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yualin001
03-27-2015, 03:06 PM
Just a warning to anybody with not many friends on p99 dont get anybody to transfer items for you , I had 4 bags stolen from me earlier and was told I can either hope the player changes his mind and gives them back no action taken against the scumbag or I can have him banned and suck up losing everything I own
Ella`Ella
03-27-2015, 03:07 PM
There's only one thing to do in this situation...
Name and shame.
Daldaen
03-27-2015, 03:11 PM
I've always wondered. Would GMs reimburse Puppet Strings if, when selling an OT hammer, someone runs off with them?
Before trading them they made an agreement to use just a few charges, get a hammer, then give the seller some plat + their strings. Is this understood agreement enough for GMs to reimburse. Inquiring minds want to know.
PS that sucks. Only use big name guilds and high levels in said guilds to transfer your stuff.
khanable
03-27-2015, 03:11 PM
Name and shame.
Ella`Ella
03-27-2015, 03:11 PM
I've always wondered. Would GMs reimburse Puppet Strings if, when selling an OT hammer, someone runs off with them?
Yes, they do. And the scum bag eats a ban.
Wrench
03-27-2015, 03:13 PM
PS that sucks. Only use big name guilds and high levels in said guilds to transfer your stuff.
+ screenshot chat and trade window
ps way to make everything but the ps in your reply about yourself daldaen
Yes, they do. And the scum bag eats a ban.
sounds like according to the op you wouldnt get back the strings anymore
wonder if thats a policy change based on.... someone
yualin001
03-27-2015, 03:15 PM
Its getting hard to get big named guilds and high lvls to do transfers because everybody I ask is scared because of the RMT bans , The guys name was Alife but I messed up and trusted a low lvl so guess is really my fault , they need to come up with a safe way to transfer , the its classic doesnt hold up in regards to transfers since in classic you could have easily logged on a second char to transfer for yourself
Ella`Ella
03-27-2015, 03:16 PM
in classic you could have easily logged on a second char to transfer for yourself
You could have, if your mom was letting you pay for 2 account subscriptions a month.
On a serious note, you can always ask Cucumbers and Argh for item transfers. They are on all day in East Commonlands Tunnel auctioning their Free-Item transfer service. They keep all their inventory slots empty so not having enough space for someone is never a concern.
they need to come up with a safe way to transfer , the its classic doesnt hold up in regards to transfers since in classic you could have easily logged on a second char to transfer for yourself
and pay an extra $10 a month for the second account and maintain a second PC and a second phone line.
I suppose one could have been balling out of control with a networked DSL/Cable modem and forgone the second phone line.
yualin001
03-27-2015, 03:18 PM
screenshot doesnt help since GM told me I can either hope guy changes his mind and gives stuff back , yeah that will happen , or they can ban him and never get it back , I have screenshots , I have logs gms showed where he traded and never gave to my other character which is no different than puppet string for the MQ , I paid him 150plat to transfer for me , he said f it and kept my stuff so how is that different than a mq and being scammed?
Wrench
03-27-2015, 03:19 PM
screenshot doesnt help since GM told me I can either hope guy changes his mind and gives stuff back , yeah that will happen , or they can ban him and never get it back , I have screenshots , I have logs gms showed where he traded and never gave to my other character which is no different than puppet string for the MQ , I paid him 150plat to transfer for me , he said f it and kept my stuff so how is that different than a mq and being scammed?
if he was in a guild and you had screenshot he might get the option of getting booted or giving back if you provided officers screenshot
if he wasnt in a guild its great rnf and psa
Ella`Ella
03-27-2015, 03:22 PM
screenshot doesnt help since GM told me I can either hope guy changes his mind and gives stuff back , yeah that will happen , or they can ban him and never get it back , I have screenshots , I have logs gms showed where he traded and never gave to my other character which is no different than puppet string for the MQ , I paid him 150plat to transfer for me , he said f it and kept my stuff so how is that different than a mq and being scammed?
Ehh, buying an OT hammer is an agreed upon transaction and they've always been protected and enforced on the server. Jacking someones strings then becomes a 'scam'. You handing all your items to some random isn't really a transaction. They can ban the dude for unjust enrichment (you proud, Ele?) but there is no assurance you'll get anything back. You weren't scammed; you just used poor judgement.
loramin
03-27-2015, 03:23 PM
screenshot doesnt help since GM told me I can either hope guy changes his mind and gives stuff back , yeah that will happen , or they can ban him and never get it back , I have screenshots , I have logs gms showed where he traded and never gave to my other character which is no different than puppet string for the MQ , I paid him 150plat to transfer for me , he said f it and kept my stuff so how is that different than a mq and being scammed?
It's no different, but what sounds different is the GM's response. I'm surprised that they'd be so unsympathetic, but I'm naturally biased towards the GMs so I wonder if there's more to your story then is being repeated here.
Either way, posting screenshots can't hurt; at the very least they'll convince everyone who reads the forums to believe you really were scammed, and to act appropriately towards Alife when they seem in-game. If enough people harass him and he finds he can't get a group anymore perhaps he'll consider returning the items he stole (if that really is what happened).
loramin
03-27-2015, 03:24 PM
Ehh, buying an OT hammer is an agreed upon transaction and they've always been protected and enforced on the server. Jacking someones strings then becomes a 'scam'. You handing all your items to some random isn't really a transaction. They can ban the dude for unjust enrichment (you proud, Ele?) but there is no assurance you'll get anything back. You weren't scammed; you just used poor judgement.
How is handing someone your strings with the understanding they'll give them back any different from handing them any other item with the understanding you'll give them back? Either way it's clear the recipient is supposed to return the items, and if they don't it's a scam.
Maybe you could argue that normal item transfers aren't "transactions" since no plat is involved. I wouldn't agree with that, but even if I did OP actually offered to pay the scammer so it definitely was a transaction in this case.
Ehh, buying an OT hammer is an agreed upon transaction and they've always been protected and enforced on the server. Jacking someones strings then becomes a 'scam'. You handing all your items to some random isn't really a transaction. They can ban the dude for unjust enrichment (you proud, Ele?) but there is no assurance you'll get anything back. You weren't scammed; you just used poor judgement.
According to OP, this was a transaction. He paid the transfer guy 150p for his time/services with the expectation of receiving his items back.
If OP's choice is to 1) hope thief returns his items or 2) ask that thief be banned including his items, then strings shouldn't get special consideration from CSR, when some clown decides to keep them. String clicks should be priced to balance the risk of losing them.
Ella`Ella
03-27-2015, 03:39 PM
String clicks should be priced to balance the risk of losing them.
If that were the case, people would require a 225k refundable deposit + x cost of hammer. Even then, because of the hassle, fewer people would do hammers and eventually that service would just die out.
If that were the case, people would require a 225k refundable deposit + x cost of hammer. Even then, because of the hassle, fewer people would do hammers and eventually that service would just die out.
I don't have a problem with that. :D
jpetrick
03-27-2015, 03:57 PM
On a serious note, you can always ask Cucumbers and Argh for item transfers. They are on all day in East Commonlands Tunnel auctioning their Free-Item transfer service. They keep all their inventory slots empty so not having enough space for someone is never a concern.
Argh and Cucs are too busy in class C to be EC spin buddies with me anymore. :(
If you catch me in the tunnel I am happy to help as well. I like to minimize my game when I am sitting in there so don't freak out if you come back hailing me and I don't respond for a minute or two though.
Thulack
03-27-2015, 03:59 PM
You could have, if your mom was letting you pay for 2 account subscriptions a month.
On a serious note, you can always ask Cucumbers and Argh for item transfers. They are on all day in East Commonlands Tunnel auctioning their Free-Item transfer service. They keep all their inventory slots empty so not having enough space for someone is never a concern.
I just would use my moms account to xfer stuff :D
If you lost all or most of your stuff, I can hook you up with the 'I just got scammed out of all of my stuff and all I've got left is this stupid t-shirt' starter pack.
Getting scammed in EC is about as classic as it gets. I think twelve year old me shed a tear when some bozo traded me a rusty halberd instead of a wurmslayer.
PM me your bozo's name and find me in the tunnel.
loramin
03-27-2015, 04:27 PM
If you lost all or most of your stuff, I can hook you up with the 'I just got scammed out of all of my stuff and all I've got left is this stupid t-shirt' starter pack.
Very generous of you /salute
PM me your bozo's name
The guys name was Alife
Veleria
03-27-2015, 06:37 PM
In classic I had a second account on the same computer. Why is that considered odd? Perhaps not as common as it would be today but it only took a second account and alt-tab
In classic I had a second account on the same computer. Why is that considered odd? Perhaps not as common as it would be today but it only took a second account and alt-tab
Did you play with WinEQ? Otherwise, you could not alt+tab.
This was actually a big deal that you could not alt+tab or play windowed during classic (without violating the EULA by using third party programs).
Edit: Patch introducing windowed mode. http://www.tski.co.jp/baldio/patch/20030109.html January 9, 2003
EQ in a Window:
EverQuest can now be run in a window. To place EverQuest in a window, simply press Alt-Enter. You can also switch out of EverQuest to another program by using the familiar Alt-Tab. It is important that you do not do this until you are in-game, do not do this during the login process.
It is important to note a few things. Running the game in a window may reduce game performance a bit. And, as always, the more programs you have running at the same time the more resources they use.
At this time, due to some changes that need to be made on the front end, it is not possible to run two instances of EverQuest. We will be working to make the necessary changes over the next few weeks.
They later fixed it in April 2003 to allow windowed mode all the time, not just once in game.
mr_jon3s
03-27-2015, 07:27 PM
Always do a transfer with someone that has something to lose. People with good gear or epics aren't gonna jack your stuff because you can just get them banned and eat the loss. Or join a guild and make friends. I usually have a guildie or friend do a transfer for me.
Veleria
03-31-2015, 02:12 PM
I did not run Win EQ. I wasn't aware of the program. I never had an issue using Alt-tab. Maybe some versions of windows allowed it. It's been to long to remember what I was running but it was a premade computer bought at a box store.
maskedmelon
03-31-2015, 02:40 PM
I did not run Win EQ. I wasn't aware of the program. I never had an issue using Alt-tab. Maybe some versions of windows allowed it. It's been to long to remember what I was running but it was a premade computer bought at a box store.
Been too long for me to remember as well, but I'd thought that without using eqw, you would receive an error when trying to launch a second instance of the application, something like " The program you are trying to open is already in use!"
That may not be the case though. But if it is, then ele has unearthed a damning piece of evidence against dual boxing, akin to the final nail in a coffin ^^
loramin
03-31-2015, 03:09 PM
I did not run Win EQ. I wasn't aware of the program. I never had an issue using Alt-tab. Maybe some versions of windows allowed it. It's been to long to remember what I was running but it was a premade computer bought at a box store.
Are you sure that was in the classic era? If you played from 2003 onward it would make perfect sense that you could play in windowed mode without a separate program ... but that wasn't classic.
I did not run Win EQ. I wasn't aware of the program. I never had an issue using Alt-tab. Maybe some versions of windows allowed it. It's been to long to remember what I was running but it was a premade computer bought at a box store.
I'm not sure how you could Alt+Tab while running EQ from 1999-2001 and come back into it successfully without using EQwindows.
That is the whole reason people printed binders full of maps and item stat lists or used a second box to look stuff up while playing, because you couldn't access any other programs.
2002 EQ Druids thread talking about multi-monitor set ups not working without EQWindows, not being able to ALT+TAB. http://thedruidsgrove.org/archive/eq/t-1876.html
sulpher01
03-31-2015, 03:27 PM
As with everything on this server... depends on what GM you get. Try petitioning again. :eek:
maskedmelon
03-31-2015, 03:28 PM
That is the whole reason people printed binders full of maps and item stat lists or used a second box to look stuff up while playing, because you couldn't access any other programs.
That and to avoid having to reload the web pages countless times. The internet wasn't nearly as agile or tangible as it is now ^^ People used it to find things and bring them back with them. Now people just use it to look at things, confident that they will be where they found/left them the next time they come looking ^^
Veleria
03-31-2015, 04:00 PM
I do recall I had a second install of EQ in a separate folder that I used for my second account. That allowed the second instance to run without mixing files with the first.
This was certainly during the Kunark Era.
Rararboker
03-31-2015, 04:22 PM
They didn't help you??
That is weird. I've seen people get scammed before and the GM's made them give it back. But like people said, ask people in raid guilds to help. Class C guilds are probably your best bet since any gear you'd have is useless to them.
yualin001
03-31-2015, 04:55 PM
nope last message I got from gm was they talked to the guy and he didnt want to give the stuff back so they banned him
Eunomia
03-31-2015, 04:57 PM
You want to discuss this in public?
Do I have your permission to release all the facts?
yualin001
03-31-2015, 04:58 PM
go for it
You want to discuss this in public?
Do I have your permission to release all the facts?
http://i.imgur.com/cq7yurn.gif
Eunomia
03-31-2015, 05:04 PM
You handed items worth over 10K to a level 8 character in a guild that was created in the last couple months.
The person sold items to innocent buyers. He spent the plat.
The person who committed fraud had been punished.
You learned an expensive lesson.
Thulack
03-31-2015, 05:39 PM
You handed items worth over 10K to a level 8 character in a guild that was created in the last couple months.
The person sold items to innocent buyers. He spent the plat.
The person who committed fraud had been punished.
You learned an expensive lesson.
And thats the way it goes. ^^This is the means they go by when the items that were taken are resold before GM's can get to them. Person who robbed you is probably banned now but you wont get refunded the items.
yualin001
03-31-2015, 06:56 PM
whats sucks is I talked to a guide while person was still logged out and the confirmed what happened and told me to put in petition , I put in petition in immediatly and was only the guy never logged in to trade the items off or sell them. I sat online until petition got response and was told to wait until he logged back on and ask him to give items back.so the GM staff had knowledge of what happened and confirmed it before he got rid of the items so it could have been fixed before he got rid of them so take that however you want it , sure I messed up and trusted another player who wasnt well known in an established guild but there has to be a better way to handle transfers
Dacien
03-31-2015, 07:13 PM
I'm just curious, what possessed you to trust such a risky character?
yualin001
03-31-2015, 07:27 PM
fbss , IFS and hooded black cloak were the main ones , rest was basic twink stuff like hp rings nothing noteable
yualin001
03-31-2015, 07:28 PM
bah totally misread your question , nobody I knew was on and all the high lvls I asked refused to do xfers so took a risk :(
xarzzardorn
03-31-2015, 07:34 PM
You handed items worth over 10K to a level 8 character in a guild that was created in the last couple months.
The person sold items to innocent buyers. He spent the plat.
The person who committed fraud had been punished.
You learned an expensive lesson.
Did that spent plat go up in smoke towards hookers and blow? You've already established that he lost "over 10k" but both players being punished is a win-win I guess. Maybe in Ele's mmo dystopia he could sue the deceased's estate for damages
kildone
03-31-2015, 08:33 PM
I'm not sure how you could Alt+Tab while running EQ from 1999-2001 and come back into it successfully without using EQwindows.
That is the whole reason people printed binders full of maps and item stat lists or used a second box to look stuff up while playing, because you couldn't access any other programs.
2002 EQ Druids thread talking about multi-monitor set ups not working without EQWindows, not being able to ALT+TAB. http://thedruidsgrove.org/archive/eq/t-1876.html
Yes I remember taking special interest in this being a programmer at the time. Microsoft threatened to pull the windows compatible 'logo' because eq took control of the pc at the hardware level and refused special key combos return control to windows.
They said they did this to avoid hacks but MS said tough. It was all over the forums when they finally caved. I don't remember the exact date but as always you gots proof.
That guy is just misremembering either the timeline or that he used a third party tool.
kildone
03-31-2015, 08:35 PM
bah totally misread your question , nobody I knew was on and all the high lvls I asked refused to do xfers so took a risk :(
I once dropped a bag of stuff on the ground and it was there when I got back. Another time I tried it and it wasn't. Was only 150 plat worth of stuff.
Seems silly to transfer 10k without finding someone with a reputable guild tag.
Pokesan
03-31-2015, 08:37 PM
I've drop transferred my fungi a few times.
Swish
03-31-2015, 08:51 PM
Someone I'd never seen in the guild turned up today and wanted items transferred... definitely not, not after the shit some people have gone through handling "hot" items :/
Thulack
03-31-2015, 11:57 PM
Someone I'd never seen in the guild turned up today and wanted items transferred... definitely not, not after the shit some people have gone through handling "hot" items :/
I dont see what the big stigma is. If you play with logs on and you are not doing anything wrong the worst your going to end up is a few days playing a alt or god forbid actually have to go outside. Proof with logs/dates/Times is all that they need to clear you it just might take some time which everyone should be thankful for. If they didnt care RMT would be worse then it is still.
PDX0621
04-01-2015, 11:20 AM
You handed items worth over 10K to a level 8 character in a guild that was created in the last couple months.
The person sold items to innocent buyers. He spent the plat.
The person who committed fraud had been punished.
You learned an expensive lesson.
Holy sh*t, I wonder if it was the level 8 who PM'd me the other day asking about getting PL'd and name dropped you as his *friend*.
PDX0621
04-01-2015, 11:49 AM
It really sucks, with the whole RMT debacle, that item transfers have become increasingly hard to come by. I myself have struggled lately finding A.) People willing to help, and B.) People I trust. Thankfully my DAP guildies have been stand up individuals and have been able to lend a hand.
Just tossing it out there, not just as a plug for myself, but I do offer item transferring service. If I'm in the same zone as you or if you're in the same zone as a druid port, I generally don't charge. If you want me to haul your bags of random gear across the globe to deliver to your alt in some far away place, yeah, there'll be a "convenience" fee added. I've been entrusted on a few occasions to deliver 15-30k + worth of items, and have never failed to deliver. I assure you I'm more nervous to give your items to you than you are to receive them. Anywho, if you need a hand with transfers, please look up Bhear in game. If I can, I'll give you a hand. You may have to agree to my non RMT related disclosure speech, but it certainly beats the alternative.
sulpher01
04-01-2015, 12:25 PM
Did that spent plat go up in smoke towards hookers and blow?
lol that was my thought... poof its spent it must be gone!
Eunomia
04-01-2015, 12:39 PM
lol that was my thought... poof its spent it must be gone!
You know when you get a really good deal in EC? Sometimes...it might be someone trying to unload something really fast and not concerned about getting the most plat.
You know when someone buys your stuff for a ridiculously high price and you're shocked because you only listed it high so you could barter for the real price you wanted?
That is what people do with plat they didn't earn. It poofs into the community.
I'd have to trust this guy to do the right thing by repaying the petitioner to the petitioner's satisfaction, releasing the account to do so. (I don't have the ability to remove items off of the account, and GMs don't do it very often, if ever) I made a judgement call that was not going to be possible in this case. I have had success many times in resolving similar situations. It was not going to be possible in this case. I truly am sorry I couldn't, and I did express that to the petitioner.
name dropped you as his *friend*.
I am everyone's friend.
maskedmelon
04-01-2015, 12:41 PM
lol that was my thought... poof its spent it must be gone!
This is a good point. If it can be proven via logs (or otherwise corroborated as done by Eunomia here) that the bugger did indeed thieve something, stuff on that account with a roughly equivalent fmv ought to be due the victim as restitution prior to banning the offending account. Now if they were plvl'd, not much can be done about that :/ Each time you implement something like this, you create potential loopholes for RMT exploitation.
maskedmelon
04-01-2015, 12:45 PM
You know when you get a really good deal in EC? Sometimes...it might be someone trying to unload something really fast and not concerned about getting the most plat.
You know when someone buys your stuff for a ridiculously high price and you're shocked because you only listed it high so you could barter for the real price you wanted?
That is what people do with plat they didn't earn. It poofs into the community.
I'd have to trust this guy to do the right thing by repaying the petitioner to the petitioner's satisfaction, releasing the account to do so. (I don't have the ability to remove items off of the account, and GMs don't do it very often, if ever) I made a judgement call that was not going to be possible in this case. I have had success many times in resolving similar situations. It was not going to be possible in this case. I truly am sorry I couldn't, and I did express that to the petitioner.
I am everyone's friend.
Ohhhh that makes sense. If GM's can't move items from offending accounts (which could create all kinds of other potential problems if possible) then there is no solution but to ban the fellow :/ and suck it up and resolve to never let it happen to you again :)
tristantio
04-01-2015, 12:46 PM
I think the problem is actually that MQ's/puppet strings can be petitioned at all if they go awry.
Isn't there a stickied post in EC forum (or used to be) saying item transfers/trading items is at your own risk?
I do not agree there should be any risk associated with transferring for strangers though (heck, even high level "reputable" people associated with RMT could therefore stain your account if you did a transfer?)
Why is a transfer any different than having unknowingly bought the item off them for plat as far as stains on account are concerned?
The real issue is that we're still waiting on my bug report regarding tradeskill containers and storing items (in classic you could store an item in a trade container like a town forge until server reset - here when you close the container the item returns to your cursor).
Item transferring would be simple if we could find obscure forges/etc. to drop the item in and get it out with a different toon (barring a full server crash).
Ezalor
04-01-2015, 01:12 PM
you got jipped, suck it up and move on
it was your own stupidity and impatience that lead you to take the risk of transferring with a level 8 stranger.
the threat of getting banned is actually a really good incentive not to steal someone's shit in a transfer. in this case, you stupidly trusted a low-level newbie that would happily eat a ban on a level 8 character for 10k in gear. next time, don't be an idiot and find a high level. i'm not gonna eat a ban on my level 60 over 10k, and i guarantee no one else would either.
Ebener
04-01-2015, 01:47 PM
Most <Dial A Port> members are willing to do item transfers for a fee. Find a member whose services you've used before and are willing to trust. Remember to "/w dial all" for all your porting/evac/transferring needs.
you got jipped, suck it up and move on
it was your own stupidity and impatience that lead you to take the risk of transferring with a level 8 stranger.
the threat of getting banned is actually a really good incentive not to steal someone's shit in a transfer. in this case, you stupidly trusted a low-level newbie that would happily eat a ban on a level 8 character for 10k in gear. next time, don't be an idiot and find a high level. i'm not gonna eat a ban on my level 60 over 10k, and i guarantee no one else would either.
Guildtag means a lot. I've done transfers for strangers on my L5 tunnel rat, I'm certain the reason these people decided to risk using me is because they saw him in the tunnel often and he wears my main's guildtag (Bregan D'Aerth). Long-time members of well known raid guilds just aren't gonna rip you off like that, they have far too much to lose and even the ones that are shady enough to rip you off won't because they know they'll get hurt worse. If you don't have personal connections to do a transfer safely, show a little patience and take the time to learn the names of some long-time traders who wear their guildtags openly. It won't get your transfer done in the next 5 minutes, but it sure beats petitioning some scumsucker after you get burned only to learn that you're shit-outa-luck.
mr_jon3s
04-01-2015, 03:43 PM
The real issue is that we're still waiting on my bug report regarding tradeskill containers and storing items (in classic you could store an item in a trade container like a town forge until server reset - here when you close the container the item returns to your cursor).
Item transferring would be simple if we could find obscure forges/etc. to drop the item in and get it out with a different toon (barring a full server crash).
I remember doing this as a noob. I would check all the Tradeskill containers after finding a brick of ore and selling it to merchant.
webrunner5
04-02-2015, 10:19 AM
you got jipped, suck it up and move on
it was your own stupidity and impatience that lead you to take the risk of transferring with a level 8 stranger.
the threat of getting banned is actually a really good incentive not to steal someone's shit in a transfer. in this case, you stupidly trusted a low-level newbie that would happily eat a ban on a level 8 character for 10k in gear. next time, don't be an idiot and find a high level. i'm not gonna eat a ban on my level 60 over 10k, and i guarantee no one else would either.
Really!! Every guild on here has had some Jackass that had permission to the guild bank rip it off at some point in time even if he was a level 60.
X amount of people in the world are shitbags and unfortunately a lot of them seem to play on here. :o
PDX0621
04-02-2015, 11:36 AM
The real issue is that we're still waiting on my bug report regarding tradeskill containers and storing items (in classic you could store an item in a trade container like a town forge until server reset - here when you close the container the item returns to your cursor).
Item transferring would be simple if we could find obscure forges/etc. to drop the item in and get it out with a different toon (barring a full server crash).
Haha I can imagine it now. A whole army of level 1's running amok throughout every starting city checking tradeskill containers. Hell, I'd make an entire guild to do it, call it "Dumpster Divers". No container would be safe!
maskedmelon
04-02-2015, 11:44 AM
Not to mention it would create an all new veil of obfuscation for RMT.
RMT Vendor: Your purchase will be deposited in the Freeport Peoples Spit outback The Wayfer's Roost at 11:30pm local Shanghai time!
Atmas
04-02-2015, 12:16 PM
If you really don't have any friends, or guildes, and none of the reputable traders are around. Do yourself a huge favor and at least ask a high level in a well known guild, someone with something invested in the character doing the transfer.
Victorio
04-02-2015, 01:10 PM
If you really don't have any friends, or guildes, and none of the reputable traders are around. Do yourself a huge favor and at least ask a high level in a well known guild, someone with something invested in the character doing the transfer.
I think he's repeated enough times that the high levels he's asked have refused because they are afraid of RMT bans (they have a lot invested in their characters.)
loramin
04-02-2015, 02:45 PM
I think he's repeated enough times that the high levels he's asked have refused because they are afraid of RMT bans (they have a lot invested in their characters.)
This is the core problem. Previously RMT bans didn't catch people who did transfers (or at least no one complained about it). But in the most recent wave of bans the staff did decide to ban such people, and while that might be great for fighting RMT it has had the unfortunate side effect of chilling legitimate item transfers, invalidating the old P99 advice to "use a high level from a reputable guild". Evidently this has resulted in more opportunities for scammers, so it seems the staff traded (hopefully a lot) less RMT for (a bit) more scamming.
Personally I'm a "go to Freeport, find a random building, then do a drop transfer there" kind of guy myself. I've heard plenty of horror stories from others, but personally I've never had a problem.
khanable
04-03-2015, 12:29 PM
I'll still transfer for people. I just ask if it's RMT plat or items now. Everyone says no, of course, but I feel like I'm covering my own ass. :p
I'll take a 3 week suspension (and wait while the GM's sort out my innocence) from one out of the thirty transfers that were dirty.
But that is why I'm a server hero.
Thulack
04-03-2015, 01:43 PM
I'll still transfer for people. I just ask if it's RMT plat or items now. Everyone says no, of course, but I feel like I'm covering my own ass. :p
I'll take a 3 week suspension (and wait while the GM's sort out my innocence) from one out of the thirty transfers that were dirty.
But that is why I'm a server hero.
Indeed Sir :P
I'm always free for transfers if you catch me on Bongs but i havent been playing that much lately.
myriverse
04-04-2015, 07:21 AM
Item transferring would be simple if we could find obscure forges/etc. to drop the item in and get it out with a different toon (barring a full server crash).
Pretty sure you can't leave items in forges/etc. on P99. When you close it, they go back to your bags.
Pretty sure you can't leave items in forges/etc. on P99. When you close it, they go back to your bags.
You can thank the RMTers for that
webrunner5
04-04-2015, 09:20 AM
Personally I'm a "go to Freeport, find a random building, then do a drop transfer there" kind of guy myself. I've heard plenty of horror stories from others, but personally I've never had a problem.
I have lost about 4 bags of stuff in 5 years on here. It sucked but I have dropped probably 600 bags or more no problem. I really only trust a few people on here anymore and I really don't want someone who is a friend banned because a GM thinks it is RMT. I will take the risk of dropping stuff yet.
This server is going to hell more and more every day. There is just more and more useless pieces of shit on here than ever. :mad:
Swish
04-04-2015, 09:42 AM
I have lost about 4 bags of stuff in 5 years on here. It sucked but I have dropped probably 600 bags or more no problem. I really only trust a few people on here anymore and I really don't want someone who is a friend banned because a GM thinks it is RMT. I will take the risk of dropping stuff yet.
This server is going to hell more and more every day. There is just more and more useless pieces of shit on here than ever. :mad:
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Thulack
04-05-2015, 02:06 PM
I asked someone to do a xfer for me and they said "no". I'm so sad :(
Clark
04-05-2015, 09:25 PM
There's only one thing to do in this situation...
Name and shame.
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