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gojita69
09-16-2010, 11:37 AM
I think it would be loads of fun if we could have beastlords and berserkers on the classic server. I mean why not? If you wanted to add the vah shirs or frogloks they could start in Halas and the frogloks can start in freeport. Vah shirs are the only ones I know that have a "classic" model as well.
It would be nice to have more slows in the game for people who don't want to play a caster class like a shaman or enchanter

gintu01
09-16-2010, 11:42 AM
I think it would be loads of fun if we could have beastlords and berserkers on the classic server. I mean why not? If you wanted to add the vah shirs or frogloks they could start in Halas and the frogloks can start in freeport. Vah shirs are the only ones I know that have a "classic" model as well.
It would be nice to have more slows in the game for people who don't want to play a caster class like a shaman or enchanter

"Id rather have a buffalo take a diarrhea dump in my ear"

Lazortag
09-16-2010, 11:42 AM
I guarantee this will make it to R&F as the original troll poster's troll-bait gets bitten by people who (a) are vehemently opposed to the idea and, god forbid, (b) people who actually like the idea and defend it with tired mantras like "well being able to put points in the Vah Shir language isn't classic either, so who cares if this isn't classic??"

gojita69
09-16-2010, 11:43 AM
"Id rather have a buffalo take a diarrhea dump in my ear"

I believe this is copyrighted

Nedala
09-16-2010, 11:43 AM
http://macleans.files.wordpress.com/2009/09/yoda-flame-war-begun.jpg

sorry im bored :P

Savard18
09-16-2010, 11:49 AM
Beastlords are a waste. What a worthless class. Horrible idea.

gintu01
09-16-2010, 11:52 AM
I believe this is copyrighted

"Id rather have a buffalo take a diarrhea dump in my ear?" ©

Fixed!

Dantes
09-16-2010, 12:05 PM
This aint happening. They still haven't answered my suggestion to allow the Thulian Claw to be offhand equipped so I can look like Wolverine. I also wanted to be able to use gnomes as throwing objects. The devs just don't listen. :D

Extunarian
09-16-2010, 03:22 PM
...I also wanted to be able to use gnomes as throwing objects. The devs just don't listen. :D

Do you want to be able to use them as actual projectiles? Or more of a pokemon-style ball that spawns a level 5 gnome cleric that casts minor heal on you before being savagely ripped apart?

I'd be for either.

Regnon
09-16-2010, 03:26 PM
I always kind of enjoyed playing Beastlord.

Having a Giant Croc you can send to attack things is kind of cool.

gprater
09-16-2010, 03:30 PM
opinions are like assholes....everyone has one....even the diarrhea/buffalo/dump/ear example...although a fair bit strange

gintu01
09-16-2010, 04:01 PM
^^^^

www.youtube.com/user/JamesNintendoNerd

Ingrum
09-16-2010, 04:45 PM
Pretty sure this has to be a joke.

Except that I didn't lawl.

Malinrol
09-20-2010, 08:28 AM
Never shall those classes live to see the light of p99. And neither will Vah Shir and frogs. You want to be a frog? Have a gm that screwing around in EC change yah into a tiny one. Im perfectly happy with my human sk.

In a simpler way, no...

Nedala
09-20-2010, 08:42 AM
I think its funny how every now and then someone steps up with ideas like this.

Can we please enable pvp, custom content, AAs, luclin, 2 boxing, vah shirs, frogs, berserkers, bazaar, pop, make planes harder, new custom hybrids, luclin models?

Maybe we should make a "things that will never happen on p99" forum section, where you can post all your pointless ideas.

Tseng
09-20-2010, 09:10 AM
Can we AT LEAST raise the level cap to 85?

Oldfart
09-20-2010, 02:13 PM
lol are these people for real? beastlords, lvl cap 85 at velious? cmon people, just get off your high horses, lets do it classic like it was ment to be

Retan
09-20-2010, 02:33 PM
Seriously guys, we need to raise the level cap to 90, add AA's, add mercs, flying mounts, epic 3.0 that can be purchased from vendors for 500-550 gold( thats right, i said GOLD) you should start with all your spells, and half of the spells from some other class of your choice, 1 million exp everytime you log in. If these changes dont happen in 20 minutes I will quit and cut my own feet off. /douchebaggeryoff

guineapig
09-20-2010, 02:48 PM
I want to hear more about this gnome projectile idea...

liveitup1216
09-20-2010, 02:55 PM
i dont really see how letting beastlords be playable would break anything, they were released when the cap was still 60.

although the AA's and stuff sorta puts me off, i dont see how letting people play the class will ruin velious in any way shape or form.

complain less.

Savard18
09-20-2010, 03:07 PM
Here is a list of every raid in EQ that needs a beastlord to win:

Here is a list of every group that needs a beastlord in it:

I could go on....

It was a worthless class then and is still a worthless class now. Putting them in P99 wouldn't change that, it would just create a headache for the devs to add a class that is worthless. Thankfully I am about 100% sure they will NOT be added to this server.

Ok - they had 1 spell on Live. 1 spell. Top guilds rarely carry more than 2 beastlords... actually 2 is pushing it.

Retan
09-20-2010, 03:28 PM
Which spell are you referring to? I never played a beastie.

Savard18
09-20-2010, 03:42 PM
The MGB Spiritual _____ line of spells (Increase HP / Mana per tick) were nice to have during raids, but again, they were not needed.

That was my point, the Beastlord is a class that is never needed, it is only nice to have every so often at best. It was a bad idea to introduce it as a class and the class now still is frowned upon on Live when it comes to raiding.

It is a filler class for groups also, think about it, you never wanted a BL unless you knew them.

kingsBlend
09-20-2010, 03:53 PM
I'm pretty sure the Beastlord didn't even want to group with the Beastlord and vice-versa.

Nedala
09-20-2010, 03:54 PM
they were released when the cap was still 60.



erm no?

Serith
09-20-2010, 04:06 PM
Let's not.

liveitup1216
09-20-2010, 05:21 PM
erm no?

"Though Shadows of Luclin doesn't extend EverQuest's experience level cap past 60, it does allow for characters of 51st level or above to earn powerful, new abilities in place of experience levels." - taken from a review on gamespot 12/20/01

and as for them being not needed/desired in raids/groups, i don't see how that is a viable argument at all. why have rangers in that case other than "its classic".

im not demanding them, but saying i dont see what "headache" it'd cause to simply allow the class to be played for people who want to, long after velious is released ofc.

Savard18
09-20-2010, 06:01 PM
and as for them being not needed/desired in raids/groups, i don't see how that is a viable argument at all. why have rangers in that case other than "its classic".

im not demanding them, but saying i dont see what "headache" it'd cause to simply allow the class to be played for people who want to, long after velious is released ofc.

But this is a classic server.

Rangers = classic
Beastlords = Not
P99 = classic

Not sure if I get your point. Rangers don't need special attention to add - granted I am not a programmer, but I assume a headache would be adding Beastlords to all the gear, quests, zones, etc. that are out there except for Vah Shir since they won't be available. Plus making quests for gear in zones they might not have them... I don't think Velious gear was added for Beastlords after Luclin came out, or PoSky - don't quote me on that but you know people would complain about not having quest gear.

There is a reason they aren't adding Luclin and anything else after, because it was the begining of the suck for EQ at that expansion, and everything else after was a little shittier until all that is left is the shitball that EQLive is today.

Topping everything off, the Beastlord class added no real value to EQ, at least zerkers are great DPS after mass AA's, but Beastlords just sit there and suck. The argument of adding them in cause it doesn't hurt is not really valid.

liveitup1216
09-20-2010, 06:19 PM
yeah i agree with that point more, considering the headache of having to find all the beastlord quests/etc to add that were backadded into classic/kun/vel, probably a huuuuuge pita

i dont care if theyre added or not, just the other arguments people were making against it had nothing to stand on other than nouuuuuu itz not classic

Proutos
09-20-2010, 06:24 PM
The problem with beastlord, they were up with Luclin , that mean they have spells they would not had with velious max.

Kassel
09-20-2010, 06:31 PM
It boogles my mind that people choose to play on as close to a classic server as technically possible, constantly request changes that are not "classic" There are many other servers available that are open to these types of suggestions, feel free to play on those. This server is designed to be classic and every single request to add a non classic element is just plain idiotic. It has nothing to do with "harm" or "balance", it has everything to do with the fundamental reason this server exists. This post is most likely a troll. But regardless, your request is not classic (including trilogy) so GTFO.

nalkin
09-20-2010, 07:22 PM
Actually, as demonstrated in the past, the "its classic" argument is not valid since there have been classic elements chosen not to be implemented. So its a "sort of trying to be close to classic as possible" server with dev choices playing a factor. So if yuns think about it, beastlord isn't really that bad of a question... Of course beastlords are stupid so it really is but ya know what im saying.

Kassel
09-20-2010, 07:30 PM
as close to a classic server as technically possible
....for people who do this on their free time as a favor to you......


Better?

I feel " its not classic" is very valid.

liveitup1216
09-20-2010, 08:00 PM
my only point that if it turns out the devs say "beastlord could be easily implemented without much hassle", there's no real reason to lulzwtfcomplain.

it probably isnt, probably wont happen, but to demand it doesnt happen is equally douchy.

Tseng
09-20-2010, 08:06 PM
lol are these people for real? beastlords, lvl cap 85 at velious? cmon people, just get off your high horses, lets do it classic like it was ment to be

I thought my post at the very least was obviously sarcastic.

Savard18
09-20-2010, 08:24 PM
my only point that if it turns out the devs say "beastlord could be easily implemented without much hassle", there's no real reason to lulzwtfcomplain.

it probably isnt, probably wont happen, but to demand it doesnt happen is equally douchy.

I disagree, it is a lot more reasonable to ask for it to not happen on a server that is "as close to a classic server as technically possible" than it would be to ask for it to happen. If Luclin was planned to be added I wouldn't bother to post, but I doubt it will happen.

Bubbles
09-20-2010, 08:32 PM
If you're looking for something "far more reasonable":

Halfling Rangers/Paladins, Gnome Shadowknights, etc.

Since their sole purpose would be amusing people until kunark was released, it would give a couple extra bored people a new class/race combo or two to play around with.

But once again, it's not classic, and certainly not worth the dev's time at this point.

The only purpose adding beastlords would have is to take some of the "lolyourclasssux0r" heat off of rangers.

liveitup1216
09-20-2010, 08:33 PM
The only purpose adding beastlords would have is to take some of the "lolyourclasssux0r" heat off of rangers.

hahahaha, poor rangers :cool:

Nedala
09-20-2010, 08:45 PM
"Though Shadows of Luclin doesn't extend EverQuest's experience level cap past 60, it does allow for characters of 51st level or above to earn powerful, new abilities in place of experience levels." - taken from a review on gamespot 12/20/01

.


hmmm i was about sure lvl cap was increased to 65 with luclin....it was not???

loneless999
09-20-2010, 08:55 PM
i dont see a prob with beastlords being added it wont ruin my P1999 experience

once veliouse is done and dusted people are going to want new things to keep the game intresting a game HAS to evolve even if its not the way live went and the devs do there own thing

going through all the item database to redo everything for a new class not to mention the beastlord epic most of which took place on luclin would be a real pain in the ass to do and im sure the devs have higher prioritys at the mement

Kassel
09-20-2010, 09:32 PM
You dont walk into Mcdonalds and demand a taco, if you want that taco you damn well better think outside the bun.

nalkin
09-20-2010, 09:33 PM
You dont walk into Mcdonalds and demand a taco, if you want that taco you damn well better think outside the bun.

Unless McDonalds has sold you tacos before

Kassel
09-20-2010, 09:39 PM
I dont care if its July, i want my mofo shamrock shake!!

RKromwell
09-21-2010, 12:04 AM
I wouldn't mind seeing Beastlords. You can add them without the space kittens. While I don't see a need for them. Some of you need to remember that not everyone plays the game to be a raider. Do I want them...no not really but if at one point they were added I wouldn't bitch about it.

Puyen
09-21-2010, 07:07 AM
Why bother mentioning this when these classes and races were not introduced in classic and kunark. People when kunark ends then ask because we are not very close to releasing luclin.

Ponden
09-21-2010, 07:13 AM
I love how its a classic progression server yet everyone wants to customize it with added classes, "special" aa's, and custom content.

i dont care if theyre added or not, just the other arguments people were making against it had nothing to stand on other than nouuuuuu itz not classic

That is because we don't play here to relive SoL or OoW. We play here because of the content. If you want custom content or Beastlords or AAs, go play another server. Its that simple. It isn't even worth bringing these subjects up.

girth
09-21-2010, 07:26 AM
the other arguments people were making against it had nothing to stand on other than nouuuuuu itz not classic

Are you stupid? Maybe you should read more about Project 1999...it blows my mind you are 50 and cannot comprehend that the people who run this shit want it to mirror classic as much as possible. How can you possibly want any other argument than that on a CLASSIC server?

Messianic
09-21-2010, 07:38 AM
HEY EVERYONE THIS IS BURGER KING BUT LETS ASK FOR INDIAN FOOD

Thac0
09-21-2010, 08:28 AM
I want my Ogre Warrior to dual wield gnome warriors dual wielding yaks.

Puyen
09-21-2010, 02:14 PM
Exactly. Don't ask for food that's not on the menu cause I'll spit in your drink

yaeger
09-21-2010, 02:58 PM
I'd much rather the devs spend their time tweaking existing classes than bringing in new ones.

No offense, but why is it acceptable that rangers stay so weak Classic through Velious? I'm not saying anything drastic, just give them something to make a ranger sought after more than say.. a mage.

Lazortag
09-21-2010, 03:48 PM
I'd much rather the devs spend their time tweaking existing classes than bringing in new ones.

No offense, but why is it acceptable that rangers stay so weak Classic through Velious? I'm not saying anything drastic, just give them something to make a ranger sought after more than say.. a mage.

There's no good reason why a Ranger should be less desirable in a group than a warrior of the same level, unless the warrior is 37+ and has two Yaks or something. Rangers are generally better at holding aggro and can even CC a little. Warriors have the advantage of having more hp, which I won't trivialize, but at earlier levels when I search for a tank I do /who all Ranger too.

Ponden
09-21-2010, 04:25 PM
Not sure about you guys, but I actually find Rangers to be a great addition to a group.

Prefader
09-21-2010, 04:42 PM
Not sure about you guys, but I actually find Rangers to be a great addition to a group.

/agree.

DISCLAIMER: Prefader only plays Rangers in EQ.

Wizerud
09-21-2010, 07:17 PM
Beastlords are a very fun class to play but simply have no place on this server. All it will do is create even more people soloing, which is the beastlords forte.

Assling rangers and gnome shadowknights tho? No problem there IMO.

Puyen
09-21-2010, 08:22 PM
Make ranger do alittle more damage with a bow maybe heh only seems reasonable

Bodeanicus
09-22-2010, 04:16 AM
It boogles my mind that people choose to play on as close to a classic server as technically possible, constantly request changes that are not "classic" There are many other servers available that are open to these types of suggestions, feel free to play on those. This server is designed to be classic and every single request to add a non classic element is just plain idiotic. It has nothing to do with "harm" or "balance", it has everything to do with the fundamental reason this server exists. This post is most likely a troll. But regardless, your request is not classic (including trilogy) so GTFO.

It boggles me that no one is bitching about things that are not "classic" on a "classic" server. Faction changes, i.e. my Erudite necro isn't KOS in Qeynos, what the hell is that? What the hell is up with not having to look at the book while medding?

This is in no way a "classic" server. Where's the outrage over that, hypocrite? And by the way, why don't you go fuck yourself?

Messianic
09-22-2010, 08:54 AM
This is a Classic Progression server. That means the dimension of time is a factor in what content is available. To misunderstand it as a static classic server would be to assume that everything is always as it was during the first three months after release.

And that would be incredibly boring...

Rejuvenation
09-22-2010, 10:36 AM
It boggles me that no one is bitching about things that are not "classic" on a "classic" server. Faction changes, i.e. my Erudite necro isn't KOS in Qeynos, what the hell is that? What the hell is up with not having to look at the book while medding?

This is in no way a "classic" server. Where's the outrage over that, hypocrite? And by the way, why don't you go fuck yourself?

Book-Med would be impossible to reproduce with the current UI.

Its an impossibly retarded mechanic though, and you and 3 other people are the only other people who want that back in.

Faction stuff, I can hear you on that...

Kassel
09-22-2010, 11:27 AM
It boggles me that no one is bitching about things that are not "classic" on a "classic" server. Faction changes, i.e. my Erudite necro isn't KOS in Qeynos, what the hell is that? What the hell is up with not having to look at the book while medding?

This is in no way a "classic" server. Where's the outrage over that, hypocrite? And by the way, why don't you go fuck yourself?

Thank you for attacking me with the logic and flare of a teenage girl on her first period. I am a hypocrite for not asking devs to fix something they have stated is technically impossible to do on an emulator based on titanium code? I have been here for one month and apparently you joined in Nov 2009 yet you still do not have the faintest clue how the server works nor what the devs are trying to achieve here. Sure the faction issue is not perfect and could use an update. But how does coding a beastlord help you fix the faction bugs? it doesn't. It makes it more likely that the faction issues will not be fixed. Wasting devs time complaining about something outside the "vision" of this server is as i stated idiotic. And FYI the spellbook change happened during the Classic trilogy period. Beastlords did not.

Puyen
09-22-2010, 11:44 AM
You make an excellent point. I too would like to see book med back though. Just my opinion

Retan
09-22-2010, 11:54 AM
You make an excellent point. I too would like to see book med back though. Just my opinion

Every minute spent medding with the book open, Cazic Thule kills a kitten.
Its true, I read it on wikipedia or some other credible source.

Savard18
09-22-2010, 12:10 PM
You make an excellent point. I too would like to see book med back though. Just my opinion

Having a 100% classic server is good idea in theory, but improving on things that were dumb, or not bothering with them is 10x better.

Book med is dumb.

HippoNipple
09-22-2010, 12:17 PM
Whats the point of book med without open pvp? I thought that was always the only reason for it and the rest of the servers just suffered for no reason.

Ishio
09-22-2010, 01:03 PM
I want this to happen, yet at the same time I'm more than satisfied with it not happening. I'm one who loves to solo, and yes there are other classes I can solo with, yet Beastlord has always appealed to me.

It's probably because of the Monk/Shaman combo, maybe the fact that it has a sweet pet, or maybe even because I love monk's, so the DW, H2H/1HB weapon combo pulls me in.

It's probably the fact that I love the name BeastLord.

I say, add them in, if the server ever hit Luclin, but not before. Keep the progression, if that's what P99 is doing, and don't defer from it.

Noselacri
09-22-2010, 01:33 PM
This is a pointless discussion. They're not going to even consider doing it, so it's no use trying to convince them.

Bodeanicus
09-22-2010, 05:24 PM
Thank you for attacking me with the logic and flare of a teenage girl on her first period. I am a hypocrite for not asking devs to fix something they have stated is technically impossible to do on an emulator based on titanium code? I have been here for one month and apparently you joined in Nov 2009 yet you still do not have the faintest clue how the server works nor what the devs are trying to achieve here. Sure the faction issue is not perfect and could use an update. But how does coding a beastlord help you fix the faction bugs? it doesn't. It makes it more likely that the faction issues will not be fixed. Wasting devs time complaining about something outside the "vision" of this server is as i stated idiotic. And FYI the spellbook change happened during the Classic trilogy period. Beastlords did not.

I was addressing your "get the fuck out, this is CLASSIC" attitude, when it's obviously not a "classic" server. It wasn't called for. You didn't like it when addressed in the same manner, judging from your "my pussy hurts" response. I know this is the internet, where there are rarely any repercussions for being a prick, but try to show some fucking manners. Oh, and chief? You don't own the server, do don't act like someone jokingly suggesting Beastlords and Beserkers being added is a personal insult.

And by the way, the Spellbook was still in effect during Kunark.

Kassel
09-22-2010, 06:01 PM
A few bugs based on server code do not make this a "non classic" server....

I love the guy telling me to go F myself demanding I show some maners, then calling me a “chief” and hypocrit…only on the interweb…Thanks for pointing out that the book was removed in Kunark, LIKE I SAID IN MY POST, it was removed at some point during the Classic trilogy. Which is Vanilla, Kunark and Vellious. The devs have been very clear (read the FAQ) Luclin will not be added. So why waste their time asking stupid questions.

Savard18
09-22-2010, 06:01 PM
And by the way, the Spellbook was still in effect during Kunark.

The spellbook was an annoyance and overall it is not a big deal it was left out.

Anyone who complains about it, or says something like item linking doesn't make this classic is just being 100% anal.

They are doing this server the right way.

Bodeanicus
09-22-2010, 06:16 PM
The spellbook was an annoyance and overall it is not a big deal it was left out.

Anyone who complains about it, or says something like item linking doesn't make this classic is just being 100% anal.

They are doing this server the right way.

I agree. But why bitch about one, and not the others, just because it's convenient? And then attack anyone who questions it. I'm just pointing out the hypocrisy.

Bodeanicus
09-22-2010, 06:18 PM
A few bugs based on server code do not make this a "non classic" server....

I love the guy telling me to go F myself demanding I show some maners, then calling me a “chief” and hypocrit…only on the interweb…Thanks for pointing out that the book was removed in Kunark, LIKE I SAID IN MY POST, it was removed at some point during the Classic trilogy. Which is Vanilla, Kunark and Vellious. The devs have been very clear (read the FAQ) Luclin will not be added. So why waste their time asking stupid questions.

Because they were obviously joking, but you acted as if someone insulted your personal creation.

Kassel
09-22-2010, 06:23 PM
Because they were obviously joking, but you acted as if someone insulted your personal creation.

I disagree, I never took it to heart. Can we be friends now and enjoy good times killing sand giants together?

Bodeanicus
09-22-2010, 06:27 PM
I disagree, I never took it to heart. Can we be friends now and enjoy good times killing sand giants together?

Sure thing, but the loot is mine. ;)

Puyen
09-22-2010, 06:34 PM
Item linking is great classic or not because it's easier to see them and not constantly have to send tells with stats on items. Spell book is minor too just something to remember from the past

Thrynn
09-22-2010, 07:08 PM
"Id rather have a buffalo take a diarrhea dump in my ear"

+1 QFT

nymphloa
09-22-2010, 07:27 PM
I think it would be loads of fun if we could have beastlords and berserkers on the classic server. I mean why not? If you wanted to add the vah shirs or frogloks they could start in Halas and the frogloks can start in freeport. Vah shirs are the only ones I know that have a "classic" model as well.
It would be nice to have more slows in the game for people who don't want to play a caster class like a shaman or enchanter

If this is your second post? then what was your first?

"Can someone tell me why I can not find the books to PoK?"

Dumb ass...