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DrKvothe
12-16-2014, 09:10 PM
There was a fantastic thread (http://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=132972) a while back about gearing a non-raiding shaman in Velious. I was very impressed by the number of high-quality upgrades that were available simply through groupable content on dwarf (thurgadin armor set) or dragon faction (bracer of hammerfal, circlet of falinkan, strength of elements, talisman of benevolence, etc.). And canni IV, ermahgerd!

Looking at the thurgadin sets and new spells for other classes impressed me a lot less, frankly. I've read people's description of INSANE upgrades, but outside of raid content, I'm not really seeing much that's particularly impressive.

Please post anything you're excited about your class getting from small group content in Velious, or any spells/disciplines/etc that you think will enhance your class!

Herpa Derp
12-16-2014, 09:12 PM
Usable plate armor for my ikky SK.

loramin
12-16-2014, 09:15 PM
Coldain Prayer Shawl: flowing thought for a non-raider. Of course, it's debate-able whether you can call someone who gets 150+ in every tradeskill (except smithing) a "casual" ...

loramin
12-16-2014, 09:21 PM
Also, Dwarf armor is doable by non-raiders if I remember correctly.

Somekid123
12-16-2014, 09:29 PM
If I remember right shawl only going to 7th, 8th wasn't put in til Luclin.

Rararboker
12-16-2014, 09:33 PM
Translocates.

Portasaurus
12-16-2014, 09:52 PM
Seafood for miles!!!

Scallops, crab legs, shrimp, mussels, clams, rock crab, king crab, abalone, cutlassfish, roughy, whitefish, cod, snapper, cave trout, wrasse, bluegill, just so many fish they're practically comin' out my blowhole!! Yeaarrgh matey!

Big things coming from Nomsanto!!

For the seafood lover in you!

sox7d
12-16-2014, 09:54 PM
Interesting leveling zones for the non-raider.

jolanar
12-16-2014, 10:09 PM
Gear mudflation lowers prices on existing kunark/classic gear and makes it easier to buy.

Herpa Derp
12-16-2014, 10:15 PM
I'm kinda sad now, the armor quest rewards aren't that stellar . . . they have a shitload of AC but here that doesn't particularly matter. Thoughts?

Lunababy
12-16-2014, 11:26 PM
Permanent pet for druid
velious port for druid

Glenzig
12-16-2014, 11:29 PM
Seafood for miles!!!

Scallops, crab legs, shrimp, mussels, clams, rock crab, king crab, abalone, cutlassfish, roughy, whitefish, cod, snapper, cave trout, wrasse, bluegill, just so many fish they're practically comin' out my blowhole!! Yeaarrgh matey!

Big things coming from Nomsanto!!

For the seafood lover in you!

http://33.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mdy48iGpmd1rt8i4vo1_500.gif

Thulack
12-17-2014, 12:25 AM
If I remember right shawl only going to 7th, 8th wasn't put in til Luclin.

7th still has flowing thoughts on it and ok stats to make it worthwhile for alot of classes. But yes the armor quests really arent that great unless you getting SS armor and even some of those pieces are meh...Velious offers more areas to hunt and cheaper upgrades to get for lower casual people.

Herpa Derp
12-17-2014, 12:26 AM
Seafood for miles!!!

Scallops, crab legs, shrimp, mussels, clams, rock crab, king crab, abalone, cutlassfish, roughy, whitefish, cod, snapper, cave trout, wrasse, bluegill, just so many fish they're practically comin' out my blowhole!! Yeaarrgh matey!

Big things coming from Nomsanto!!

For the seafood lover in you!

YOU MEAN LIKE THIS!?

http://wiki.project1999.com/Sea_Dragon_Meat

falkun
12-17-2014, 09:52 AM
Coldain Prayer Shawl: flowing thought for a non-raider. Of course, it's debate-able whether you can call someone who gets 150+ in every tradeskill (except smithing) a "casual" ...

Nope (http://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1388)

Bard:

Mana/HP regen songs for lower levels (20 (http://wiki.project1999.com/Cassindra%27s_Chant_of_Clarity)and 32 (http://wiki.project1999.com/Cantata_of_Soothing))
Overhaste won't really be necessary on this server, as it still will not allow a player to surpass the 100% haste cap, but bards will be able to get players to the haste cap (55% from epic + 10% L60 ervaj + 35+% item haste), which they cannot do in Kunark and will never be able to do without epic/Velious daggers.
Epic cockblock of Trakanon eventually gets fixed. No this is not "group" content, but it will be a HUGE improvement over the current implementation.
Lute of the Howler (http://wiki.project1999.com/Lute_of_the_Howler)
Kael plate cycle should be virtually perma-camped (even though Thurg armor is marginal improvement over planar, especially in non-leg/bp slots).
Bards should be able to rock the ring quests, so getting a clicky should not be too hard.

Taminy
12-17-2014, 10:03 AM
Nope (http://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1388)


Unless the 7th shawl was buffed after Velious, yep.

7th shawl gave FT 1
8th shawl gave FT 3 + buff extension.

Daldaen
12-17-2014, 10:17 AM
Druids:


Epic goes from one of the hardest to one of the easiest with Triggerable VS every day with 2 stones and Triggerable Faydedar 3/4 months into Velious
Snare+Root stacks 1 month into Velious
New 60 and 55 heals 2 months into Velious
Track Cap moved from 50->125, 3 months into Velious
Forage will guarantee you foraging a food or drink 4 months into Velious IF you are hungry/thirsty.
Egress castable indoors, Wind Ports castable from any zone occurs 6 months into Velious
Druid quest BP has clicky Group Regrowth, never having to spend 600 mana again to get your group regen is huge
Druid quest gloves has clicky level 49 DS. Perfect for PLing also useful for mana free DMG.
Druids get two new Fire debuff lines that reduce AC, ATK and FR
Druids get an indoor castable stun to interupt inside casters
Druids get a bear pet which is useful as extra mana pool (with reclaim energy clicky) or per pulling)
Cobalt Scar provides high level Quadding location for lazy druid play.
Western Wastes provides fun area for charm kiting at high levels that used to be limited to dungeons.
Sirens Grotto provides area for baller druids to duo/trio. Really gutsy druids may solo here... Very lucky or gear dependant to solo though.

Telin
12-17-2014, 10:27 AM
The above post definitely highlights what I think of as a Druid. Mid level quad kiting areas in iceclad and wastelands are great. Plus you get a waterfall to shower in!

Bodybagger
12-17-2014, 10:30 AM
The Warrens.


Everything else in Velious is irrelevant.

GIVE ME THE WARRENS!



....also all the xp penalties that go away... and general buffs to hybrids which are very fun classes to play, which causes a drastic decline in the population of Halfling druids lol

Nuggie
12-17-2014, 10:45 AM
Unless the 7th shawl was buffed after Velious, yep.

7th shawl gave FT 1
8th shawl gave FT 3 + buff extension.

buff extensions didnt come out till luclin, no?

Daldaen
12-17-2014, 10:49 AM
Shawl 7 has FT 1 - is released with Velious
Shawl 8 has FT 3 and 20% Buff extension focus - Is released with Luclin (P99 2018)

hammertime7795
12-17-2014, 11:26 AM
Shawl 7 has FT 1 - is released with Velious
Shawl 8 has FT 3 and 20% Buff extension focus - Is released with Luclin (P99 2018)

Shawl 7 is not really for casuals anyway.

Ele
12-17-2014, 12:04 PM
Shawl 7 is not really for casuals anyway.

Depends on your definition of casual. It doesn't require a raid force to achieve.

Taminy
12-17-2014, 12:11 PM
buff extensions didnt come out till luclin, no?

Correct, but still saying a casual could get the 7th shawl which does have flowing thought on it... as meager as FT1 is. I was responding to someone else who said casuals couldn't get an item with FT on it.

hammertime7795
12-17-2014, 12:13 PM
Depends on your definition of casual. It doesn't require a raid force to achieve.

Hundreds of hours of tradeskills and farming should not meet the definition of casual for anyone lol.

WolfsongReborn
12-17-2014, 12:17 PM
If anything, it will be fun to see the grand Neckbeard migration as vast herds of them cross the tundra in search of rent...their frozen poopsocks dragging behind them like vestigial tails.

Isn't nature beautiful?

Daldaen
12-17-2014, 12:41 PM
Hundreds of hours of tradeskills and farming should not meet the definition of casual for anyone lol.

Casual I tend to view as "you can obtain it with an hour here and an hour there".

Which Shawl 7 you can.

JC, Brewing, Baking, Fletching and Pottery can all be gotten to the skill level required solely through vendor bought combine. It's tedium and will take a few hours for each. But it isn't extremely costly.

Smithing isn't really required until shawl 8 so you don't need that.

Which leaves Tailoring. Come Wu's Armor, you can get to 158 skill without killing yourself too much but getting to that point will require as much time as the other 5 TSes combined.

Beyond 158 you could do but you're better off just testing your luck on the 6th shawl combine.

If you are casual but started on this server a year or two back, you EASILY could have had all tradeskills except Tailoring set to go. Tailoring you can work up a year into Velious when Wu's is out etc.

It doesn't really require any extreme raid or awesome group. Lots of stuff you could solo or duo/trio if you're a non-solo class.

pharmakos
12-17-2014, 12:42 PM
the opportunity to buy Coldain Heads for 250plat a piece

Ele
12-17-2014, 12:43 PM
Hundreds of hours of tradeskills and farming should not meet the definition of casual for anyone lol.

People have had 3 years of Kunark/Classic to work on trade skills it isn't beyond the realm of casual (3-5 hours a week) to have sufficient tradeskills.

Taminy
12-17-2014, 12:43 PM
Hundreds of hours of tradeskills and farming should not meet the definition of casual for anyone lol.

A lot of the pain of tradeskilling can be mitigating by leveling in the right areas and other good planning tricks.

myriverse
12-17-2014, 12:48 PM
Hundreds of hours of tradeskills and farming should not meet the definition of casual for anyone lol.
Yes, it does. "Casual" is a state of mind, not indicative of time spent.

hammertime7795
12-17-2014, 12:49 PM
Yes, it does. "Casual" is a state of mind, not indicative of time spent.

Ok i guess if we are making up definitions of words than yes you could say that. My mistake.

Yumyums Inmahtumtums
12-17-2014, 12:54 PM
A lot of the pain of tradeskilling can be mitigating by leveling in the right areas and other good planning tricks.

Yes but spider silks don't drop in CB, Unrest, Mistmoore or CoM so in not really sure where I would find them or how I would go about acquiring them.

hammertime7795
12-17-2014, 12:56 PM
Yes but spider silks don't drop in CB, Unrest, Mistmoore or CoM so in not really sure where I would find them or how I would go about acquiring them.

You're sarcasm is delicious!

Ele
12-17-2014, 12:56 PM
Ok i guess if we are making up definitions of words than yes you could say that. My mistake.

Provide your definition and we can work from there?

Whirled
12-17-2014, 12:58 PM
Yes but spider silks don't drop in CB, Unrest, Mistmoore or CoM so in not really sure where I would find them or how I would go about acquiring them.

Spiders in EKarana... I believe I heard there''s a bounty for recovered halfings too

hammertime7795
12-17-2014, 01:00 PM
Provide your definition and we can work from there?

Thanks google
1.
relaxed and unconcerned.

2.
not regular or permanent, in particular.
synonyms: temporary, part-time, freelance, impermanent, irregular, occasional
"casual work"

Destron
12-17-2014, 01:01 PM
I'm so jacked for Velious. It pains me.

hammertime7795
12-17-2014, 01:06 PM
I'm so jacked for Velious. It pains me.

Same, its in my top 5 for all time best xpacs.

Messianic
12-17-2014, 01:14 PM
Translocates.

Taminy
12-17-2014, 01:16 PM
Is released with Luclin (P99 2018)

Moon kitties

Messianic
12-17-2014, 01:17 PM
Seriously guys. Let's go to Luclin.

If you disagree you hate kittens

Whirled
12-17-2014, 01:22 PM
http://running180.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/Cat-memes-are-you-kitten-me.jpg

Isn't there more wizard stuff too in Velious?

Bodybagger
12-17-2014, 01:29 PM
If we allow kittens we have to allow frogs. Forget all of that nonsense. Allow beastlords but no vah'shir, just to piss off the furbies!

Also, can I finally make an iksar rogue and maybe ranger...? I mean... Come on?!

Glenzig
12-17-2014, 01:42 PM
If we allow kittens we have to allow frogs. Forget all of that nonsense. Allow beastlords but no vah'shir, just to piss off the furbies!

Also, can I finally make an iksar rogue and maybe ranger...? I mean... Come on?!

Iksar ranger makes soooo much sense.

Whirled
12-17-2014, 01:43 PM
erudite monks ... why not?

hammertime7795
12-17-2014, 02:12 PM
No kats, no frog people NO NO NO.

Bodybagger
12-17-2014, 02:21 PM
erudite monks ... why not?

Because Erudites are nerds. They do at least get pal/sk though, which is....awful.


Iksar Rogue makes perfect sense... ranger is so-so... problem is no druid = no rangers sadly. And iksar druid makes no sense. But it's complete B.S. because oyu don't have to have cleric to get Paladin access racially, look at halflings with cleric and warrior but no paladin, and high elves have cleric but no warrior and get paladin, and half elves have warrior but no clerics and get paladin....

makes ZERO sense to not give hybrid (rangers) to other races just because no druids...
never understood it since no other hybrid followed that logic until beastlord came around, and only shaman races got them.

Just one more case of the ranger getting the shaft.

Whirled
12-17-2014, 02:26 PM
Halfling Rangers make the most sense I guess as far as any of that goes^

Still think erudite monks would be a big hit
... or maybe barbarian for that slam.

Nirgon
12-17-2014, 02:26 PM
Provide your definition and we can work from there?

lazy people

Bodybagger
12-17-2014, 02:53 PM
Halfling Rangers make the most sense I guess as far as any of that goes^

Still think erudite monks would be a big hit
... or maybe barbarian for that slam.

Dark elf rangers would be a big hit probably too......... they look cool *shrug* doesn't mean they make any sense....

Erudites don't have any martial combat skills, no warrior, rogue.. monk would be a wild stretch I think... barbarian at least has warrior and rogue to justify being able to fight... and on live my guild <Vikings> took great pride in our ability to brawl drunkenly on corpse runs with all of our mighty hand to hand skill and alcohol tolerance skills hahaha

<Da Troll Patrol> had no time for such nonsense though... we were busy pillaging and plundering the southern desert regions and eradicating frog and lizard man menace!


Erudites DO get warrens in velious though! that's literally the ONLY thing I truly care about coming... I want it so bad. that was my new blackburrow, my hidden gem of awesomeness to escape the crazy people and twinks and trains and camps.

Otherwise just looking forwards to the class improvements and new spells and stuff more than any other content, personally.

hammertime7795
12-17-2014, 02:56 PM
Dark elf rangers would be a big hit probably too......... they look cool *shrug* doesn't mean they make any sense....

Erudites don't have any martial combat skills, no warrior, rogue.. monk would be a wild stretch I think... barbarian at least has warrior and rogue to justify being able to fight... and on live my guild <Vikings> took great pride in our ability to brawl drunkenly on corpse runs with all of our mighty hand to hand skill and alcohol tolerance skills hahaha

<Da Troll Patrol> had no time for such nonsense though... we were busy pillaging and plundering the southern desert regions and eradicating frog and lizard man menace!


Erudites DO get warrens in velious though! that's literally the ONLY thing I truly care about coming... I want it so bad. that was my new blackburrow, my hidden gem of awesomeness to escape the crazy people and twinks and trains and camps.

Otherwise just looking forwards to the class improvements and new spells and stuff more than any other content, personally.

I dont recall anything cool in the warrens

DrKvothe
12-17-2014, 02:56 PM
Wow, so much thread derailment! One thought about the coldain shawl: it's something to do for people who aren't in ToV while they wait for a spot to open up while everything is perma-camped. Yes, my shaman would definitely rather have Strength of the Elements, but I'm guessing getting both the Phinny and Yael drops are gonna be tough for the first several months of Velious.

Another option that I fear will be common for players who can't find groups will be to tag mobs in Kael being camped by other groups sole for the faction hits. It looks like the quests for Bracer of Hammerfal and Talisman of Benevolence (or the other rewards) don't require waiting for a contested mob to spawn, just SS faction. Having the faction also sets you up for future benefits that may become available, like the circlet of falinkan and SS armor pieces that initially will be heavily contested.

Ele
12-17-2014, 02:58 PM
Talisman of Benevolence (or the other rewards) don't require waiting for a contested mob to spawn, just SS faction.

heheh

kaev
12-17-2014, 03:00 PM
Because Erudites are nerds. They do at least get pal/sk though, which is....awful.


Iksar Rogue makes perfect sense... ranger is so-so... problem is no druid = no rangers sadly. And iksar druid makes no sense. But it's complete B.S. because oyu don't have to have cleric to get Paladin access racially, look at halflings with cleric and warrior but no paladin, and high elves have cleric but no warrior and get paladin, and half elves have warrior but no clerics and get paladin....

makes ZERO sense to not give hybrid (rangers) to other races just because no druids...
never understood it since no other hybrid followed that logic until beastlord came around, and only shaman races got them.

Just one more case of the ranger getting the shaft.

The real question is why in hell don't half-elves get SK & Necro? As little love as they get you'd think they'd be natural recruits for Inny.

DrKvothe
12-17-2014, 03:03 PM
heheh

Am I wrong about that? I'm just going off the wiki...

Ele
12-17-2014, 03:07 PM
Am I wrong about that? I'm just going off the wiki...

You just need faction, a couple of friends, and a few minutes to complete the quest, which is why there will be a Ragefire-esque circle of people auto-fire-clicking their turn in piece to Scout Charisa every 12 hours.

hammertime7795
12-17-2014, 03:07 PM
Am I wrong about that? I'm just going off the wiki...

I think they are post velious.

Ele
12-17-2014, 03:09 PM
I think they are post velious.

You are incorrect.

hammertime7795
12-17-2014, 03:10 PM
You are incorrect.

Yeah i just read through the quest I remember doing it now.

DrKvothe
12-17-2014, 03:10 PM
You just need faction, a couple of friends, and a few minutes to complete the quest, which is why there will be a Ragefire-esque circle of people auto-fire-clicking their turn in piece to Scout Charisa every 12 hours.

What is this every 12 hours nonsense!? Crap.

hammertime7795
12-17-2014, 03:20 PM
What is this every 12 hours nonsense!? Crap.

would you rather everyone had the stuff day one?

Bodybagger
12-17-2014, 03:36 PM
http://everquest.allakhazam.com/scenery/warrens-muglwump.jpg


VELIOUS CASUL CONTENT INCOMING!!!

3 cheers for Velious!!!!

captnamazing
12-17-2014, 08:43 PM
yez

webrunner5
12-18-2014, 05:57 AM
I'm kinda sad now, the armor quest rewards aren't that stellar . . . they have a shitload of AC but here that doesn't particularly matter. Thoughts?

Oh trust me you will Kill for AC in Velious. AC is not perfect here by any means, but above level 45 it DOES matter. Mobs hit for a ton in Velious and AC helps you big time for that. So any Tank worth their salt will try to be maxed out on AC and HP. :D

Whoop
12-19-2014, 08:55 AM
Velius will be awesome but... when. will. it. open?

hammertime7795
12-19-2014, 09:03 AM
Velius will be awesome but... when. will. it. open?

Less than a year more than a month is my guess:D

webrunner5
12-19-2014, 11:07 AM
Less than a year more than a month is my guess:D

I would not bet the Farm on that lol. :(

Byrjun
12-19-2014, 12:46 PM
I dont recall anything cool in the warrens

Other than the location, it was like the perfect newbie dungeon. The loot you can obtain was pretty great for the level, it had a nice progression, and the molar quest is probably even better than CB belts / gnoll fangs, great exp and ringmail armor reward.

hammertime7795
12-19-2014, 12:54 PM
Other than the location, it was like the perfect newbie dungeon. The loot you can obtain was pretty great for the level, it had a nice progression, and the molar quest is probably even better than CB belts / gnoll fangs, great exp and ringmail armor reward.

gotcha so just a nice newb zone.

Portasaurus
12-19-2014, 01:27 PM
I dont recall anything cool in the warrens

Two words:

1. Barbequed

2. Eruditehttp://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?item=5212

Master Roshi
12-19-2014, 01:27 PM
Thurg Gate Potion!

edit: or is this during luclin?

Master Roshi
12-19-2014, 01:31 PM
Other than the location, it was like the perfect newbie dungeon. The loot you can obtain was pretty great for the level, it had a nice progression, and the molar quest is probably even better than CB belts / gnoll fangs, great exp and ringmail armor reward.

I recall the warrens giving +faction for paineel, which made it much more convenient for banking/vendors/hole access in general.

myriverse
12-19-2014, 01:38 PM
Thurg Gate Potion!

edit: or is this during luclin?
It's Velious. They're part of the 4th shawl.

Whirled
12-19-2014, 02:09 PM
Some mentioned already:
http://wiki.project1999.com/Runed_Scout%27s_Breastplate
http://wiki.project1999.com/Vial_of_Velium_Vapors
http://wiki.project1999.com/Sage%27s_Robe
http://wiki.project1999.com/Massive_Dragonclaw_Shard
http://wiki.project1999.com/Zlandicar%27s_Heart
http://wiki.project1999.com/Crystalline_Silk_Net
and so much more ... also...
.. snow...lots of ice too.

pharmakos
12-19-2014, 02:15 PM
Other than the location, it was like the perfect newbie dungeon. The loot you can obtain was pretty great for the level, it had a nice progression, and the molar quest is probably even better than CB belts / gnoll fangs, great exp and ringmail armor reward.

I recall the warrens giving +faction for paineel, which made it much more convenient for banking/vendors/hole access in general.

also a nice fat Zone Experience Mod

and a hidden gem that might get pretty popular since P99 is all about vendor recharging -- a 10 charge instant cast Clinging Darkness stick http://wiki.project1999.com/Scepter_of_the_Forlorn

Bodybagger
12-19-2014, 02:22 PM
THE WARRENS ARE BELONG TO ME, STAY OUT!


I am literally the only one who has been waiting for warrens haha

It's basically super BB/CB and isolated enough before PoK books that no one bothers you. Just a cool zone *shrug* It basically lead the way for the newbie tutorial dungeon imo,, seem to recall that's where that progression sort of started and followed, had a nice flow unlike bb/cb. CLASSIC train potential though lol

Unless something changed, when I made beta toons to go explore I was told they hadn't yet implemented it into beta?

Mendo
12-19-2014, 02:27 PM
My bro and I will live in the Warrens! We both already have lvl 1 Erudites created and ready to go!

Bodybagger
12-19-2014, 02:32 PM
*THIS JUST IN*


Reports flooding in from p99 red where I am reporting that I will in fact take over the warrens on my Troll and declare it "New Guk" and kill all who trespass while feasting on barbequed erudite.


Stay tuned for updates! #themuglwumpandfriends

Lictor
12-19-2014, 03:19 PM
So you are just copying chewy, how original

Portasaurus
12-19-2014, 04:28 PM
I am literally the only one who has been waiting for warrens haha

I was excited for The Warrens in March! Neener neener beat you to it!

http://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=142070&highlight=warrens

Bodybagger
12-19-2014, 06:14 PM
I was excited for The Warrens in March! Neener neener beat you to it!

http://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=142070&highlight=warrens

My last post form before my 10month hiatus was 2/28/14.... so I was excited for warrens in FEBRUARY at the lastest, if not JANUARY, because that's when I created Manapocalypse, my Erudite Mage and was devastated to remember Warrens wasn't implemented until post velious launch. :cool:

You have been weighed, measured, and found wanting of Warrens lust. ;)

SCB
12-19-2014, 09:40 PM
MY favorite thing about Velious coming out is people forgetting that it will be out until the server ends because there is currently no more planned content.

It is literally the perfect environment for a casual.

indiscriminate_hater
12-20-2014, 04:15 AM
MY favorite thing about Velious coming out is people forgetting that it will be out until the server ends because there is currently no more planned content.

It is literally the perfect environment for a casual.

Nice try... red?

iruinedyourday
12-20-2014, 04:55 AM
MY favorite thing about Velious coming out is people forgetting that it will be out until the server ends because there is currently no more planned content.

It is literally the perfect environment for a casual.

so true <3 this

webrunner5
12-20-2014, 11:09 AM
Originally Posted by SCB View Post
MY favorite thing about Velious coming out is people forgetting that it will be out until the server ends because there is currently no more planned content.

It is literally the perfect environment for a casual.

so true <3 this

"perfect environment for a casual", not too sure about that. My idea of a "casual player" is someone that probably solo's more than groups, because they do not have the time to spend in a group for hours at a time. Sure they will group if they can but mostly solo.

I am afraid that a LOT of classes on P1999 are really not cut out to solo much of anything in Velious that they will get XP on. You will be lucky to kill light blues. And then even if you can you will either be oom or out of HP. Either way you are going to have to sit on your butt for 8 minutes to get either back. Hardly a LOT of fun for a casual. And a lot of zones in Velious are sort of like the Karanas. Large zones with not a lot of mobs concentrated in them. A Tracking character will be a big help.

I play in Velious probably 3 times a week on other servers and played in it when it came out on a Ranger, Ghetto Gated a lot. :( It is a HARD expansion compared to Kunark mobs wise. And a lot of the zones are a million miles long if you have to run back to your corpse, which by the way, you will do a lot lol.

I am not saying Velious sucks it is just Hard Mode compared to now and I think it will be a bit frustrating to new and casual players. But nobody is going to turn down the expansion coming out on here. :D

Dragonslayer
12-20-2014, 12:07 PM
Yes, it does. "Casual" is a state of mind, not indicative of time spent.

I do believe though in this case the term casual was specifically intended to differentiate between an every day player no matter how many hours they play and a Guild involved Raider. It's in reference to what gear is attainable Solo/6 man group or in Raids.;)

Doil_Boil
12-20-2014, 12:24 PM
Druids:


Epic goes from one of the hardest to one of the easiest with Triggerable VS every day with 2 stones and Triggerable Faydedar 3/4 months into Velious
Snare+Root stacks 1 month into Velious
New 60 and 55 heals 2 months into Velious
Track Cap moved from 50->125, 3 months into Velious
Forage will guarantee you foraging a food or drink 4 months into Velious IF you are hungry/thirsty.
Egress castable indoors, Wind Ports castable from any zone occurs 6 months into Velious
Druid quest BP has clicky Group Regrowth, never having to spend 600 mana again to get your group regen is huge
Druid quest gloves has clicky level 49 DS. Perfect for PLing also useful for mana free DMG.
Druids get two new Fire debuff lines that reduce AC, ATK and FR
Druids get an indoor castable stun to interupt inside casters
Druids get a bear pet which is useful as extra mana pool (with reclaim energy clicky) or per pulling)
Cobalt Scar provides high level Quadding location for lazy druid play.
Western Wastes provides fun area for charm kiting at high levels that used to be limited to dungeons.
Sirens Grotto provides area for baller druids to duo/trio. Really gutsy druids may solo here... Very lucky or gear dependant to solo though.

No mention of PotG?

nivikk
12-20-2014, 01:18 PM
Druids:


Epic goes from one of the hardest to one of the easiest with Triggerable VS every day with 2 stones and Triggerable Faydedar 3/4 months into Velious
Snare+Root stacks 1 month into Velious
New 60 and 55 heals 2 months into Velious
Track Cap moved from 50->125, 3 months into Velious
Forage will guarantee you foraging a food or drink 4 months into Velious IF you are hungry/thirsty.
Egress castable indoors, Wind Ports castable from any zone occurs 6 months into Velious
Druid quest BP has clicky Group Regrowth, never having to spend 600 mana again to get your group regen is huge
Druid quest gloves has clicky level 49 DS. Perfect for PLing also useful for mana free DMG.
Druids get two new Fire debuff lines that reduce AC, ATK and FR
Druids get an indoor castable stun to interupt inside casters
Druids get a bear pet which is useful as extra mana pool (with reclaim energy clicky) or per pulling)
Cobalt Scar provides high level Quadding location for lazy druid play.
Western Wastes provides fun area for charm kiting at high levels that used to be limited to dungeons.
Sirens Grotto provides area for baller druids to duo/trio. Really gutsy druids may solo here... Very lucky or gear dependant to solo though.
druids still useless

Toodles
12-21-2014, 08:18 AM
I do believe though in this case the term casual was specifically intended to differentiate between an every day player no matter how many hours they play and a Guild involved Raider. It's in reference to what gear is attainable Solo/6 man group or in Raids.;)

I would agree with the sentiment that it's not necessarily time dependent in this context. The majority of 'guild involved raiders' don't play much of the game. They only park>login>kill>park>logoff.

Casuals play more than the hard core raiders, yet still too much time spent is not casual either.

Cecily
12-21-2014, 08:25 AM
I was excited for The Warrens in March! Neener neener beat you to it!

http://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=142070&highlight=warrens

I was excited for The Warrens in 2012 when my druid was 14. I was really upset they weren't in game.

Also, defining casuals as solo players, while certainly conducive to that play style, is silly. It's a group game. It's a whole metagame to see exactly what you can do on your own, particularly on classes not designed for solo play. My rogue started in Velious, and I know just how inhospitable that icy tundra can be without friends to do things with. Doesn't mean I didn't push the limits of the class as far as I could.

webrunner5
12-21-2014, 01:04 PM
druids still useless

I remember top end Druids, which I was not in that expansion, killing Lodizal pretty regularly Solo. Only say a Necro, Shaman and Druid that I know could do it. Not even too sure about the Nerco?? I think Enchanters were too Squishy and had too many resists to kill it often at the time. They sort of got a little bit Gimped in Velioius.

The damn thing summons and that is the biggest problem with it. Sort of the reason a Ogre shaman is the Best to take it on solo. :D And mine is a Bard on here, not good lol. :(

pharmakos
12-21-2014, 08:44 PM
hm how could a druid solo lodizal?

Daldaen
12-21-2014, 09:01 PM
hm how could a druid solo lodizal?

Luclin.

Dire Charm was unresistable so you could charm Coroduth. Little turtle quadded for 70. Toss 70% Haste + DS.

Also with Tunare's Renewal, druids could heal 3k HP for 400 mana.

Whirled
12-24-2014, 09:54 AM
I expended an EE on this thread so make it worth it =D

Will this quest work at Velious launch?
http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/quest.html?quest=1277

Cecily
12-24-2014, 11:51 AM
No, sadly.

Pending update, you may ask the Velious Beta Banker for some items only obtainable in the old world. To summarize, all of the listed Fusibility Research items, Velium Focus items, Mighty Snowfang Hero, and Crest of the Wood Nymphs.

Spirit of Garzicor and Nature's Defender will need to wait, as those are related to post-Velious revamps.

Whirled
12-24-2014, 05:11 PM
Thank you for that information ....and the bad news for the quests.
Guess I'll find other quests to do...
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