will you be playing the new live slow progression server?

[Oleris]

details here https://forums.station.sony.com/eq/index.php?threads/progression-server-poll-results-whats-next.219080/

[indiscriminate_hater]

refuse to vote. u know why

[Bazia]

MQ scripted 50 member Shadowknight raid mob KS box team

[Oleris]

refuse to vote. u know why

cause red?

[Ele]

Unclassic Freeport and common lands ewwww

[radditsu]

Bush knocked them down. Poor towers

[Lifebar]

MQ scripted 50 member Shadowknight raid mob KS box team

Basically this. Pre-kunark Fippy was a shitshow. i watched Inny die in less than one second as dozens of SK's Macroquest scripts fired off HTs the second he popped.

[Tankdan]

If it was free yes, but not paying $15/m for an even more unclassic version of classic.

[maestrom]

21 grumpy people.

[Swish]

refuse to vote. u know why

[HeallunRumblebelly]

It was you *****, tell the truth *****

[captnamazing]

no, p99 gave me my eq fix. i'm good now ty

[HeallunRumblebelly]

As corrupt as p99 is, it makes live look like some kind of ghetto. MQ / SEQ is everywhere on live and they don't give a fuuuuck.

[myriverse]

Only time enough for one game in my life.

[radditsu]

As corrupt as p99 is, it makes live look like some kind of ghetto. MQ / SEQ is everywhere on live and they don't give a fuuuuck.

*****s dont even have GMs anymore.

[Norathorr]

Not gonna play. I just simply dont see the point unless they completely overhaul the early expansions. You have mages and monks that are so OP compared to other classes it may as well be a different game. You have faster than classic exp gains (slower in the first few levels as no more than 2% per kill but it gets faster than p1999) which means you have a total clustered high end with everyone bickering and nowhere to hunt. Utterly useless unless they put some effort into it like the devs for this server has.

[Oleris]

2:1 against. Instead of a slow progression what if it was locked at PoP. Would you guys reconsider playing that server?

[radditsu]

Ykesha for dyes.

[Erydan Ouragan]

2:1 against. Instead of a slow progression what if it was locked at PoP. Would you guys reconsider playing that server?

I will play on it for sure. I just dread spending 6 fucking months in classic with 167 people in lower guk. I've heard the stories of how horrible the raiding scene was on Fippy, that doesn't affect me because i don't/won't raid. Probably.

A server locked at PoP is what i truly wanted. Then i got convinced by other people that locking it at OoW would be better, as it would give more content and epics 2.0.

If they go with 6 months between expansions, this means a year and a half before we see luclin, 2 years before PoP. Fuck.

Like i said, i'm gonna play on it for sure, i'm just gonna bitch and moan like a spoiled kid until we finally get to luclin.

[Vexr]

Erydan's opinion is invalid plz disregard

[Big_Japan]

the projecks

[LronTheServerLegend]

I will be playing on this server, but i will promote p99 on it, even though i have never played on the server. I respect the vision more than any other game...even if sirken has problems with me.

[Jauna]

New models
revamped freeport and commonlands, ro, oasis, the other ro
revamped nek forest
revamped classes
revamped spells, hybrids casting at level 1? yeano
no swarm kiting
no feel

I remember being a little kid with my gateway pc my dad bought for me in a gateway store, on my CRT monitor hearing the old midi music of freeport as I went to go turn in some belts.

I remember being a paladin and confused as to where to go when oasis of marr dried up for exp at or around level 20.

I got my nostalgia fix here years ago and if the new progression server will have all the new things like knights having warrior defenses, or rangers having a use outside of a deathtouch then no, just no.

[radditsu]

Yall dudes need jesus.

[Halem]

Will the new server have that double xp for recruit a friend accounts? Cause that is some bull.

[Mesnset]

Been casually following those forums but I come away with two distinct feelings every time I browse:

1. they have no idea what "classic" means or why people enjoy it

2. they are a group of whining in-your-face twits

[Oleris]

I'm still waiting to see if they are going to nerf anything to where it should be. If it's like the original progression servers I think I will run SK/shaman/monk 3 box. Might toss in druid instead of the monk for ports/ds extra heals. I know it sounds dirty that I will box, but I am guessing over 50% of the people that are going to play will be boxing.

[Oleris]

Also considering throwing in a bard in there instead if /melody works. Will add some CC, easy afk box and will allow shaman to get more mana/regen faster.

[Erydan Ouragan]

Also considering throwing in a bard in there instead if /melody works. Will add some CC, easy afk box and will allow shaman to get more mana/regen faster.

Even with /melody, you'd be better off with a chanter.

Bard mez only lasts 3 ticks, meaning you have to switch targets and reapply mez constantly. I can lock down 4 mobs at a time if no resists, but during that time, i'm not doing anything else. No melee, no haste, no slow or mana regen.

Chanters retain their effectiveness while CCing. While they mez, everyone in the group is still hasted, with clarity and the charmed pet is doing massive dps.

Sure bard songs are really good for groups, especially PoP and beyond, but when it comes to pure CC, nothing beats a chanter.

[Oleris]

I can't imagine how hard maintaining charm will be on chanter with a 3 box. Might just stick with the monk or bard. Monk would guarantee single pulls greater than the SK, won't need alot of gear. Bard would be nice for travel though. Hard choices.

[Oleris]

maybe mage instead for pet DPS. Summons etc. Might work better.

[Bazia]

PoP weapons dropping from hate trash mobs

[nilzark]

Swish, your SIG GIF is weird as fuk. And it does not involve an animal (i.e. feline (i.e. cat)). Therefore != classic (p99 forum quest).

[Erydan Ouragan]

maybe mage instead for pet DPS. Summons etc. Might work better.

Mages make an excellent box. A quick assist tank macro with pet attack on pull allows you to go back to your tank quickly to position the mob. Then you can go back to the mage and fire up a nuke. Really straightforward.

CotH is great for getting where you need to go. All you need to do is run the mage near the next zoneline and summon the rest.

I'm definitely going to play a bard. Plan to box a chanter/mage too. I'm gonna play with friends i've met on p99, don't know what they will play but we'll make it work.

[Ravager]

Unclassic Freeport and common lands ewwww

[Mirana]

I wont be, because they don't pay attention to RMT, they have a fility cash shop, and allow people to run with as many characters as they want at a time. I also dont have any faith that they will keep everquest going once they move on to something else. They have shut down so many games, I am not even sure why any one gives these people money.
I mean it is equivalent to going to honda, and buying a car, and then 2 years later they are like, sorry we fucked that car up, we wont support it any more, and wont sell you parts, or anything, your just stuck with it, good luck with all that. If honda did that, it would be shut down as a business in no time, but yet here this shit ass company, soe/daybreak games still is making money. I mean daybreak games........ You gotta be one stupid mo fo to make the name of your company that.

Except Everquest has been around for 15 years, the original prog servers are still running (i.e. not shut down), and most importantly, a honda cost 15-20k whereas EQ costs $15/month (nothing).

TLDR: your analogy fails on multiple levels

[Tiggles]

I wont be, because they don't pay attention to RMT, they have a fility cash shop, and allow people to run with as many characters as they want at a time. I also dont have any faith that they will keep everquest going once they move on to something else. They have shut down so many games, I am not even sure why any one gives these people money.
I mean it is equivalent to going to honda, and buying a car, and then 2 years later they are like, sorry we fucked that car up, we wont support it any more, and wont sell you parts, or anything, your just stuck with it, good luck with all that. If honda did that, it would be shut down as a business in no time, but yet here this shit ass company, soe/daybreak games still is making money. I mean daybreak games........ You gotta be one stupid mo fo to make the name of your company that.

You're fucking stupid

[Faited]

Where's the option for: 'HELL FUCKING NO!'?

[wormed]

So this progression server won't be classic exp? There will be current modifications? How different would it be from starting at level 1 on P99 compared to Live on this progression server?

[iruinedyourday]

EZ server is gonna be more classic than this one will ever be.

[Tankdan]

EZ server is gonna be more classic than this one will ever be.

That server is a dumpster ever since Hunter died, sadly. Was a fun place for a long time.

[Samatman]

So this progression server won't be classic exp? There will be current modifications? How different would it be from starting at level 1 on P99 compared to Live on this progression server?

Having played the last prog server briefly - the exp curves used then were harder than P99 because hell levels were averaged out. Level 1 to 2 took forever. There was also a bug that gave groups huge exp bonuses that I assume will be fixed this time around.

Also OOC regen was still in, so there was little incentive to group. The regen coupled with the loss of the original zones (freeport, commonlands, highpass, NRo, Oasis, SRo, lavastorm, Nektulos) just makes any prog server "they" do pale in comparison. I just don't understand how a company loses code version history. Didn't anyone make a copy on a flash drive?

[Oleris]

https://forums.station.sony.com/eq/i...etails.219588/

new info. Instanced content for levels 1-15ish to deal with the initial rush.

Vote option for classic, classic+kunark, or classic+kunark+velious on launch. If the last option wins it will be 18 months until Luclin launches.

Removed alot of new stuff like out of combat regen, redoing PoH, PoF and some other zones to as close as possible to classic.

Hint at quarm for a second server name. People saying it might be a seasonal server or perhaps a PoP locked server.

classes/races unlocked at their perspective expansions.

reduced xp.


No word if monks, mages and some other stuff will be scaled back to a classic experience.

[Pokesan]

https://forums.station.sony.com/eq/i...etails.219588/

new info. Instanced content for levels 1-15ish to deal with the initial rush.

Vote option for classic, classic+kunark, or classic+kunark+velious on launch. If the last option wins it will be 18 months until Luclin launches.

Removed alot of new stuff like out of combat regen, redoing PoH, PoF and some other zones to as close as possible to classic.

Hint at quarm for a second server name. People saying it might be a seasonal server or perhaps a PoP locked server.

classes/races unlocked at their perspective expansions.

reduced xp.


No word if monks, mages and some other stuff will be scaled back to a classic experience.

Your link doesn't work for me, but for the bold they said new hate map with old mobs.

[Oleris]

reddit link instead

http://www.reddit.com/r/everquest/comments/32q7f3/new_progression_server_faq_and_upcoming_poll/

[maerilith]

Having played the last prog server briefly - the exp curves used then were harder than P99 because hell levels were averaged out. Level 1 to 2 took forever. There was also a bug that gave groups huge exp bonuses that I assume will be fixed this time around.

Also OOC regen was still in, so there was little incentive to group. The regen coupled with the loss of the original zones (freeport, commonlands, highpass, NRo, Oasis, SRo, lavastorm, Nektulos) just makes any prog server "they" do pale in comparison. I just don't understand how a company loses code version history. Didn't anyone make a copy on a flash drive?

it's bullshit, u know crack head has a bunch of old tapes with every damn version sitting in a box in his garage.

it's more like 'we don't want to be legally blablah the lawyers say blahblah' don't do it blah blah, so then the CS lies or says what they were told by the devs, which the devs were told to tell, and they don't want to lose their old ass shitty cars over it, and smed has plenty of cocaine

[holsteinrx7]

U lost me at revamped and boxing

[Swish]

U lost me at revamped and boxing

[holsteinrx7]

When people quote me I Get verification that I'm not a ghost

[Oleris]

beta server coming in 2-3 weeks according to today's live stream.

[Formshifter]

so its going to have the newer versions of zones?

[Oleris]

p1999 code being sold to daybreak games confirmed... jk

http://i.imgur.com/AW8w4bB.jpg

[Grobb 1999]

It's going to be a complete shitshow. The new zones completely change the distance and feel of travel between the good races and evil as it mixed in FP and commonlands

[Big_Japan]

92 yes votes

http://i62.tinypic.com/34te9lg.gif

[Grobb 1999]

Lol DBG's top dev said she considered boxing classic and part of the game along with items having the updated no drop tag lololol. Have fun with that shit


/know how I know you don't play the game?

[iruinedyourday]

92 yes votes

http://i62.tinypic.com/34te9lg.gif

[nilzark]

This is what you get with the live server. Oooh, what fun!
https://assets-cdn.soe.com/uploads/dcsclient/000/000/055/961.jpg

[Bazia]

Macroquest

[jarshale]

Macroquest

Will I be able to /speed and /warp with impunity? If so, then yes.

[Bazia]

all 6 of your boxed toons baby zipping around having a gay ole time

[Oleris]

p1999 code being sold to daybreak games confirmed... jk

http://i.imgur.com/AW8w4bB.jpg

knew something was up.

[Turp_SmokinPurp]

Since Velious is delayed i might try this out.
Any p99 guild going?
https://www.everquest.com/news/progression-server-faq-april-15

[Turp_SmokinPurp]

Adding in
*Do you think when p99 and Daybreak made a deal they traded some code?
https://i.imgflip.com/kuuh2.jpg
Unclassic Freeport and common lands ewwww
They are offering what looks like a lot of original zones. (w/ no corpse runs sadly)
Would you play on that server if they had some p99 code?
Would need your advice Ele or another smart w/classic player.
On each one is it a p99 zone or a fake.


Splitpaw - Will begin in its first revamped form (with the Ishva Mal).
The Hole - Will begin in its first form (with Master Yael).
Plane of Hate - Will be in the current layout, but with population much like the original zone after the first loot revamp.
Plane of Fear - Will have population the same as the first loot revamp.
Droga/Nurga - Original population.
Firiona Vie - Original population.
Veeshan's Peak - Original population, but no Death Restrictions...what is DR
Grimling Forest - Original population.
Plane of Mischief - Original population. The "easy" entrance will not be active until it changes to the current version.
Zones that are set up in this manner will transition to their current datasets in roughly the same timeframe as they originally changed.

It all sounds ok but will items be classic or will they have the no drop/no level req bullshit (a big key for me), an have legendary items at start?

[Shaniril]

I would play, however boxing being a big thing on live kills it for me.

[Swish]

I would play, however boxing being a big thing on live kills it for me.

Yeah same... luckily for Daybreak there's quite a few in the EQemu community (not just P99) who love boxing and will be all over it :)

[Juevento]

Just petition everyone you suspect of boxing. And of course be sure to yell FTE after you've engaged a mob...

[webrunner5]

No.

[FoxxHound]

fuck no

[Whirled]

Only time enough for one game in my life.
and barely sometimes =(

[dbouya]

won't be classic at all in anyway..


won't be playing.



https://forums.station.sony.com/eq/index.php?threads/new-progression-server-faq-and-upcoming-poll-details.219588/



if they made it classic, i might.

[Red_Psyphon]

hell naw

[Oleris]

RAGEFIRE official name of the prog server. read more here.

https://forums.station.sony.com/eq/index.php?threads/the-new-progression-server-name-is.219997/

[Llodd]

3 months is 'slow'. That's just stupid

[Silentsong]

Will the new server have that double xp for recruit a friend accounts? Cause that is some bull.

No, DGC have said Recruit a Friend bonuses will not apply.

[Silentsong]

won't be classic at all in anyway..


won't be playing.



https://forums.station.sony.com/eq/index.php?threads/new-progression-server-faq-and-upcoming-poll-details.219588/



if they made it classic, i might.



Total classic = shit. Sorry, but nostalgia is where you think something was better than it actually was. I am all for some improvements like the updated UI, less bothered about the new zones (though would prefer nro, oasis and sro to be classic), but definitely needs to be slower progression than the shitshow and hackfest of Fippy.

I don't think MQ2 will be as big of a problem this time around. They definitely improved their logging for warping and gating, which is what totally screwed up those servers in the initial year.

[Silentsong]

it's bullshit, u know crack head has a bunch of old tapes with every damn version sitting in a box in his garage.

it's more like 'we don't want to be legally blablah the lawyers say blahblah' don't do it blah blah, so then the CS lies or says what they were told by the devs, which the devs were told to tell, and they don't want to lose their old ass shitty cars over it, and smed has plenty of cocaine

eh? i'd say you haven't been sharing your own stash of cocaine with anyone based on that paragraph.

[Eliseus]

Speaking of MQ2, are companies like daybreak aloud to adopt the same tools used here to prevent mq2? I don't know what is technically legal and illegal and blah blah blah. If someone could help me understand more would be greatly appreciated.

[Oleris]

https://forums.daybreakgames.com/eq/index.php?threads/ragefire-poll-results-and-beta-information.220107/

poll results are in. classic only on launch, max nolstagia until vote opens, can vote to stop progression. Looks solid to play for a couple years up to PoP

[Oleris]

When the server is opened, only zones, classes, and races that existed when EverQuest first launched will be available, with some exceptions.
Paineel and the Hole will be open.

The Temple of Solusek Ro will be open.

Everyone will start at level 1. There is no tutorial, characters can not transfer to this server, and Heroic Characters are not available to be redeemed.

When raid targets are defeated, they will be broadcast across the server. When all of the raid targets in an expansion are defeated, a countdown begins.

For EverQuest, Kunark, Velious, Luclin, and Planes of Power, this countdown will be six months.
For Gates of Discord and all following expansions, this countdown will be three months.
Polls are scheduled to start every two weeks, on every other Monday. May 4th was the most recent, May 18th will be the next, and so on.

If the countdown timer ends with at least a full 168-hour week left before the current poll ends, the current poll will be activated. If there is less than a full week left in the current poll, the next one will be activated.

When a poll is active, you will go to a Priest of Discord and say 'vote.' If you're within 21 levels of the current level cap, you are allowed to vote.
When the poll ends, if more people voted 'yes' to the next expansion than 'no,' the next expansion will open and the cycle begins again.
__________________

[Oleris]

beta opening in next 7 days. beta installer here.

http://launch.soe.com/installer/EQ_Beta_setup.exe.

[SamwiseRed]

beta opening in next 7 days. beta installer here.

http://launch.soe.com/installer/EQ_Beta_setup.exe.

nice, thanks for lank

[Champion_Standing]

When the server is opened, only zones, classes, and races that existed when EverQuest first launched will be available, with some exceptions.
Paineel and the Hole will be open.

The Temple of Solusek Ro will be open.

Everyone will start at level 1. There is no tutorial, characters can not transfer to this server, and Heroic Characters are not available to be redeemed.

When raid targets are defeated, they will be broadcast across the server. When all of the raid targets in an expansion are defeated, a countdown begins.

For EverQuest, Kunark, Velious, Luclin, and Planes of Power, this countdown will be six months.
For Gates of Discord and all following expansions, this countdown will be three months.
Polls are scheduled to start every two weeks, on every other Monday. May 4th was the most recent, May 18th will be the next, and so on.

If the countdown timer ends with at least a full 168-hour week left before the current poll ends, the current poll will be activated. If there is less than a full week left in the current poll, the next one will be activated.

When a poll is active, you will go to a Priest of Discord and say 'vote.' If you're within 21 levels of the current level cap, you are allowed to vote.
When the poll ends, if more people voted 'yes' to the next expansion than 'no,' the next expansion will open and the cycle begins again.
__________________

So is that 6 months per expansion or a 6 month timeframe until all those expansion open?

[Champion_Standing]

WTF they are instancing newbie zones? Baahahahahha

[Big_Japan]

92 yes votes

http://i62.tinypic.com/34te9lg.gif

WTF they are instancing newbie zones? Baahahahahha

129 yes votes

http://i62.tinypic.com/34te9lg.gif

[Champion_Standing]

129 yes votes

http://i62.tinypic.com/34te9lg.gif

Fuckin a man...my immersion....

[Knuckle]

If it was free yes, but not paying $15/m for an even more unclassic version of classic.

almost this, if it was free, still fuck no. make a real classic server for live that's the only way a real player will log in for a classic experience. Their 'classic progression' is complete garbage and its like jumping into 16 expansions of shit that trickled down to the original trilogy, 16 different types of shit that mixed into one cesspool, and then calling it classic.

[Bazia]

mq scripted 40 shadowknight HT raids

[Pokesan]

when is Quarm server?

[Alenon]

Have they said how long the beta will go, or announced the live date?

[Oleris]

release is in june. beta sometimes within in next week they said.

[Oleris]

beta is live. Once it goes live I'm looking for someone to play a chanter/ench with my 3box. Will pay your sub for first 1-2 months. LMK if interested.

[Pringles]

I logged in to beta, thanks to you guys that took all my names =P

I beta buffed my toon to 50, the gear on my beta buffed toon surprised me a lot. My spellbook was full of non expansion appropriate spells etc. I get its just a beta buffed toon, but this leaves me feeling that many many things will be in game that should not be, and it will trivialize the game / content even further than their modern patches already have (out of combat mana regen / hp regen seemed to work etc etc)

Not for me.

[Silentsong]

Like you said, its just beta. The speed at which they slammed the server out there leaves me with no surprises its full of stuff that it shouldn't. However, most will likely be cleaned up and remedied prior to launch in June.

DBG use players more than ever to test and help develop their games. Just like at EQN and H1Z1. This is no different with the beta server.

[Silentsong]

mq scripted 40 shadowknight HT raids

Unlikely this time. they figured that out with Fippy, granted 2 years into it, but still better late than never. Their logging is a lot better. If people think they will get away with gate cheats they will get banned. If it does start to happen the subs will drop off real fast and then they'll need to answer to their new Russian owners.

[ymw]

beta is live. Once it goes live I'm looking for someone to play a chanter/ench with my 3box. Will pay your sub for first 1-2 months. LMK if interested.

What kinda play time?

I don't need my sub paid, but might be interested in playing with some folks to start.

[Oleris]

melee parses. looks like mage pet will be best dps.

https://forums.daybreakgames.com/eq/index.php?threads/beta-melee-parses.220233/

[Zade]

300 beta tokens under my belt. whaat

[ctre]

You could make 10 wizards, (1 clr rezzer) .. 10 box them and pwn the server with them all.

Anybody got a picture of the dude with 10 wizards challenging Fourier for a duel..
He put a picure of his 10 box wiz set-up on the forum then. Damm that picture was a long long time past

[Oleris]

releases 5/20!

[stormlord]

I don't think Ragefire will pull away many p1999ers because:
1) They want something up to velious or luclin, not after (Ragefire will progress after luclin)
2) Many don't want a modern retake either; ooc regen, non-classic quests/items, etc
2) People on live who're already paying the $15/month sub are more likely to play Ragefire

I think only people here who'll go to play on it are people who may want to try the normal servers or return to some of their characters on the normal servers AND pay the $15/month fee for the bonuses. Lets face it, the bulk of teh people who want Ragefire are likely already subbed to live right now or have at least played there recently.

I played for free last year on live. It was fun. Maybe if I returned and played some more i'd want to sub. But honestly I'd want to sub to play the normal servers. If I want classic, I'd come to p1999. Nothing beats it for the era it's made. BUT having said that, I enjoyed the POP and SOF/SOD eras, minus the Mckenzie mission bridge content patches. The Mckenzie missions were put in POK and basically a fast way to get lvl 80 characters into UF and after. Cheap gimmick bridge content. There was some fun to be had in the Mckenzie missions, but it's not EQ. It's an instanced monster mission. It's like a joke lacking subtlety. Look so I understand they want bridge content to move leveling players into higher tier content, but can't they respect the game? Even a shred of respect would include modifying the gameplay in SOD, but they did not. Mckenzie missions were the way to go.

You know what I always find ironic about all this??? I hated grinding things for quests in EQ. I hated that. I hated having to camp a ph for something to get to the next stage in a quest. That's obviously sucky. Or having to wait until you have X of something, grinding the same spot killing dozens of said creatures. Those things to me are what need to be addressed. But please don't destroy the game in the process. Don't kill the Risk vs Reward. Don't kill consequences. God, can these people do anything right? And don't evne think about suggesting more monster missions. They shoot themselves in the foot.

[pink grapefruit]

I'd play it if was pvp.