Bard Fire and Ice chants now unresistable in PVP

[Bazia]

cant resist ice and fire chants regardless of FR/CR

[SamwiseRed]

hmm just checked logs and bazia is actually correct. every one of my fire/ice chants landed. no idea if any of the people I was pvping had resists though. i was doting 5 different people at different times and no resists from Tuyens.

ask Narnesarus, Cell, Fatality, or Aviato if they have any FR/CR gear because all my chants landed.

[Bazia]

I have high Fr and cr with buffs 150+ ish

Cant resist It

[Technique]

They've got debuff effects for their corresponding resists, debuffs are being doubled, and Haynar used pvpresistbase values from Live.

What did you expect?

[Nirgon]

^ To resist the initial cast at 150 fr/cr

Tweaks will come complaints will continue no matter what

@ least a classic implementation is a perfectly defensible position aligned with the goals of the project

[SamwiseRed]

They've got debuff effects for their corresponding resists, debuffs are being doubled, and Haynar used pvpresistbase values from Live.

What did you expect?

im a newb and had no idea the ice and fire chants had debuff components BEFORE they landed.

[Infectious]

im a newb and had no idea the ice and fire chants had debuff components BEFORE they landed.

[vouss]

Was having ice chant land 100% of the time at 200+

[Smedy]

was told bard chants were broken, was under the impression they would get fixed (nerfed) with next patch?

unresistable fire and cold chants seems very unclassic, that debuff 100% buff really needs to come down to 50% like it was on live, i guess were all waiting on brogean to release the patch upon us

[SamwiseRed]

wasnt many bards on sz so who knows. would be cool if so but as you can see there isnt much infos on bard pvp as there is other classes. bard was just one of those classes you didnt see a lot compared to red99.

[Bazia]

not resisting initial ice or fire chant at 200+ resist is stupid sorry youlath

used to be resistable around 100+

[Slathar]

These were resisted constantly on naked characters during Velious. This is broken.

[SamwiseRed]

These were resisted constantly on naked characters during Velious. This is broken.

got prof?

[Lasher]

http://wiki.project1999.com/Tuyen%27s_Chant_of_Flame

http://lucy.allakhazam.com/spell.html?id=743&setcookie=1

https://web.archive.org/web/20010505183434/http://eq.castersrealm.com/spells/bard/spelldescriptions.asp?SpellID=27

I used this song only for a short period of time in Sol B. The taunt rate is awfully high and caused more troubles than it helped. Also because it is combined DoT and resistaence lowering it is hard to stick to mobs. It will be tested for resist two times. Once for damage and once for reduction of fire resistance.


Not sure how it can be aruged to be unresitable. Its not flagged as unresistable such as malo or tash is and it does not have a -300 fire mod like lure spells.

Wayback machine, has guy saying it can be hard to stick on mobs. This song was not flagged any different in pvp. Bards always had to fiddle with their chants to find your lowest resist so they can get other chants on.

[Nirgon]

Usually resulted in them sticking cold one or two times after tonnnns of attempts on me (this was with blue diamond gear tho)

[derpcake]

..

You quoted a post saying fire chant doesn't work well in sol B.

Did you read and consider that crap, before quoting it and presenting it as "proof"?

Good for you I ain't a mod.

[Nirgon]

It wasn't hard to resist at all really bud, promise

[derpcake]

Its just really terrible proof, that's all.

[Lasher]

You quoted a post saying fire chant doesn't work well in sol B.

Did you read and consider that crap, before quoting it and presenting it as "proof"?

Good for you I ain't a mod.

Terrible proof? So if it was unresistable it would land in sol b even with their high fr. I've given evidence of post during showing its not unresistanble


Unresistable spells land on mobs even if they have higj resists

[Smedy]

lasher has come a long way from arguing that druid epic should be unresistable and unlimited range to this, good boy, i agree with everything mr horsecock has said, there's no evidence at all that the chants were unresistable, actually there's some evidence that they weren't.