just starting on Red

[Glosk]

Heya,

I moved over from blue to see how Red is. I'm rolling a chanter, level 7 currently. If anyone is interested in joining me, let me know. I can be on at any hour of the day, depends on work.

Vast
7 Enchanter, Red server 99

[bigstuff]

awesome dude, it's a tough road but a lot of fun.

[Bodybagger]

please let me know which zone so I can bring you a gift basket of happy flowers!

I hope you're good at enchanter, they are tough to play pvp coz you use different spells than pve, so easy to get caught off guard.

Serious friendly newb tips: 1) keep gate memmed and never drop under 100 mana with players in area 2) keep see invis up at all times. rogue+pumice=easy newb ganks

[Glosk]

Thanks for the tips.

Since this is my first character. What class do you recommend?

Im currently in Qeynos hills as a erudite, havnt bound nearby yet *gulps* so might be headed back to Toxxulia soon

[Akalakamelee]

Thanks for the tips.

Since this is my first character. What class do you recommend?

Im currently in Qeynos hills as a erudite, havnt bound nearby yet *gulps* so might be headed back to Toxxulia soon

If you need a bind I'm sure I can get ya taken care of, msg miku in game

[Tassador]

please let me know which zone so I can bring you a gift basket of happy flowers!

I hope you're good at enchanter, they are tough to play pvp coz you use different spells than pve, so easy to get caught off guard.

Serious friendly newb tips: 1) keep gate memmed and never drop under 100 mana with players in area 2) keep see invis up at all times. rogue+pumice=easy newb ganks

Lol basically this guy is paranoid. Should ask lite for them camera angles so you can actually med and not gate away with 100 mana and players in zone.

[Duckwalk]

Naked/low level casters are pretty difficult to pvp with due to low mana pools, lack of spells. Don't get discouraged. Don't stress about PvP.

Most of the time is just easier to bind frequently and eat a gank than waste a gem slot. Most people are pretty cool and won't mess with you too much assuming you don't completely freak out upon getting killed.

General leveling path follows gfay>CB>Unrest>MM. If you're looking for groups up to the mid 30s that's where you'll find the majority of them. PKs will be pretty thick but just bank frequently and bind close, you'll out level them quickly.

Personally, I'd recommend waiting to join a guild until you've had a chance to feel out the situation as it's constantly in flux and there is no reason to burn potential group partners on your way to 60 because of a tag you derive very little benefit from.

Group with everyone, don't burn bridges and learn to pvp.

[Bodybagger]

Lol basically this guy is paranoid. Should ask lite for them camera angles so you can actually med and not gate away with 100 mana and players in zone.

Yeah... no pvp to watch out for on PVP server ever for newbs... Sounds like Holoscum propaganda to me. :rolleyes:


Nothing wrong with playing enchanter OP, any class you'll want to follow those tips when applicable. Play what you enjoy playing.

[PVP Cleric]

Should ask lite for them camera angles so you can actually med and not gate away with 100 mana and players in zone.

What can you do with the camera angles besides mousewheel out and the different F9 ones?

[Glosk]

I got a bind at Qeynos, woot! Im spending some time reading up on the pvp stuff, like will guards aggro if you are attacked from another player nearby. Some players con Indiff and others Threatingly, not sure whats that about yet

Thanks everyone for the responses

[Akalakamelee]

Avoid Gfay it's full of fungi twinks. Lvl in blackburrow on gnoll fangs. The you can charm burn in wk or eruds for awhile

[dontbanpls]

Naked/low level casters are pretty difficult to pvp with due to low mana pools, lack of spells. Don't get discouraged. Don't stress about PvP.

Most of the time is just easier to bind frequently and eat a gank than waste a gem slot. Most people are pretty cool and won't mess with you too much assuming you don't completely freak out upon getting killed.

General leveling path follows gfay>CB>Unrest>MM. If you're looking for groups up to the mid 30s that's where you'll find the majority of them. PKs will be pretty thick but just bank frequently and bind close, you'll out level them quickly.

Personally, I'd recommend waiting to join a guild until you've had a chance to feel out the situation as it's constantly in flux and there is no reason to burn potential group partners on your way to 60 because of a tag you derive very little benefit from.

Group with everyone, don't burn bridges and learn to pvp.

Look into <Fresh> if you are getting started and you'll see a lot of benefit from it!

[Bodybagger]

I got a bind at Qeynos, woot! Im spending some time reading up on the pvp stuff, like will guards aggro if you are attacked from another player nearby. Some players con Indiff and others Threatingly, not sure whats that about yet

Thanks everyone for the responses

If my human wizard has better faction I can attack you and guards don't care, but if you fight back they will crush you. Bad times.

Joining <Fresh> is a good way to get killed by all of the people who like to kill people on the server. Though it's also a good way to get some help possibly... but mostly Fresh is getting to be as bad as Holo it seems and I'd just assume engage any of them.

I would enjoy blackburrow, grind, save gnoll fangs up all til lvl 15 or so then hand all in you've collected. maximizes xp from kills while you're there. From there you can make the trek to Neriak and do some great leveling and grouping in Najena and Solusek A

[Akalakamelee]

If my human wizard has better faction I can attack you and guards don't care, but if you fight back they will crush you. Bad times.

Joining <Fresh> is a good way to get killed by all of the people who like to kill people on the server. Though it's also a good way to get some help possibly... but mostly Fresh is getting to be as bad as Holo it seems and I'd just assume engage any of them.

I would enjoy blackburrow, grind, save gnoll fangs up all til lvl 15 or so then hand all in you've collected. maximizes xp from kills while you're there. From there you can make the trek to Neriak and do some great leveling and grouping in Najena and Solusek A

Fresh is alright, I see as the members level they are getting into politics of high end guilds, siding almost exclusively with one. While this does help with raids and etc, it also makes them a target for the opposing guild.
Your best bet is to join a smaller guild, or to simply make some pals along the way. be careful when LFG, never advertise your exact level in ooc. Give a range, ex: low 30s, high 20s, etc.

[Duckwalk]

Yes lots of fungi twinks in Faydwer. The difference between elf lands and BB though is that while you are still working towards level 10-12 soloing in Qeynos Hills and outer/upper BB, you would be working your way through 20 in Unrest and heading over to find a pond group in MM.

For reference, I did 1-12 in just a couple of hours in gfay/cb. Then the next day I did 12-20 in about 3-4 hours in Unrest yard and later MR. Then the third session I did 20-29 in just a few hours at MM pond. Fourth session I did 29-34 in FM over maybe 2 hours.

If youre in love with the lowbie game definitely take your time and enjoy it. If you've done it already multiple times and rather enjoy 30+ content with decent sized mana pools and a fuller tool box I would highly encourage you to take advantage of groups and the group experience bonus.

[Bodybagger]

Rushing to 30 with no gear or spell money doesn't help anyone... if you want to do that I suggest rolling a melee character... then you just need 1 single item to dps with, weapon. War/pal/sk are expected to be able to tank so more gear dependent, but rogue literally only needs a half decent weapon to speed grind from 1-40+ like that, and then can have epic in a weeks time or so easily making a few friends.

A lot of people mock it but honestly, rogue is probably one of the best starting classes ironically. You lose nothing leveling quickly, you need almost no equipment to pve up in levels, you get your best in slot weapon to continue pve domination with little to no effort, and then you are just looking at some minimal gearing for resists to be good *shrug* rogue not THAT gear dependent unless you want to be able to 1v1 a lot.

[Akalakamelee]

It only takes 1 fungi twink to wreck a group in rags. Force them to call LnS, then enforce it. If someone is enough of a dick this could continue for hours. At least in qeynos area, it's harder to travel to, so fungi twinks don't bother. Think about port locations. Freeport and Gfay have a ton in lower areas, while the closest to qeynos is west karana or north (Toxxulia if they ride the boat) fungi gankers spend upwards of 200-300kp on gear. 50p per port is nothing to them, they usually get ports from their high end buddies anyways. Gfay may be faster with groups, but qeynos is alot safer and easier in the end.

[dontbanpls]

If my human wizard has better faction I can attack you and guards don't care, but if you fight back they will crush you. Bad times.

Joining <Fresh> is a good way to get killed by all of the people who like to kill people on the server. Though it's also a good way to get some help possibly... but mostly Fresh is getting to be as bad as Holo it seems and I'd just assume engage any of them.

I would enjoy blackburrow, grind, save gnoll fangs up all til lvl 15 or so then hand all in you've collected. maximizes xp from kills while you're there. From there you can make the trek to Neriak and do some great leveling and grouping in Najena and Solusek A

The people that kill everyone on the server do that to people regardless of their tag. The benefit of joining <Fresh> far outweighs the consequence of being on a list you are already on. Furthermore, what exactly does as bad as holo mean? Are we bad because we are successful in making friends and keeping our guild moving forward?

[Duckwalk]

It only takes 1 fungi twink to wreck a group in rags. Force them to call LnS, then enforce it. If someone is enough of a dick this could continue for hours. At least in qeynos area, it's harder to travel to, so fungi twinks don't bother. Think about port locations. Freeport and Gfay have a ton in lower areas, while the closest to qeynos is west karana or north (Toxxulia if they ride the boat) fungi gankers spend upwards of 200-300kp on gear. 50p per port is nothing to them, they usually get ports from their high end buddies anyways. Gfay may be faster with groups, but qeynos is alot safer and easier in the end.

If you're trying to avoid pvp/people entirely then sure.

Despite pk twinks there is something to be said for leveling around them and learning how to deal with/be aware of them. Red is a different mind set from blue and learning to set up /who logs, keep see invis/buffs/health up and figuring out which spells are worthless and which are useful is as important as actually getting YT.

Group leveling will far outpace solo leveling despite PKs actively trying to wreck groups. Coincidentally, learning to deal with griefers is also an important part of Red99.

Finally, you should quickly out level PKs in just a session or two so although annoying they are almost a non-factor. It only takes a bag or two of looted bronze to equip a caster in their important spells per lvl and money only gets easier as you start killing mobs who drop gems etc.

[Akalakamelee]

The people that kill everyone on the server do that to people regardless of their tag. The benefit of joining <Fresh> far outweighs the consequence of being on a list you are already on. Furthermore, what exactly does as bad as holo mean? Are we bad because we are successful in making friends and keeping our guild moving forward?

I can't say this for *all* holo members, most are just brainwashed puppets controlled by a leader with the mentality of a child with too much mountain dew.

[Bodybagger]

The people that kill everyone on the server do that to people regardless of their tag. The benefit of joining <Fresh> far outweighs the consequence of being on a list you are already on. Furthermore, what exactly does as bad as holo mean? Are we bad because we are successful in making friends and keeping our guild moving forward?

Where is your guild moving forward? Towards Holo? That isn't moving forwards on red, that's moving backwards towards blue.

I was in good with several <Fresh> players before but then it turned into a warm bodies guild and got stupid.

I don't like playing with random assholes. If I can't expect a certain level of quality form a character with a <Tag> then why are they tagged?

[Fame]

Duckwalk gets it, yay! I'm unbanned!!!

[dontbanpls]

Where is your guild moving forward? Towards Holo? That isn't moving forwards on red, that's moving backwards towards blue.

I was in good with several <Fresh> players before but then it turned into a warm bodies guild and got stupid.

I don't like playing with random assholes. If I can't expect a certain level of quality form a character with a <Tag> then why are they tagged?

You seem to have it all figured out even tho you have no involvement. I doubt anything I can say is going to be read without bias so I'll let you be angry.

[daasgoot]

Duckwalk gets it, yay! I'm unbanned!!!

pras. WB.

[Tassador]

Server so blue now they should turn off pvp

[SamwiseRed]

Heya,

I moved over from blue to see how Red is. I'm rolling a chanter, level 7 currently. If anyone is interested in joining me, let me know. I can be on at any hour of the day, depends on work.

Vast
7 Enchanter, Red server 99

i own the name glosk on red. how much you gimme for it?

[SamwiseRed]

http://i.imgur.com/iD2o8M2.jpg

[Akalakamelee]

You seem to have it all figured out even tho you have no involvement. I doubt anything I can say is going to be read without bias so I'll let you be angry.

Everyone knows that fresh and holo at least maybe until recently have had a loose alliance. If you deny it your stupid, I have seen it. You can feel free to debate my statement like a civil adult and I will do the same if you would like. However I am pretty confident I will win that debate.

[dontbanpls]

Everyone knows that fresh and holo at least maybe until recently have had a loose alliance. If you deny it your stupid, I have seen it. You can feel free to debate my statement like a civil adult and I will do the same if you would like. However I am pretty confident I will win that debate.

You don't even understand that I lead the guild and you're calling me stupid as you challenge me to be a civil adult? I think I'll pass since you are just going off on a tangent anyway. Your response has nothing to do with the reply I made to that other comment it is just a way for you to keep stirring the pot.

[Akalakamelee]

I said if you deny it your stupid. Even if an alliance isn't true, the rest of the server sees it this way. I don't dislike fresh at all, they have some quality members and are lead by a decent leader. Far better then holocaust. I certainly hope fresh can obtain it's true independence.
I will say this, I know the guys in fresh that stuck it out since the start have done well to build that guild. I'm looking foward to seeing you guys I'm groups, and on the battlefield.

[Humerox]

Everyone knows that fresh and holo at least maybe until recently have had a loose alliance. If you deny it your stupid, I have seen it. You can feel free to debate my statement like a civil adult and I will do the same if you would like. However I am pretty confident I will win that debate.

<Fresh> knows their position on the server, however they're getting stronger every day, and relying less and less on any kind of alliance - loose or otherwise - with anyone. It made sense to make nice with Holocaust at first but it's moved from being a necessity to being purely an option, and one that doesn't come up very often anymore.

<Fresh> does its own thing. The guild is relaxed and is becoming very organized and efficient. It will be interesting to watch what happens as more of their members reach 60.

[Akalakamelee]

<Fresh> knows their position on the server, however they're getting stronger every day, and relying less and less on any kind of alliance - loose or otherwise - with anyone. It made sense to make nice with Holocaust at first but it's moved from being a necessity to being purely an option, and one that doesn't come up very often anymore.

<Fresh> does its own thing. The guild is relaxed and is becoming very organized and efficient. It will be interesting to watch what happens as more of their members reach 60.

I think that's a good thing. More diversity at the top end can only benefit the server as a whole. also can create more pvp, which Is why we are all here to begin with.

[Purp]

aka guilds that come to your aid in pvp*