Possible to run on a mac?

[Daakkon]

if so is there a guide anywhere?

[Blancah]

Bootcamp/Parallels or something of the like running windows is the only way to play on a mac I believe.

[Daakkon]

Do you know of a guide? I don't know mac's at all. :/

[Blancah]

Boot Camp:
http://lifehacker.com/384256/have-your-mac-and-windows-too-with-boot-camp

Parallels:
http://lifehacker.com/201451/hack-attack-side+by+side-windows-and-mac-os-with-parallels

[Daakkon]

thank you!

[Tork]

Holy christ - if you get it up and going smoothly, please let me know - I had no luck.

I could get EQ to run, that's not the problem - the problem was *massive* CPU consumption. If you check the tail end of the multi CPU sticky thread, you'll see a bunch of things we tried (without success).

A summary: Bootcamp and VM Fusion 3 exhibited massive CPU consumption with the Ti client, occasional black screen lock up on zoning. Crossover (Wine derivative) couldn't start the Ti client.

Very, very frustrating experience - I now play P1999 on a 3 year old plain Jane Dell laptop with Vista, and it works like a champ.

[Crash]

I play without issue every night on my 3 year old Macbook.

I had a lot of trouble getting it to run in Fusion, it would load up and everything but with a lot of resources being consumed by emulating the OS it couldn't make EQ anywhere near playable.

Check out Apple's site (or just search for "boot camp") and follow the guide for installing Windows as it's own separate partition. A 10GB partition is plenty of space (for XP, anyways) and EQ runs great.

[Tork]

I should have been more specific - I've tried bootcamp, bootcamp+fusion, fusion - all maxed out resources on an i7 OSX. It's clearly not that EQ's resource intensive (I can run it on a netbook...), but some artifact of coding which plays havoc with newer multicore CPUs.

[Gawain]

I do it fine on parellels on my new 27" iMac. What are you running into problems with?

[Samuel]

I play on a mac, using boot camp. I tried using parallels, but it didn't seem to support any graphics card, so character models were all grey etc. Did you have to do something to work around that, Gawain?

[Tork]

Hi Gawain - what CPU do you have in your iMac, and when you pull up activity monitor, what's your CPU utilization look like?

Here's results from before:
Launch = good.
Login = good.
Server Select = good.
Character Select = good.

Initial Zone load = good, but CPU usage starts going crazy, 24-70% on all cores of the i7
Secondary Zone load = lengthy, wifi on computer crashes - if using ethernet, CPU usage continues to escalate.

Fans kick in like a jet landing - I chicken out and /quit.

If I attempt to zone a 3rd time, black screen crash.


Things I've tried:

I:
Bootcamp+Win7U - no change.
Bootcamp+Win7U+run as admin - no change.
Bootcamp+Win7U+shortcut with start/affinity/low - no change.
Bootcamp+Win7U+moved out of Program Files and to Users/ - no change.

II:
WinEQ2 Lite + I - no change.

III:
VM Fusion + I - no change.
VM Fusion + II - no change.

IV:
VM Fusion constrained to 1 CPU - no change (all cores tach out in underlying OSX).
VM Fusion constrained to 1 CPU + I - same as above.
VM Fusion constrained to 1 CPU + II - same as above.

V:
DX9c - no change.
DX9c + I-IV - no change, no change, no change, no change.

[corradojeff]

Tork, I know with Afinity and also with bootcomp+VMware you can set how many cores to use and such but have you tried using bootcamp and a 32bit version of Win XP?

I have the 2.43ghz Macbook Pro CoreDuo. I installed bootcamp with 15GB partition and put a "Lite" version of XP on it. I used the Mac OSX disk for all of the dirvers I needed. Installed EQ Ti client and followed setup intructions and it works great. I dont have to set afinity or my core usage in bootcamp utilies.

[Mcbard]

I play on a bootcamp partition running Windows 7 x64 and haven't noticed any problems. Just bought my Macbook pro a couple of weeks ago, so it's pretty new. Hope that helps!

[Gawain]

The only problems i had wa swhen I had the display too small or too big. I adjusted it so it filled my parallel window and it worked fine. Actually its pretty damn awesome.
I run some programs on my mac Os all the time while im playing without the slightest hiccup.

[Gawain]

Honestly it took a lot of tweeking, i can look into it and see what I have as the graphics card.

[Daakkon]

Would be nice if there was a guide on how to do it :/

[Daakkon]

shameless bump...if anybody can write up a guide, or know of a guide could they post it please? I would really love a nice simple guide to get it running on a macbook.

[Mcbard]

It's not really that complicated of a procedure, but I'll lay it out as best I can.

First, you need to install Windows onto your Mac. In case you don't already know how to do that, a quick Google search should net you a bunch of results. Since it's free, I think that most people end up just going with a bootcamp installation. There are a ton of guides you can use, below is the one I followed.

http://www.simplehelp.net/2009/01/15/using-boot-camp-to-install-windows-7-on-your-mac-the-complete-walkthrough/

After you have your installation of Windows up and running, follow the installation directions given on the project 1999's setup guide word for word. Link for that is below.

http://www.project1999.org/forums/showthread.php?t=2651

After that is completed the game should run fine. Most likely though you may notice issues with your character or other game elements running slow. This is most likely due to the game client freaking out about your modern multi-core processor. I ended up having to follow tips from the below thread to get that issue cleared up:

http://www.project1999.org/forums/showthread.php?t=3609

[Tork]

I've got it to a playable state now with one hiccup: the mouselook is super sensative/super choppy.

Anyhow, here's what I did:
VM Fusion3+XPSP3 - I played with a ton of different combinations using CPUPalette.app and F3's CPU/RAM settings - ironically, setting the VM to 4 CPUs and leaving on all 4 cores yielded a very playable game FPS capped at 50, but it was just soaking up too many resources. If I drop FPS down to 10, my CPU usage goes to almost nothing - so I compromised with 24 FPS, and with the exception of the mouselook, it's ok.

I also turned off all the pixel shaders, advanced lighting and shadows. I personally can't tell much of a difference with the shaders, so no big loss and I never liked advanced lighting, so that's no loss either - but after all these years of wanting a powerhouse computer to run shadows flawlesslessly, I finally have one - and it still can't do shadows. =P

I nuked my bootcamp sector, I might redo that at some later date and see if I can get things going smoother - EQ, as I recall, was never very CPU constrained, but rather GPU constrainted, and so that's why it's equal parts baffeling and frustrating I can't get it to 'just work.'

[Tork]

Fixed mouse look (with VM Fusion 3):

Open up VM Fusion, then go to VM Fusion-Preferences...->General

Under Gaming: dropdown, select "Always optimize mouse for games."

[Skeptical]

Is there a way to get this working on a Mac w/o a copy of windows?

[Skeptical]

I got bootcamp and windows XP up and operational. Installed EQ Titanium per the setup guide. When i try to log into the server I get the connection to the server could not be reached. I know there are issues with multi-core processors, but would they make it so I couldn't log in?
I think I covered all the stupid fixes. I reinstalled as well to no avail.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks

[Mcbard]

Is there a way to get this working on a Mac w/o a copy of windows?

Virutalize linux then use wine? Honestly though, don't ever do that. Install Windows.

[Mcbard]

I got bootcamp and windows XP up and operational. Installed EQ Titanium per the setup guide. When i try to log into the server I get the connection to the server could not be reached. I know there are issues with multi-core processors, but would they make it so I couldn't log in?
I think I covered all the stupid fixes. I reinstalled as well to no avail.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks

You changed your eqhosts file to point at the correct server?

[SlankyLanky]

solution: get a pc, having a mac might make you awesome to stupid college girls who think the lulz guy from the commercials is hot, or maybe at your 9-5 gig at the office where you can compare how supperior you mac users are to pc people. but pc's are better, prove me wrong. preferably in eq, oh shit you cant play because you have a mac lulz.

[jamsen]

I play in Parallels Desktop 6 without many problems. EQ's gamma correction is the only feature that doesn't work but you can use Mac OS X's Display Preferences to calibrate the gamma point (turn on advanced settings when going into Display Calibration.)

I've played under Bootcamp w/ XP too but I dislike having to boot into Windows.

Jamsen

[Ishio]

solution: get a pc, having a mac might make you awesome to stupid college girls who think the lulz guy from the commercials is hot, or maybe at your 9-5 gig at the office where you can compare how supperior you mac users are to pc people. but pc's are better, prove me wrong. preferably in eq, oh shit you cant play because you have a mac lulz.

This is so wrong on so many levels. Not everyone who buys a mac thinks OMG i am so leet with my mac, and you are so ghey with your PC. Why are Mac's better in ways, and I am firm on the "in ways," is that they are a more stable computer. The operating system is more stable in so many ways it's not even funny. I own a MacBook Pro, AND a custom Gaming Windows 7 Desktop machine. I use my Macbook for school, as the battery gets me up to 7 hours of life. Also for gaming it does very well with bootcamp. My desktop, I use to play graphic intensive games like Fallout New Vegas. I don't wish to warp and burn my motherboard on my laptop so I don't game heavily on it.

Generally since I can dual boot, OSX and Windows 7 on my mac (something PC's can't do easily), I was able to run some tests for my own knowledge. First off, boot times from a cold start, OSX is up in 40seconds. Windows 7, 1min 30. iTunes opens up in OSX in about 10s while in Windows 7, it opens in 24s. Steam opens in about 14s in OSX and 38s in Windows 7. World of Warcraft, I used this because I can't run the same EQ client in both games and it's a good measurement for lag and frame rates, run at Medium on both, OSX ~40-60fps, Windows 7 ~20-30. Both are playable, yet in OSX I have flexibility to add more options and still be a higher FPS than Win7.

Basically what this means is that OSX, the way it was programed optimizes the components a lot better than Windows 7 does. It boosts the CPU and Ram when needed and idles them when it doesn't need them as much. You might think well that's great for saving energy and great on battery life but not much more. No, it also prolongs the life of your components because there is less of a load on them so they have time to relax.

Get over the whole Mac sucks because it's a college student laptop and it's just to be apart of a stupid club. No, not everyone is all OMG OMG OMG I have to have this shinny computer and pay out the ass for it. Yes, mac is expensive, but I felt my laptop was well worth the price. I have never owned a computer I can rely on, and I have owned many windows machines.

MacBook Pro: 2.8GHz Core 2 Duo, 4GB ram, 500GB 5,400 RPM HDD, 9800GT v-card 512MB *bench tests used the 9800GT as windows by defaults turns this dedicated card on*
Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit, Mac OSX latest 10.6 edition.

Get out of your mindset. Let people make their decisions. I use my laptop, as I said, for school. I'm going for a Web Design and Interactive Media degree, so I use adobe's programs which run amazingly on it. I can render in Photoshop so quickly, Illustrator which always gave me problems on my desktop, runs perfectly on my mac.

Just because someone prefers a mac over a PC doesn't mean they suck or are losers. My opinions here are in the middle. I prefer to use my Mac for school, and I use my Desktop to play games. If someone wants to use their mac and run Bootcamp, because that option is available, let them.

[Mcbard]

Generally since I can dual boot, OSX and Windows 7 on my mac (something PC's can't do easily), I was able to run some tests for my own knowledge. First off, boot times from a cold start, OSX is up in 40seconds. Windows 7, 1min 30. iTunes opens up in OSX in about 10s while in Windows 7, it opens in 24s. Steam opens in about 14s in OSX and 38s in Windows 7. World of Warcraft, I used this because I can't run the same EQ client in both games and it's a good measurement for lag and frame rates, run at Medium on both, OSX ~40-60fps, Windows 7 ~20-30. Both are playable, yet in OSX I have flexibility to add more options and still be a higher FPS than Win7.

In all fairness to Windows though, you aren't running a standard instance of it, and extra things need to load (virtual drivers for one) for Windows to start. You may also have more programs loading at startup, etc. There are many variables that make this test moot.

I've only been a Mac owner for a little over a month, but personally I already dislike the OS (it has no real value to me), but I absolutely love my physical machine. I wish I could have got my Macbook pro shipped with a Windows 7/Fedora 13 dualboot. :(

P.S. The battery life while in Macland is amazing though.

[Ishio]

In all fairness to Windows though, you aren't running a standard instance of it, and extra things need to load (virtual drivers for one) for Windows to start. You may also have more programs loading at startup, etc. There are many variables that make this test moot.

I've only been a Mac owner for a little over a month, but personally I already dislike the OS (it has no real value to me), but I absolutely love my physical machine. I wish I could have got my Macbook pro shipped with a Windows 7/Fedora 13 dualboot. :(

P.S. The battery life while in Macland is amazing though.

Yes you are right, but I start the timing on after I choose the boot from the boot menu. The only thing Win 7 has to start up is the essentials, it's a builders copy so it has no crap ware, plus boot camp. Compared to my desktop it may, MAY add an extra 5 seconds, regardless it's still way slower to load than OSX. There are no "virtual drivers." I'm just loading the real drivers that run the hardware, and make windows start it. It's not like trying to make a hackintosh where you have to get OSX to bypass the fact that there's a chip in the hardware.

Like I said I still prefer to game on my desktop. I use a 20.1" monitor which I prefer over my 15" laptop.

[Muzyn]

This is so wrong on so many levels. Not everyone who buys a mac thinks OMG i am so leet with my mac, and you are so ghey with your PC. Why are Mac's better in ways, and I am firm on the "in ways," is that they are a more stable computer. The operating system is more stable in so many ways it's not even funny. I own a MacBook Pro, AND a custom Gaming Windows 7 Desktop machine. I use my Macbook for school, as the battery gets me up to 7 hours of life. Also for gaming it does very well with bootcamp. My desktop, I use to play graphic intensive games like Fallout New Vegas. I don't wish to warp and burn my motherboard on my laptop so I don't game heavily on it.

Generally since I can dual boot, OSX and Windows 7 on my mac (something PC's can't do easily), I was able to run some tests for my own knowledge. First off, boot times from a cold start, OSX is up in 40seconds. Windows 7, 1min 30. iTunes opens up in OSX in about 10s while in Windows 7, it opens in 24s. Steam opens in about 14s in OSX and 38s in Windows 7. World of Warcraft, I used this because I can't run the same EQ client in both games and it's a good measurement for lag and frame rates, run at Medium on both, OSX ~40-60fps, Windows 7 ~20-30. Both are playable, yet in OSX I have flexibility to add more options and still be a higher FPS than Win7.

Basically what this means is that OSX, the way it was programed optimizes the components a lot better than Windows 7 does. It boosts the CPU and Ram when needed and idles them when it doesn't need them as much. You might think well that's great for saving energy and great on battery life but not much more. No, it also prolongs the life of your components because there is less of a load on them so they have time to relax.

Get over the whole Mac sucks because it's a college student laptop and it's just to be apart of a stupid club. No, not everyone is all OMG OMG OMG I have to have this shinny computer and pay out the ass for it. Yes, mac is expensive, but I felt my laptop was well worth the price. I have never owned a computer I can rely on, and I have owned many windows machines.

MacBook Pro: 2.8GHz Core 2 Duo, 4GB ram, 500GB 5,400 RPM HDD, 9800GT v-card 512MB *bench tests used the 9800GT as windows by defaults turns this dedicated card on*
Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit, Mac OSX latest 10.6 edition.

Get out of your mindset. Let people make their decisions. I use my laptop, as I said, for school. I'm going for a Web Design and Interactive Media degree, so I use adobe's programs which run amazingly on it. I can render in Photoshop so quickly, Illustrator which always gave me problems on my desktop, runs perfectly on my mac.

Just because someone prefers a mac over a PC doesn't mean they suck or are losers. My opinions here are in the middle. I prefer to use my Mac for school, and I use my Desktop to play games. If someone wants to use their mac and run Bootcamp, because that option is available, let them.

Every benchmark ever posted about OSX vs Windows7 3d performance has Win7 simply owning OSX. OSX opengl development is always on the backburner, it is far from optimized and missing many features of it's Windows counterpart. The same goes for video drivers in OSX, they stink. Not to forget you're not even running WoW in opengl but directx mode under Win7.

If you're a student who want's to buy an overpriced laptop with great battery life, get a Mac. If you like to game then don't waste your money and get a PC.

[Ishio]

Every benchmark ever posted about OSX vs Windows7 3d performance has Win7 simply owning OSX. OSX opengl development is always on the backburner, it is far from optimized and missing many features of it's Windows counterpart. The same goes for video drivers in OSX, they stink. Not to forget you're not even running WoW in opengl but directx mode under Win7.

If you're a student who want's to buy an overpriced laptop with great battery life, get a Mac. If you like to game then don't waste your money and get a PC.
Thanks, already said that. Where are these statistics as fast as Win 7 owning OSX? And yeah I compared WoW in Dx vs Open GL it's still a test and stands. Obviously in this case Open GL runs better huh? No, that just makes too much sense.

A mac is not just a computer with a great battery life. Get over that way of thinking. It's a better computer as it runs faster and smoother compared with Win 7. I'm not a fanboy or anything, I'm just stating the facts as I see them.

[SlankyLanky]

This is so wrong on so many levels. Not everyone who buys a mac thinks OMG i am so leet with my mac, and you are so ghey with your PC. Why are Mac's better in ways, and I am firm on the "in ways," is that they are a more stable computer. The operating system is more stable in so many ways it's not even funny. I own a MacBook Pro, AND a custom Gaming Windows 7 Desktop machine. I use my Macbook for school, as the battery gets me up to 7 hours of life. Also for gaming it does very well with bootcamp. My desktop, I use to play graphic intensive games like Fallout New Vegas. I don't wish to warp and burn my motherboard on my laptop so I don't game heavily on it.

Generally since I can dual boot, OSX and Windows 7 on my mac (something PC's can't do easily), I was able to run some tests for my own knowledge. First off, boot times from a cold start, OSX is up in 40seconds. Windows 7, 1min 30. iTunes opens up in OSX in about 10s while in Windows 7, it opens in 24s. Steam opens in about 14s in OSX and 38s in Windows 7. World of Warcraft, I used this because I can't run the same EQ client in both games and it's a good measurement for lag and frame rates, run at Medium on both, OSX ~40-60fps, Windows 7 ~20-30. Both are playable, yet in OSX I have flexibility to add more options and still be a higher FPS than Win7.

Basically what this means is that OSX, the way it was programed optimizes the components a lot better than Windows 7 does. It boosts the CPU and Ram when needed and idles them when it doesn't need them as much. You might think well that's great for saving energy and great on battery life but not much more. No, it also prolongs the life of your components because there is less of a load on them so they have time to relax.

Get over the whole Mac sucks because it's a college student laptop and it's just to be apart of a stupid club. No, not everyone is all OMG OMG OMG I have to have this shinny computer and pay out the ass for it. Yes, mac is expensive, but I felt my laptop was well worth the price. I have never owned a computer I can rely on, and I have owned many windows machines.

MacBook Pro: 2.8GHz Core 2 Duo, 4GB ram, 500GB 5,400 RPM HDD, 9800GT v-card 512MB *bench tests used the 9800GT as windows by defaults turns this dedicated card on*
Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit, Mac OSX latest 10.6 edition.

Get out of your mindset. Let people make their decisions. I use my laptop, as I said, for school. I'm going for a Web Design and Interactive Media degree, so I use adobe's programs which run amazingly on it. I can render in Photoshop so quickly, Illustrator which always gave me problems on my desktop, runs perfectly on my mac.

Just because someone prefers a mac over a PC doesn't mean they suck or are losers. My opinions here are in the middle. I prefer to use my Mac for school, and I use my Desktop to play games. If someone wants to use their mac and run Bootcamp, because that option is available, let them.

i have no fucking clue what any of that means. because im a dumb pc user.

[Ishio]

i have no fucking clue what any of that means. because im a dumb pc user.

http://rofl.wheresthebeef.co.uk/Keep%20on%20Trollin.jpg

[SlankyLanky]

i was being serious...i have no idea what any of that technical stuff means.

[Muzyn]

Thanks, already said that. Where are these statistics as fast as Win 7 owning OSX? And yeah I compared WoW in Dx vs Open GL it's still a test and stands. Obviously in this case Open GL runs better huh? No, that just makes too much sense.

A mac is not just a computer with a great battery life. Get over that way of thinking. It's a better computer as it runs faster and smoother compared with Win 7. I'm not a fanboy or anything, I'm just stating the facts as I see them.

Read it and weep, hipster.

http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=linux_windows_part3&num=1

[jbs89]

I run it on VMWare Fusion flawlessly, they also give u 12 months of McAfee (remember these programs? another reason I love mac)

it used to have issues and I needed to download some patch that other Bootcamp users told me about but zero issues with my fresh bootcamp install.

I recommend buying Windows XP (hated Vista and love OS X)

edit: yes Windows does have a tendency to run games faster, mainly because most games are ported to mac from windows architecture, not made from the ground up for Mac.

People play WOW in Bootcamp because of this, but I much prefer NOT using Windows (I have to pay for Norton or such!!) and the difference is negligible for any native OS X games.


Also using mac doesnt mean your a Hipster... how inane.. I prefer mac because of the simple strong security and easy to use features that Windows 7 copies.

Vista sucked and Windows 7 looks like OS X imo

[Ishio]

Read it and weep, hipster.

http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=linux_windows_part3&num=1

So while Microsoft Windows 7 Professional took the lead in all of these gaming tests on Apple hardware, aside from when using Intel integrated graphics/

Hmmm, as I may have stated several times. Want to game? Windows 7. Want to do graphics or have a more stable computer, go OSX.

Thank you for supporting me.

[Muzyn]

Hmmm, as I may have stated several times. Want to game? Windows 7. Want to do graphics or have a more stable computer, go OSX.

Thank you for supporting me.

My overclocked i7 running Windows7 is as stable as a computer gets. Oh - and i'm getting way better FPS.

Windows isn't the problem..it's people who click on every link trying to get porn / pirated shit. OSX is just a stupidity shield for people.

[Mcbard]

Yes you are right, but I start the timing on after I choose the boot from the boot menu. The only thing Win 7 has to start up is the essentials, it's a builders copy so it has no crap ware, plus boot camp. Compared to my desktop it may, MAY add an extra 5 seconds, regardless it's still way slower to load than OSX. There are no "virtual drivers." I'm just loading the real drivers that run the hardware, and make windows start it. It's not like trying to make a hackintosh where you have to get OSX to bypass the fact that there's a chip in the hardware.

Like I said I still prefer to game on my desktop. I use a 20.1" monitor which I prefer over my 15" laptop.

Really? I loaded the bootcamp drivers so that I could have full functionality on my touchpad. Saved be the effort of having to download all of them manually (there were a BUNCH missing, graphics, audio etc.). Given all of that, OSX boots up in about 14 seconds, Windows 7 x64 takes about 20 for me. Personally I think this Mac operating system is just silly as shit. I mean, the firewall is off by default, it comes with a ton of (IMO) bloatware (photobooth, iPhoto, this annoying Mobile Me software I can't get rid of), and I absolutely despise Quicktime/iTunes (I've never met an educated, computer literate Mac user who didn't immediately install VLC player).

I don't understand the train of thought that causes people to assume that everybody who owns a Mac is a hipster doofus though. Is it jealousy, flame baiting, general naivety, or something else?

I don't think they're that expensive either. Then again I'm not the type of person that would ever buy a $400 laptop at Best Buy and be happy with it. I'm willing to spend a little money to get a product I'll enjoy and that will (hopefully) last. I know I purchased mine and got a free 8gp iPod touch that could easily have netted me $150-$200 back had I chose to sell it.

[Muzyn]

Really? I loaded the bootcamp drivers so that I could have full functionality on my touchpad. Saved be the effort of having to download all of them manually (there were a BUNCH missing, graphics, audio etc.). Given all of that, OSX boots up in about 14 seconds, Windows 7 x64 takes about 20 for me. Personally I think this Mac operating system is just silly as shit. I mean, the firewall is off by default, it comes with a ton of (IMO) bloatware (photobooth, iPhoto, this annoying Mobile Me software I can't get rid of), and I absolutely despise Quicktime/iTunes (I've never met an educated, computer literate Mac user who didn't immediately install VLC player).

I don't understand the train of thought that causes people to assume that everybody who owns a Mac is a hipster doofus though. Is it jealousy, flame baiting, general naivety, or something else?

I don't think they're that expensive either. Then again I'm not the type of person that would ever buy a $400 laptop at Best Buy and be happy with it. I'm willing to spend a little money to get a product I'll enjoy and that will (hopefully) last. I know I purchased mine and got a free 8gp iPod touch that could easily have netted me $150-$200 back had I chose to sell it.

Apple still sells Macbook Pros and Airs with 4 year old core 2 processors for over $1000. Not that expensive? I'd rather buy a $400-$500 HP every year or 2 with faster cpu/gpu. But hey, as long as the outside looks pretty.. who cares.

[Mcbard]

Apple still sells Macbook Pros and Airs with 4 year old core 2 processors for over $1000. Not that expensive? I'd rather buy a $400-$500 HP every year or 2 with faster cpu/gpu. But hey, as long as the outside looks pretty.. who cares.

The 15 and 17 inch Macbook Pro's have come with core i5 and core i7's for some time now, and they all have dedicated nVidia graphics cards and come with 4 gigs of 1066mhz DDR3 memory, and yes on top of all of that they look absolutely beautiful. :)

[dredge]

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[ownrage]

i play on my newly acquired macbook air using Crossover Games. and useing toast titanium to mount the images of eq titanium. This way i don't need to dual boot to play

[Mcbard]

So whats the easiest setup for a late 2009 base model 21.5" imac?
I belive I installed win7 on a bootcamp partition when I first got it but honestly I never booted back into it. I set it up incase I needed it for school work/software.

Right now I'm playing on an old hand me down desktop pc with win7/32bit and a bad wireless signal. It's real choppy and laggy due to the wireless I belive.

My Imac is wired and has a lot faster connection, besides having a way better display then the pc's old crt monitor and jet engine sounding fans so I would like to use my mac :)

also once the bootcamp is running and has a Internet connection can I just copy and paste my EQ folder off the pc onto the mac of do I need to reinstall with the daemon lite tool thing again?

and should I use an older full size mac keyboard I have, or is my Imac's compact keyboard just as good? Meaning all the keys are there.

You can just copy the folder over. All you need are the files, EverQuest does not install any valuable registry keys.

I prefer the full keyboard because otherwise you'll have to remap certain keys like screen shot or the auto-center key. I can't live without the auto center key. I also like to macro the numpad keys to do handy things like open/close all bags.

If I were you I would just fully update my bootcamp win7 and copy your EQ folder over and make sure your links are all set so you don't patch. I bet it looks sexy on that 21 inch display too. :)

[Tork]

@Ownrage - do you have a copy of the bottle you could post/send?

I couldn't get my EQ running under CO Games. =/

[cadiz]

Virutalize linux then use wine? Honestly though, don't ever do that. Install Windows.

Looks like you can run wine natively (http://wiki.winehq.org/MacOSX)on OSX to play EQ.

You may need to modify the wine OSX package or source similar to what's required with a wine/Linux setup.
You can probably take the wine-specific pieces from these forum threads to make it happen:

Wine setup on Ubuntu (http://www.project1999.org/forums/showthread.php?t=14125)
Wine setup on Fedora (http://www.project1999.org/forums/showthread.php?t=21734)

[ShadowWulf]

got it running on my ipad using a remote desktop jailbreak app, but only at 15fps on wi-fi, no 3g tests yet. My Droid had 4x the performance and 60 fps (30fps over 3g)
Ill keep tinkering...

[Bearzerker]

have you tried using wine under mac os?....
I run EQ using wine under linux and its so much smoother then running it on a windows OS... linux ubuntu makes it seemless and purdy darn tootin fer sure...

if you can load wine on mac os then you should be able to play eq using a mac

check the linux thread here ...
http://www.project1999.org/forums/showthread.php?t=14125&highlight=linux+setup

[Alkorin]

Thread necro'd for... why? Especially given that this same exact thing was specifically mentioned two posts above yours?

Sigh.

[Krait]

I've got it working on my mac. I copied over an already installed game folder from windows though so if you don't have that option you'll have to figure out some more steps.

1. Install MacPorts from http://www.macports.org/
2. From the command line run:
$ sudo port install wine
3. Go make a sandwich
4. From the command line run the following command. Shouldn't need to change any settings here but it creates a ~/.wine directory for you.
$ winecfg
5. Now copy the installed game folder (with p99 changes) to this location:
$ mv ~/Desktop/EverQuest mv ~/.wine/drive_c/Program\ Files/.
6. You should be all set, run it with a script like:
$ cat run-p99.sh
cd "/Users/you/.wine/drive_c/Program Files/EverQuest"
wine "/Users/you/.wine/drive_c/Program Files/EverQuest/eqgame.exe" patchme
$ ./run-p99.sh

The only problem I have is when I start it, it runs partially out of my screen without any handles to move it. I got around this by using Spaces (turn it on in your System Preferences). Once you zoom out to see all the virtual desktops you can then click and drag the game wherever you need to.

I hope this helps.

[Krait]

Thread necro'd for... why? Especially given that this same exact thing was specifically mentioned two posts above yours?

Sigh.

Haha, and again... sorry.

[Alkorin]

Hey, at least you gave some useful information there... I might take EQ out of my VMware Fusion install now. I have scrolling issues, but it's otherwise playable.

Does the mouse scrolling work properly with WINE?