RMT Again

[zanderklocke]

log on your 60 iksar SK on blue and prove it

Ouch.

That ban was like 1.5-2 years ago now or so right?

I'm pretty sure all of Knightt's characters since then are still instated.

[quido]

I'm not disputing that, just pointing out that Knightt is still banned on a number of accounts, and up until I stopped being in the same TS as him recently, cried about his situation on an almost daily basis.

[RIP The Jacka]

i lost 8 characters

waiting for resolution to prove innocent

[Shatford]

Of the 440 banned, how many will actually stay banned? 20?

[Stormfists]

Not sure on the reinstated/remaining banned ratio as since I'm new here I don't know the history here with regard to RMT bans but if Rogean and co feel it appropriate to unban people then they will, if not then they won't. As they say in business - facts and figures are king.

For me, I don't expect to be unbanned any time soon. On the plus it's given me time and no excuses to get back in the gym :)

[Lemiddar]

Of the 440 banned, how many will actually stay banned? 20?

I'd take the over, if this was a betting line. If you said 20 actual people - rather than it being an account total - I wouldn't be surprised if that was much closer to accurate.

[Sirken]

Of the 440 banned, how many will actually stay banned? 20?

i banned ~130 of the accounts. i released 12 of them.

[QuantumZebra]

Rogean, if a petition is flagged for your review do you prefer a 24-hour bump of the thread like Sirken requests? Or is it counterproductive?

your sig dude.... goddamn

[Tameth]

i banned ~130 of the accounts. i released 12 of them.

Sirken, any chance you could pick up some of the others?

[wycca]

The tiny handful of people I saw banned and who are unbanned usually were doing - Chardok AE, epic mq's, and red/blue xfers - stuff that can be super hard to verify that it was above-board. They also were generally able to prove their innocence. Some of the biggest farmers I know of on the server have never been banned - all their transactions are traditional. Also, alot of equipment lends, gifts of plat, etc don't result in bans. This all tells me the people getting banned, are for the most part, not the innocent.

Point is, the GMs have gotten pretty darn good at this IMO. If ever in doubt - ss and turn a log on for all conversations/transactions so it can later be verified.

[RIP The Jacka]

The tiny handful of people I saw banned and who are unbanned usually were doing - Chardok AE, epic mq's, and red/blue xfers - stuff that can be super hard to verify that it was above-board. They also were generally able to prove their innocence. Some of the biggest farmers I know of on the server have never been banned - all their transactions are traditional. Also, alot of equipment lends, gifts of plat, etc don't result in bans. This all tells me the people getting banned, are for the most part, not the innocent.

Point is, the GMs have gotten pretty darn good at this IMO. If ever in doubt - ss and turn a log on for all conversations/transactions so it can later be verified.

they find confirmed sellers and ban off those sellers trades

sometimes innocent people are handed money and items in bank areas to throw this off and cause innocent bans

sometimes confirmed sellers make legitimate trades, i.e. cross-server with someone not rmting

just as an fyi to your comment

[Sektor]

they find confirmed sellers and ban off those sellers trades

sometimes innocent people are handed money and items in bank areas to throw this off and cause innocent bans

sometimes confirmed sellers make legitimate trades, i.e. cross-server with someone not rmting

just as an fyi to your comment

You've been rmting for years, just stop it you got caught.

For the people who don't know who this guy is his name is Rettiwalk, he was originally banned for stripping and deleting peoples accounts. He also rmted with Mellowyellow and his excuse for his paypals records were "I paid him to do my homework for me" LOL

[myalcador]

Still waiting on my petition to be resolved. It's been viewed 12 times, no replies from any GMs... very irritating, I've done nothing wrong. What's the hold up on a response? Even just a quick "we're investigating" would be nice, then I'd at least know that SOMETHING is happening...

Do your job GMs!! You started this project, people donate funds to keep it rocking, and you did the massive ban wave... it's now time to exercise adequate customer service skills for your customers. You need to set more realistic expectations for people who join p1999 - have extra accounts or trade too often and you will most likely be scooped into a ban wave. Then you will wait weeks before you find out if your request is even being processed.

/endrant

[Stormfists]

Do your job GMs!!

Shots fired, I repeat shots fired!

[Lubian]

exercise adequate customer service skills for your customers
wait weeks
customers? weeks?

You didn't pay to play here, so you're not a 'customer'. I feel like you could be a customer to someone else though ;). And it hasn't been a week since the ban wave, so how could it be "wait weeks?"

[Clasick]

extra accounts or trade too often and you will most likely be scooped into a ban wave

You sir are an idiot and I hope you get a forum ban for disrespecting the staff. Pro tip for you; acting like an entitled douche bag will not get you your desired results. I assume if you're acting like this on the forums you're shitting up your petition thread as well

Who the hell do you think you are demanding anything on a server that provided as free to play.

[Rais]

Annnnnd back to the end of line in the petition queue he goes.

[Sirken]

Still waiting on my petition to be resolved. It's been viewed 12 times, no replies from any GMs... very irritating, I've done nothing wrong. What's the hold up on a response? Even just a quick "we're investigating" would be nice, then I'd at least know that SOMETHING is happening...

Do your job GMs!! You started this project, people donate funds to keep it rocking, and you did the massive ban wave... it's now time to exercise adequate customer service skills for your customers. You need to set more realistic expectations for people who join p1999 - have extra accounts or trade too often and you will most likely be scooped into a ban wave. Then you will wait weeks before you find out if your request is even being processed.

/endrant

since you wanna make it public, your account was banned by Rogean for RMT. you probably didnt think we log the method you used. or maybe you thought deleting the character would help cover your tracks. i dunno.

now stop spamming our forums with your crap, and wait for Rogean to respond to your petition thread. but having just reviewed the logs surrounding your account ban, i wouldnt get your hopes up.

[baalzy]

Do your job GMs!!

/endrant

That's probably what they are doing. Their normal day jobs that they actually get paid to do and in the case of Rog (at least I assume, dunno where server money comes from), use to pay for this server.

[Thulack]

since you wanna make it public, your account was banned by Rogean for RMT. you probably didnt think we log the method you used. or maybe you thought deleting the character would help cover your tracks. i dunno.

now stop spamming our forums with your crap, and wait for Rogean to respond to your petition thread. but having just reviewed the logs surrounding your account ban, i wouldnt get your hopes up.

And this is why when you RMT you should really just put your tail between your legs, be thankful that they let you start over and enjoy Everquest for what it is/was.

[Itap]

since you wanna make it public, your account was banned by Rogean for RMT. you probably didnt think we log the method you used. or maybe you thought deleting the character would help cover your tracks. i dunno.

now stop spamming our forums with your crap, and wait for Rogean to respond to your petition thread. but having just reviewed the logs surrounding your account ban, i wouldnt get your hopes up.

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[maskedmelon]

You need to set more realistic expectations for people who join p1999 - have extra accounts or trade too often and you will most likely be scooped into a ban wave.



I can only imagine your frustration, but that is just simply not true. I've spent most of my total P99 playtime in EC and have not been lumped in with RMT bans. There was undoubtedly one unfortunate incident you were involved in that was suspicious for one reason or another. Frequent trading or even transferring items does not automatically flag you as an RMTer. Of course the transfers could be dangerous I suppose if they were high value items, but who asks random strangers to help them transer a fungi or 100kpp?

[Thulack]

Still waiting on my petition to be resolved. It's been viewed 12 times, no replies from any GMs... very irritating, I've done nothing wrong. What's the hold up on a response? Even just a quick "we're investigating" would be nice, then I'd at least know that SOMETHING is happening...

Do your job GMs!! You started this project, people donate funds to keep it rocking, and you did the massive ban wave... it's now time to exercise adequate customer service skills for your customers. You need to set more realistic expectations for people who join p1999 - have extra accounts or trade too often and you will most likely be scooped into a ban wave. Then you will wait weeks before you find out if your request is even being processed.

/endrant

I have 18 accounts and none have been banned other then 1 that i got while account trading was legal and the previous owner was a RMTer. Luckily i had gone through Bob and had logs and was cleared. Also Bongs has had more then 6 or 8k transactions or something like that last time i was told and i've never been banned on the account. So no if you do tons of trades or have a lot of accounts you wont automatically get caught up in it. In your case you just RMT'd and decided to come here and whine for whatever reason.

[Erica]

I can only imagine your frustration, but that is just simply not true. I've spent most of my total P99 playtime in EC and have not been lumped in with RMT bans. There was undoubtedly one unfortunate incident you were involved in that was suspicious for one reason or another. Frequent trading or even transferring items does not automatically flag you as an RMTer. Of course the transfers could be dangerous I suppose if they were high value items, but who asks random strangers to help them transer a fungi or 100kpp?

So is it basically safe to transfer items/plat for random people who ask as long as the total value is not too high? Sometimes posts on here make me scared to do transfers for people, but at the same time I like to be able to help. After this last RMT ban wave, I pretended to be afk when someone asked me and I felt bad.

[quido]

I definitely won't be doing transfers for anyone but my closest friends at this point.

[Tasslehofp99]

I definitely won't be doing transfers for anyone but my closest friends at this point.

this^^


I've done transfers for tons of people through the years but these days its becoming increasingly obvious how bad an idea that may be.

[Thulack]

this^^


I've done transfers for tons of people through the years but these days its becoming increasingly obvious how bad an idea that may be.

If you didnt do anything wrong and you have logs on then there is no worries except for maybe some days off while everything gets settled and figured out.

[kaev]

I can only imagine your frustration, but that is just simply not true. I've spent most of my total P99 playtime in EC and have not been lumped in with RMT bans. There was undoubtedly one unfortunate incident you were involved in that was suspicious for one reason or another. Frequent trading or even transferring items does not automatically flag you as an RMTer. Of course the transfers could be dangerous I suppose if they were high value items, but who asks random strangers to help them transer a fungi or 100kpp?

I've transferred expensive shit for random strangers including a fungi tunic and 10s of thousands of pp, presumably these people saw the BDA guildtag on my mule and figured they were safe, without ever getting caught up in an RMT ban wave. Just lucky not to have been used by any RMTers I guess. Staff does seem to be very quick to clear accounts with only a single suspect transaction when the player is polite and can provide the info necessary to clear them (i.e. name of char who received the MQ and logs of the conversations and MQ with timestamps.) Always have your log running and don't be an ass to the staff seem to be the keys.

[Rararboker]

Yeah I just did a big red-blue plat transfer for myself and randomly xfered a AON for some random paladin in EC on blue. Not banned. Sounds like the staff got it handled.

[Pringles]

since you wanna make it public, your account was banned by Rogean for RMT. you probably didnt think we log the method you used. or maybe you thought deleting the character would help cover your tracks. i dunno.

now stop spamming our forums with your crap, and wait for Rogean to respond to your petition thread. but having just reviewed the logs surrounding your account ban, i wouldnt get your hopes up.

Served.

[Nocsucow]

Still waiting on my petition to be resolved. It's been viewed 12 times, no replies from any GMs... very irritating, I've done nothing wrong. What's the hold up on a response? Even just a quick "we're investigating" would be nice, then I'd at least know that SOMETHING is happening...

Do your job GMs!! You started this project, people donate funds to keep it rocking, and you did the massive ban wave... it's now time to exercise adequate customer service skills for your customers. You need to set more realistic expectations for people who join p1999 - have extra accounts or trade too often and you will most likely be scooped into a ban wave. Then you will wait weeks before you find out if your request is even being processed.

/endrant

probably best legit upset rant I've read this year...

[Feanol]

If I hear another goddamn entitled nerd demand better "service" from a totally free-to-play server and it's operators... I just don't know what I'll do.

P99 Devs and Guides do this out of pocket and with their free time. These people are under no obligation to even continue hosting the project, much less "respond in a timely manner" to petitions. I'm assuming the majority of us aren't raging 13-year-olds playing Minecraft but adults capable of a little more critical thought and empathy.

If you donated it doesn't give you a soapbox to demand anything. The donation is more a gift to your fellow players than anything else to support the world you share.

If you were banned and don't know why, maybe stop trading with strangers and use your nose a bit when doing guildie transfers. If you were banned and you know why, make a new new account and keep your fan fiction to yourself.

[HalflingWarrior]

The suppliers have enough time to dedicate to this and other games required to build up the pixel wealth. The only way you build pixel wealth with the intent to sell for rl money is time invested. The sellers will have multiple accounts with pixel hoards. They will always be around as long as there is a demand. Ban the account. Doesn't matter. It will only be a matter of weeks/months before they have enough stockpiled to sell again.
If there was no demand for bought and sold pixels, there would be no one interested in stockpiling with the intent to sell. You punish everyone involved, including the sellers. That doesn't mean that RMT goes away. That is in the hands of the community.
In other words, RMT, and the bans that result from it, will always be with us.

Here's the problem dude:

The way the most valuable mobs (and therefore, drops) on the server are totally locked down there's only a set group of people (or guilds) that could possibly have the volume of items and platinum required to sustain such "vast demand."

Surely then, by your logic, the demand must far outweigh the supply. Therefore one can assume that the SUPPLIERS are in far fewer numbers than the BUYERS, which in turn leads us to the final question:

If the staff can "track down and identify 440 accounts involved with RMT" would it not be fair to assume that they should be able to track down these suppliers who are far fewer in number?

Browsing some of the RMT sites for fun after this banwave revealed one thing that was very obvious: Just 24 hours after the banwave hit, operations were restored to normal. This means that CLEARLY the supply chain was not hit in any way but instead the buyers received the most punishment; going so far as to BAN accounts that simply traded with and/or received platinum and/or items from RMTers in what SEEMED to be legitimate ingame trades.

TLDR: It just doesn't add up. If you can "track 440 accounts involved in RMT" then why can you not track the far fewer number of accounts that are SUPPLYING these RMTers? There can't be that many accounts / players that have 10s of millions of platinum and items banked who can just endlessly supply these large RMT websites with stock -- unless there's some kind of item/plat duping that's going on which is always a possibility as well!

[HalflingWarrior]

I tell ya, Velious is just gonna be a JOY isn't it? Velious may have very few end-game droppables, but almost every quest in the expansion is MQable.

That Eyepatch of Plunder? Unlikely. That Bracer of Benevolence? HAH!

Every single armor-quest-camp being permacamped by RMT suppliers - even the Kael camps for Thurgadin armor will be permacamped, as they're incredibly easy to MQ.

Good luck seeing the Sleeper's Tomb in the first 3 years after Velious releases, as the key quest is also MQable. The extremely high-end quest items from Dozekar in TOV, all MQable.

etc etc etc

[orsk]

I tell ya, Velious is just gonna be a JOY isn't it? Velious may have very few end-game droppables, but almost every quest in the expansion is MQable.

That Eyepatch of Plunder? Unlikely. That Bracer of Benevolence? HAH!

Every single armor-quest-camp being permacamped by RMT suppliers - even the Kael camps for Thurgadin armor will be permacamped, as they're incredibly easy to MQ.

Good luck seeing the Sleeper's Tomb in the first 3 years after Velious releases, as the key quest is also MQable. The extremely high-end quest items from Dozekar in TOV, all MQable.

etc etc etc


You may just be banned for even trading at normal rates and prices actually. Still waiting to have my account issue resolved. I got banned for xfering blue plat to red.

[girth]

I got banned for transferring some stuff for a buddy from one of his accounts to another, and now I can't play this weekend. I love this shoot first, ask questions later crap.

[valarmorghulis]

I got banned for transferring some stuff for a buddy from one of his accounts to another, and now I can't play this weekend. I love this shoot first, ask questions later crap.

This is what happens when you play on a server run by a bunch of scum bag hypocrite wanna-be Nazi's.

TLDR: It just doesn't add up. If you can "track 440 accounts involved in RMT" then why can you not track the far fewer number of accounts that are SUPPLYING these RMTers? There can't be that many accounts / players that have 10s of millions of platinum and items banked who can just endlessly supply these large RMT websites with stock -- unless there's some kind of item/plat duping that's going on which is always a possibility as well!

That or DERP, the people running the server are the ones behind the RMT and are only banning people to make it look like they are keeping the server clean and that they are against RMT. I don't think people realize how many TENS OF THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS are being made off of RMT. To think that Rogean and/or GM's running this server are not taking advantage of that large an amount of money is mind blowingly retarded. You have to have rocks for brains to not be able to realize that the people running this server are responsible for the majority of the RMT going on in it.

[Stormfists]

they should be able to track down these suppliers who are far fewer in number!

They can and yet don't ... Aka: 9/11 false flag illuminati tupac Kennedy moon landing.

Beam me up!

[Barnes]

That or DERP, the people running the server are the ones behind the RMT and are only banning people to make it look like they are keeping the server clean and that they are against RMT. I don't think people realize how many TENS OF THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS are being made off of RMT. To think that Rogean and/or GM's running this server are not taking advantage of that large an amount of money is mind blowingly retarded. You have to have rocks for brains to not be able to realize that the people running this server are responsible for the majority of the RMT going on in it.



This man might be right, but i doubt Rogean is in on it, it might be others involved. But there is ZERO evidence for it so it is just a conspiracy theory at this point.

[Sirken]

This is what happens when you play on a server run by a bunch of scum bag hypocrite wanna-be Nazi's.



That or DERP, the people running the server are the ones behind the RMT and are only banning people to make it look like they are keeping the server clean and that they are against RMT. I don't think people realize how many TENS OF THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS are being made off of RMT. To think that Rogean and/or GM's running this server are not taking advantage of that large an amount of money is mind blowingly retarded. You have to have rocks for brains to not be able to realize that the people running this server are responsible for the majority of the RMT going on in it.

yep. and you can see proof of this by how we constantly tell people NOT to RMT on this server. how we warn people everywhere that they will be banned if they RMT on this server. and how we make public announcements reminding people that we just banned another 400+ accounts for RMT. the reason we get so mad about RMT is because (spoiler alert incoming) we don't make money off it.

the real problem here is that you are too big of a scumbag to be in "Rogean and/or GM's" shoes, and not sellout your integrity, and so you can not possibly conceive the notion that others wouldn't do the same thing as you would do in that position. and thats fine if you wanna be a piece of shit, thats your choice in life. however it just so happens that "Rogean and/or GM's", choose not to be.

but thanks for playing

<3
Sirks

[Nocsucow]

yep. and you can see proof of this by how we constantly tell people NOT to RMT on this server. how we warn people everywhere that they will be banned if they RMT on this server. and how we make public announcements reminding people that we just banned another 400+ accounts for RMT. the reason we get so mad about RMT is because (spoiler alert incoming) we don't make money off it.

the real problem here is that you are too big of a scumbag to be in "Rogean and/or GM's" shoes, and not sellout your integrity, and so you can not possibly conceive the notion that others wouldn't do the same thing as you would do in that position. and thats fine if you wanna be a piece of shit, thats your choice in life. however it just so happens that "Rogean and/or GM's", choose not to be.

but thanks for playing

<3
Sirks

sirken dont even waste your time responding to idiots like this...hes mad.... he will calm down in a month or so..

[Swish]

Waiting for your account to be reviewed? Make another account and play an alt. Get some buddies to lend you some items/plat for your alt and just wait patiently.

What's hard about that?

[Rogean]

Still waiting on my petition to be resolved. It's been viewed 12 times, no replies from any GMs... very irritating, I've done nothing wrong. What's the hold up on a response? Even just a quick "we're investigating" would be nice, then I'd at least know that SOMETHING is happening...

Do your job GMs!! You started this project, people donate funds to keep it rocking, and you did the massive ban wave... it's now time to exercise adequate customer service skills for your customers. You need to set more realistic expectations for people who join p1999 - have extra accounts or trade too often and you will most likely be scooped into a ban wave. Then you will wait weeks before you find out if your request is even being processed.

/endrant

Whoa. You aren't a customer. Your donations go to the upkeep of the server. You're donating for you and your fellow players to continue to have a server. It does not cover our services whatsoever.

[Tameth]

Whoa. You aren't a customer. Your donations go to the upkeep of the server. You're donating for you and your fellow players to continue to have a server. It does not cover our services whatsoever.

Pras Rogean!

[Mentathiel]

The more they rant and rail against the 'unfair management' here, the more convinced I become that they are guilty. People who are missing a weekend might be grumpy, but this level of angst would be far more fitting for someone who, for example, just watched $100 of digital goods get confiscated.

Also, I think any moron can work out the four basic staff responses:

To the polite guilty person -> Sorry, we caught you fair and square. It was a good try, but not good enough.
To the angry guilty person -> Your tears taste like victory...
To the polite innocent person -> Oh yes, you're right; here's your account back.
To the angry innocent person -> P1999 owes you nothing; get over yourself and we might investigate...

[Budder]

So I'm very new, lvl 14 Druid, been playing for about 2 months off and on. I've heard a lot about this RMT thing. What's going on or what happened? Should I be afraid of taking free money and gifts as I might be tied into this somehow?
Thanks!

[ylarik24]

yes very much be afraid any gifts are possible ban for you.

[Stormfists]

So I'm very new, lvl 14 Druid, been playing for about 2 months off and on. I've heard a lot about this RMT thing. What's going on or what happened? Should I be afraid of taking free money and gifts as I might be tied into this somehow?
Thanks!


Random Mob Tracking.

As a druid, if you use track - expect to be banned.

[Sirken]

The more they rant and rail against the 'unfair management' here, the more convinced I become that they are guilty. People who are missing a weekend might be grumpy, but this level of angst would be far more fitting for someone who, for example, just watched $100 of digital goods get confiscated.

Also, I think any moron can work out the four basic staff responses:

To the polite guilty person -> Sorry, we caught you fair and square. It was a good try, but not good enough.
To the angry guilty person -> Your tears taste like victory...
To the polite innocent person -> Oh yes, you're right; here's your account back.
To the angry innocent person -> P1999 owes you nothing; get over yourself and we might investigate...


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[myalcador]

Whoa. You aren't a customer. Your donations go to the upkeep of the server. You're donating for you and your fellow players to continue to have a server. It does not cover our services whatsoever.

Well, I disagree. And I hope that my opinion does not entice a further ban, as insinuated by several forum posters...

Like I explained in my petition, I've been around in some form or another for a pretty long time, and I have donated... those dollars go to wherever you deem they go to - server maintenance, new content, etc. Those funds can therefore be viewed as your compensation for your time, paid as appreciation for your efforts. There simply becomes a point of diminishing returns from my perspective, and when I am roped up into something like this ban wave, it disappoints me, and affects me negatively. I then deserve to rant, call me entitled if you please. Customer service is customer service, regardless of the industry. And this, folks, is a business. Period. Tanglible or otherwise. Inherently, there is a need for customer service to some extent.

Ive read these forums for the longest time, and I've seen all of the drama/hate between the factions, accusation, the tinfoil hatting, other conspiracies - I don't get involved. Ever. Here I am reading the responses to my post, just like wow.

Sirken, I don't see what looks bad, I didn't delete any character off of the account I am petitioning, and used no method whatsoever.

Also, thanks for the response, least I know my situation is being reviewed, which is all I was asking from day one... before I felt the need to post on the public forum.

[picaro11]

Nothing more fail to the realist degree than a bunch of moral high-grounders. Its delusional to think that banning people who actually have money to throw away costs you no opportunity. Your kids gotta eat sometime. Or better yet...they could've eaten better. This assumes some dumbass out there thought you were worthy to survive in the first place.

Didn't really set the world on fire did ya.

So please, spare us the bullshit. Just ban and do yourself a potential favor and shut up. Cause if Blizzard wanted to cut a check for this entire project and flip it upside down...trust me...for the right price...you'd do it. Bank always wins. Welcome to the world. Virtual trooper.

So, once you put your petty idealism aside, you'll realize it isn't the people willing to throw their money away that's nowhere near as stupid as you are for turning it away. Dumbass.

[picaro11]

Well, I disagree. And I hope that my opinion does not entice a further ban, as insinuated by several forum posters...


The guys ban almost 50% of their entire users who are online at any given time because..."of the rules"?

Fuckin guys are nuts. And if "ill just take my money elsewhere" doesnt mean anything to these guys, then let it be so. There is a reason why the invisible hand has only drawn me over to the Blizzard camp. Who posted record profits this last quarter. And who..by the way...is benefitting from the greatest fuckin monetary easing boost this country has every seen in history.

How's that "missed opportunities" convo goin over on your end there P1999 staff?

https://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=NASDAQ:ATVI

Just sayin....

[Nocsucow]

The guys ban almost 50% of their entire users who are online at any given time because..."of the rules"?

Fuckin guys are nuts. And if "ill just take my money elsewhere" doesnt mean anything to these guys, then let it be so.

its funny you say that ... after all them bans the server was at a all time high since kunark

[picaro11]

its funny you say that ... after all them bans the server was at a all time high since kunark

Show me a regression model where the R-squared of that single variable explains the user number you speak of and I might believe you.

Listen. I came back from Costa Rica 2 weeks ago and met an entire group of Blizzard game producers who were staying at one of the best suites out there and partying hard. One of them got married on the beach. I highly doubt that kind of money is sloshin around at P1999. And much less anyone a wife of a P1999 staff being courted to such a wedding. But boy i bet she wished she did. :)

Another funky fact. Its not even THEIR IDEA. These guys just Emulated this and they can actually mint some money and they aren't. W/e. Just bought another lvl 90 char boost from Blizz for 60 bucks (my 3rd one). Meh.

It doesn't surprise me. Amongst the most resource destitute you'll always find those who try to compensate with the belief in some "morality" conjured out of thin fuckin air. Its a recurring pattern that echos all throughout history. This crowd and these behavioral underpinnings is no different.

[Sirken]

Sirken, I don't see what looks bad, I didn't delete any character off of the account I am petitioning, and used no method whatsoever.

hi there, if you had actually read my post, youd notice, i did not quote you, and was not speaking to you.

thanks for playing

<3
Sirken

[Sirken]

Picaro - are you seriously comparing a paid Blizzard staff to a bunch of nerds volunteering their time for free to a hobby?

you are comparing apples and giant f'ing cinder blocks here pal

[picaro11]

Picaro - are you seriously comparing a paid Blizzard staff to a bunch of nerds volunteering their time for free to a hobby?

you are comparing apples and giant f'ing cinder blocks here pal


Look. Your reality is your perception. You wanna focus on something specific for your own reasons thats your ordeal. You're the cinder block i guess?

All I am saying is there's alot of opportunity to be had. Why can't you guys seem to respond in kind with the right answer for once instead of building all this emotion behind a wrong one? I mean, you're basically saying...
o.k we banned you for breaking a black/white rule" after all this resource spent researching maybe. Only to turn around and spend more resources and say "well..we'll spend an ADDITIONAL amount of resources to judge as to whether your account should be reinstated" and not show a godamn thing for it? Its beyond any "survival" and rational understanding to me.

And yes. Blizz is paid and you are not. Just because you aren't monetizing....I suppose all is lost and you shouldnt think of a creative solution to monetize? i dont get your point. And while the rest of the world is concerned about spurring demand for all this supply...you my friend are taking the world for granted amid all this demand and you just choose not to supply it.

And stop acting like guys like me are the godamned enemy FFS

[Aadill]

"Guys like me"

Who are you, fucking Kanye West?

[Sirken]

Look. Your reality is your perception. You wanna focus on something specific for your own reasons thats your ordeal. You're the cinder block i guess?

All I am saying is there's alot of opportunity to be had. Why can't you guys seem to respond in kind with the right answer for once instead of building all this emotion behind a wrong one? I mean, you're basically saying...
o.k we banned you for breaking a black/white rule" after all this resource spent researching maybe. Only to turn around and spend more resources and say "well..we'll spend an ADDITIONAL amount of resources to judge as to whether your account should be reinstated" and not show a godamn thing for it? Its beyond any "survival" and rational understanding to me.

And yes. Blizz is paid and you are not. Just because you aren't monetizing....I suppose all is lost and you shouldnt think of a creative solution to monetize? i dont get your point. And while the rest of the world is concerned about spurring demand for all this supply...you my friend are taking the world for granted amid all this demand and you just choose not to supply it.

And stop acting like guys like me are the godamned enemy FFS

apple or cinderblock, doesnt matter to me honestly.

rules exist for a reason, and players simply dont get to decide which ones they are going to follow. if we say do not rmt, then that means we are ready to dump our time and efforts into punishing the people involved it in. but for the same reason black markets exist irl, if theres a demand, people will fill that demand (legal or not). no law enforcement force on the planet stops 100% of all crime, and no game company stops 100% of the rule breaking. but i think we do a very good job. for safety purposes, we ban all the accounts that could even possibly be guilty, to ensure we shut down all the accounts involved. sometimes this means innocent players get caught up in the mix. that is the only reason an account would be reinstated.

we have no intent or desire to monetize project1999. we are proud that we offer the best EQ Classic experience to everybody on the internet for free. because we love this game. there are TONS of Pay2Win games, or cashshop games, or games that allow RMT. hell there are even eqemu servers that allow it. and you are free to play on any of them. but we will not allow it here.

[picaro11]

apple or cinderblock, doesnt matter to me honestly...

O.k soldier.

"We are all either kings or pawns of men" - Napoleon Bonaparte

[picaro11]

"Guys like me"

Who are you, fucking Kanye West?

Is that your best guess? Jesus you watch too much fucking TV.

[Ambrotos]

Sirken, I don't see what looks bad, I didn't delete any character off of the account I am petitioning, and used no method whatsoever.


Logs don't lie about deleted toons. It's a nice red flag. Not saying yours was, but from Sirkens post it sounds like it.

[Ele]

pica so salty lol

[Rararboker]

Must have lost a good bit of money to be that mad. This entertains me greatly.

[picaro11]

Must have lost a good bit of money to be that mad. This entertains me greatly.

The view is always that good from the kiddies table. Taking risk is never a child's forte

[Uuruk]

You've been rmting for years, just stop it you got caught.

For the people who don't know who this guy is his name is Rettiwalk, he was originally banned for stripping and deleting peoples accounts. He also rmted with Mellowyellow and his excuse for his paypals records were "I paid him to do my homework for me" LOL

Here is a golden example of this server. You can RMT and get banned multiple times and still exist on this server. It literally doesn't fucking matter.

[Argh]

The view is always that good from the kiddies table. Taking risk is never a child's forte

I like how, in this scenario, the people watching you throw a tantrum over losing the pixels on an elf sim that you paid real money for are the children.

[Mentathiel]

I still cannot get my head around RMTers. You have a game which can offer weeks or months of adventure before you reach max level, so you pay someone to let you skip to the end. It's not like any rational human being would see a whole book for £5 and decide they'd rather pay £25 for just the last chapter and a precis, so why do that in a game?

Maybe I'm just a crazy ESAK here, but isn't the value in the journey rather than the destination?

[Stormfists]

Tbh anyone who played live during Classic were RMT'ing sub fees for pixels.

If anything no RMT is not classic :)

/world emplodes.

[Master Roshi]

Tbh anyone who played live during Classic were RMT'ing sub fees for pixels.

If anything no RMT is not classic :)

/world emplodes.

Mind blown! :eek:

[Rogean]

If anything no RMT is not classic :)

Look at this from our perspective. Nilbog and I have spent a tremendous amount of our free time over the last 5 years to build and provide this server (With the help of many other developers and CSR's) without any monetary gain ourselves. It can't be said enough that donations go to the upkeep of the servers and nothing else. This isn't something like twitch where your "donations" are literally going into the pocket of the streamer.

So to see people to making thousands of dollars selling off virtual items in a game we work hard to provide for nothing is one of the biggest disrespectful insults I've ever seen.

This isn't directed entirely at Stormfist's comment but just my thoughts in general about why we take the stance we do against RMT.

[quido]

I would totally donate more if I thought the cash was going towards hookers and blow.

[picaro11]

Look at this from our perspective. Nilbog and I have spent a tremendous amount of our free time over the last 5 years to build and provide this server (With the help of many other developers and CSR's) without any monetary gain ourselves. It can't be said enough that donations go to the upkeep of the servers and nothing else. This isn't something like twitch where your "donations" are literally going into the pocket of the streamer.

So to see people to making thousands of dollars selling off virtual items in a game we work hard to provide for nothing is one of the biggest disrespectful insults I've ever seen.

This isn't directed entirely at Stormfist's comment but just my thoughts in general about why we take the stance we do against RMT.

The free-market has a way of calling out this bluff.

The fact that RMTers will not stop is a signal that you should be co-opting it. There have been many who have spent exhaustive resources trying to fight the collective will of a group of people.

And while its noble, this 5 years you spent that you want absolutely no money for, will eventually turn into 10, 20 until you cant anymore. Thats when the loss actually hurts. And while you value your time so little, why the hell should anyone else value it otherwise. Think about it.

Sorry your'e offended. But i wouldn't suspect it to stop anytime soon. So carry that cross jesus! xD

[Rogean]

The free-market has a way of calling out this bluff.

The fact that RMTers will not stop is a signal that you should be co-opting it.

What would you suggest? A subscription fee? Project 1999 Marketplace where people can legitimately RMT? No matter what it is, it all comes back to one huge obstacle: Legality. Especially with new owners of Everquest.

[Stormfists]

My comment was in jest ;)

I'm an RMT scumbag and deserve to be banned. Step on my balls, tell me how dirty I am.

Basically:is this your server? If you answer no, respect the rules.

Someone do me an info gram!

[Aadill]

The real reason Rogean doesn't want RMT is because he doesn't want people to spend their unemployment checks on pixels. It's not a wise investment for the government to give you money so you can purchase a level 52 epic druid.

Some would call him a visionary and noble and others would say "Don't Tread on Me."

[picaro11]

What would you suggest? A subscription fee? Project 1999 Marketplace where people can legitimately RMT? No matter what it is, it all comes back to one huge obstacle: Legality. Especially with new owners of Everquest.

How is Lillu unimpeachable?

http://www.thehiddenforest.org/forum/viewforum.php?f=14

Obviously the "true to form" model here is mainly what you want since it is very popular. But one thing I will definitely suggest is addressing the "time" factor that most RMTers seem to be concerned with would definitely be a start in the right direction.

Lets face it, we played EQ when we were a little younger and probably had less bills than we have today. Why not deliver a product that will help fill that sunk time gap?

Just saying. There's money to be had. Creativity is just standing in the way to please a broader audience. And what better reason to do it for other than more resources?

[picaro11]

I like how, in this scenario, the people watching you throw a tantrum over losing the pixels on an elf sim that you paid real money for are the children.

There's an old saying "if everyone is thinking the same thing then no one is thinking.."

You should probably stop using this old line. Wise up and realize that whether its pixels, a picasso, or fuckin printed-on green pieces of paper. Its the value ASSIGNED to the object.

[Glenzig]

How is Lillu unimpeachable?

http://www.thehiddenforest.org/forum/viewforum.php?f=14

Obviously the "true to form" model here is mainly what you want since it is very popular. But one thing I will definitely suggest is addressing the "time" factor that most RMTers seem to be concerned with would definitely be a start in the right direction.

Lets face it, we played EQ when we were a little younger and probably had less bills than we have today. Why not deliver a product that will help fill that sunk time gap?

Just saying. There's money to be had. Creativity is just standing in the way to please a broader audience. And what better reason to do it for other than more resources?

You have no idea what principles are do you? Its just about maximizing earnings potentials and expanding your market. What a hollow way to view the world. Pretty sad.

[Aadill]

Why not deliver a product that will help fill that sunk time gap?


http://i.imgur.com/3YUqOz3.png

[picaro11]

You have no idea what principles are do you? Its just about maximizing earnings potentials and expanding your market. What a hollow way to view the world. Pretty sad.

Please spare me the cognitive dissonance. Its reality. You think we think back to our childhood experiences so fondly just because!?!? Get a grip man.

And whether you may not "prey on others" as you so much detest, worry not. You are being preyed on regardless. Down to the very penny of income in a typical life-span. The percentages of discretionary income spent on porn down to the hours of sleep needed to making sure you wake up and repeat it all again. Its a fuckin science. The predator knows his prey.

[Aadill]

Its the value ASSIGNED to the object.

Just bought another lvl 90 char boost from Blizz for 60 bucks (my 3rd one).

$180 plus monthly subscription fees.

[picaro11]

$180 plus monthly subscription fees.

Yep. With a smile on my face. Could've gone into Rogeans and staffs pocket. Hell, could have even helped fund the time to get Velious kicked off.

[qinsteel]

After reading 340 posts, what is the fracking deal! If you dont like the rules leave and start your own server. Its that simple. If you think you will put in thousdands of hours into this game and I emphasize "game" only to be banned because of an innocent act. Leave now and start your own server or get a real life

For me, every hour of entertainment I get is like money in the bank. I dont spend that $20 going to see a worthless movie or blowing a $100 in the bar.

This is the best entertainment and it FREE! Thank you P99 staff and all those that make it possible.

[picaro11]

After reading 340 posts, what is the fracking deal! If you dont like the rules leave and start your own server. Its that simple. If you think you will put in thousdands of hours into this game and I emphasize "game" only to be banned because of an innocent act. Leave now and start your own server or get a real life

For me, every hour of entertainment I get is like money in the bank. I dont spend that $20 going to see a worthless movie or blowing a $100 in the bar.

This is the best entertainment and it FREE! Thank you P99 staff and all those that make it possible.

I bet you are thankful. Enjoy the free lunch. I actually had a recurring payment of $50 a month going to this project for several months. Thanks to Eunomia who...by the way gave me such great service and who suggested I give back. Only a matter of time Eunomia wises up to the potential gain from her skill and goes bye bye cause a free project hardly keeps such talent anyway.

But banned players are no good cash flow....

[qinsteel]

I bet you are thankful. Enjoy the free lunch. I actually had a recurring payment of $50 a month going to this project for several months to a Mr. Clifton Gibson. Thanks to Eunomia who...by the way gave me such great service and who suggested I give back. Only a matter of time Eunomia wises up to the potential gain from her skill and goes bye bye cause a free project hardly keeps such talent anyway.

But banned players are no good cash flow....

All I can say is thanks for your donations to keep the server going, but since you seem to be so upset. Take the $50 a month you are spending, start your own server and then do what ever you like. Is that so hard. I don't think anybody forced you to donate at the end of a weapon

[Glenzig]

Please spare me the cognitive dissonance. Its reality. You think we think back to our childhood experiences so fondly just because!?!? Get a grip man.

And whether you may not "prey on others" as you so much detest, worry not. You are being preyed on regardless. Down to the very penny of income in a typical life-span. The percentages of discretionary income spent on porn down to the hours of sleep needed to making sure you wake up and repeat it all again. Its a fuckin science. The predator knows his prey.

Pretty sure I'm not the one displaying cognitive dissonance here. You seem to be the one protesting over sour grapes. If it bothers you so much that a few people actually want to have a not for profit hobby, then take off. No one is forcing you to try to rationalize your poor decisions. Not sure why you keep on insisting that everyone in the world share your pathetic view of existence. Not everyone is about the money grab. Its very hard for someone like you to grasp, but there is typically more joy and satisfaction achieved by doing something free for other people then trying to formulate ways to profit off of every single action you take. No one here asked you for money. In fact they asked that you please do not spend money.

[picaro11]

All I can say is thanks for your donations to keep the server going, but since you seem to be so upset. Take the $50 a month you are spending, start your own server and then do what ever you like. Is that so hard. I don't think anybody forced you to donate at the end of a weapon

I don't think you are getting it Qinsteel. My money is already being allocated elsewhere. While I appreciate you are really trying to drive your point home, Its not really getting at anything.

I am just trying to bring up a point that I believe is in the mutual interests of both myself as a user and P1999's staff as service providers. Take a moment to let this setting sink in for you. My competitive advantage is not to host an emulator server. But Rogeans is. Why should I misallocate my competitive advantage when i can pay someone to do theirs? Just stop with the moot point already.

A forum is used for exactly these kinds of discussions and discovery. Just cause something is "a way its been" doesnt mean its the "way it has to stay". Especially if gain can be had here.

[Aadill]

I don't think you are getting it Qinsteel. My money is already being allocated elsewhere. While I appreciate you are really trying to drive your point home, Its not really getting at anything.

I am just trying to bring up a point that I believe is in the mutual interests of both myself as a user and P1999's staff as service providers.

A forum is used for exactly these kinds of discussions and discovery. Just cause something is "a way its been" doesnt mean its the "way it has to stay". Especially if gain can be had here.

But in the interest of keeping things fair for all users and in the interest of companies and players alike not breathing down your neck, what gain can be had?

Besides, I'm pretty sure Rogean loves delicious tears more than a few bucks in his pocket. He has stated his opinion and doesn't care about yours.

[picaro11]

Pretty sure I'm not the one displaying cognitive dissonance here. You seem to be the one protesting over sour grapes. If it bothers you so much that a few people actually want to have a not for profit hobby, then take off. No one is forcing you to try to rationalize your poor decisions. Not sure why you keep on insisting that everyone in the world share your pathetic view of existence. Not everyone is about the money grab. Its very hard for someone like you to grasp, but there is typically more joy and satisfaction achieved by doing something free for other people then trying to formulate ways to profit off of every single action you take. No one here asked you for money. In fact they asked that you please do not spend money.

A bit disingenuous to speak highly of doing something for free given you are clearly benefiting from someone else's charity in this case. Wake up will ya.

[picaro11]

But in the interest of keeping things fair for all users and in the interest of companies and players alike not breathing down your neck, what gain can be had?

Besides, I'm pretty sure Rogean loves delicious tears more than a few bucks in his pocket. He has stated his opinion and doesn't care about yours.

Im sure Rogean needs all the help he can get to speak for himself.

[Glenzig]

I don't think you are getting it Qinsteel. My money is already being allocated elsewhere. While I appreciate you are really trying to drive your point home, Its not really getting at anything.

I am just trying to bring up a point that I believe is in the mutual interests of both myself as a user and P1999's staff as service providers.

A forum is used for exactly these kinds of discussions and discovery. Just cause something is "a way its been" doesnt mean its the "way it has to stay". Especially if gain can be had here.

You are so way awesome and smart. I'm sure that the staff has never thought that there may be avenues to make profit from their project. You may be on to something here! Rogaen! Give this man a paid job. He's a genius!

[picaro11]

Im assuming this is a huge no-no.. i dunno who mentioned party is but i assume they are someone who did not want their name out in the open

An assumption.

[Glenzig]

A bit disingenuous to speak highly of doing something for free given you are clearly benefiting from someone else's charity in this case. Wake up will ya.

Oh. You can't read. I'm sorry, I didn't realize. Nevermind then. Carry on.

[whitebandit]

An assumption.

you mean me saying "im assuming" makes that an assumption? Damn you are smart.

[picaro11]

You are so way awesome and smart. I'm sure that the staff has never thought that there may be avenues to make profit from their project. You may be on to something here! Rogaen! Give this man a paid job. He's a genius!

I appreciate the sarcasm. I get it. But even if the staff has thought of this already..there is nothing wrong with the continuous urge to finding a solution that can work. At least there's value in that. But then again you may be suggesting people should give up.

[whitebandit]

I appreciate the sarcasm. I get it. But even if the staff has thought of this already..there is nothing wrong with the continuous urge to finding a solution that can work. At least there's value in that. But then again you may be suggesting people should give up.

you still dont understand do you? If they start accepting money for the fucking server, it gives SOE/DBC even more of a reason to shut the fucking thing down. Dont be a moron bro.

[picaro11]

you mean me saying "im assuming" makes that an assumption? Damn you are smart.

hey you said it. Its fair game. Lets get back on topic pls.Or dont if you dont want to i guess.

[picaro11]

you still dont understand do you? If they start accepting money for the fucking server, it gives SOE/DBC even more of a reason to shut the fucking thing down. Dont be a moron bro.

read my earlier post. How is Lillu unimpeachable? And stop trying to speak assertively to something you dont know much about. It makes you look foolish.

[qinsteel]

I don't think you are getting it Qinsteel. My money is already being allocated elsewhere. While I appreciate you are really trying to drive your point home, Its not really getting at anything.

I am just trying to bring up a point that I believe is in the mutual interests of both myself as a user and P1999's staff as service providers. Take a moment to let this setting sink in for you. My competitive advantage is not to host an emulator server. But Rogeans is. Why should I misallocate my competitive advantage when i can pay someone to do theirs? Just stop with the moot point already.

A forum is used for exactly these kinds of discussions and discovery. Just cause something is "a way its been" doesnt mean its the "way it has to stay". Especially if gain can be had here.

Picaro11 you may very well be right and I am not getting the point and I also agree a forum is the place to discuss new ideas and present different view points. However; this entire thread is about RMT. and the facts are:

1. Rogean is allowed to operate an Everquest emulation (IP owned by another entity) as long as no profit is made from said emulation. I also believe that includes profit from anyone involved in the emulation.

2. Rogean is required to enforce such rules

3. RMT sellers are making money on the P99 emulation

4. The entire server could be forced to shut down should the IP owners decide to bring legal action against Rogean

So what am I missing Picaro11 when my point is play by the rule or leave because IMO RMT are threating the P99 server and everyone who plays. So if a few people have to wait a month or more to play again while its sorted out. That is the reality that RMT people have forced on to everyone playing and that is where your anger should be directed and not the messanger.

[picaro11]

Picaro11 you may very well be right and I am not getting the point and I also agree a forum is the place to discuss new ideas and present different view points. However; this entire thread is about RMT. and the facts are:

1. Rogean is allowed to operate an Everquest emulation (IP owned by another entity) as long as no profit is made from said emulation. I also believe that includes profit from anyone involved in the emulation.

2. Rogean is required to enforce such rules

3. RMT sellers are making money on the P99 emulation

4. The entire server could be forced to shut down should the IP owners decide to bring legal action against Rogean

So what am I missing Picaro11 when my point is play by the rule or leave because IMO RMT are threating the P99 server and everyone who plays. So if a few people have to wait a month or more to play again while its sorted out. That is the reality that RMT people have forced on to everyone playing and that is where your anger should be directed and not the messanger.

Are you internal staff? I dont get why so many other Users attempt to pontificate on matters that hardly concern them. Why can't a person who doesn't obviously think like the majority of you guys ask some questions and have a discussion about other options with people who actually know for once?

[girth]

Qinsteel, that is a very selfish opinion. I was banned for doing nothing and got my account released after they made me feel like a villain for playing the game the way they fucking set it up to be played.

They are going nuts over this shit and IMO, going way overboard. I'm surprised the population has grown this much since I last played because the management seems to be a lot worse than when I left.

[girth]

Now nobody wants to help others transfer stuff, which is required in this game.

Nobody wants to meet new people and be able to trust them because they might get you banned.

There may be more bodies on here, but the spirit of the game sure has gone to shit.

[maskedmelon]

A bit disingenuous to speak highly of doing something for free given you are clearly benefiting from someone else's charity in this case. Wake up will ya.

Will you please just go away, limit your shitbaggery to real life and leave us to our peace? Here, you do not possess the predatory prowess you so covet. The project staff wield that power and like it or not you are the prey. You lost. And more demeaning, yet you were warned beforehand. You were bested and the one who bested you had no interest in doing so.

To the rest of your ramblings, I understand the distilled primal world view you embrace and the fact that in the absence of an greater power the only rational endeavor is self betterment. Unfortunately for you and perhaps contrary for the rest of us, we are social creatures and have to varying degrees evolved to derive satisfaction from that of others. Yes, I know scarcity demands that one person's gain is another's loss, but that assumes everything is valued the same to everyone else, which we know to be false.

[picaro11]

Will you please just go away, limit your shitbaggery to real life and leave us to our peace? Here, you do not possess the predatory prowess you so covet. The project staff wield that power and like it or not you are the prey. You lost. And more demeaning, yet you were warned beforehand. You were bested and the one who bested you had no interest in doing so.

To the rest of your ramblings, I understand the distilled primal world view you embrace and the fact that in the absence of an greater power the only rational endeavor is self betterment. Unfortunately for you and perhaps contrary for the rest of us, we are social creatures and have to varying degrees evolved to derive satisfaction from that of others. Yes, I know scarcity demands that one person's gain is another's loss, but that assumes everything is valued the same to everyone else, which we know to be false.

Thanks for your world view. Trust me, if it were in-fact a surprise to me that people like you felt this way, then I would also be surprised that there are "haves" and "have-nots". As for vividly describing my "defeat", Let me remind you that I am a grown man who takes risks and it would be entirely unrealistic for me to assume that every risk I ever took never ended up in a loss. So that I can handle.

So while you sit in your ivory moral tower and hemorrhage your life's resources till you die, you apparently aren't grown enough to understand the "Risk" experience as well as I do.


"I didn't say it would easy Neo, I just said it would be the truth...." - The Matrix

[Thulack]

Makes life easier: http://www.project1999.com/forums/profile.php?do=addlist&userlist=ignore&u=114518

[maskedmelon]

Oh! I was about to ask if there were a forum feature like that, but then thought it was a stupid question ^^ Apparently not. Thanks Thuls!

[Mentathiel]

So while you sit in your ivory moral tower and hemorrhage your life's resources till you die, you apparently aren't grown enough to understand the "Risk" experience as well as I do.
Yeah... Risk...

There's a huge difference between taking a risk on a legitimate business opportunity (will cheesy-peas be the next big thing?) which could end in bankruptcy and hoping you don't get caught breaking the rules again or else you'll lose access to a computer game account which you sunk cash into.

You sound so grown up, you really do...

[picaro11]

Yeah... Risk...

There's a huge difference between taking a risk on a legitimate business opportunity (will cheesy-peas be the next big thing?) which could end in bankruptcy and hoping you don't get caught breaking the rules again or else you'll lose access to a computer game account which you sunk cash into.

You sound so grown up, you really do...

So I suppose you too, consume definitions of "The way" as they are given to you? Whats the point here? I hope you got what you wanted. Risks here was taken for personal gain. Business or pleasure.

[Teneran]

First, i'd like to thank all the developers, GMs, guides, etc. who donate their time to the project. It's very much appreciated and something to be proud of.

If it's ok to ask, what is the actual hard cost to run/maintain the server, for bandwidth, etc.?

[Stormfists]

Pico...

Did Jesus charge his disciples a subscription fee?...

[picaro11]

Pico...

Did Jesus charge his disciples a subscription fee?...

I am not really sure. I guess you'd have to "believe" he didn't right?

[Lemiddar]

Are you internal staff? I dont get why so many other Users attempt to pontificate on matters that hardly concern them.

Now that's comedy.

[picaro11]

Now that's comedy.

Haha yeah. Kinda.

[maskedmelon]

Thanks for your world view. Trust me, if it were in-fact a surprise to me that people like you felt this way, then I would also be surprised that there are "haves" and "have-nots". As for vividly describing my "defeat", Let me remind you that I am a grown man who takes risks and it would be entirely unrealistic for me to assume that every risk I ever took never ended up in a loss. So that I can handle.

So while you sit in your ivory moral tower and hemorrhage your life's resources till you die, you apparently aren't grown enough to understand the "Risk" experience as well as I do.


"I didn't say it would easy Neo, I just said it would be the truth...." - The Matrix

Every decision is a result of a risk benefit analysis. Where risk or perceived loss outweighs potential benefit, a rational individual will decline to engage in the requisite activity. One who engages in comparably riskier behavior falls into one of three categories:

1) Irrational - Unreasoned embrace of risk
2) Ignorant - Incapable of accurate risk assessment
3) Apathetic - Places equally diminished value on all things

I will give you the benefit of the date and assume you belong to category three though I recognize flares of overconfidence alluding to infusions of categories 1 and 2.

Those who disagree with your view simply value the project as it is over potential revenues. You'd risk the loss, because you are deeply dissatisfied with everything. Your willing to trade the project (and anything else) for a widely accepted medium of exchange so that you can continue in search of something to fill that void of dissatisfaction. Maybe these latter assumptions are inaccurate and you dissatisfaction is limited to this project. If that is the case then I apologize, but your words are telling.

[picaro11]

Every decision is a result of a risk benefit analysis. Where risk or perceived loss outweighs potential benefit, a rational individual will decline to engage in the requisite activity. One who engages in comparably riskier behavior falls into one of three categories:

1) Irrational - Unreasoned embrace of risk
2) Ignorant - Incapable of accurate risk assessment
3) Apathetic - Places equally diminished value on all things

I will give you the benefit of the date and assume you belong to category three though I recognize flares of overconfidence alluding to infusions of categories 1 and 2.

Those who disagree with your view simply value the project as it is over potential revenues. You'd risk the loss, because you are deeply dissatisfied with everything. Your willing to trade the project (and anything else) for a widely accepted medium of exchange so that you can continue in search of something to fill that void of dissatisfaction. Maybe these latter assumptions are inaccurate and you dissatisfaction is limited to this project. If that is the case then I apologize, but your words are telling.


All im saying is build this thing to pay the people who built it a little more and now im the enemy.

Damn P1999 staff...you really got'em spoiled. It isn't surprising, its expected.

[mtkoan]

All this fight from people who SPENT NOT 5 years building this damned thing.

Damn Rogean...you really got'em spoiled.

Oh.. so you're just a troll after all. Disappointed.

[picaro11]

Oh.. so you're just a troll after all. Disappointed.

I see where your'e coming from. Ill adjust the comment above. Apologies.

[mtkoan]

Just to be clear, did you get banned or something, or you're just on a holy crusade to help P99 make money?

[picaro11]

Just to be clear, did you get banned or something, or you're just on a holy crusade to help P99 make money?

Both.

[Throndor]

Staff does seem to be very quick to clear accounts with only a single suspect transaction when the player is polite and can provide the info necessary to clear them (i.e. name of char who received the MQ and logs of the conversations and MQ with timestamps.) Always have your log running and don't be an ass to the staff seem to be the keys.

I.e. guilty until proven innocent? Since when does the burden of proof (that it didnt happen) lie in the hands of the accused. This seems a bit back-asswords as far as modus operandi go.

[Ele]

I.e. guilty until proven innocent? Since when does the burden of proof (that it didnt happen) lie in the hands of the accused. This seems a bit back-asswords as far as modus operandi go.

Let me check the constitution of Project1999.

I don't see a First, Fourth, Fifth, Sixth, or Fourteenth Amendment. I also don't think P99 signed on to the Universal Declaration of Human Rights, Article 11.

[Glenzig]

All im saying is build this thing to pay the people who built it a little more and now im the enemy.

Damn P1999 staff...you really got'em spoiled. It isn't surprising, its expected.

No. You're saying this because you got caught breaking one of the very few rules that will get you banned here. Now you think you can spin it by pretending to be industrious. They have been running the server(actually two servers, three if you count beta) for 5 years now. They made a decision at the outset that boxing ant RMT would not be allowed. You are not bringing anything to the table by trying to coerce them into running the project for profit. The fact that you are so pitifully unaware of the sheer futility of your argument is kind of funny though.

[Glenzig]

I.e. guilty until proven innocent? Since when does the burden of proof (that it didnt happen) lie in the hands of the accused. This seems a bit back-asswords as far as modus operandi go.

You think this is Judge Joe Brown son?

[fred schnarf]

Every decision is a result of a risk benefit analysis. Where risk or perceived loss outweighs potential benefit, a rational individual will decline to engage in the requisite activity. One who engages in comparably riskier behavior falls into one of three categories:

1) Irrational - Unreasoned embrace of risk
2) Ignorant - Incapable of accurate risk assessment
3) Apathetic - Places equally diminished value on all things

I will give you the benefit of the date and assume you belong to category three though I recognize flares of overconfidence alluding to infusions of categories 1 and 2.

Those who disagree with your view simply value the project as it is over potential revenues. You'd risk the loss, because you are deeply dissatisfied with everything. Your willing to trade the project (and anything else) for a widely accepted medium of exchange so that you can continue in search of something to fill that void of dissatisfaction. Maybe these latter assumptions are inaccurate and you dissatisfaction is limited to this project. If that is the case then I apologize, but your words are telling.

you arent insane at all , this is a totally normal post

[Ele]

School must be back in session. People spouting stuff they read about in econ and psychology 101.

lol

[Glenzig]

School must be back in session. People spouting stuff they read about in econ and psychology 101.

lol

Exactly.

[picaro11]

No. You're saying this because you got caught breaking one of the very few rules that will get you banned here. Now you think you can spin it by pretending to be industrious. They have been running the server(actually two servers, three if you count beta) for 5 years now. They made a decision at the outset that boxing ant RMT would not be allowed. You are not bringing anything to the table by trying to coerce them into running the project for profit. The fact that you are so pitifully unaware of the sheer futility of your argument is kind of funny though.

Well. Aren't you hardly a decision maker. And sorry to burst your bubble friend. The guys who run this show can do what they damn well please.

[Throndor]

You think this is Judge Joe Brown son?

Who said anything about a trial. It's just standard philosophical etiquette that the one making the claim is responsible for the burden of proof.

It seems a bit underhanded that in order to play on this server, one must keep extensive logs of what they are doing at all points in time, should they spontaneously be accused of something.

What did you have for lunch on October 23rd, 2012? Someone ate a baby on October 23rd, 2012. If u can't prove what you ate with logs (of feces) saved from October 23rd, 2012, you're guilty of eating babies.

[Glenzig]

Well. Aren't you hardly a decision maker. And sorry to burst your bubble friend. The guys who run this show can do what they damn well please.

I guess I was right earlier. You actually can't read. That's the whole point that has been made against you. They can do whatever they want, and they have already decided what that is as far as earning money goes. They have always had the option to risk trying to turn a profit off of this project. They have always decided against it. It is their choice. You aren't presenting them with some glorious tertiary option that has not been explored.

[Throndor]

Prove that god DOESN'T exist!

[maskedmelon]

you arent insane at all , this is a totally normal post

Join me outside the cave.... ;)

I like your sig ^^

[Glenzig]

Who said anything about a trial. It's just standard philosophical etiquette that the one making the claim is responsible for the burden of proof.

It seems a bit underhanded that in order to play on this server, one must keep extensive logs of what they are doing at all points in time, should they spontaneously be accused of something.

What did you have for lunch on October 23rd, 2012? Someone ate a baby on October 23rd, 2012. If u can't prove what you ate with logs (of feces) saved from October 23rd, 2012, you're guilty of eating babies.

Well. I guess in the online elf sim world where no one knows your true identity outside of an in game name and a forum handle, you'll have to live with being charged with eating babies. You have been found guilty of cyber crime! Your punishment is not actual. The inference has been reached. Your virtual identity will be besmirched! You have been found guilty enough for the internet! May bandwidth have mercy on your processor!

[mtkoan]

Prove that god DOESN'T exist!

Funny story, this large corporation I contracted for had a bunch of (really) old databases lying around on ancient mainframe servers (like COBOL old). They were taking up a lot of space, and cluttering up the place.

So I disabled them. The ones that were actually in use we heard about pretty quick, they got turned back on. The rest got deleted and subsequently thrown out. Sure I could have poured over the minutiae in every log file on so many servers (which would have meant writing COBOL :( ) over the course of weeks, and assumed those poor servers were innocent until proven guilty. But you gotta draw the line somewhere.

(In this analogy the servers are RMTers, Throndor is the annoying HR person, and I am god wielding the ban hammer of justice)

[Throndor]

Well. I guess in the online elf sim world where no one knows your true identity outside of an in game name and a forum handle, you'll have to live with being charged with eating babies. You have been found guilty of cyber crime! Your punishment is not actual. The inference has been reached. Your virtual identity will be besmirched! You have been found guilty enough for the internet! May bandwidth have mercy on your processor!

Yeah, well fortunately I don't stand accused, but your eagerness to slurp from the tip is astounding. I don't think ive ever seen such enthusiam. You make the women of Pornhub look lazy.

For the record, I'm not opposed to the banning of RMT accounts. I'm opposed to the suggestion that I should have to run logs, and then ressurect and reconstruct a timeline of events upon request in order to disprove baseless claims. If devs want to promote the sense of vigilance against RMT they purport, then diligence should go hand in hand with said vigilance, lest we recreate the salem witch hunts in Norrath. It's not the responsibility of those seeking a little requiem from the monotony of RL in the world of norrath, to undertake the burden of cataloging every single fukkin thing they do.

[maskedmelon]

Who said anything about a trial. It's just standard philosophical etiquette that the one making the claim is responsible for the burden of proof.

It seems a bit underhanded that in order to play on this server, one must keep extensive logs of what they are doing at all points in time, should they spontaneously be accused of something.

What did you have for lunch on October 23rd, 2012? Someone ate a baby on October 23rd, 2012. If u can't prove what you ate with logs (of feces) saved from October 23rd, 2012, you're guilty of eating babies.

Except you forgot to mention that one or more diapers with DNA matching that of one or more of the babies was found in your possession. Where were you that day? How did you come by that diaper?

[Glenzig]

Yeah, well fortunately I don't stand accused, but your eagerness to slurp from the tip is astounding. I don't think ive ever seen such enthusiam. You make the women of Pornhub look lazy.

My enthusiam is through the rewf.

[picaro11]

Alrighty then.

Well Gentlemen. Let me know when you want to make some money. Buy your wife a nice car, or put your kids in a better private school. Till then Blizz is where its at.

Ill check back to back to see if you'll change your mind. :)

[Ele]

Alrighty then.

Well Gentlemen. Let me know when you want to make some money. Buy your wife a nice car, or put your kids in a better private school. Till then Blizz is where its at.

Ill check back to back to see if you'll change your mind. :)

See ya later!

[nurabsal66]

Yeah, well fortunately I don't stand accused, but your eagerness to slurp from the tip is astounding. I don't think ive ever seen such enthusiam. You make the women of Pornhub look lazy.

For the record, I'm not opposed to the banning of RMT accounts. I'm opposed to the suggestion that I should have to run logs, and then ressurect and reconstruct a timeline of events upon request in order to disprove baseless claims. If devs want to promote the sense of vigilance against RMT they purport, then diligence should go hand in hand with said vigilance, lest we recreate the salem witch hunts in Norrath. It's not the responsibility of those seeking a little requiem from the monotony of RL in the world of norrath, to undertake the burden of cataloging every single fukkin thing they do.

Someone give this guy a medal. Bravo. I could not agree more.

[Glenzig]

Alrighty then.

Well Gentlemen. Let me know when you want to make some money. Buy your wife a nice car, or put your kids in a better private school. Till then Blizz is where its at.

Ill check back to back to see if you'll change your mind. :)

They don't have jobs. You're doing them a great service. Hope they can pull themselves out of the dregs and be a somebody like you some day. Stay strong.

[picaro11]

They don't have jobs. You're doing them a great service. Hope they can pull themselves out of the dregs and be a somebody like you some day. Stay strong.

Nice Goading. Pro. Talk is so cheap and it doesn't surprise me a broke zealot like yourself can do it so well. Enjoy the free emulator, "Planar Protector".

[Teneran]

Who said anything about a trial. It's just standard philosophical etiquette that the one making the claim is responsible for the burden of proof.

It seems a bit underhanded that in order to play on this server, one must keep extensive logs of what they are doing at all points in time, should they spontaneously be accused of something.

What did you have for lunch on October 23rd, 2012? Someone ate a baby on October 23rd, 2012. If u can't prove what you ate with logs (of feces) saved from October 23rd, 2012, you're guilty of eating babies.

The RMT ban isn't some criminal action brought against you by the Government where the rules of Common Law and Constitutional freedoms apply. Even civil law doesn't apply here because you're playing a free game online. You have the right to nothing. The developers can ban anyone they want at anytime for any reason; you have no legal rights, recourse or damages that you could ever claim in a court of law. They can shutdown the whole project in the next 5 minutes and you can do nothing about it.

Fortunately, if you are charged with baby killing, the burden of proof is on the authorities and you are innocent until proven guilty. Not in a free online high fantasy simulation game though.

Let me guess ... you and this other guy are Millenials, right?

[Glenzig]

Nice Goading. Pro. Talk is so cheap and it doesn't surprise me a broke zealot like yourself can do it so well. Enjoy the free emulator, "Planar Protector".

Dont stop there man. I'm not just poor, I'm fat and ugly and a virgin also. Proceed.

[Eunomia]

I bet you are thankful. Enjoy the free lunch. I actually had a recurring payment of $50 a month going to this project for several months. Thanks to Eunomia who...by the way gave me such great service and who suggested I give back. Only a matter of time Eunomia wises up to the potential gain from her skill and goes bye bye cause a free project hardly keeps such talent anyway.

But banned players are no good cash flow....

Hello,

I rarely post out of petition forum, but you caught my attention.

Firstly, thank you for the donations. They are greatly appreciated. As Rogean mentioned, all donations go towards server costs. When I started playing on the server, I imagined a couple of boxes is someone's basement. That's not the case. They sit in a controlled environment, data center. Rogean has shown pictures of our "rack". He would like to increase the protection of the servers, and that is very expensive.

The only one that needs to wise up to my value, is my boss at my real full time job. (I would never admit to him, but I am appreciated and compensated well)

I love this game. I love this server. I love the staff. I love all of you goofs. My love is eternal.

It's obvious I don't burn out, I've been playing the same game for 15 years.

I wouldn't turn down help! http://www.project1999.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=33

picaro11, I mean this with all sincerity. If you've lost your account, start over. It's the people that make the game fun, and we're all still here. I enjoy making new characters and making new friends as I level up. I wish the same for you.

[Thulack]

Eunomia is awesome

she's aight ;)

[Grimjaw]

Funny story, this large corporation I contracted for had a bunch of (really) old databases lying around on ancient mainframe servers (like COBOL old). They were taking up a lot of space, and cluttering up the place.

So I disabled them. The ones that were actually in use we heard about pretty quick, they got turned back on. The rest got deleted and subsequently thrown out. Sure I could have poured over the minutiae in every log file on so many servers (which would have meant writing COBOL :( ) over the course of weeks, and assumed those poor servers were innocent until proven guilty. But you gotta draw the line somewhere.

(In this analogy the servers are RMTers, Throndor is the annoying HR person, and I am god wielding the ban hammer of justice)

until someone goes to run that 4 year old financial report from the historical data....

[Errakus]

until someone goes to run that 4 year old financial report from the historical data....

Yea I work in IT and when I read that, I was shocked. I would be fired or given a written warning if I went ahead and did that without approvals. :eek:

[Rogean]

Eunomia is love, Eunomia is life.

[Pringles]

Eunomia is love, Eunomia is life.

[mtkoan]

Yea I work in IT and when I read that, I was shocked. I would be fired or given a written warning if I went ahead and did that without approvals. :eek:

Yea that's why us consultants get paid the big bucks, lol. Oh, wasn't my random idea, directive to "clean things up" came from a superior.

[Mentathiel]

To be fair, you can ask people 'what databases are you still using' and they will just give you blank looks most of the time or tell you not to touch anything. I bet most of the rank and file workers just said 'this database is not working' and went to grab a coffee while they waited for IT to fix it. Far from suspecting the truth, they probably just assumed the server-rack needed kicking or something needed to be rebooted.

When life gives you an extra coffee-break, it pays to stay incurious and just enjoy your good luck.

[myriverse]

Let me check the constitution of Project1999.

I don't see a First, Fourth, Fifth, Sixth, or Fourteenth Amendment. I also don't think P99 signed on to the Universal Declaration of Human Rights, Article 11.
Yeah. Pixels are not humans, folks. Pixels are the only things that get hurt in a banning.

If you got banned, just realize that you were likely the one who fucked up, either by malice or ignorance. Accept it. Move on. Recreate a character. Have fun. Otherwise, just go away and have fun.

[Glenzig]

Yeah. Pixels are not humans, folks. Pixels are the only things that get hurt in a banning.

If you got banned, just realize that you were likely the one who fucked up, either by malice or ignorance. Accept it. Move on. Recreate a character. Have fun. Otherwise, just go away and have fun.

No way man! I have E-rights! Our digital forefathers would be ashamed.

[stifling]

How is Lillu unimpeachable?

http://www.thehiddenforest.org/forum/viewforum.php?f=14

Obviously the "true to form" model here is mainly what you want since it is very popular. But one thing I will definitely suggest is addressing the "time" factor that most RMTers seem to be concerned with would definitely be a start in the right direction.

Lets face it, we played EQ when we were a little younger and probably had less bills than we have today. Why not deliver a product that will help fill that sunk time gap?

Just saying. There's money to be had. Creativity is just standing in the way to please a broader audience. And what better reason to do it for other than more resources?


To those who are on this side of the fence, I would rather pay money to keep RMT out... O wait, that is what donating to the server is for.

So if you are like me and enjoy this game for what it is, a damn fine example of pre-kiddy gaming that takes itself seriously enough to be enjoyable for those of us who cannot find a half-decent game in this world of shit title after shit title released from multinational corporations with no soul... Then you should donate too

[Jereel]

To those who are on this side of the fence, I would rather pay money to keep RMT out... O wait, that is what donating to the server is for.

So if you are like me and enjoy this game for what it is, a damn fine example of pre-kiddy gaming that takes itself seriously enough to be enjoyable for those of us who cannot find a half-decent game in this world of shit title after shit title released from multinational corporations with no soul... Then you should donate too

And then you should pledge to the Crowfall kickstarter...

[Pkewanay]

Good lord, lock this please, I don't think anything new is actually being said anymore.

[Master Roshi]

this is a fascinating thread for sure, I'm very shocked Rogean felt it worthy to give as much feedback as he did and I'm very appreciative for it.

[Wookiewoowoo]

Firstly, thank you for the donations. They are greatly appreciated. As Rogean mentioned, all donations go towards server costs. When I started playing on the server, I imagined a couple of boxes is someone's basement. That's not the case. They sit in a controlled environment, data center. Rogean has shown pictures of our "rack". He would like to increase the protection of the servers, and that is very expensive.


A entire rack for this little project, are we using equipment from 1999?
I couldn't see more then 5U's of spaced used, yet alone a entire rack.

[Doil_Boil]

Is this the thread where we talk about how awesome Eunomia is?

Real awesome!

[Glenzig]

A entire rack for this little project, are we using equipment from 1999?
I couldn't see more then 5U's of spaced used, yet alone a entire rack.

You'll notice that the word rack is in quotation marks. These things right here "".

[Grimjaw]

luckily he didn't say "server room" or it woulda blew this kids mind

[Wookiewoowoo]

You'll notice that the word rack is in quotation marks. These things right here "".

person said "our "rack"". If you say you have a "rack" that would mean you have a rack.
Renting a entire rack is ALOT different then renting a few U's of rackspace.
In a datacenter with premium bandwidth I could get 2U's for $50 a month, I probably couldn't get a entire rack for less then $1400.

Yes my mind would of blew if you said server room, Considering the smallest server room I'v encountered has over 75 racks and we call that server room "the closet" cause it is so small compared to the others.

[Wookiewoowoo]

I also only originally posted cause It sounded like a embellished truth or lie.
My BS meter went to 100%. My BS meter may be wrong but it would be irresponsible to not say anything. If a member of staff thinks they have something when it may not be the case, they should know. Rogean could be using donations to pay for rack fee's while 90% of the rack is filled with BTC miner equipment mining him some BTC.
Possibile? Yes. Probable? Probably not. But if nobody ever speaks up nobody will ever know

[Teneran]

person said "our "rack"". If you say you have a "rack" that would mean you have a rack.
Renting a entire rack is ALOT different then renting a few U's of rackspace.
In a datacenter with premium bandwidth I could get 2U's for $50 a month, I probably couldn't get a entire rack for less then $1400.

Yes my mind would of blew if you said server room, Considering the smallest server room I'v encountered has over 75 racks and we call that server room "the closet" cause it is so small compared to the others.

You've never worked for a small engineering company. We have a server at work, it's on a single rack and it's in a 5' x 8' room or something like that. it's called the server room. Oh nos!

[Wookiewoowoo]

You've never worked for a small engineering company. We have a server at work, it's on a single rack and it's in a 5' x 8' room or something like that. it's called the server room. Oh nos!

the staff member said "datacenter"

[Glenzig]

person said "our "rack"". If you say you have a "rack" that would mean you have a rack.
Renting a entire rack is ALOT different then renting a few U's of rackspace.
In a datacenter with premium bandwidth I could get 2U's for $50 a month, I probably couldn't get a entire rack for less then $1400.

Yes my mind would of blew if you said server room, Considering the smallest server room I'v encountered has over 75 racks and we call that server room "the closet" cause it is so small compared to the others.

So what you're saying is that you have seen people literally keep server racks in a closet?

[Glenzig]

I also only originally posted cause It sounded like a embellished truth or lie.
My BS meter went to 100%. My BS meter may be wrong but it would be irresponsible to not say anything. If a member of staff thinks they have something when it may not be the case, they should know. Rogean could be using donations to pay for rack fee's while 90% of the rack is filled with BTC miner equipment mining him some BTC.
Possibile? Yes. Probable? Probably not. But if nobody ever speaks up nobody will ever know

Why would I need to know any of that? Does the free game I play work consistently? Yes? K thnx.

[Wookiewoowoo]

So what you're saying is that you have seen people literally keep server racks in a closet?

Nope, I said it is so small compared to the others we call it the closet, like a nickname ya know ?

Why would I need to know any of that? Does the free game I play work consistently? Yes? K thnx.

So now you trying give me shit for calling out something I thought was BS?
I dont read these forums often cause they are mostly filled with garbage(especially the raid rules section) but I have heard that the staff claim they make zero money and they have also said they find the rmt insulting. So I am willing to bet that you with the 1200+ post have read it also. So if somebody is profiting while they say they find it insulting then I think the community should know.

Have a good day Glenzig, I am done talking to you now.

[Glenzig]

Nope, I said it is so small compared to the others we call it the closet, like a nickname ya know ?



So now you trying give me shit for calling out something I thought was BS?
I dont read these forums often cause they are mostly filled with garbage(especially the raid rules section) but I have heard that the staff claim they make zero money and they have also said they find the rmt insulting. So I am willing to bet that you with the 1200+ post have read it also. So if somebody is profiting while they say they find it insulting then I think the community should know.

Have a good day Glenzig, I am done talking to you now.

Ok. So apply that to the "rack". Same thing. If they can find a way to make money without ruining the server with things like RMT and cash shops, then I really don't care. Good for them. I highly doubt it though.

[Thepen]

Hey guys! My account survived another RMT slaughter. You'd think I would be caught by now if I did RMT, right? RIGHT? suck it.

[quido]

got prof?

[Thepen]

Too lazy to log in an screenshot my toon. How about I post the screenshot of you admitting to selling your AoN after leaving Azrael? Yeah? No?

[quido]

You're a bit behind on the times lol

[Thepen]

Yeah, well, with SoE announcing a new TLP server and Nostalrius releasing Saturday morning, I literally have no time at all to care about this POS server. Sorry.

[Master Roshi]

SoE?

[Thepen]

Daybreak, whatever. They will always be Sony to me.

[r0xx0r]

yay! happy to see this is policed as it is. A+ service for free! what can I say, I'm in love.

[Cymeon]

thepen is scum. hope he did get banned

[Ramathorn]

Yeah, well, with SoE announcing a new TLP server and Nostalrius releasing Saturday morning, I literally have no time at all to care about this POS server. Sorry.

playing on a server where everyone 6 boxes.... sounds so fun.

[Clark]

playing on a server where everyone 6 boxes.... sounds so fun.

[Clark]

Yeah, well, with SoE announcing a new TLP server and Nostalrius releasing Saturday morning, I literally have no time at all to care about this POS server. Sorry.

http://i.imgur.com/NRIJb8s.jpg

[Salahdin]

^healthy nerd. Has bottle of water not mt dew.

[kagrobb]

I think that is a 2 liter bottle of Chernobyly

[Master Roshi]

gonna say it's pepsi

[Grimjaw]

gonna say it's pepsi

[salimoneus]

Thank you for cleaning house again!

[Absynthe2k5]

I had sent a pm to rogean linking some RMT on a site. Hope that helped.

[Grimjaw]

yep that's what probably cracked the case. keep up the great work, detective.

[heartbrand]

havent seen bamzal on, prolly ate a RMT ban

[Smurflogik]

Yes my mind would of blew if you said server room, Considering the smallest server room I'v encountered has over 75 racks and we call that server room "the closet" cause it is so small compared to the others.

Here's our "server room". Definitely not 75 racks. Definitely not a closet.

http://imgur.com/a/XbC34

[Nazareth73]

Suweet. Everytime I see a rack I think Wargames, and then I want to pull random wire. Does the WOPR talk to you?

[shawnluc]

Here's our "server room". Definitely not 75 racks. Definitely not a closet.

http://imgur.com/a/XbC34

Yea for Brocade! Very nice setup.

[holsteinrx7]

pras

[isiah]

pras

Pras coming from a guy that was once banned for RMT.

Cool story, bro.

[Frudrura]

Just wanted to say, I really hope, there is another ban wave coming up.

[Tingowingo]

Just wanted to say, I really hope, there is another ban wave coming up.

[kierra]

as someone who recently came from a game where you were literally spammed with rmt advertising at a minimum of 6 times an hour, this is wonderful to hear. Nice going!

[Morlaeth]

as someone who recently came from a game where you were literally spammed with rmt advertising at a minimum of 6 times an hour, this is wonderful to hear. Nice going!

That annoys me about FFXIV

[Thulack]

as someone who recently came from a game where you were literally spammed with rmt advertising at a minimum of 6 times an hour, this is wonderful to hear. Nice going!

Kierra from Brell by chance?

[PDX0621]

Can't wait for the next wave and the ensuing drama that follows. I'd love if they waited until the night or two before Velious release to do it. All the RMT supertwinks that were created and leveled in anticipation would be crushed.

[Thulack]

Can't wait for the next wave and the ensuing drama that follows. I'd love if they waited until the night or two before Velious release to do it. All the RMT supertwinks that were created and leveled in anticipation would be crushed.

Honestly while that seems like the best way or at least most entertaining way the flood of petitions and shit GM's have to deal with after banwaves would make velious launching a day or 2 later such a shitshow. It would take legitimate people months to get unbanned. If anything like a month before launch. Gives time to sort out the falsebans.

[kierra]

yes

[kierra]

Kierra from Brell by chance?


yes, Im known as Psylynse now. =)

[Thulack]

yes, Im known as Psylynse now. =)

Woot Welcome to P99. I still remember the fun of the Baltimore Fan Faire. Man what i crazy weekend for a 18 year old :) I was Antimony back then on Brell. Just a youngin rogue that looked up to you for being the best :)

[kierra]

Woot Welcome to P99. I still remember the fun of the Baltimore Fan Faire. Man what i crazy weekend for a 18 year old :) I was Antimony back then on Brell. Just a youngin rogue that looked up to you for being the best :)

that was an awesome weekend, still remember giving Oribi a standing ovation when GMs were introduced =). I never really considered myself the best, just a regular player that loved the game and loved playing a rogue.

Cheers!
Ki!

[PopoTheGreat]

Blows my mind... 440 accounts? O.o

[Kaeras]

I fail to understand why players would come to a "classic" server like this to enjoy the experience again and then instead of working their way through the levels and earning their equipment or PP to buy it in game they choose to try to cheat the system even though they have been warned they could be banned ... well done staff

[quido]

I assume a good number of those 440 were overturned.

[Lev_Mer]

Blows my mind... 440 accounts? O.o

and even that was just agatha and heartbrand =\