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ko37qtl
03-01-2015, 08:14 PM
Not talking about research spells, dropped spells, or ones via quests but just ones that are available at merchants. I ran into two people the other night who were missing the same spell function and were well past the level where it became available. The omission made a little more sense to me with one than the other but I really wouldn't consider it an option to go without. I'm going to keep quiet about the spell effect to see if anyone else mentions it.
About the only one I can think of that I skip are illusions of the race of my enchanter and the invigor line. Otherwise, I tend to pick up even the spells I consider it unlikely I will ever use, much less being able to resist spells I think are really handy.
True north and if you plan to PL a caster the lesser resist buffs.
Millburn
03-01-2015, 08:39 PM
Yaulp is the main one that comes to mind for me on a Cleric. As a Shaman I loved having a targeted Yaulp-like spell but I can see how it could be skipped as a Cleric.
nnngn_zero
03-01-2015, 09:32 PM
As a pally, I would use the yaulp line religiously.
Never made use of the summoned hammer or halo tho...
NARF!
mr_jon3s
03-01-2015, 10:39 PM
The summoned light sources and clr/pally summoned hammer line. If this was luclin cleric summon hammer is OP.
azeth
03-01-2015, 10:53 PM
Summon: heatstone
Foggon
03-02-2015, 01:16 AM
Dance of the fireflies OP. I had to sell about 12 fire-beetle eyes to get it, but now I can summon a light source any time of day!
Deadlyfury
03-02-2015, 02:31 AM
Summon food/water as a mage, the stacked versions far outweigh the convenience
Lisset
03-02-2015, 02:47 AM
I play a human enchanter. I have every single spell for my class, INCLUDING Illusion: Human. :)
Mentathiel
03-02-2015, 05:53 AM
My enchanter duos with a wizard and she is missing about half of her spells. Anything involving a light source, vision modifications or the name Al'Kabor and she just doesn't want to know. I think part of the issue is that a human can see perfectly well in the dark, so infravision and light sources are all but pointless.
Dance of the fireflies OP. I had to sell about 12 fire-beetle eyes to get it, but now I can summon a light source any time of day!
Need that one come VSR!
Kreylyn
03-02-2015, 10:14 AM
Show up for a raid in CoMist and find out not one cleric has cure blindness.... :eek:
Krey
maskedmelon
03-02-2015, 10:18 AM
I tend to purchase all my spells even if I do not think I'll use them. I do prioritize my purchases also though, so I may not have a spell as soon as it becomes available if I am playing a naked newb. The one spell that has no proved useful to me is the pally summoned hammer. Though if I were to have played from launch that May have proven differently. True North is handy for low level casters before you max sense heading.
Varren
03-02-2015, 10:30 AM
I like to stay armed on my corpse runs. I always summon a hammer
whitebandit
03-02-2015, 12:25 PM
I notice alot of people skip Identify, its a somewhat useless spell, until you need it :-p
Teneran
03-02-2015, 12:53 PM
I have skipped a few illusions, namely high elf (I am one), wood elf, half elf.
sox7d
03-02-2015, 01:06 PM
people always give me shit for this but i didn't buy SoW on my shaman. i didn't want to deal with people always asking so i just refuse to get it LOL
Teppler
03-02-2015, 01:09 PM
people always give me shit for this but i didn't buy SoW on my shaman. i didn't want to deal with people always asking so i just refuse to get it LOL
Yeah but then how many times have you had to go through explaining why you're a shaman without SoW?
sox7d
03-02-2015, 01:14 PM
Yeah but then how many times have you had to go through explaining why you're a shaman without SoW?
i have a macro button that explains it 5x
maskedmelon
03-02-2015, 01:36 PM
i have a macro button that explains it 5x
Why not have the best of both worlds: buy your spell and just tell people no? ^^
I have skipped a few illusions, namely high elf (I am one), wood elf, half elf.
I'm so sorry. :(
Erydan Ouragan
03-02-2015, 01:50 PM
people always give me shit for this but i didn't buy SoW on my shaman. i didn't want to deal with people always asking so i just refuse to get it LOL
Better yet, buy a couple copies so when people ask you for SoW, you trade them the scroll!
sox7d
03-02-2015, 01:51 PM
Better yet, buy a couple copies so when people ask you for SoW, you trade them the scroll!
You're going to make a great dad one day.
maskedmelon
03-02-2015, 01:53 PM
Better yet, buy a couple copies so when people ask you for SoW, you trade them the scroll!
Ooooooo I like this one ^^. I may have to try this when I eventually start my shammy alt. in the interim, I'll start carrying a copy on my main in case I run into Sox ^^
planarity
03-02-2015, 02:05 PM
just get every spell. maybe one day you'll want to use yaulp to be not encumbered. the cast time is so short you can cast it on the run
perditionparty
03-02-2015, 02:32 PM
Show up for a raid in CoMist and find out not one cleric has cure blindness.... :eek:
Krey
I've used this spell about 15 to 20 times. Those times in groups we're pretty important and when not, being blind in this game is stupidly dumb.
Voland
03-02-2015, 05:29 PM
people always give me shit for this but i didn't buy SoW on my shaman. i didn't want to deal with people always asking so i just refuse to get it LOL
Shaman without SOW is just wrong!
ko37qtl
03-02-2015, 06:19 PM
I've used this spell about 15 to 20 times. Those times in groups we're pretty important and when not, being blind in this game is stupidly dumb.
My cleric got a lot of use out of it in Highpass. It seems to me that critters capable of casting it use it more now than they did back in the old days on Live. I only very occasionally recall it as a problem in groups when I was leveling my druid, who can't do anything about that.
perditionparty
03-02-2015, 06:21 PM
My cleric got a lot of use out of it in Highpass. It seems to me that critters capable of casting it use it more now than they did back in the old days on Live. I only very occasionally recall it as a problem in groups when I was leveling my druid, who can't do anything about that.
Half those times were in highpass. It seems only mobs in 20s and 30s, while still incredibly rare, that use blindness. Any 40 and 50 mobs/dungeons where you see it? (no pun intended)
ko37qtl
03-02-2015, 06:24 PM
Half those times were in highpass. It seems only mobs in 20s and 30s, while still incredibly rare, that use blindness. Any 40 and 50 mobs/dungeons where you see it? (no pun intended)
My characters aren't up that high yet, so I haven't seen those spots again. I have a vague recollection that there was some kind of change in the critter AI maybe 2003+ that inclined casters more toward spells like that and perhaps that still holds sway here.
Half those times were in highpass. It seems only mobs in 20s and 30s, while still incredibly rare, that use blindness. Any 40 and 50 mobs/dungeons where you see it? (no pun intended)
I've had sarnaks and frogs in kunark zones & dungeons (including named mobs) use blind spells on me, black reavers in CoM proc flash of light, there're mobs in Fear that blind you. MR is a grand tanking buff anytime caster enemies are involved.
I know this isn't the Priest forums, but I've seen the cleric hammer mentioned a couple times. I'm nearing 46 and so far I can say I've never found a use for it. However the wiki page on these hammers state they are "particularly effective at smiting the undead" or something to that effect.
I've often wonder what this means, and as far as I can gather gathered that it's just stating the hammers are "magic" thus are able to land attacks on greater undead; ghouls, mummies etc. Can anyone confirm or deny this?
Looking from that angle, I can see how it could be useful in a very classic, vanilla eq environment; where pixel dealers aren't hanging out on every corner giving every newbie their first hit free :P
Figure that as a cleric you can EASILY get to 40 without seeing ANYTHING better than a fine steel morning star.
Auvdar
03-02-2015, 11:31 PM
Back in 2009 I skipped over the lvl 9 druid Tree Form spell, mostly because I was poor. (And it had almost no use at the time).
Think I finally remembered and got around to picking it up in my 30's. Still has almost zero use. Now on Red I could see it becoming useful, but here.. meh. Think it has a very minor regen added to it (would have to look it up). Spirit of Oak however,.. om nom nom !
khanable
03-02-2015, 11:33 PM
my cleric only had AE's and minor healing up until like level 45 or something I think
Half those times were in highpass. It seems only mobs in 20s and 30s, while still incredibly rare, that use blindness. Any 40 and 50 mobs/dungeons where you see it? (no pun intended)
I'm not sure how exactly the mob AI works but I've never seen them buff while in combat. So mobs that cast blinds are mostly shamans (Goblins, Sarnaks, Frogloks, Kobolds) which are very common at lower levels and have limited combat spells available to them. So as the shaman NPCs get higher they get more abilities just like players. Disease dot, poison dot, slow, cold nuke, blind, NPC only attacks and debuffs. Fight the Kobold shaman in Steamfont and you have a higher chance of getting hit with a blind because it simply has fewer spells. Fight the Chancellor of Di'Zok in LoIO and you've got a poison dot, a disease dot, blind, ice nuke, slow, and maybe a poison nuke.
Oleris
03-03-2015, 01:05 AM
deadeye (see invis) as a necro... didn't need to use it until I was in sky where DMF doesn't work.
contemptor
03-03-2015, 01:10 AM
my cleric only had AE's and minor healing up until like level 45 or something I think
You don't play this game, go away
I never skip any spells just because I'm OCD about having a full spellbound.
Mentathiel
03-03-2015, 10:21 AM
I know this isn't the Priest forums, but I've seen the cleric hammer mentioned a couple times.
I have it for my cleric because I have had to sell my main weapon once or twice to afford spells. I suppose, in hindsight, the money I would have saved from not buying the spell might have saved me from having to do that...
ko37qtl
03-03-2015, 04:10 PM
I almost forgot to add the prompt for the thread: two casters in their 30s without see invis. To my knowledge, they were not previously acquainted. I don't like PvP, but I consider see invis to be nearly mandatory both to purchase and to keep up. I just like knowing what's going on around me and I was baffled that anyone who had the option, particularly with the ability to go invisible themselves would be without it.
perditionparty
03-03-2015, 04:13 PM
I almost forgot to add the prompt for the thread: two casters in their 30s without see invis. To my knowledge, they were not previously acquainted. I don't like PvP, but I consider see invis to be nearly mandatory both to purchase and to keep up. I just like knowing what's going on around me and I was baffled that anyone who had the option, particularly with the ability to go invisible themselves would be without it.
I can understand people who couldn't see (again no pun intended) the use of this, but if youre escorting anyone or traveling as a group through agro areas its dumb to not have it.
ko37qtl
03-03-2015, 07:23 PM
I can understand people who couldn't see (again no pun intended) the use of this, but if youre escorting anyone or traveling as a group through agro areas its dumb to not have it.
I find it a bit unnerving to be invisible and not able to see myself, so I'd want it regardless. It was this very situation where it came up first and then someone later asking for it and I was the only one who had it available. It struck me very strangely for casters in their 30s.
Yumyums Inmahtumtums
03-03-2015, 07:28 PM
That is weird.
I prioritized my spells before I had cash. Now I just buy everything and file the useless/outdated ones in the back of the book.
Grizzled
03-04-2015, 12:29 AM
Bard was a little different for me on live. But one that sticks out is song of sustenance.
My bard never had water, what was the point :D. My friends would log him on for a med bot, and they would go and buy him water so they would quit seeing...
You are thirsty.
You are out of drink.
azeth
03-04-2015, 08:04 AM
Bard was a little different for me on live. But one that sticks out is song of sustenance.
My bard never had water, what was the point :D. My friends would log him on for a med bot, and they would go and buy him water so they would quit seeing...
You are thirsty.
You are out of drink.
hah same. my rogues been thirsty for 5 years
Mentathiel
03-04-2015, 09:18 AM
I had a very interesting 'chat' with a newbie ogre warrior in EC who was begging me to give him drink to go with the stack of foraged roots I had given him (seriously, nobody can eat them as fast as they can forage them) and kept complaining that he was thirsty. A few of us were trying to explain to him that only people with mana need to drink, but he seemed as confused as any ogre would be.
I suppose you see the message and assume the game wouldn't say anything if it were not important...
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