Looking for some tips

[Ishio]

So I have a level 9 Druid, which I'm liking, but not liking the need to be in a group to do decently. I am in CB and it's hard for me to kill things solo, so I'm always relying on groups. With the lack of traveling, I'm kind of stuck where I'm at. I get about a level in about an hour and a half to two hours.

With that, I also have a level 4 Necromancer, which I am really liking a lot more than the Druid, but am somewhat determined to stick with the Druid due to traveling abilities, buffs, so I can try to help out people with ports and buffage.

My question to you, as I like both classes, what am I doing wrong where leveling is taking my quite a bit longer than other people I am seeing here on the forums.

I am untwinked, of course, and platless, so gearing myself to help take on harder mobs, is out of the question. My skills are up to par on both toons.

[Eyry]

Keep in mind that this is Classic EQ and not World of Warcraft. It is harder to exp in this game. Some classes are group based, some are solo. Druids can solo perfectly fine at higher levels than your at now, but until you reach those levels, you are stuck in a group.

[Ishio]

I realize this isn't WoW, and as I've posted before in other threads, I want no change in the EXP gain. I am just wondering if, since I'm seeing other people level faster than me, if I am not doing something right, or just not in the right zone.

[Eyry]

I realize this is WoW, and as I've posted before in other threads, I want no change in the EXP gain. I am just wondering if, since I'm seeing other people level faster than me, if I am not doing something right, or just not in the right zone.

No no...I said this is NOT WoW....

[Lagaidh]

I've played hybrids and wis casters. Take the time to really understand your class's abilities and you won't really have trouble soloing to at least 15 if that's what you want to do.

My "I want to be alone" alt toon in Live was a druid. Leveled him to 50 all by his lonesome. My main did a good bit of soloing as a paladin and duos to L54 or so. After that I grouped most of the time.

Druid? Read up on the class. You could solo forever if that's what you really want.

[Wizerud]

I don't see the issue in leveling at the rate you mentioned if you're untwinked. Druids have it easier than a lot of classes do when soloing.

[Ishio]

Oops, typo. Sorry, question still stands though. Does it seem like I'm doing alright, or should I be combining some quests with my Crushbone grind?

[azeth]

The thing is until your druid is capable of kiting you are actually one of the slowest solo classes (of the classes that are even capable of soloing). If you want to play a druid, just stick it out and eventually you'll find yourself quad kiting for 3 blue a round.

[Ishio]

I've played hybrids and wis casters. Take the time to really understand your class's abilities and you won't really have trouble soloing to at least 15 if that's what you want to do.

My "I want to be alone" alt toon in Live was a druid. Leveled him to 50 all by his lonesome. My main did a good bit of soloing as a paladin and duos to L54 or so. After that I grouped most of the time.

Druid? Read up on the class. You could solo forever if that's what you really want.

It's not so much, this is what I want. It's more, would I learn my class better and have more fun/get better exp if I went solo? Or am I doing alright being in a group? So far it's just me meleeing mobs, and occasionally casting a DD, sometimes a DoT.

[Duuvyenx]

Druid have different play styles depending on if your in a group or solo, you would be wise to learn both. Solo is simply root, dot. Later in life you can quad kite or fear kite. In a group you usually heal, but occasionally you will get to nuke. Druids aren't the best nukers or healers but can fill in if needed. IIRC dots are more mana efficient then nukes. And if you have a partner you can agro kite with dots and flamelick.

[oldhead]

dont compare yourself to others.

How fast you level depends on a few things.

Class

Plat

Play time.

Knowledge of the game

[Ishio]

dont compare yourself to others.

How fast you level depends on a few things.

Class Dr00d

Plat None

Play time. I try to get a few hours in.

Knowledge of the game I know a basic understanding of the game. I'm very familiar with BST's but they aren't in the game, and I don't miss them being in the game.

I have read a good way to make some money, especially as a druid, is to take up tailoring. Thoughts?

Also, thank you all for the advice given so far.

[Duuvyenx]

I have read a good way to make some money, especially as a druid, is to take up tailoring. Thoughts?

Also, thank you all for the advice given so far.

I would say.. no. I have found farming to be the best way to make money. I say this because i have never bought a tailored item, but i could be wrong.

[azeth]

I have read a good way to make some money, especially as a druid, is to take up tailoring. Thoughts?

Also, thank you all for the advice given so far.


yea i wouldnt consider anything but Alchemy and Jewelcrafting for $$ making trade skills. like the post above stated, your best bet once appropriately leveled will be to farm for your $.

[Ishio]

What should I be farming? What CAN I farm at my level? Besides bone chips, though I hear 2pp a stack isn't bad.

[azeth]

What should I be farming? What CAN I farm at my level? Besides bone chips, though I hear 2pp a stack isn't bad.

ya know im not going to project my play style onto you, but I really would not think for more than a second about collecting plat or even gear until you gain some levels.

my approach to mmos is always to bust my butt and do everything i can/allocate all my time to leveling and then come back for the gear/plat. I do understand however many classes need to gear up to really viably play the game, however in your case this is not... the case.

[Ishio]

Even with my current cost for spells? I struggled just a bit to get my level 9 spells, and fear that I may not make enough for my next set. Especially since most of the people I group with /autoloot before I can even take a turn.

I'm always up for trying anything really. I don't care, my main goals are exploring the world/making money not for self benefit/levels. In that order.

When i say making money, not for self benefit. I like to make money and then give some to starting players. I always did this. In WoW, and EQ2 when I played. I didn't do it when I played EQLive, because I was very young and was focused on exploring.

Basically it's my way of repaying back the community for a few good eggs that I've dealt with.

[HippoNipple]

Even with my current cost for spells? I struggled just a bit to get my level 9 spells, and fear that I may not make enough for my next set. Especially since most of the people I group with /autoloot before I can even take a turn.

I'm always up for trying anything really. I don't care, my main goals are exploring the world/making money not for self benefit/levels. In that order.

When i say making money, not for self benefit. I like to make money and then give some to starting players. I always did this. In WoW, and EQ2 when I played. I didn't do it when I played EQLive, because I was very young and was focused on exploring.

Basically it's my way of repaying back the community for a few good eggs that I've dealt with.



Well Azeth was telling you to not worry about accumulating large wealth until later on because when you think about it spending an hour when you are level 20 making $ will equate to about 5 minutes of work once you are 50.

Now if you are needing some plat to buy some spells, then yes of course do whatever short term farming you need to do. Go get some bone chips and sell them for 5pp a stack, not 2pp.

Don't worry about giving back to the community at your level. Just level up and port me around.

[azeth]

^ what he said.

[Virtuosos]

tell you what....level the necro that you love more than the druid...play the druid on the side when you need a break, once your necro is high enough you can easily farm your druid items and money just by fear-kiting mobs....which you can then give to your druid



yes i know, i win :p

[Estu]

I soloed my druid to I think level 11 before I switched over to the shaman. It was a bit of a pain, but not really that bad, especially not after I got my level 9 spells - thorns helps a lot. Basically, if I recall correctly, I'd thorns up and just melee the mob, maybe nuke once or twice, and then tree up to heal. Not super-fast, but there are certainly worse soloers at that level. Once you hit 14 and get SoW you can kite effectively and it'll get way easier. 2 hours a level is nothing; on my shaman right now, who's 26, I'm doing 4 hours a level at my very fastest, usually more like 5 due to bad pulls or competing for monsters. You really shouldn't judge a class based on how it plays at level 9. Of course, if you're in Crushbone, the quests you should be doing are the Crushbone belts and shoulderpads. Although if you're strapped for cash, it may be wiser to sell the former for 1pp each and the latter for 2pp each (although you get about half that money doing the quests anyway).

Selling bone chips is a great way to make money as a lowbie in general, but not specifically in Faydwer, as demand tends to be pretty low (not a lot of necros running around). They generally go for 5-10pp a stack if you can find a buyer. If not, run to Kaladim and give them four at a time to Gunlok Jure of the paladin guild for a few gold and some experience (the experience is excellent at lower levels, but if you have a few stacks it can still be substantial at your level).

I didn't even have enough money to get all my spells on my druid when I hit 9; the good news is that not all of them are strictly necessary. I'm a perfectionist, though, and insist on having every spell. Another nice way to farm up some plat is killing green goblins in Butcherblock (not the warriors or whelps, though). They'll drop a few gold every kill, and while the casters are tougher, they'll also drop gems.

[oldhead]

dont compare yourself to others.

How fast you level depends on a few things.

Class Dr00d

Plat None

Play time. I try to get a few hours in.

Knowledge of the game I know a basic understanding of the game. I'm very familiar with BST's but they aren't in the game, and I don't miss them being in the game.


I have read a good way to make some money, especially as a druid, is to take up tailoring. Thoughts?

Also, thank you all for the advice given so far.


then you will level incredibly slow compared to someone who can play 10 hours a day and have 100,000p to twink with.


As far as making plat? Just loot and sell vendor junk as you level. plat will come. Its a waste of effort to try and force it.

[Bubbles]

By the time you get that druid to 34 to start making the real plat money Taxi Service gravy train (ppl with money want Lavastorm and Feerot, face it), your necro could be 50 and laughing at the money your druid is losing 300mana a cast to scrape together bit by bit.

There's your friendly warning. :)

[Ishio]

By the time you get that druid to 34 to start making the real plat money Taxi Service gravy train (ppl with money want Lavastorm and Feerot, face it), your necro could be 50 and laughing at the money your druid is losing 300mana a cast to scrape together bit by bit.

There's your friendly warning. :)

Friendly warning?

Anyways, I figured out a way to get a decent amount of xp on my necro, but kiting yellow's and sometimes red's so long as there's a kind soul, eg: Psych, in EC willing to keep a SoW up on me. Except that stupid griffin keeps killing me when I least expect it.

God I love this game.

[CHusk2]

A few buddies of mine played druids back in the day and it always seemed like they were 2x ahead of me in terms of experience (They did play a lot more than I did). I've always heard that druids are one of the best solo classes in the game, as kiting is effective in many areas.

On that note, I am a level 19 completely untwinked cleric and even though it takes a LONG time for me to level soloing, it's completely possible. Especially against undead. I've seen people solo untwinked rogues to 30 (not really sure why you would do that) and i've seen necromancers who always had a group. It all depends on your play style. I assure you that you can do the things that are enjoyable to you while still progressing in levels.

Regurgatonic quest, homie. That's all i'm sayin'. :)

[Raavak]

ya know im not going to project my play style onto you, but I really would not think for more than a second about collecting plat or even gear until you gain some levels.

my approach to mmos is always to bust my butt and do everything i can/allocate all my time to leveling and then come back for the gear/plat. I do understand however many classes need to gear up to really viably play the game, however in your case this is not... the case.

Right, you can have alot of wis gear and a large mana pool, but you still med at the same rate as everyone else, so assuming you have enough mana to kill something, it doesn't matter (soloing anyway).

Grouping it plays a bigger roll if you have to heal on an overpull or something, bur otherwise just learn to play with what you have.

Bad thing about P99 is the farming. On live in '99 you could just group at a mob to get an item you needed for an upgrade. These days you are more likely going to be forced to buy it from a farmer.

[Serrack]

By the time you get that druid to 34 to start making the real plat money Taxi Service gravy train (ppl with money want Lavastorm and Feerot, face it), your necro could be 50 and laughing at the money your druid is losing 300mana a cast to scrape together bit by bit.

Best advice you are going to get really.

Alternatively, play the class and style that is fun for you, and don't worry about money and exp gain. That's the lesser chosen path which could be the most rewarding long term.

[Engraverwilliam]

Keep in mind that this is Classic EQ and not World of Warcraft. It is harder to exp in this game. Some classes are group based, some are solo. Druids can solo perfectly fine at higher levels than your at now, but until you reach those levels, you are stuck in a group.


I would say that this isnt entirely true. I soloed my druid very successfully. Get on the boat to freeport and hunt Ro! You wont level fast by soloing so just forget about that exp bar and have fun. When you hear that DING! you will get a smile on your face. Just play and have fun.

[Braveguard]

Don't neglect Flame Lick. That oft overlooked little spell is a decent boost for a long time.

[Ishio]

I gave the game a fair shot. I got sick of no grouping, then trying to find a solo spot, to be ambushed, then going to WC on guild's suggestion and dying there and not having a way back to retrieve my corpse.

[Bubbles]

If you listen closely enough, in the distance you can hear two Blizzard executives Hi-Fiving each other.

[Ishio]

Except, I wouldn't give them my money.

[Hasbinbad]

If you listen closely enough, in the distance you can hear two Blizzard executives Hi-Fiving each other.
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