View Full Version : Your want for change sux go away
Blitzers
03-21-2015, 11:07 AM
Every freaking time I read these forums it's another bullshit story of " I want change " whether it's boxing , instances, fast travel, more expansion, etc. p99 is fine leave it alone. If you want something different go somewhere else. It's just like all the foreigners that come to the USA and start protesting and demanding that the USA turn into the shithole country you just fled from. If you love the rule set / govt you left GO BACK. No ones holding a gun to your head saying u have to stay here. I'm a dick for saying this but I don't care about your feelings or your shitty opinion.
Guybrush
03-21-2015, 11:33 AM
Got dang foreigners better get the HECK outta my Norrath afore I bear arms all over the place in here! Yeeehaw!!
myriverse
03-21-2015, 11:47 AM
Why would anyone be here if they didn't want it to be exactly like 2000, with as many of its faults as possible?
Blitzers
03-21-2015, 11:53 AM
Faults & changing the game mechanics/structure are 2 different things faults aka bugs are not what what I'm talking about. Sorry guess I didn't clarify enough
Rararboker
03-21-2015, 11:54 AM
Every freaking time I read these forums it's another bullshit story of " I want change " whether it's boxing , instances, fast travel, more expansion, etc. p99 is fine leave it alone. If you want something different go somewhere else. It's just like all the foreigners that come to the USA and start protesting and demanding that the USA turn into the shithole country you just fled from. If you love the rule set / govt you left GO BACK. No ones holding a gun to your head saying u have to stay here. I'm a dick for saying this but I don't care about your feelings or your shitty opinion.
Much truth. It seems like there is a small increase in these kinds of threads lately too. Can't tell if excellent trolls or very bad players. Either way, they'd be better of going elsewhere.
Sadre Spinegnawer
03-21-2015, 12:16 PM
I think the OP thinks he is making an analogy, but how do we know he didn't just discover the reason
Blitzers
03-21-2015, 12:29 PM
I think the OP thinks he is making an analogy, but how do we know he didn't just discover the reason
Umm yeah
Swish
03-21-2015, 12:49 PM
You know what this thread needs?
http://i.imgur.com/bwQfIVF.gif
Erydan Ouragan
03-21-2015, 01:07 PM
Project 1999 is a great server as it stands. However, we could implement a few simple tweaks that would improve the general gameplay, such as:
- OOC regen
- Mercs
- Boxing
- PoK stones
- The Bazaar
- Defiant gear
- Instancing
Now, these changes are very minimal and wouldn't affect gameplay that much. The rest is fine.
Cecily
03-21-2015, 02:32 PM
I dunno. That's pushing it, Erydan. P99 does need defiant gear though.
Blitzers
03-21-2015, 02:33 PM
Defiant gear I hated that welfare gear so much
Tiggles
03-21-2015, 02:33 PM
Got dang foreigners better get the HECK outta my Norrath afore I bear arms all over the place in here! Yeeehaw!!
jcr4990
03-21-2015, 02:33 PM
Why would anyone be here if they didn't want it to be exactly like 2000, with as many of its faults as possible?I boxed in 2000
Cecily
03-21-2015, 02:37 PM
Casuals stealing our jerbs.
PDX0621
03-21-2015, 04:17 PM
Defiant gear I hated that welfare gear so much
What exactly is/was defiant gear? I hear that term tossed around all the time. I think I'd stopped playing live before whatever that is was implemented.
Thulack
03-21-2015, 04:35 PM
What exactly is/was defiant gear? I hear that term tossed around all the time. I think I'd stopped playing live before whatever that is was implemented.
Basically generic sets are armor with good stats on it that drop from level appropriate mobs. So you could kill level 30 random non named and they have a chance at dropping armor that was better then you could get in guk/solb etc
iruinedyourday
03-21-2015, 04:36 PM
Every freaking time I read these forums it's another bullshit story of " I want change " whether it's boxing , instances, fast travel, more expansion, etc. p99 is fine leave it alone. If you want something different go somewhere else. It's just like all the foreigners that come to the USA and start protesting and demanding that the USA turn into the shithole country you just fled from. If you love the rule set / govt you left GO BACK. No ones holding a gun to your head saying u have to stay here. I'm a dick for saying this but I don't care about your feelings or your shitty opinion.
no your a dick for bringing your ignorant political views into a server chat thread.
I agree with the first half though, second half you have a lot to learn about real life son :P
HeallunRumblebelly
03-21-2015, 04:54 PM
Don't want to get him started, but...
Nirgon was right. Item recharging needs to go. Using clickies for everything is getting tedious. Soulfires / midnight mallets also need to go :P
Erydan Ouragan
03-21-2015, 05:06 PM
I dunno. That's pushing it, Erydan. P99 does need defiant gear though.
That might be pushing it, it's true.
Defiant gear is amazing because it allows true casual™ players like me to stop focusing on gear upgrades so much. That way we can concentrate on the fun aspects of gameplay (like killing orcs and frogloks).
Plus, with defiant gear being way better than anything that drops in kunark raids and having them drop from regular random mobs, EVERYONE will have the same gear! That way, no more poopsocking or guild drama, only tons of dead orcs and frogloks.
Thulack
03-21-2015, 05:09 PM
That might be pushing it, it's true.
Defiant gear is amazing because it allows true casual™ players like me to stop focusing on gear upgrades so much. That way we can concentrate on the fun aspects of gameplay (like killing orcs and frogloks).
Plus, with defiant gear being way better than anything that drops in kunark raids and having them drop from regular random mobs, EVERYONE will have the same gear! That way, no more poopsocking or guild drama, only tons of dead orcs and frogloks.
You can spend 5k on a toon and have enough gear to level to 60. If you want best gear then you have to work for it.
iruinedyourday
03-21-2015, 05:10 PM
Don't want to get him started, but...
Nirgon was right. Item recharging needs to go. Using clickies for everything is getting tedious. Soulfires / midnight mallets also need to go :P
Does it? i mean, whats like the part of the game that is ruined, or slightly ruined because of it?
I personally think clickies are an awesome way to expand the game into a really interesting arena.. Like its 1 thing to master your class, but once you do clickies give you many alternate ways to combo abilities and stratiges that make the game really interesting to me...
its like playing magic the gathering, you're like, this strat works so well, but i have this one problem.. then you figure out a clicky item, and you realise that you can combo it with your strat and be super awesome!
I have a merchant all my toons are bound next to, so I gate there and buy/sell my items to recharge them, it gives me a feeling of RP that I have a home somewhere in norrath that is un-traveled by other players.. its got my little merchant in there, that I pretend is my maid.. its really cool to me and very RP.
Thats my thoughts,... so what are the downside to clickies? what are the clickies that have broken the game, and why?
Erydan Ouragan
03-21-2015, 05:19 PM
You can spend 5k on a toon and have enough gear to level to 60. If you want best gear then you have to work for it.
That's such a capitalist mentality.
Why would i need to "work" for it? These are virtual items, they're not finite, like money or physical resources.
You people are weird. You can only find contentment and happiness, not by the fact that you have good gear, but by the fact that other people have worse gear than you.
Your satisfaction in this game revolves around the concept that other people must have less than you in order for you to feel happy, like all capitalists.
Defiant gear is amazing concept because it makes everyone equal. Then it's easier to make friends to go kill skeletons rather than comparing breastplates like teenagers in the shower after football practice.
iruinedyourday
03-21-2015, 05:36 PM
That's such a capitalist mentality.
Why would i need to "work" for it? These are virtual items, they're not finite, like money or physical resources.
You people are weird. You can only find contentment and happiness, not by the fact that you have good gear, but by the fact that other people have worse gear than you.
Your satisfaction in this game revolves around the concept that other people must have less than you in order for you to feel happy, like all capitalists.
Defiant gear is amazing concept because it makes everyone equal. Then it's easier to make friends to go kill skeletons rather than comparing breastplates like teenagers in the shower after football practice.
once you get a toon end gamed & 60 and then you wake up and think, hey I dont even want to play today.. youll realize that getting the gear is far more fun than having the gear.
also, difant gear is for another game, go play that game if you want it so bad.. NOT IN MY COUNTRY
GnashingOfTeeth
03-21-2015, 05:42 PM
I want free school for my spawn and healthcare, and I demand Rogean and Nilbog provide it now.
Also perma ban anyone who says casual in forum or game chat in any way.
That way noone feels bad.
/salt
Erydan Ouragan
03-21-2015, 05:42 PM
once you get a toon end gamed & 60 and then you wake up and think, hey I dont even want to play today.. youll realize that getting the gear is far more fun than having the gear.
also, difant gear is for another game, go play that game if you want it so bad.. NOT IN MY COUNTRY
No, i would rather have defiant gear on P99, because it's a matter of changing the system. A revolution.
Equality for all!
iruinedyourday
03-21-2015, 06:01 PM
No, i would rather have defiant gear on P99, because it's a matter of changing the system. A revolution.
Equality for all!
its a slippery slope, what next after defiant gear? cats on the moon? no thanks..
86753o9
03-21-2015, 07:10 PM
Glad I'm not the only one who finds it puzzling that people who like the later expansions of eq chose to play on a server called Project 1999 instead of a different server.
iruinedyourday
03-21-2015, 07:13 PM
http://cdn.meme.am/instances/500x/60493609.jpg
jarshale
03-21-2015, 07:18 PM
Defiant gear was a travesty. Shit like this:
http://zam.zamimg.com/images/f/c/fce4fc11bdf82e63a2035af9df8c1057.jpg
randomly dropping off decaying skeletons and gnoll pups is a bad idea.
Cecily
03-21-2015, 08:16 PM
Defiance - gear you can raid in. 2015
nerdvsgeek
03-21-2015, 08:54 PM
While I tend to disagree with the defiant gear dropping, I don't see why it would be such as stretch to make sufficient mobs spawn and drop stuff useful for the different types of armor - silk, ruined/low/medium/high leathers, ore blocks - drop off basic mobs in the starting zones (e.g. animals for leather of the appropriate size, spiders for silk, humanoid for ores). This would also give use for basic levels of tradeskills.
Cecily
03-21-2015, 09:01 PM
Defiant gear was a travesty. Shit like this:
http://zam.zamimg.com/images/f/c/fce4fc11bdf82e63a2035af9df8c1057.jpg
randomly dropping off decaying skeletons and gnoll pups is a bad idea.
Seriously. How the heck can you expect people to raid in that garbage? Defiant gear on P99 should have AT LEAST 5svall on all pieces.
Blitzers
03-21-2015, 09:21 PM
no your a dick for bringing your ignorant political views into a server chat thread.
I agree with the first half though, second half you have a lot to learn about real life son :P
lol ignorant because it's the truth and offensive? If you like u like the shitty country you were born in so much STAY THERE!
I don't have the ability to care about your feelings, or worry about being politically correct.
lemme come to your house and start telling u how u should run it asshole.
Blitzers
03-21-2015, 09:34 PM
That's such a capitalist mentality.
Why would i need to "work" for it? These are virtual items, they're not finite, like money or physical resources.
You people are weird. You can only find contentment and happiness, not by the fact that you have good gear, but by the fact that other people have worse gear than you.
Your satisfaction in this game revolves around the concept that other people must have less than you in order for you to feel happy, like all capitalists.
Defiant gear is amazing concept because it makes everyone equal. Then it's easier to make friends to go kill skeletons rather than comparing breastplates like teenagers in the shower after football practice.
My satisfaction has nothing to do with u being a bum on the street personally I could care less, you make bad decisions = suck at life it's not my problem and I don't spend anytime worrying about who has a Mercedes or who doesn't. Capitalism and the charity it has provided for the impoverished is second to none. No other economic structure has even come close. U capitalist haters need to look in the mirror for your problems and quit blaming those of us that have succeeded. I'm too busy taking care of my family to care if u have enough pot to smoke or if your anime porn loads fast enough
Donruss
03-21-2015, 09:40 PM
I played lots of eq. I played WOW when it was cool thing to do in my highschool. The game was okay. cartoon like characters, 3rd person view, and small in terms of mobs took a little getting used to. I loved seeing the dmg above the mobs head.
Everything was going well. My paladin was in his mid 40s iirc and then a hammer dropped. I kept looking at the stats in disbelieve. The ratio was insane! Off a random normal mob I was solo'ing? Not grouped for? Not even raided for? I verified that the hammer was game changing and as good as I thought it was. It was, and I quit that day. Dumbest thing ever
Erydan Ouragan
03-21-2015, 09:44 PM
My satisfaction has nothing to do with u being a bum on the street personally I could care less, you make bad decisions = suck at life it's not my problem and I don't spend anytime worrying about who has a Mercedes or who doesn't. Capitalism and the charity it has provided for the impoverished is second to none. No other economic structure has even come close. U capitalist haters need to look in the mirror for your problems and quit blaming those of us that have succeeded. I'm too busy taking care of my family to care if u have enough pot to smoke or if your anime porn loads fast enough
This is all fine and well, but no matter how you put it, this server needs defiant gear so that everyone is equal.
Blitzers
03-21-2015, 09:47 PM
Btw to all u capitalist haters what economic system would u rather have? Communism/socialism? We've seen those work well in the past mass graves Yaaaaaa!
Erydan Ouragan
03-21-2015, 09:48 PM
Seriously. How the heck can you expect people to raid in that garbage? Defiant gear on P99 should have AT LEAST 5svall on all pieces.
This is what's wrong with this server. Some weak stats and a spellcasting focus or two and it's the end of the world.
I swear some of them glue a pencil on their forehead, tie their hands behind their backs and peck at the keyboard.
"No keybinds because it makes the game too easy bro!~"
Erydan Ouragan
03-21-2015, 09:49 PM
Btw to all u capitalist haters what economic system would u rather have? Communism/socialism? We've seen those work well in the past mass graves Yaaaaaa!
An economy with the bazaar enabled that can easily be accessed through PoK stones, and sells defiant gear.
Blitzers
03-21-2015, 09:57 PM
Don't forget mercs stealing our jobs and driving blue collar wages down. Woot woot
iruinedyourday
03-21-2015, 09:57 PM
lol ignorant because it's the truth and offensive? If you like u like the shitty country you were born in so much STAY THERE!
I don't have the ability to care about your feelings, or worry about being politically correct.
lemme come to your house and start telling u how u should run it asshole.
I don't care about your stupid feelings shut your hypocrite mouth.
Blitzers
03-21-2015, 10:11 PM
I don't care about your stupid feelings shut your hypocrite mouth.
Explain my hypocrisy? Or are we just throwing words out there without understanding their meanings, son
iruinedyourday
03-21-2015, 10:16 PM
Explain my hypocrisy? Or are we just throwing words out there without understanding their meanings, son
Quit crying about what offends you so much if you think nobody else should.
Blitzers
03-21-2015, 10:20 PM
Lol that's it, your so funny. I don't think I ever said I was offended. I just think it's stupid. Kinda like someone going to McDonald's and bitching why they won't sell them a whopper cry all you want no skin off my back. Your a funny lil guy, nice piano btw u look cute in your mothers basement
iruinedyourday
03-21-2015, 10:23 PM
Lol that's it, your so funny. I don't think I ever said I was offended. I just think it's stupid. Kinda like someone going to McDonald's and bitching why they won't sell them a whopper cry all you want no skin off my back. Your a funny lil guy, nice piano btw u look cute in your mothers basement
You sound like a cool guy with an eclectic life of never flying on an airplane and eating fast food everyday.
Blitzers
03-21-2015, 10:31 PM
You sound like a cool guy with an eclectic life of never flying on an airplane and eating fast food everyday.
whats an airplane??? Fuud yummy...
Really why don't we get back to your original thought about how u think its a good idea for people who flee their shitty country to come to a better country and then try and turn it into the shitty country they just left. Or maybe you would rather not engage in that discussion because u realized your position sux?
Laugher
03-21-2015, 10:34 PM
Ornamentations on pre-luclin chars would be awesome
you know, for The Vision™
The Vision is an unproudly registered trademark of Daybreak Games
http://i.imgur.com/ayTSndT.jpg
Donruss
03-21-2015, 10:53 PM
This is all fine and well, but no matter how you put it, this server needs defiant gear so that everyone is equal.
Wtf, is this guy serious? Some one who has been playing since server opened is going to be more well established than someone who has been playing less than a year. More plat, more items, more everything. The more you put into something, the more you should get out of it. Would be dumb for a casual or new player to be equipped like a member of a raiding guild.
Guybrush
03-21-2015, 11:53 PM
I'm sick of all these losers from Faydwer with their gay ass pointy ears and limp wrists marching over to MY Commonlands and selling their cheap foreign junk. Then they complain that there's not enough trees or whatever while they undercut all my auctions. I think we all know that they aren't paying taxes either, no wonder Freeport is such a shithole now.
Donruss
03-22-2015, 12:05 AM
THEY TOOK OUR JOBS!!!
Sadre Spinegnawer
03-22-2015, 12:18 AM
That's such a capitalist mentality.
Why would i need to "work" for it? These are virtual items, they're not finite, like money or physical resources.
You people are weird. You can only find contentment and happiness, not by the fact that you have good gear, but by the fact that other people have worse gear than you.
Your satisfaction in this game revolves around the concept that other people must have less than you in order for you to feel happy, like all capitalists.
Defiant gear is amazing concept because it makes everyone equal. Then it's easier to make friends to go kill skeletons rather than comparing breastplates like teenagers in the shower after football practice.
This thread has it all. Foreigners flooding the server with demands for change, and now commies telling us pixel hunt is counter-revolutionary. Isn't someone gonna break the Godwin barrier for us next plz?
edit: Wait a sec. "...rather than comparing breastplates like teenagers in the shower after football practice..." Ummm, is this a thing?
Life617
03-22-2015, 12:37 AM
Hopefully change does come so the OP can crawl back into his hole.
Topgunben
03-22-2015, 12:49 AM
OP is right.
If you want defiant gear. mercs, easy exp, instances etc, just go f2p.
Erydan Ouragan
03-22-2015, 06:17 AM
OP is right.
If you want defiant gear. mercs, easy exp, instances etc, just go f2p.
No, it's more than that.
You see, p99 is like the north korea of EQ. It's an archaic world, cut from the rest, where all the wealth and power are held by a few at the top.
Defiant gear would be like bringing democracy, because the gear is so good and drops everywhere, everyone would have access to it. It's the most american thing that could happen on the server.
Guybrush
03-22-2015, 09:33 AM
It's foreigners like you that have ruined your own lands! You'll not ruin mine!!
Erydan Ouragan
03-22-2015, 10:09 AM
edit: Wait a sec. "...rather than comparing breastplates like teenagers in the shower after football practice..." Ummm, is this a thing?
Yes, for most people in EQ, gear is like the size of the penis. Having better gear than someone is like having a bigger dick, it makes them feel better about themselves at the expense of someone else, that's why it's wrong.
With defiant gear, every penis is the same size, so no more comparing and thinking they're better than other people. It basically eliminates the hardcore vs casual line of thinking and will foster friendly relationships across the server as a whole.
Larken
03-22-2015, 11:44 AM
Yes, for most people in EQ, gear is like the size of the penis. Having better gear than someone is like having a bigger dick, it makes them feel better about themselves at the expense of someone else, that's why it's wrong.
With defiant gear, every penis is the same size, so no more comparing and thinking they're better than other people. It basically eliminates the hardcore vs casual line of thinking and will foster friendly relationships across the server as a whole.
You sir, are an idiot.
Topgunben
03-22-2015, 12:47 PM
Yes, for most people in EQ, gear is like the size of the penis. Having better gear than someone is like having a bigger dick, it makes them feel better about themselves at the expense of someone else, that's why it's wrong.
With defiant gear, every penis is the same size, so no more comparing and thinking they're better than other people. It basically eliminates the hardcore vs casual line of thinking and will foster friendly relationships across the server as a whole.
The server is friendly. I am by no means an elite player. The most expensive item I have is 400pp, and the highest char I have is 31. I don't mind that other players have 100k worth of gear, they put more time in to the game and therefore have more. Isn't that the appeal of the game for newb and veteran alike? to have a challenge, sometimes almost seemingly impossible mobs, camps or raids. But slowly over time (maybe years) you achieve your goal.
I say go to live if you want all that other stuff. It's free.
To your point about who's got a bigger dick Yada Yada Yada. Stop being such a queerbo. stop staring at other dudes dicks. Its messed up.
Rararboker
03-22-2015, 02:38 PM
You sir, are an idiot.
That's such a capitalist mentality.
While I find your idea of capitalism flattering, I don't think you have to be a capitalist to believe hard work is necessary to accomplishing goals.
Why would i need to "work" for it? These are virtual items, they're not finite, like money or physical resources.
Because working towards a goal is what has driven people to play games for thousands of years. Game: a form of play or sport, especially a competitive one played according to rules and decided by skill, strength, or luck.
Striving to become more skilled at the game is inherent in the concept of a game. Competition is also inherent in the traditional concept of games, even when it is competition with oneself. It is what has driven people to compete in sports, become good at Poker, study chess, play arcade games, etc. The game sets up a goal and it is for you to overcome obstacles to achievement. It has driven people to play games for thousands of years, long before capitalism allowed people to keep what they earned.
You people are weird. You can only find contentment and happiness, not by the fact that you have good gear, but by the fact that other people have worse gear than you.
That is like saying Olympic athletes only find contentment and happiness in the fact they are better at the sport than you. It is a distortion of their aim, they want to be the best. It says more about you than it does about them that you choose to view people wanting goals and obstacles to overcome as only being happy when they are better than you.
Your satisfaction in this game revolves around the concept that other people must have less than you in order for you to feel happy, like all capitalists.
For the average person, you won't get far as a capitalist if your goal is to make money. The vast majority are focused on creating something that people will want and need. It is you that chooses to focus on a few who measure success by their wealth.
Defiant gear is amazing concept because it makes everyone equal. Then it's easier to make friends to go kill skeletons rather than comparing breastplates like teenagers in the shower after football practice.
But everyone is not equal, they have different strengths and weaknesses, different goals and objectives, and no amount of giving equal rewards will make them equal.
I have more faith in those who don't get the best gear. I do not believe they are as petty as you seem to think they are. They understand why we don't just make everyone equal by making them max level when they log in. They know that certain bragging rights come with being level 50, just as certain bragging rights come with obtaining difficult to obtain gear. People come to games to have goals laid out for them and barriers to their accomplishment, it is what games have always been about.
Yes, for most people in EQ, gear is like the size of the penis. Having better gear than someone is like having a bigger dick, it makes them feel better about themselves at the expense of someone else, that's why it's wrong.
Most people's goal is to feel good about themselves and what they have done. It is you that chooses to measure yourself against them and feel like it is happening at your expense. What is wrong is people thinking that others should be brought down to their level so they don't feel bad about their accomplishments. You want to rob someone of the sense of accomplishment at achieving a goal because you aren't secure enough to understand their accomplishment isn't about you.
With defiant gear, every penis is the same size, so no more comparing and thinking they're better than other people. It basically eliminates the hardcore vs casual line of thinking and will foster friendly relationships across the server as a whole.
What you really mean is no more comparing and thinking I'm not measuring up. Nobody can make you feel inadequate, only you. People will always have more or less than you it is what you choose to believe that means about you that matters. What fosters relationships and friendships is acceptance and tolerance for differences.
Blitzers
03-22-2015, 03:09 PM
Defiant Armor is welfare gear plain and simple. Your strive for equality sux. There is no such thing as equality "pipe dream" bullshit. This Equality bullshit is used to steal wealth. Every govt that has ever used the bullshit line of equality, is nothing more then tyrannical and needs to be abolished by the people. If we all had static ambitions morals and education then maybe we could have equality but we live in a dynamic world with corruption immorality and laziness. Equality sux cause it's fake.
And go ask the Soviets how well equality worked out for them.
No, i would rather have defiant gear on P99, because it's a matter of changing the system. A revolution.
Equality for all!
Seriously now, eliminating all rare gear also creates equality for all. Why not advocate that?
Synthlol
03-22-2015, 03:32 PM
Yes, for most people in EQ, gear is like the size of the penis. Having better gear than someone is like having a bigger dick, it makes them feel better about themselves at the expense of someone else, that's why it's wrong.
With defiant gear, every penis is the same size, so no more comparing and thinking they're better than other people. It basically eliminates the hardcore vs casual line of thinking and will foster friendly relationships across the server as a whole.
But my dick is bigger than yours.
pink grapefruit
03-22-2015, 03:32 PM
With the exceptions of Nexus travel and the bazaar, Luclin was a fantastic expansion. It's truly a shame we won't ever get the beastlord class, Ssra Temple, or shorty hybrids here.
With the exceptions of Nexus travel and the bazaar, Luclin was a fantastic expansion. It's truly a shame we won't ever get the beastlord class, Ssra Temple, or shorty hybrids here.
The Bazaar wasn't open at the start of Luclin, if I recall correctly. I remember running through the area going: "holy crap what is this for."
I liked the Beastlord class, made one and played though the starter quests (which I liked a lot).
I think though, it also brought some popular hunting areas that were perhaps a little to easy to level in (based on them being preferred leveling spots many years later). I'm not sure what the implications are to gameplay and balance.
Topgunben
03-22-2015, 03:43 PM
[QUOTE=Kayd;1829361]While I find your idea of capitalism flattering, I don't think you have to be a capitalist to believe hard work is necessary to accomplishing goals.
Because working towards a goal is what has driven people to play games for thousands of years. Game: a form of play or sport, especially a competitive one played according to rules and decided by skill, strength, or luck.
Striving to become more skilled at the game is inherent in the concept of a game. Competition is also inherent in the traditional concept of games, even when it is competition with oneself. It is what has driven people to compete in sports, become good at Poker, study chess, play arcade games, etc. The game sets up a goal and it is for you to overcome obstacles to achievement. It has driven people to play games for thousands of years, long before capitalism allowed people to keep what they earned.
That is like saying Olympic athletes only find contentment and happiness in the fact they are better at the sport than you. It is a distortion of their aim, they want to be the best. It says more about you than it does about them that you choose to view people wanting goals and obstacles to overcome as only being happy when they are better than you.
For the average person, you won't get far as a capitalist if your goal is to make money. The vast majority are focused on creating something that people will want and need. It is you that chooses to focus on a few who measure success by their wealth.
But everyone is not equal, they have different strengths and weaknesses, different goals and objectives, and no amount of giving equal rewards will make them equal.
I have more faith in those who don't get the best gear. I do not believe they are as petty as you seem to think they are. They understand why we don't just make everyone equal by making them max level when they log in. They know that certain bragging rights come with being level 50, just as certain bragging rights come with obtaining difficult to obtain gear. People come to games to have goals laid out for them and barriers to their accomplishment, it is what games have always been about.[/QUOTE
really well put. ]
Sinder
03-22-2015, 03:45 PM
can we get mounts in the game? I wanna ride on griffons and tigers! maybe like a selo's speed one available at lvl 1 for 100k?
Nottan
03-22-2015, 11:42 PM
This thread is worse than cancer.
fadetree
03-23-2015, 08:54 AM
You sound like a cool guy with an eclectic life of never flying on an airplane and eating fast food everyday.
! This is the most incomprehensible yet somehow strangely effective 'put-down' I've ever read. I'm not the same person I was before I read it.
With defiant gear, every penis is the same size,
My God, this thread is full of win. So many amazing statements, rich with ironic ambiguity.
Nexus honestly wasnt that bad. I think people lump the nexus concept in with PoK books when talking about later expansions because they operate on a similar principle, but the actual effect of each on game play was pretty different. Nexus in no way replaced ports, because ports still had the advantage of speed over the nexus. If I remember right, nexus pads gave you 4 locations and triggered every 15 minutes, so a trip could take you up to 30 minutes. Ports in comparison have like 4x the number of destinations and are almost instant if you're near a busy travel hub (OT, EC, KC, etc). Plus, with the addition of x-locs in velious, waiting on the nexus only makes sense if you've got time to kill or are broke.
Bazaar definitely killed EC, but really the in-game listing serves essentially the same function as our EC forum board, and zone wide auctions were still a thing. Plus, some of the most fun I had in EQ was fooling around in the bazaar arena.
Luclin certainly isn't velious, but nothing about it really ruined classic EQ. I think the main reason a lot of people didn't like it was due to the time sinks it had, and the fact that raiding VT was about as much fun as a colonoscopy. They so really failed to take advantage of the faction story line. Should have done more with shadow haven, Katta, and Seru, like they did with velious faction.
Sadre Spinegnawer
03-23-2015, 02:07 PM
Yes, for most people in EQ, gear is like the size of the penis. Having better gear than someone is like having a bigger dick
Well, you sexist pig, some of us compare the awesomeness of our gear to vagina size. Not everything is about your precious penis, you patriarchal fuck.
I got so many loots, my vagina is the size of Texas. Meanwhile, I'm looking at you and thinking Delaware, at best.
Yes, for most people in EQ, gear is like the size of the penis. Having better gear than someone is like having a bigger dick, it makes them feel better about themselves at the expense of someone else, that's why it's wrong.
With defiant gear, every penis is the same size, so no more comparing and thinking they're better than other people. It basically eliminates the hardcore vs casual line of thinking and will foster friendly relationships across the server as a whole.
You are well on the way to a walk-off Troll of the Year award. This has got to be an all-time top five post for these boards. /salute
myriverse
03-23-2015, 02:44 PM
Well, you sexist pig, some of us compare the awesomeness of our gear to vagina size. Not everything is about your precious penis, you patriarchal fuck.
I got so many loots, my vagina is the size of Texas. Meanwhile, I'm looking at you and thinking Delaware, at best.
Um... should work in the opposite direction for you penily lacking folk. No one wants one of those the size of Texas.
Or go with breast/butt size.
curtischoy
03-23-2015, 02:45 PM
I think Blitzers is Bill O'Reilly irl.
Blitzers
03-23-2015, 03:02 PM
I think Blitzers is Bill O'Reilly irl.
O'Reilly is a socialist progressive schmuck. His love affair with consistently trying to make nice with the leftists makes me want to puke, not to mention all the self congratulating and padding himself on the back for everything he's ever done. FOX is filled with play nice assholes who want another Bush or Clinton slow walk to socialism. As for me I want the federal government abolished all power given back to the states. Then we'll see who's actually running things the right way. No more subsidies from big daddy fed. Truth happens @ the BLAZE!
Blitzers
03-23-2015, 03:22 PM
Yes, for most people in EQ, gear is like the size of the penis. Having better gear than someone is like having a bigger dick, it makes them feel better about themselves at the "expense of someone else," that's why it's wrong.
How does me getting raid gear cause you any expense at all. Are u providing me the raid force? Are u providing me the leisure time I have to play? Are u paying for my internet? Fucking stupid assholes hear a saying and just repeat it like a fucking drone. My raid gear has caused you 0.0 negative effect. In fact my raiding gear has been a fucking blessing to you. I have given tons of gear away because of upgrading. I rarely if ever sell shit in EC most of my stuff either goes to an alt, friends, or noobs to help them out. I'm a fucking asshole I don't even expect a thank you. There's tons of other raiders out there that do the same thing. Your small penis complex tells us a lot about your personal life. In our spare time you can find all the raiding guilds sitting at Orc 1 & 2 in EC inspecting noobs then making fun of their gear or lack of it, it's a real turn on in our circle jerks. Lol
curtischoy
03-23-2015, 03:27 PM
Move this crap to RnF.
Pokesan
03-23-2015, 03:27 PM
This thread is worse than cancer.
Move this crap to RnF.
fadetree
03-23-2015, 03:28 PM
No way, this is freakin hilarious. Sadre and Erydan be tearing it up.
Whirled
03-23-2015, 03:51 PM
in b4 RnF
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=28BSJ5LGeW4
loramin
03-23-2015, 03:52 PM
I mostly agree with the OP: Rogean made the server, Rogean wants it classic, so it's going to stay classic. End of story. All the bad penis analogies in the world won't change that.
(BTW, am I the only one thinking that the penis size guy's posts revealed more about that guy's .... um ... insecurities than about whatever it was he was trying to say?)
However, I do have one point of disagreement. To everyone who's been saying "why come here if you don't like classic?", please. There is sooooo much about this server that is good that has nothing to do with it being classic:
it has amazing staff
it's 100% free
it doesn't allow boxing
it doesn't have any form of "pay to play" (either SOE's or RMT)
it doesn't have any of the crazy new instanced EQ nonsense
Just because someone comes here looking for all that (which NO other server in the world has I should note) doesn't mean they don't want to play Luclin or PoP. Like I said that won't change Rogean's mind, so P99 is staying classic, but you can't fault people for wanting everything that's great about this server, just with a few more expansions.
perditionparty
03-23-2015, 04:53 PM
(BTW, am I the only one thinking that the penis size guy's posts revealed more about that guy's .... um ... insecurities than about whatever it was he was trying to say?)
I took it as a joke. If this person was being serious about the penis size to gear ratio, it only reveals what a giant dummy the poster is.
Guybrush
03-23-2015, 04:55 PM
It's pretty surprising to me how many people who I assume have been using the internet for several years STILL can't read sarcasm
Cecily
03-23-2015, 04:59 PM
So we're all agreed that this server needs defiant gear then?
loramin
03-23-2015, 05:15 PM
It's pretty surprising to me how many people who I assume have been using the internet for several years STILL can't read sarcasm
At some point making ironic statements that are contrary to your actual beliefs stops being "sarcasm" and just becomes trolling. But whether you think Erdyan was being "sarcastic" (for six pages of posts), an idiot, or just a troll (my money's on that one) I stand by my statement.
So we're all agreed that this server needs defiant gear then?
Completely.
Guybrush
03-23-2015, 05:17 PM
Please don't start semantic arguments with me, I won't be able to resist!
Sadre Spinegnawer
03-23-2015, 05:28 PM
How does me getting raid gear cause you any expense at all. Are u providing me the raid force? Are u providing me the leisure time I have to play? Are u paying for my internet? Fucking stupid assholes hear a saying and just repeat it like a fucking drone. My raid gear has caused you 0.0 negative effect. In fact my raiding gear has been a fucking blessing to you. I have given tons of gear away because of upgrading. I rarely if ever sell shit in EC most of my stuff either goes to an alt, friends, or noobs to help them out. I'm a fucking asshole I don't even expect a thank you. There's tons of other raiders out there that do the same thing. Your small penis complex tells us a lot about your personal life. In our spare time you can find all the raiding guilds sitting at Orc 1 & 2 in EC inspecting noobs then making fun of their gear or lack of it, it's a real turn on in our circle jerks. Lol
The big mistake some people make is mistaking forumquest for the game. Lots of crazy internet BS and attitude happens on forumquest (it's classic!) by people who, when you meet them in game, are very nice people. I always assume forums are what they are, always have been full of all kinds of attitude, but how someone actually plays the game is usually -- not all the time -- a very diff story.
btw, if you substitute in the word "gay sex" for "raid gear" in Blitzer's post, you get what he is really worked up about. You go girlfriend, you go.
Ezalor
03-23-2015, 05:47 PM
btw, if you substitute in the word "gay sex" for "raid gear" in Blitzer's post, you get what he is really worked up about. You go girlfriend, you go.
Nisse
03-23-2015, 07:26 PM
! This is the most incomprehensible yet somehow strangely effective 'put-down' I've ever read. I'm not the same person I was before I read it.
I like the cut of your jib.
Nisse
03-23-2015, 07:27 PM
At some point making ironic statements that are contrary to your actual beliefs stops being "sarcasm" and just becomes trolling. But whether you think Erdyan was being "sarcastic" (for six pages of posts), an idiot, or just a troll (my money's on that one) I stand by my statement.
Completely.
Poe's Law. It is an observation that it's difficult, if not impossible, to distinguish between parodies of fundamentalism or other extreme views and their genuine proponents, since they both seem equally insane
rotenvok
03-23-2015, 07:29 PM
We need defiant gear and mooncats as playable race pls
Erydan Ouragan
03-23-2015, 08:56 PM
So we're all agreed that this server needs defiant gear then?
Of course.
Now watch them froth at the mouth for proposing that mobs drop anything better than rusty short swords. :rolleyes:
Erydan Ouragan
03-23-2015, 09:06 PM
How does me getting raid gear cause you any expense at all. Are u providing me the raid force? Are u providing me the leisure time I have to play? Are u paying for my internet? Fucking stupid assholes hear a saying and just repeat it like a fucking drone. My raid gear has caused you 0.0 negative effect. In fact my raiding gear has been a fucking blessing to you. I have given tons of gear away because of upgrading. I rarely if ever sell shit in EC most of my stuff either goes to an alt, friends, or noobs to help them out. I'm a fucking asshole I don't even expect a thank you. There's tons of other raiders out there that do the same thing. Your small penis complex tells us a lot about your personal life. In our spare time you can find all the raiding guilds sitting at Orc 1 & 2 in EC inspecting noobs then making fun of their gear or lack of it, it's a real turn on in our circle jerks. Lol
Incorrect. It made you feel better about yourself at my expense. The only way you can say that your gear is good is by comparing it to gear that is less good.
With defiant gear, there is no more good or bad gear, it's just "the gear". This is why it's important that we have it on p99.
phacemeltar
03-23-2015, 10:51 PM
add defiant gear pls sirken
iruinedyourday
03-24-2015, 01:21 AM
what this server needs is custom content duh.. zone of innoruks and shit..
also EZserver nights would be cool, or free levelups.
Blitzers
03-24-2015, 07:16 AM
Incorrect. It made you feel better about yourself at my expense. The only way you can say that your gear is good is by comparing it to gear that is less good.
With defiant gear, there is no more good or bad gear, it's just "the gear". This is why it's important that we have it on p99.
You sir are an idiot and I'm amazed you survived birth
perditionparty
03-24-2015, 11:01 AM
Incorrect. It made you feel better about yourself at my expense. The only way you can say that your gear is good is by comparing it to gear that is less good.
With defiant gear, there is no more good or bad gear, it's just "the gear". This is why it's important that we have it on p99.
still can't tell what people pass as bad trolling attempts on this board.....:confused:
captnamazing
03-24-2015, 01:06 PM
voted 1 star thread
OP can't into forums
Move to RNF
Rararboker
03-24-2015, 01:35 PM
voted 1 star thread
OP can't into forums
Move to RNF
Thread is still 4 star overall, gtfo
fadetree
03-24-2015, 02:16 PM
Thread is still 4 star overall, gtfo
fo' realz. P.S. My vagina is HUGE
Merekai
03-24-2015, 06:37 PM
This server really needs for you to stop telling us what the fuck you think we need. People spend time and effort acquiring the gear that they have, and we sure as fuck aren't going to stand by and see you kill a shitty_dervish_03 and have it drop something better than a raid mob. You want defiant gear? Go back to live. Bitch.
Chev
captnamazing
03-24-2015, 06:38 PM
Thread is still 4 star overall, gtfo
down to three star overall. the truth is out there. soon it will be moved to RNF
ronasch
03-24-2015, 07:46 PM
This server really needs for you to stop telling us what the fuck you think we need. People spend time and effort acquiring the gear that they have, and we sure as fuck aren't going to stand by and see you kill a shitty_dervish_03 and have it drop something better than a raid mob. You want defiant gear? Go back to live. Bitch.
Chev
^^^^^^^^ I like that^^^^^^^^
rgostic
03-24-2015, 07:58 PM
still can't tell what people pass as bad trolling attempts on this board.....:confused:
He isn't trolling. Making yourself out to be humiliatingly pathetic is never trolling. Not even bad trolling. It's just pathetic.
evan1612
03-24-2015, 08:00 PM
Thread is still 4 star overall, gtfo
this is a 3 star thread as it should be
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