people to just summon the items for turn in. Testing drop rates during beta is important to avoid unnecessary issues on live.

I'm well aware of that thread. And if you actually look at the armor quests completed you'd know that will NEVER get anywhere close to completion in time at the current drop rate. Upping the drop rate for testing purposes is perfectly fine considering the hundreds of raids that have already taken place and the results it has yielded. It can be reverted back for a final beta build to make sure everything is working as intended.

zanderklocke
11-24-2014, 05:56 PM
Neither. It's called testing pathing.

VP train wars round 2 should happen in Velious beta.

Nuktari
11-24-2014, 05:56 PM
hows the shut down gonna effect raid mob timers, just wondering

Glenzig
11-24-2014, 06:13 PM
:eek:

GMs know red is dying/dead so this is the best way they can think to get players on there(by forcing them for a weekend lol). :(

This guy gets it.

Tormax
11-24-2014, 06:29 PM
Thanks Rogean, one more step forward!!!

Wabic
11-24-2014, 06:39 PM
I was planning to marathon a vox tooth necro pet 3-day log. Bad idea?

Culkasi
11-24-2014, 06:49 PM
hows the shut down gonna effect raid mob timers, just wondering

This is an important question I hope we can get an answer to

Portasaurus
11-24-2014, 06:51 PM
Will all the meat I socked away at [vendor whose name shall not be disclosed] be safe over the weekend, or is this a true reset where vendors will come back with only their base items?

Ravager
11-24-2014, 06:59 PM
Not only does red need to be shut down, internet porn needs to be shut down so there are absolutely no distractions to this Velious testing period.

Great, now I have to dig out my VCR and my scrambled skinemax cassettes.

uygi
11-24-2014, 07:54 PM
any chance of sparing our sky keys somehow? As we normally do sky on sundays. =)

Port up, loot the keys and log out on isle 1. Your keys will last literally forever that way!

mickey182
11-24-2014, 08:20 PM
Never mind, found my answer. Thnx.

Byel
11-24-2014, 08:47 PM
First forum spam advocating red, now a forced test/red play period by shutting blue down and not the little step brother server..pretty clear desperate attempts to free up some blue space for velious returnees. .I'll pass. Mini Vaca from pc for a few days i guess

Pringles
11-24-2014, 09:04 PM
Will all the meat I socked away at [vendor whose name shall not be disclosed] be safe over the weekend, or is this a true reset where vendors will come back with only their base items?

You better corpse it like a pro!

Fame
11-24-2014, 09:14 PM
good thread and "forced" is one of my favorite google search terms

raka
11-24-2014, 09:15 PM
A+

Please shutdown red also, many saying they'll just play there....

S a spiked D

SamwiseRed
11-24-2014, 09:19 PM
First forum spam advocating red, now a forced test/red play period by shutting blue down and not the little step brother server..pretty clear desperate attempts to free up some blue space for velious returnees. .I'll pass. Mini Vaca from pc for a few days i guess

if you need a shut down to take a vacation from your pc, you should really seek help.

Pudge
11-24-2014, 09:25 PM
thanksgiving weekend.. i'll be out of town. otherwise i'd load up on red to try and help powerlevel newbs. this weekend could be a blast for blues who want to give it a try. HAVE FUN blues!

Altair
11-24-2014, 09:30 PM
Forced to play beta or be dragged out for the pre Xmas shopping fun.....
Thank You, GMs;) there is a santa...

Portasaurus
11-24-2014, 09:35 PM
You better corpse it like a pro!

That is incredibly unsanitary and doing that would also violate numerous public safety laws. Disgusting.

Argh
11-24-2014, 09:43 PM
Even if on blue all you can do is /beta, it will still have more pop than red.

anotherfiz
11-24-2014, 10:18 PM
PS red is at its highest population since its inception.

Kushie
11-24-2014, 10:54 PM
Is this real life?

Lownstar
11-25-2014, 12:09 AM
This is a pretty shitty thing to do over a long holiday weekend.

Aviann
11-25-2014, 12:23 AM
This is a pretty shitty thing to do over a long holiday weekend.

The server needs this more than a few people need their new spell level. We've been waiting for Velious for years in hopes that it'd fix the toxic endgame scene we have now.

Maybe those individuals who think this is a shitty thing should do everyone a favor and help out this weekend so it isn't just the current testers doing all the work for them.

Lownstar
11-25-2014, 12:30 AM
How will adding more mobs to poopsock fix endgame?

phoenix182
11-25-2014, 12:32 AM
The server needs this more than a few people need their new spell level. We've been waiting for Velious for years in hopes that it'd fix the toxic endgame scene we have now.

Maybe those individuals who think this is a shitty thing should do everyone a favor and help out this weekend so it isn't just the current testers doing all the work for them.

Of course, there's another side to this.

Take a group of people who don't have high level toons, and haven't explored Velious content (at least not recently enough to matter), give them high level toons and let them loose in these new zones.

Is the feedback you're going to receive of any real value? Some, maybe, but mostly you'll get a crazy, chaotic cluster.

The purpose of open or forced betas is load testing (and MAYBE hunting lagpoints caused by bad object intersections). That's it's only true value. No one else has any idea what's going on, or how to behave. IF they play at all (and that's a BIG if) they'll be too busy figuring things out and dying repeatedly to know if anything is 'how it should be' to provide valuable feedback.

Aviann
11-25-2014, 12:36 AM
Of course, there's another side to this.

Take a group of people who don't have high level toons, and haven't explored Velious content (at least not recently enough to matter), give them high level toons and let them loose in these new zones.

Is the feedback you're going to receive of any real value? Some, maybe, but mostly you'll get a crazy, chaotic cluster.

The purpose of open or forced betas is load testing (and MAYBE hunting lagpoints caused by bad object intersections). That's it's only true value. No one else has any idea what's going on, or how to behave. IF they play at all (and that's a BIG if) they'll be too busy figuring things out and dying repeatedly to know if anything is 'how it should be' to provide valuable feedback.

There is a multitude of things to do in Velious that doesn't involve being a high level and whirling yourself around dungeons you can't handle, fortunately, if that is what you choose to do, you have the option.

When you /beta over a character, it creates a copy of your toon, you can continue to use said toon to test your own metal in the land of Winter, or you can be just as useless to the community as you want to be.

Hopefully somewhere in the cluster, some good will come forth and we can all rejoice when Velious drops instead of picking trouble at each other.

phoenix182
11-25-2014, 12:42 AM
There is a multitude of things to do in Velious that doesn't involve being a high level and whirling yourself around dungeons you can't handle, fortunately, if that is what you choose to do, you have the option.

When you /beta over a character, it creates a copy of your toon, you can continue to use said toon to test your own metal in the land of Winter, or you can be just as useless to the community as you want to be.

Hopefully somewhere in the cluster, some good will come forth and we can all rejoice when Velious drops instead of picking trouble at each other.

I know there'll be some good gained from it. Especially since just by being on this server after so many years there's a good chance many of us have at least some mid to high level experience. I certainly want to see Velious as soon, and as functional, as possible.

But I just wanted to point out that there are definitely negatives to the METHOD being used. I foresee a LOT of bad compared to any good.

Aviann
11-25-2014, 12:44 AM
I know there'll be some good gained from it. Especially since just by being on this server after so many years there's a good chance many of us have at least some mid to high level experience. I certainly want to see Velious as soon, and as functional, as possible.

But I just wanted to point out that there are definitely negatives to the METHOD being used. I foresee a LOT of bad compared to any good.

If there is any good coming out of this, than there will be no bad, plain and simple. There is nothing bad that can come out of this besides a bunch of people spamming GM's for their time.

phoenix182
11-25-2014, 12:50 AM
If there is any good coming out of this, than there will be no bad, plain and simple. There is nothing bad that can come out of this besides a bunch of people spamming GM's for their time.

Fair enough. *shrug* I get a good game that only costs me donations, so I'm not complaining about a single weekend lost to keep improving it. I just think it's important to consider all sides of things...if for no other reason than to learn from them in the future. Guessing we'll see how it goes soon enough. 8-)

Reguiy
11-25-2014, 01:22 AM
I say shut it down til velious is ready. I reckon we'd be prancing around in a winter wonderland within 5 weeks. Anyone else with me here?

Tann
11-25-2014, 01:25 AM
Sunday.. my one day a week to play on a stable connection for more than 30min to an hour. Was hoping to knock out a few more levels!

GtaV it is!

myriverse
11-25-2014, 08:13 AM
Fair enough. *shrug* I get a good game that only costs me donations, so I'm not complaining about a single weekend lost to keep improving it. I just think it's important to consider all sides of things...if for no other reason than to learn from them in the future. Guessing we'll see how it goes soon enough. 8-)
I hope you're wrong, but I suspect you won't be.

I question the qualifications of the masses.

Smedy
11-25-2014, 08:33 AM
pras

brogean does a lot

falkun
11-25-2014, 09:20 AM
Good way to minimize the petition queue while GMs are having real lives with families. Aviann, your expectations are unrealistic; Velious will do nothing more to fix the raid scene than Kunark did. People will be kind and/or mean regardless of wherever they are.

That's sad news about the Nature's Defender Ele. Also leads me to believe the epic revamps will be delayed, which is more sad news. Did Devs ever decide on whether they will implement the 2H+Vulak item upgrades or just implement the final versions from the start?

falkun
11-25-2014, 09:35 AM
any chance of sparing our sky keys somehow? As we normally do sky on sundays. =)

According to Sirken's stream, the server will still be ticking...which means mobs (dragons) will spawn and corpses will decay.

trist4n
11-25-2014, 09:53 AM
Really? I get my first break in forever where I can spend a few days playing EQ and relaxing at home over Thanksgiving. NOPE. Forced Velious beta test time.

SamwiseRed
11-25-2014, 09:56 AM
Really? I get my first break in forever where I can spend a few days playing EQ and relaxing at home over Thanksgiving. NOPE. Forced Velious beta test time.

http://img2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20130818100405/survivoronlinegaming/images/9/96/Simpsons-nelson-ha-ha-93-p-672x480.jpg

feanan
11-25-2014, 10:09 AM
Who wants to bet which server sees a bigger population due to blue being shut down...

red or beta?

I'm gonna go with red...

Whirled
11-25-2014, 10:33 AM
http://s3-ec.buzzfed.com/static/enhanced/terminal05/2012/9/21/15/anigif_enhanced-buzz-6390-1348255475-2.gif

*Red / Blue stuff ^^

Daldaen
11-25-2014, 10:38 AM
According to Sirken's stream, the server will still be ticking...which means mobs (dragons) will spawn and corpses will decay.

So many wow...

This means that every raid mob will have been up for 6+ hours.

Full FFA with no bag limit.

Veeshan's Peak dragons left up for 6 hours lose their Class C status too right?

Sampten
11-25-2014, 10:48 AM
While I'm all for the beta testing of Velious, I think the timing here is off. I'd rather it be the Monday-Thursday of the following week then over a holiday weekend when most people will want something to do that avoids going to the mall or shopping.

Slightly disappointed.

Ele
11-25-2014, 10:56 AM
I say shut it down til velious is ready. I reckon we'd be prancing around in a winter wonderland within 5 weeks. Anyone else with me here?

but my pixels will poof!

khanable
11-25-2014, 11:18 AM
pras staff

Fanguru
11-25-2014, 11:49 AM
So Monday when blue is playable again, everything is indeed up, ffa and ready for camped guilds?
What about raid.php, does it update normally?

Byel
11-25-2014, 12:15 PM
if you need a shut down to take a vacation from your pc, you should really seek help.


Says the guy with over 10k post. Wanting to play while on vacation from work and obviously not working and sitting on forums all day are two different ball fields..maybe you need help getting off your ass, I'm good chief.

williestargell
11-25-2014, 12:17 PM
Some definite clarification of how mobs are to be treated when blue comes available would be greatly appreciated. We won't know mobs spawn times, so we won't know if C/R mobs have ticked past 6 hours making them FFA. Can we assume everything is FFA?

Kergan
11-25-2014, 12:19 PM
Not sure about blue but on red all mobs are FFA and so are other players.

Daldaen
11-25-2014, 12:39 PM
Not sure about blue but on red all mobs are FFA and so are other players.

This is why the toxic server has only 50 people playing on it.

Kergan
11-25-2014, 12:43 PM
This is why the toxic server has only 50 people playing on it.

Yeah we don't have 200 people playing the EC trader metagame or waiting in line for a camp afk to bolster population numbers here unfortunately. :(

p.s. population more like 250-300

Pringles
11-25-2014, 12:49 PM
That is incredibly unsanitary and doing that would also violate numerous public safety laws. Disgusting.

So is cannibalism, jerk!

defeater
11-25-2014, 12:53 PM
This is why the toxic server has only 50 people playing on it.

Someone didn't do well on Red.

feanan
11-25-2014, 01:45 PM
But what is the actual red stand alone population? Not people playing on both at the same time.

Make playing on both against the rules, and do a repop on both servers at the same time.
Lets see what the true stand alone population of red is.

I think 50 would be quite generous

surron
11-25-2014, 01:52 PM
How will adding more mobs to poopsock fix endgame?

this guy gets it...

pras red

Atalya
11-25-2014, 02:13 PM
Why doesn't Red have to help test velious? Just make blue do it and then copy paste files to red after?

kaev
11-25-2014, 02:21 PM
Why doesn't Red have to help test velious? Just make blue do it and then copy paste files to red after?

Red requires extreme measures like its absurdly large and 100% non-classic xp bonus to keep it from withering away. Staff is probably worried that if they closed it for 3 days it would never recover. So be nice to those poor fellows on the short bus, er, I mean red server, during this blessed holiday season. They need all the kindness you can spare them.

Glenzig
11-25-2014, 02:24 PM
Red requires extreme measures like its absurdly large and 100% non-classic xp bonus to keep it from withering away. Staff is probably worried that if they closed it for 3 days it would never recover. So be nice to those poor fellows on the short bus, er, I mean red server, during this blessed holiday season. They need all the kindness you can spare them.

Thanks pal.

Glenzig
11-25-2014, 02:26 PM
But what is the actual red stand alone population? Not people playing on both at the same time.

Make playing on both against the rules, and do a repop on both servers at the same time.
Lets see what the true stand alone population of red is.

I think 50 would be quite generous

So wait. People sitting in ec, or waiting inline for a camp, or waiting on a respawn would count toward blue and against red? How do you figure that?

Byrjun
11-25-2014, 02:55 PM
Thread of quests/recipes that need confirmation: http://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=157067

There are a number of beta testers across half a dozen guilds that can help summon mobs or reset them. If you coordinate with the server staff/devs, they can jump on beta during your schedule raid and help do mass buffs or #kill of trash.

I've had 3 uncompleted quest turn ins ready to turn in for over a month but the quest NPCs have PHs. I haven't been able to get the quest NPCs spawned. There's never actual GM characters online.

:(

Trebeh
11-25-2014, 02:57 PM
Been wanting to try Rift and looks like this weekend will be the one to try it out.

Ele
11-25-2014, 03:02 PM
For extra immersion, Rogean should turn off the teleporting gnomes.

Yumyums Inmahtumtums
11-25-2014, 03:44 PM
Holo crootin

Portasaurus
11-25-2014, 03:46 PM
Holo crootin

http://s8.postimg.org/en5iw13at/hollowcrouton.jpg

feanan
11-25-2014, 04:11 PM
So wait. People sitting in ec, or waiting inline for a camp, or waiting on a respawn would count toward blue and against red? How do you figure that?

no, thats why you have the repops. To see which server is their "main"

Anyway, we don't actually need to do this...we shall see it in action when velious drops.

Glenzig
11-25-2014, 04:24 PM
no, thats why you have the repops. To see which server is their "main"

Anyway, we don't actually need to do this...we shall see it in action when velious drops.

Why is that even an issue? If they play both, then they play both.

Whirled
11-25-2014, 04:56 PM
http://assets.diylol.com/hfs/390/0a9/16d/resized/business-cat-meme-generator-business-i-think-you-ll-find-this-thread-fucking-means-it-789d92.jpg

Sampten
11-25-2014, 05:38 PM
Starting on Friday, November 28th* and lasting until Monday, December 1st* we will be shutting down** the Project 1999 Blue*** Server to encourage a Forced Beta Test on the Velious Beta Server. We ask that all players spend their time on Beta to help complete as much testing and bug reporting as possible.

* Exact Start and End times are not known.
** The server itself may remain up to facilitate beta copies but will not be available for play.
*** The red server will remain open.

We plan to have a mechanism in place to perform a beta copy during this time but we recommend that you do a beta copy ahead of time anyways.

Also keep in mind that boxing is allowed on the Beta server.

Thanks.

Rogean,

What exactly do you want tested?

What's the plan, if you don't mind me asking? Without some sort of direction, and plan, I don't see what this will actually accomplish.

Do you want tradeskills tested? If so which ones?

Quests? Same thing?

Pathing/zoning issues? Okay where and what?

Where do we post if and when we find a bug/problem?

I'm slightly baffled by this. Well rather, I'm baffled by the timing. I understand the need for Beta testers, but usually there's a plan in place as to what needs to be tested and based on your post from this morning there's no direction as far as testing goes. Could you possibly elaborate a bit more?

captnamazing
11-25-2014, 05:57 PM
Please shut down Red also! Concentrate the effort of p99 players!!

Ele
11-25-2014, 06:01 PM
Rogean,

What exactly do you want tested?

What's the plan, if you don't mind me asking? Without some sort of direction, and plan, I don't see what this will actually accomplish.

Do you want tradeskills tested? If so which ones?

Quests? Same thing?

Pathing/zoning issues? Okay where and what?

http://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=157067

Where do we post if and when we find a bug/problem?

http://www.project1999.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=47

Portasaurus
11-25-2014, 06:06 PM
Is there actually any concrete, communicable logic in keeping the red server open during this?

If the intention of this whole thing is to force people to test velious beta by removing their usual P99 experience, why are you intentionally offering a [debatably] viable alternative to beta?

Are you trying on purpose to keep the penal colony open to prevent ..... certain people ...... from mucking up the testing experience? I guess that would make sense, but it would be helpful (and entertaining) to hear that clarified by the staff.

anotherfiz
11-25-2014, 06:16 PM
why are people who do not play on red... worried about what happens on red?

Rivthis
11-25-2014, 07:29 PM
why are people who do not play on blue... worried about what happens on blue?

;)

GnashingOfTeeth
11-25-2014, 08:42 PM
If you shut down BOTH servers, I will beta test my ass off, raid, play gems and dork around in EC.
If you dont shut down both.

I will play something else.

Bazia
11-25-2014, 09:03 PM
who gives a fuck if the 8 of us on red are playing

so childish jesus

Zalaerian
11-25-2014, 11:25 PM
im gonna log in red all next week like im grandhog fucking phil to promote another 3 years of kunark

jstnhickey
11-26-2014, 12:07 AM
So how do you get a char on beta? Is there a how-to I'm not seeing? My main is only 38 so I can't do much in velious.

Itap
11-26-2014, 12:15 AM
So how do you get a char on beta? Is there a how-to I'm not seeing? My main is only 38 so I can't do much in velious.

log into blue server, type /beta, then type /beta again. Log into Beta server, and ask banker to beta buff you; instant lvl 60 with BiS gear

salimoneus
11-26-2014, 12:32 AM
I'd be curious to see how a policy like "when Velious goes live you can keep a single item from your beta character for your love character" would go.


Yea, because people don't have nearly enough loot from farming the server for years :rolleyes:

Magnar
11-26-2014, 01:20 AM
log into blue server, type /beta, then type /beta again. Log into Beta server, and ask banker to beta buff you; instant lvl 60 with BiS gear

No, not BiS gear...I believe the beta buff gear was itemized off of morons playing on red. PvP centric gear to test PvE content...good call on that one.

justin2090
11-26-2014, 01:22 AM
My Iksar necro was beta buffed into ... a gnome .. srsly

Itap
11-26-2014, 01:30 AM
No, not BiS gear...I believe the beta buff gear was itemized off of morons playing on red. PvP centric gear to test PvE content...good call on that one.

You sure? I'm almost positive a Warrior I beta buffed had BiS, or damn near close to it. Also had a bag full of resist gear. Perhaps only certain characters are lacking?

Randy
11-26-2014, 02:15 AM
my selfishness dislikes this idea. i am guessing a bunch of casual players, like myself, were looking forward to the extra time with the holiday to play. I don't see the added value in doing it now, players like me are useless in testing. I'm un-guilded, I don't have enough guaranteed time to test any involved quest. I don't think there is any benefit to doing it over the holiday weekend as oppose to any other week.

Whatever. I know I'm wasting my time, this is their thing and they do a great job at it. Best of luck with this.

Deadlyfury
11-26-2014, 05:34 AM
It's well worth the wait and I think everyone should just stop your bitching and either help out with the testing, or eagerly await the re-opening of the servers :D god the amount of down time that used to happen on live (trust me I know as I am from Australia) and it was ALWAYS during my peak time, I haven't had any downtime since playing for the last 4 months

You guys rock, keep making this an awesome experience to re-live and I can't wait till Velious drops!!!!

Nicoladen
11-26-2014, 05:41 AM
bah double post - look below

Dany
11-26-2014, 06:28 AM
I'll come and help test as much as possible! Can't wait for velious!

Nicoladen
11-26-2014, 06:49 AM
/cry
Just discovered the server a week ago and I'm trying to catch up :D
Lvl 24 atm and I really dont care much for a velious anytime soon - I still want to enjoy vanilly+Kunark.
It would be cool if you could just add a restriction, so accounts with lvl 60's on them are only able to log on to beta.
Then the newbies like myself can continue to work on their tiny toons. OR let us carry over the xp made in beta, to the P99 live server.
If not, then I guess my wife will be happy about me fixing that sliding door she's been bugging me to make her :D
GF faction = More playtime + occasional "quality time"
- gotta min/max right? :D

Tunguska
11-26-2014, 09:30 AM
I've been trying to get in to beta but keep getting stuck with the messages in the character selection slots that say I don't have the latest spell files. Any suggestions? My steps so far were:

1. Make a copy of the EQ directory I use to log in to blue/red
2. Update the spell file in that directory using the link found in the beta thread
3. Use the /beta command twice on one of my existing chars
4. Log in to the EQ beta directory (yes, I make sure everything points to that directory)

What am I doing wrong?

Thanks.

Kelor
11-26-2014, 12:10 PM
Getting exactly same problem here. How do I completely delete Duxi UI? could it be that?

Feanol
11-26-2014, 12:35 PM
I've got to say I'm pretty surprised by the content of this thread. I seem to remember a time on the forums where people would simply post the word "Velious" in threads without context.

There were threads posted weekly with a variety of ways to phrase "When is Velious coming?"

And now that you're literally being forced to come to the Velious continent and explore the new lands you've all been begging for, the only thing the community can think of to do is try and convince the staff to disable a small PvP server being left online purely out of spite?

Tsk tsk, how the times have changed.

Nuktari
11-26-2014, 01:04 PM
You sure? I'm almost positive a Warrior I beta buffed had BiS, or damn near close to it. Also had a bag full of resist gear. Perhaps only certain characters are lacking?

I know for sure the SK template is based off someone on red. (the gear was mostly resist items, and the spell book gave it away, Shadowstep on the first page ;)

heartbrand
11-26-2014, 02:13 PM
You sure? I'm almost positive a Warrior I beta buffed had BiS, or damn near close to it. Also had a bag full of resist gear. Perhaps only certain characters are lacking?

Thanks for the complement. I wish I had known when they were copying and I would have filled my bags with all the stuff in my bank as well. Oh well.

Ele
11-26-2014, 02:36 PM
I've been trying to get in to beta but keep getting stuck with the messages in the character selection slots that say I don't have the latest spell files. Any suggestions? My steps so far were:

1. Make a copy of the EQ directory I use to log in to blue/red
2. Update the spell file in that directory using the link found in the beta thread
3. Use the /beta command twice on one of my existing chars
4. Log in to the EQ beta directory (yes, I make sure everything points to that directory)

What am I doing wrong?

Thanks.

Getting exactly same problem here. How do I completely delete Duxi UI? could it be that?

Beta and Live are using the same spell file at the moment. Just use the same install for now.

Frieza_Prexus
11-26-2014, 02:55 PM
Was the betabuff enchanter ever fixed? I was wearing Trak PR gear when they copied me, and it turned out...shitty.

Itap
11-26-2014, 04:14 PM
Thanks for the complement. I wish I had known when they were copying and I would have filled my bags with all the stuff in my bank as well. Oh well.

anytime HB

Dragonsblood1987
11-26-2014, 04:33 PM
The sooner you do this the sooner you get Velious.

velious is a myth used to control EC tunnel prices for the RMTers

Cookiefist
11-26-2014, 06:13 PM
Whose up for beta testing kunark pixels?

Huc11
11-26-2014, 07:25 PM
Let me start off by saying I understand the reasoning for this, but more than a couple days notice would be nice. I am relatively new to p99, and a month ago I had planned a p99 LAN party for this weekend. I had planned to help powerlevel some friends who do not have much time to play. Just really bad timing for me. Not a huge fan of Velious. I may help beta test it, but my friends who are even more limited in their free time will probably be doing something else this weekend. Some exact times on the server downtime would be appreciated. Thanks.

Also a big thank you for bringing this server to life.

Uuruk
11-26-2014, 10:32 PM
Picks holiday weekend where people are off work and might want to just relax.

Oleris
11-26-2014, 11:21 PM
can we confirm or deny that Velious will be out before the new year?

Deadlyfury
11-26-2014, 11:24 PM
Try to remember as well guys the GM s and devs are volunteering there own time, so this is the perfect time for them to make sure they are all free.

They are giving up their holidays too and not playing games

Shinko
11-26-2014, 11:34 PM
word on the street is jan 1st 2016

Speaker
11-27-2014, 12:04 AM
Why play on red? When I can test out Velious, red offers blue players nothing. We have no interest in pvp.

Aviann
11-27-2014, 12:20 AM
If some want to go and be prey to the twinks on red this weekend, let them. Its better we have the ones with a good neurological process having fun in Snowland.

On a lighter note, is it ok to beta as many characters as possible? If so, what levels would actually matter? I know that a friend of mine on live stayed there from 2-50ish... but I don't wish to be killing snow bunnies. Anyone have any idea of the level for the most quests still questionable? I think I would enjoy playing the low end of velious first.

Bold is TL:DR

Nilstoniakrath
11-27-2014, 01:15 AM
Nice, screw the casual players who finally have a full day or two to play by doing this on a holiday weekend, instead of during the week. If it had been during the week, one night, I would have gladly tested it. Instead, I will find some other game to play, where whatever I end up doing will not be wiped out in a few months. Good luck, and yes, I know, its a free game, no hard feelings long term and hope Velious goes live sometime soon.

Deadlyfury
11-27-2014, 02:28 AM
Nice, screw the casual players who finally have a full day or two to play by doing this on a holiday weekend, instead of during the week. If it had been during the week, one night, I would have gladly tested it. Instead, I will find some other game to play, where whatever I end up doing will not be wiped out in a few months. Good luck, and yes, I know, its a free game, no hard feelings long term and hope Velious goes live sometime soon.

Yeah great one mate, have a dig then say no hard feelings, they can't cater to everyone and are doing what they can, they don't need negativity like this... go complain somewhere else...

SamwiseRed
11-27-2014, 06:35 AM
if you dont beta test, you get banned.

Fanguru
11-27-2014, 07:02 AM
It could be nice to have Velious released earlier without raid content.
This would give people time to get their skyshrine key, get their bearings, and start getting some armor from Kael trash.

quido
11-27-2014, 12:16 PM
Could we maybe leave EC up on blue so we could facilitate people trying red transferring some plat or getting some starter gear please?

Speaker
11-27-2014, 02:14 PM
You can play your current level on Velious or go to the No Rio and get beta buffed to L-60 + gear.

Serious people, the developers are putting a lot of time creating this game, its free to you, at least help out for one-weekend, your helping all members of the game.

Deadlyfury
11-27-2014, 03:30 PM
Could we maybe leave EC up on blue so we could facilitate people trying red transferring some plat or getting some starter gear please?

Not sure if srs or just troll...

nerdbobbo
11-27-2014, 05:16 PM
I am a new player, & I have noticed a little bit of information regarding how to get a character over to beta and possibly buffed? To level 60 with level appropriate gear?

Can someone possibly do a more detailed instruction on how to do both of these things, possibly start a new thread and sticky it for this weekend's beta only event?

thank you,

Kaezyr - level 5 Dark Elf Shadow Knight (P99 blue server)

Nisei
11-27-2014, 05:31 PM
So, we still don't know what time it starts and ends? Fantastic.

Ele
11-27-2014, 07:29 PM
So, we still don't know what time it starts and ends? Fantastic.

Just keep playing until the server comes down. No worries.

fastboy21
11-27-2014, 08:10 PM
Just keep playing until the server comes down. No worries.

werd

krforrester
11-27-2014, 10:22 PM
I've been trying to get in to beta but keep getting stuck with the messages in the character selection slots that say I don't have the latest spell files. Any suggestions? My steps so far were:

1. Make a copy of the EQ directory I use to log in to blue/red
2. Update the spell file in that directory using the link found in the beta thread
3. Use the /beta command twice on one of my existing chars
4. Log in to the EQ beta directory (yes, I make sure everything points to that directory)

What am I doing wrong?

Thanks.

You got further than I did. Where exactly is the Velious thread with the instructions for logging into the beta? I cannot even find a thread that tells you to make a copy of your EQ directory etc.

Nilstoniakrath
11-27-2014, 10:49 PM
You got further than I did. Where exactly is the Velious thread with the instructions for logging into the beta? I cannot even find a thread that tells you to make a copy of your EQ directory etc.

You don't need to copy files over or any thing like that. Just type /beta twice while logged in to the normal server, and that character is copied over to the Velious beta. Then just log on to the Velious server and your character should be available for testing.

krforrester
11-27-2014, 11:21 PM
You don't need to copy files over or any thing like that. Just type /beta twice while logged in to the normal server, and that character is copied over to the Velious beta. Then just log on to the Velious server and your character should be available for testing.

I tried that but get the same error listed by Tunguska. That's why I figured I was doing something wrong.

Thulack
11-27-2014, 11:54 PM
I tried that but get the same error listed by Tunguska. That's why I figured I was doing something wrong.

Your issue is you dont need to copy any beta files to play on it. Log into blue do /beta twice then log to server select screen and choose beta server and log in.

Tunguska
11-28-2014, 08:59 AM
Log into blue do /beta twice then log to server select screen and choose beta server and log in.

This worked for me....thanks!

Ele
11-28-2014, 08:59 AM
Beta and live use the same patch file at the moment!

mangobob
11-28-2014, 10:43 AM
Will our progress on Beta be saved back to Blue after the Forced Beta ends?

Bill Tetley
11-28-2014, 11:57 AM
why is the blue server still up?! take it down! it's Friday!

Nilstoniakrath
11-28-2014, 12:11 PM
Will our progress on Beta be saved back to Blue after the Forced Beta ends?

No

Pringles
11-28-2014, 01:02 PM
Was the betabuff enchanter ever fixed? I was wearing Trak PR gear when they copied me, and it turned out...shitty.

Dat spellbook.....

Grombar
11-28-2014, 03:37 PM
Can we just start a new toon on beta and get them buffed or not buffed as we choose?

t3kn34k
11-28-2014, 03:51 PM
A+

Please shutdown red also, many saying they'll just play there....
Shut down red for the weekend too.

SamwiseRed
11-28-2014, 04:47 PM
red has some heavy hitting donaters, youll never shut us down bluebies.

jdixon485
11-28-2014, 05:44 PM
i veto the idea of bringing blue down during my thanksgiving break. I do like the proactive progression of pushing velious, but a forced test during a holiday? Meh.......guess its a movie kinda weekend

Ele
11-28-2014, 06:19 PM
Can we just start a new toon on beta and get them buffed or not buffed as we choose?

Can bring your own awesome character from blue or red or use the beta buff.

Lisset
11-28-2014, 08:19 PM
i veto the idea of bringing blue down during my thanksgiving break. I do like the proactive progression of pushing velious, but a forced test during a holiday? Meh.......guess its a movie kinda weekend

This

noleriand
11-28-2014, 09:23 PM
They're doing this FOR US.

Everyone wants Velious, but nobody wants to help with it. Why do people feel entitled to their free P99 experience AND their free Velious?

A time to expect the server to come back up would be super cool though...

Anichek
11-28-2014, 09:31 PM
I can't believe people are selfish enough to only consider their own availability this holiday weekend and complain that this is happening.

Ever consider that maybe the P99 team thinks that this is a good weekend because THEY have time to observe, review reports, action small changes, etc?

Knowing there's a good shot a increased server population over a holiday weekend means more people can work out more bugs - can identify more tweaks that need to happen.

The more proactive we are in testing, the more proactive we are in playing - the FASTER VELIOUS MAY GET RELEASED.

Consider playing on Beta this weekend - and consider it your investment into the successful launch.

Bazia
11-28-2014, 10:03 PM
i dont think any of the 30+ people in this thread complaining care about any of that

Everdark
11-28-2014, 10:39 PM
After velous goes live. Will anything from beta transfer over? I'm only 14 on live. But would happily play beta if my leveling there carries over (even if at a fraction)

magician
11-28-2014, 11:02 PM
year of 2019 or wut?

Funkutron5000
11-28-2014, 11:08 PM
I can't believe people are selfish

You're new to this server, huh Anichek? :P

Twinter
11-28-2014, 11:09 PM
hopefully they may be gracious enough to give us a gift for those who Beta-test. Dunno; all I can say is P99 is free; do your part, test and if it pays off with a gift then cool, if not then atleast you got to see if you want to re-roll or not (free lvl 60 trial).

SaiyanPrince
11-28-2014, 11:35 PM
All i get is unknown class unknown server when i try to get in on BEta??

Taddau
11-28-2014, 11:38 PM
I am trying to get on beta for the weekend, but i have no option to create a character. Makes it a bit hard to play if you cant make a character......

Funkutron5000
11-28-2014, 11:47 PM
Create a toon on red and /beta /beta. Should work!

quido
11-28-2014, 11:48 PM
It only works if you're a beta though

TwoCowz
11-29-2014, 12:07 AM
sad, I can't make a character on Beta and I planned on playing with friends over the weekend.

any way to take (1) server character to beta server and keep anything we may or may not do tonight, if we ever get on that is ?

IanelarAzure
11-29-2014, 12:09 AM
sad, I can't make a character on Beta and I planned on playing with friends over the weekend.

any way to take (1) server character to beta server and keep anything we may or may not do tonight, if we ever get on that is ?

Create one on Red and type /beta twice to copy it.

TwoCowz
11-29-2014, 12:12 AM
a new character ?

OriginalQin
11-29-2014, 12:13 AM
Awesome. Long days with family with the glimmer of hope that I could at least relax and play EQ a bit when it was over. I don't even want Velious and dread its release. Oh well, gotta break the habit somehow.

Anichek
11-29-2014, 12:15 AM
You're new to this server, huh Anichek? :P

Lol sup Corova! Just trying to get people motivated to beta hard this weekend!

Funkutron5000
11-29-2014, 12:18 AM
We have almost 70 people going hard in the paint in Sleeper's Tomb right now!

Morphyus
11-29-2014, 12:27 AM
Greetings Norrathians!

Is it comepletely outrages to think that people playing here acctually just love playing good old EverQuest Classic (+ Kunark)..? Hell, I love the true EQ Classic (Vanilla if you like) with no Kunark. Is it not the essence of the ”Project” - a dream of playing EverQuest while it was cool and just keep it at that?


Some side questions just out of curiosity:

Will Project1999 haft to change name now..?

Will it stop with Velious or is the plan to try make some kind of dejavuu and try recreate Sony's work by dumbing EQ down one expansion at the time? There will come a time where someone gets bored with Velious and scream for SoL, PoP, GoD ect. ect.. Hell, maybe Project1999 can even catch up with Sony and make some sort of weird parallel server to current Live EQ with 25+ expansions. Ohh and someday some cool nostalgy people (like I really think you the staff of this project is) can make a Project1999ofProject1999 :-)



These are just the first questions that came to my mind with this forced beta thing and as I hate being forced to anything here in life that made me make my first post on this forum. No hateing just a lot of questions that came to my mind! :-)

And Im just not convinced that it is acctually ALL, that some claime, that wants Velious.


Peace out and I will keep loving and donating to the Project1999, but while you all rush to Velious I enjoy my beloved Norrath with no Lizards expect those in Lost Temple of Cazic Thule :-)

PS: If I can just share one wish, please never ever repeat Sony's biggest mistake of all and start revamping old zones! :-D

Phrenze
11-29-2014, 01:35 AM
Standing on his toes to get his attention i say: Hail
He gives me options for beta buff, list of quest items, and faction.
I repeatedly try several of the required responses he expects of me to perform his duties.

NOTHING HAPPENS.

I am Ginsing and i am logging back in to bang my head against his knees if anyone wants to help...

Jeisenne
11-29-2014, 01:51 AM
The beta buff turned me into a gnome. A GNOME.

I am normally a dark elf that goes around and bites gnomes. This is karma at its worst. I AM NOT PLEASED WITH THIS OUTCOME :P

On the other hand, I do have my duckstick and some pretty nice gear, so at least I got that going for me, which is nice.

This should be fun. Looking forward to testing this weekend.

P.S. If there's any way I can get my bitey, mad lady DE back for the weekend, please let me know. Thanks :)

dbouya
11-29-2014, 02:58 AM
I think kunark is from 2000 and velious is from 2001

Veleria
11-29-2014, 06:42 PM
Standing on his toes to get his attention i say: Hail
He gives me options for beta buff, list of quest items, and faction.
I repeatedly try several of the required responses he expects of me to perform his duties.

NOTHING HAPPENS.

I am Ginsing and i am logging back in to bang my head against his knees if anyone wants to help...

1: Target the Beta Banker NPC
2: Stand very close
3: /say beta buff me
4: If you need to buy velious spells from the other Beta gnome merchants sell all your gear to one of them then repeat steps 1-3. your coin will remain and all gear will be replaced.
5: Buy the 4 beta wands that are on the merchants.
6: Go testing and report bugs on the beta test forums.

salimoneus
11-29-2014, 08:15 PM
1: Target the Beta Banker NPC
2: Stand very close
3: /say beta buff me
4: If you need to buy velious spells from the other Beta gnome merchants sell all your gear to one of them then repeat steps 1-3. your coin will remain and all gear will be replaced.
5: Buy the 4 beta wands that are on the merchants.
6: Go testing and report bugs on the beta test forums.

^ That was the part that tripped me up at first, you need to be almost standing on top of the banker for the beta buff to work.

mycoolrausch
11-30-2014, 07:50 AM
Greetings Norrathians!

Is it comepletely outrages to think that people playing here acctually just love playing good old EverQuest Classic (+ Kunark)..? Hell, I love the true EQ Classic (Vanilla if you like) with no Kunark. Is it not the essence of the ”Project” - a dream of playing EverQuest while it was cool and just keep it at that?


Some side questions just out of curiosity:

Will Project1999 haft to change name now..?

Will it stop with Velious or is the plan to try make some kind of dejavuu and try recreate Sony's work by dumbing EQ down one expansion at the time? There will come a time where someone gets bored with Velious and scream for SoL, PoP, GoD ect. ect.. Hell, maybe Project1999 can even catch up with Sony and make some sort of weird parallel server to current Live EQ with 25+ expansions. Ohh and someday some cool nostalgy people (like I really think you the staff of this project is) can make a Project1999ofProject1999 :-)



These are just the first questions that came to my mind with this forced beta thing and as I hate being forced to anything here in life that made me make my first post on this forum. No hateing just a lot of questions that came to my mind! :-)

And Im just not convinced that it is acctually ALL, that some claime, that wants Velious.


Peace out and I will keep loving and donating to the Project1999, but while you all rush to Velious I enjoy my beloved Norrath with no Lizards expect those in Lost Temple of Cazic Thule :-)

PS: If I can just share one wish, please never ever repeat Sony's biggest mistake of all and start revamping old zones! :-D

I'm pretty sure it stops at velious. I think when 99% of people talk about Classic EQ they mean the "original trilogy" (vanilla, kunark, velious). There must be very few people who straight up have a strong preference for vanilla and only vanilla. After all, the design direction of EQ changed very little between the 3 expansions, with them only adding content rather than dumbing the game down.

tom229
11-30-2014, 11:09 AM
So, let me get this straight. This is a forced test of an expansion that released post 1999. It is being done over a long weekend. And finally, no experience gains will be saved.

As a level 15 what am I supposed to test? If dying works in the new zones? Why is Velious even been deployed on a server called project 1999? And finally, why is this being done over the worst possible time: a long weekend?

I really really don't understand anything about this decision.

Darkhath
11-30-2014, 11:26 AM
Obviously I failed the IQ test, I have tried to use one of my existing characters on Blue DISCONNECTED
made a new character on Blue DISCONNECTED
logged into red server and type /beta /beta on a lvl 1 character I had there and got the message that says it works "get to testing" but where is the copy of this character, not in my list on the Blue server
????

Everything I have done so far only results in me being disconnected, wanted to try to help test this but I missed some memo or maybe it was not for everyone like I thought.

Darkhath
11-30-2014, 11:33 AM
I see, the secret is to come here, post a message making you look like a dork and then you can see that you are trying to log into the wrong server, you should be logging into the BETA - Velious Preferred Server. And there are all those characters I created in my abortive attempts to log into the Blue server. FML

Blasted
11-30-2014, 01:10 PM
So, let me get this straight. This is a forced test of an expansion that released post 1999. It is being done over a long weekend. And finally, no experience gains will be saved.

As a level 15 what am I supposed to test? If dying works in the new zones? Why is Velious even been deployed on a server called project 1999? And finally, why is this being done over the worst possible time: a long weekend?



Probably because the server population as a whole has made a piss-poor beta testing effort, as if there is someone else who's going to do it for them.

The server staff has been asking the regular players -- most of which have been complaining about wanting velious for literal years now -- to get on beta and test things. A couple of hundred out of a few thousand that likely play here have contributed. Devs need data to make sure shit works properly, and an inside team of a dozen people is not going to get it done.

Are you level 15? Do you feel like your presence on beta makes no impact, because you're not killing dragons? Think of it this way: Even if you just log on and sit there, at the very least, you're stress-testing the hardware.

tl;dr: They need everybody they can get to log on and just do stuff. Now go do stuff!

Jeisenne
11-30-2014, 02:47 PM
Obviously I failed the IQ test, I have tried to use one of my existing characters on Blue DISCONNECTED
made a new character on Blue DISCONNECTED
logged into red server and type /beta /beta on a lvl 1 character I had there and got the message that says it works "get to testing" but where is the copy of this character, not in my list on the Blue server
????

Everything I have done so far only results in me being disconnected, wanted to try to help test this but I missed some memo or maybe it was not for everyone like I thought.

It's meant to do that. You will get disconnected after making your toons on blue (or trying to log on to them).

Now log back in, click on the velious beta server, and you'll see them on the character select screen. Log in, target one of the mutant large gnomes, and /say Beta buff me.

Enjoy :)

Sirken
11-30-2014, 02:52 PM
Velious is the last planned expansion, its important to all of us that it is pristine. theres a reason no other eqemu server has ever had a legit classic Velious.

Velious is 35+ content anybody of any level can beta test Velious. there are NPCs for levels, factions, gear, ports, literally anything u could want to make it easier to test.

dont feel like testing? go outside.


but dont come here and cry that a bunch of volunteers that do this as a hobby in their spare time, are asking the people that benefit from that work to also chip in a bit of time

kohatsuk
11-30-2014, 05:09 PM
My only concern with the forced Beta is that there seems to be a lack of direction. If you want things tested let us know? I am sure there are things you know are correct and somethings that are not. More involvement with your community can produce better results!!!

Aussie
11-30-2014, 05:54 PM
My only concern with the forced Beta is that there seems to be a lack of direction. If you want things tested let us know? I am sure there are things you know are correct and somethings that are not. More involvement with your community can produce better results!!!

There has been plenty of direction, check the velious area of the forums.

But this weekend, we just want you to play in velious, do anything and take note of things that seem odd or not right.

Spell animations, cast times, mob resists, EVERYTHING!!!