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Gixx
12-02-2014, 12:20 AM
On the beta server, if you are buffed with focus of spirit, cripple will not land on you (your spell did not take hold) and focus of spirit will overwrite cripple if it is on you.

Cripple does stack with maniacal strength etc, is this intended behavior?

Wonton
05-23-2016, 05:03 PM
Bump. This is still working as OP described. This is a well-known bug amongst high level pvp and is being used a lot.

Scenario: My 60 enchanter raptures a monk, tashes the monk, then casts cripple. I got a "Your spell will not take hold"

[Mon May 23 15:45:14 2016] Players on EverQuest:
[Mon May 23 15:45:14 2016] ---------------------------
[Mon May 23 15:45:14 2016] [ANONYMOUS] Myopic <Thunderdome>
[Mon May 23 15:45:14 2016] There is 1 player in Trakanon's Teeth.
[Mon May 23 15:45:14 2016] Players on EverQuest:
[Mon May 23 15:45:14 2016] ---------------------------
[Mon May 23 15:45:14 2016] [ANONYMOUS] Myopic <Thunderdome>
[Mon May 23 15:45:14 2016] There is 1 player in Trakanon's Teeth.
[Mon May 23 15:45:21 2016] You begin casting Rapture.
[Mon May 23 15:45:24 2016] Zechariah swoons in raptured bliss.
[Mon May 23 15:45:27 2016] Zechariah is a member of Friends.
[Mon May 23 15:45:28 2016] Cyren tells you, 'yeah sec'
[Mon May 23 15:45:30 2016] You begin casting Tashanian.
[Mon May 23 15:45:31 2016] Zechariah glances nervously about.
[Mon May 23 15:45:32 2016] Your spell did not take hold. (< My spyglass refreshing spell gems and having 15 buff slots)
[Mon May 23 15:45:32 2016] You begin casting Cripple.
[Mon May 23 15:45:32 2016] You haven't recovered yet...
[Mon May 23 15:45:32 2016] You haven't recovered yet...
[Mon May 23 15:45:34 2016] Your spell did not take hold.
[Mon May 23 15:45:38 2016] Cyren tells you, 'if i don't run it as admin i can't talk'
[Mon May 23 15:45:39 2016] Your sapping vitality fades.
[Mon May 23 15:45:42 2016] Players on EverQuest:
[Mon May 23 15:45:42 2016] ---------------------------
[Mon May 23 15:45:42 2016] [ANONYMOUS] Zechariah
[Mon May 23 15:45:42 2016] [ANONYMOUS] Myopic <Thunderdome>
[Mon May 23 15:45:42 2016] There are 2 players in Trakanon's Teeth.
[Mon May 23 15:45:42 2016] You told Zechariah, 'mmm what is that btw'
[Mon May 23 15:45:43 2016] Players on EverQuest:
[Mon May 23 15:45:43 2016] ---------------------------
[Mon May 23 15:45:43 2016] [ANONYMOUS] Zechariah
[Mon May 23 15:45:43 2016] [ANONYMOUS] Myopic <Thunderdome>
[Mon May 23 15:45:43 2016] There are 2 players in Trakanon's Teeth.
[Mon May 23 15:45:49 2016] Zechariah tells you, '?'
[Mon May 23 15:45:50 2016] spectral keeper begins to cast a spell.
[Mon May 23 15:45:51 2016] Your Rapture spell has worn off.
[Mon May 23 15:45:51 2016] Players on EverQuest:
[Mon May 23 15:45:51 2016] ---------------------------
[Mon May 23 15:45:51 2016] [ANONYMOUS] Zechariah
[Mon May 23 15:45:51 2016] [ANONYMOUS] Myopic <Thunderdome>
[Mon May 23 15:45:51 2016] There are 2 players in Trakanon's Teeth.
[Mon May 23 15:45:55 2016] You told Zechariah, 'my cripple wont take hold'
[Mon May 23 15:45:59 2016] spectral keeper begins to cast a spell.
[Mon May 23 15:46:01 2016] Zechariah tells you, 'too much mr'
[Mon May 23 15:46:04 2016] You told Zechariah, 'lmfao'

...

[Mon May 23 15:46:41 2016] You told Zechariah, 'some people try too hard'
[Mon May 23 15:46:45 2016] You told Zechariah, '(you)'
[Mon May 23 15:46:46 2016] Players on EverQuest:
[Mon May 23 15:46:46 2016] ---------------------------
[Mon May 23 15:46:46 2016] [ANONYMOUS] Zechariah
[Mon May 23 15:46:46 2016] [ANONYMOUS] Myopic <Thunderdome>
[Mon May 23 15:46:46 2016] There are 2 players in Trakanon's Teeth.
[Mon May 23 15:46:49 2016] Drawstring says out of character, 'WTS Spell: Vocarate: Water Words of Bondage Spell: Upheaval Spell: Cannibalize III'
[Mon May 23 15:46:50 2016] Zechariah is a member of Friends.
[Mon May 23 15:46:50 2016] Players on EverQuest:
[Mon May 23 15:46:50 2016] ---------------------------
[Mon May 23 15:46:50 2016] [ANONYMOUS] Zechariah
[Mon May 23 15:46:50 2016] [ANONYMOUS] Myopic <Thunderdome>
[Mon May 23 15:46:50 2016] There are 2 players in Trakanon's Teeth.
[Mon May 23 15:46:57 2016] Your feet slow down.
[Mon May 23 15:46:57 2016] Your feet feel quick.
[Mon May 23 15:46:57 2016] The grim aura fades.
[Mon May 23 15:46:57 2016] A dull aura covers your hand.
[Mon May 23 15:46:58 2016] Your eyes stop tingling.
[Mon May 23 15:46:58 2016] Your eyes tingle.

...

[Mon May 23 15:47:19 2016] There are 2 players in Trakanon's Teeth.
[Mon May 23 15:47:55 2016] You told Zechariah, 'just tell me why my cripples wont take hold? not too much to ask is it?'
[Mon May 23 15:47:58 2016] Players on EverQuest:
[Mon May 23 15:47:58 2016] ---------------------------
[Mon May 23 15:47:58 2016] [ANONYMOUS] Twerk
[Mon May 23 15:47:58 2016] [ANONYMOUS] Zechariah
[Mon May 23 15:47:58 2016] [ANONYMOUS] Myopic <Thunderdome>
[Mon May 23 15:47:58 2016] There are 3 players in Trakanon's Teeth.
[Mon May 23 15:47:59 2016] Whyspery says out of character, 'WTS Shiny Robe of the UnderfootSphinx Heart AmuletA Black Crown'
[Mon May 23 15:48:02 2016] Zechariah tells you, 'i have focus bro'
[Mon May 23 15:48:06 2016] Zechariah tells you, 'its 15th slot'

...

[Mon May 23 15:48:27 2016] Zechariah tells you, 'cant be crippled if you're focused its a bug'
[Mon May 23 15:48:38 2016] Your bedlam fades.
[Mon May 23 15:48:48 2016] You told Zechariah, 'nifty'
[Mon May 23 15:48:50 2016] Players on EverQuest:

...

[Mon May 23 15:49:09 2016] [ANONYMOUS] Twerk
[Mon May 23 15:49:09 2016] [ANONYMOUS] Zechariah
[Mon May 23 15:49:09 2016] [ANONYMOUS] Myopic <Thunderdome>
[Mon May 23 15:49:09 2016] There are 3 players in Trakanon's Teeth.
[Mon May 23 15:49:12 2016] You are low on food and drink.
[Mon May 23 15:49:14 2016] Zechariah tells you, 'its spiffy fer sure'

Ele
05-23-2016, 05:49 PM
Maybe be an issue with some additions that were made to Focus in post-Luclin being in effect here:

http://lucy.allakhazam.com/spellhistory.html?id=1432&source=Live

2002-10-16 11:15 Added Slot 6: Stacking: Overwrite existing spell if slot 1 is effect 'STR' and < 67
2002-10-16 11:15 Added Slot 7: Stacking: Overwrite existing spell if slot 1 is effect 'DEX' and < 60
2002-10-16 11:15 Added Slot 8: Stacking: Block new spell if slot 1 is effect 'STR' and < 1067
2002-10-16 11:15 Added Slot 9: Stacking: Block new spell if slot 1 is effect 'DEX' and < 1060

Cripple reduces STR by 68-75(?), which is less than +67 and less than +1067 so Focus (circa 2002) overwrites and blocks based on this historical update in Lucy.

IDK if this is present here, but may be of guidance to pinpointing the issue.

silo32
05-23-2016, 07:26 PM
this is classic

shoud stay in