Worse thing about playing a Paladin.....(contaned inside).

[Salahdin]

is missing so much in a row that the mob ur soloing actually regens 1% health.



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[Erydan Ouragan]

is missing so much in a row that the mob ur soloing actually regens 1% health.



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This is why you need a healer and some dps to assist you when you solo a mob, but in return you must share the xp gained with them. Also known as a "group".

[Lorian]

is missing so much in a row that the mob ur soloing actually regens 1% health.
:mad:
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Hmmm, you are EPICED and can not solo a mob at lv25?!? Time to change tactics, there is a bit on how to solo a paladin here on the forum if you have a looksie. In Velious we will hit just as often as a warrior, hopefully just a few weeks away now! :)

[Atmas]

Hmmm, you are EPICED and can not solo a mob at lv25?!? Time to change tactics, there is a bit on how to solo a paladin here on the forum if you have a looksie. In Velious we will hit just as often as a warrior, hopefully just a few weeks away now! :)

Paladin's can't get epic below 46.

Also, yes Paladins should hit a lot more in Velious assuming the proper and accurate changes are made. They should also hit a lot harder with 2handers assuming the 2h change goes in. The line of spells and available gear they get in Velious is also a big boost.

Paladins have a bit of a rough time on P99. A lot of people don't appreciate their ability to do multiple things pretty well because they aren't the best at any one single aspect of the game (except arguably for group tanking). On live Paladins were a class that really stacked AC and benefited from agility, both of which are much less effective here.

[Swish]

This is why you need a healer and some dps to assist you when you solo a mob, but in return you must share the xp gained with them. Also known as a "group".

this guy lol

[Lorian]

Paladin's can't get epic below 46.

Sorry, missed the footnote about the epic there! Someone in an earlier thread suggested a good solo tactic would be to root the mob, then joust them with your two hander and quickly step back to avoid being hit back. My pally is only lv 13 so far so have not been able to see if this works for myself, but I guess you would ideally use a Baton of Faith?

[Whiteberry]

Soulfire anyone?

[Itap]

If you rolled a paladin with the intentions of doing dps, youre doing it wrong

[Atmas]

Sorry, missed the footnote about the epic there! Someone in an earlier thread suggested a good solo tactic would be to root the mob, then joust them with your two hander and quickly step back to avoid being hit back. My pally is only lv 13 so far so have not been able to see if this works for myself, but I guess you would ideally use a Baton of Faith?

Yes, this tactic works for a portion of leveling when you have a nice 2hander and do more damage in a round than the mobs who blue to you.

[Atmas]

If you rolled a paladin with the intentions of doing dps, youre doing it wrong

This is definitely true. However, in my opinion mobs in this "Kunark" era aren't necessarily tuned right. Paladin dps should never be high but it is lower than it should be because misses are too frequent, once again imho.

I will reiterate though, the real problem isn't dps, it's that Paladins (tanks as a whole in certain ways) take too much damage. Evasive mitigation is doing way more than it should. Once again this is based on my recollection. I know that a lot of work has been put into the AC code, it's appreciated, but I still think it needs tweaking.

[maskedmelon]

Paladin misses don't really become an issue until mid 40's. Prior to that just pick up one or two decent str items and yaulp. If you are soloing, make liberal use of berserker strength line and be sure to refresh it before it starts getting poopy. Depending on how quickly you kill that could me recasting it every 1 - 3 kills. Of course as everyone has already said, paladins are most effective in full groups. We can solo and we can do very well in small groups, but damage is not our thang and you have to approach the character as such.

[Salahdin]

Aye.
No epic till 46 but its ready to turn in.

Luv Paladins just sometimes we go on record breaking miss cycles and miss 3-4 melee rounds :mad:.

Velious gunna be good for them.






P.s. people don't appreciate paladins here coz everyone is focused on MAX DPs, but pretty much in every group I play in, I eventually save at least one person from death with my LoH on bad pulls... Wars be still trying to get agro on 1 mob while the group panics and tries and does cc work.

Paladin = life saving LoH + CC + almost insta agro + tanking + semi pulling/splitting skills.

[Dacien]

On live Paladins were a class that really stacked AC ...much less effective here.

Can you elaborate on this? I'm seriously stacking AC because I had heard that was the thing to do. Is AC borked on P99?

[Arteker]

hilarious, i wonder how i soloed mine to 60

[Nirgon]

all the mobs feel like they have the same ac from my time playing melee here

i have no prof

[curtischoy]

My main on Live was a paladin, I stopped at SoD expansion and I remember even then when I would go to break mez missing a few times and everyone in the group laughing at me. Good times.

[kaev]

My main on Live was a paladin, I stopped at SoD expansion and I remember even then when I would go to break mez missing a few times and everyone in the group laughing at me. Good times.

[Nuggie]

hilarious, i wonder how i soloed mine to 60

Not everyone is a glutton for punishment, or prefer to walk up hill both ways in the snow to school.

My advice: make another char. A caster, preferably. On the uncommon days where a tank isn't the hardest group spot to fill for any particular leveling range go play your caster for a bit. Try again in a while.

[Issar]

I have 0 issues finding groups here. Sadly as of late, due to poor play times, I've had to decline groups. I also don't have any issues soloing here. I use a BoF that I bought for 90p and have looted/quested almost all of my items. Purchased rings and arms. Yeah, you will miss on some swings, but you also get to heal and stun between swings. So it seems to even out, at least from my perspective. I would assume you'd hit more frequently as a ogre or troll SK.

[Issar]

Not everyone is a glutton for punishment, or prefer to walk up hill both ways in the snow to school.

My advice: make another char. A caster, preferably. On the uncommon days where a tank isn't the hardest group spot to fill for any particular leveling range go play your caster for a bit. Try again in a while.

Totally agree with this.

[Erati]

I engaged Faydedar around a month ago with my decked out 60 paly and I swear I probably missed attacks 60% of the silly 40 sec or whatever fight

for reference- an unhasted lvl 52 N/V monk out DPS'd him by like 300 damage lol

[wormed]

Thankfully, Flash of Light is such a solid aggro spell, cause I miss so damn often. It's a miracle when I string together hits.

But I loves my Paladin.

[kaev]

Thankfully, Flash of Light is such a solid aggro spell, cause I miss so damn often. It's a miracle when I string together hits.

But I loves my Paladin.

A miss gets the same agro as a hit. Melee agro is per swing and is affected by weapon base damage & primary hand damage bonus if applicable, and is reduced by a fixed percentage for 2handers. High strength will do more damage, which is good in and of itself, but it has zero effect on melee threat.

[indiscriminate_hater]

A miss gets the same agro as a hit. Melee agro is per swing and is affected by weapon base damage & primary hand damage bonus if applicable, and is reduced by a fixed percentage for 2handers. High strength will do more damage, which is good in and of itself, but it has zero effect on melee threat.

is this different for pets? my pet will definitely not take aggro on a mob until it gets a hit or two in, assuming i've snared the mob or something

[kaev]

is this different for pets? my pet will definitely not take aggro on a mob until it gets a hit or two in, assuming i've snared the mob or something

I have no fucking clue how they do pet agro on p99.

[shimonuh]

Paladin's can't get epic below 46.

You can delevel.

[kaev]

Paladin's can't get epic below 46.


You can delevel.

I don't know if there are powerful enough drugs available to treat self-loathing so strong it leads you to delevel a paladin on p99. Oh wait, you play on red, right? nm

[maskedmelon]

I don't know if there are powerful enough drugs available to treat self-loathing so strong it leads you to delevel a paladin on p99.

I lol'd... +1

[webrunner5]

I have some pretty sad news for anyone that thinks a Paladin gets better in Velious. They get a little better but the Mobs get a LOT better. So if you think you can't kill anything now just wait. It ain't going to be pretty. :o

But they do make good pullers in a group in Velious I will give them that.

[Erydan Ouragan]

I have some pretty sad news for anyone that thinks a Paladin gets better in Velious. They get a little better but the Mobs get a LOT better. So if you think you can't kill anything now just wait. It ain't going to be pretty. :o

But they do make good pullers in a group in Velious I will give them that.

Paladins actually do get better in velious. Like you said, mobs get a lot better, therefore less solo, therefore, more groups.

Groups need tanks, paladins are the best tank for groups. DPS can relax their clenched anus because they don't steal agro when they start doing their thing when a paladin is tanking.

This makes it a more pleasurable experience to play with a pally. Tougher mobs is actually a great things for them.

[Atmas]

Yes, mobs do get tougher, but Paladins gain a lot in defensive skills and a lot more hpt gear is available.

[wormed]

I have some pretty sad news for anyone that thinks a Paladin gets better in Velious. They get a little better but the Mobs get a LOT better. So if you think you can't kill anything now just wait. It ain't going to be pretty. :o

But they do make good pullers in a group in Velious I will give them that.

Being put on the same table as warriors and 2H improvements. I personally can't wait for my Paladin to be flat out better. :p

[citizen1080]

Joined in Jan 2015, 2 epic twinks. Shoulda named your toons Paypal and Western Union! =)

[Ezalor]

is this guy beaniron?

i ask because there was only one other moran who made a new thread about paladins every other day, seemed to know nothing about the class yet has 100's of k in gear

[webrunner5]

Joined in Jan 2015, 2 epic twinks. Shoulda named your toons Paypal and Western Union! =)

Good one Bob. Either that or he has some VERY generous friends on here. :eek:

[Alanus]

I have some pretty sad news for anyone that thinks a Paladin gets better in Velious. They get a little better but the Mobs get a LOT better. So if you think you can't kill anything now just wait. It ain't going to be pretty. :o

But they do make good pullers in a group in Velious I will give them that.

Celestial cleansing is amazing for soloing.

[Aviann]

Celestial cleansing is amazing for soloing.

And has by far the coolest spell graphics to come in Velious!

[Clark]

Best thing about paladin: Deepwater Helm and Lay of Hands

[Sadre Spinegnawer]

From the Hexen2 wiki:

"The Vorpal Sword allows the Paladin's close combat attacks to be enhanced by using mana but with the advantage of still being effective when the mana runs out. When combined with the Tome of Power not only does the potential damage increase but it sends out a shockwave giving the Paladin a ranged weapon."

Will p99 ever get the vorpal sword Hexen2 paladin pak? Shit rocked on my old Hexenquest emulator.

[Salahdin]

Best thing about paladin: Deepwater Helm and Lay of Hands

*nods*

Celestial cleansing is amazing for soloing.

*nods*

And has by far the coolest spell graphics to come in Velious!

You can check it out on beta server, blue saber of light!

Joined in Jan 2015, 2 epic twinks. Shoulda named your toons Paypal and Western Union! =)

check sig now - 3rd toon!

[Salahdin]

is this guy beaniron?

i ask because there was only one other moran who made a new thread about paladins every other day, seemed to know nothing about the class yet has 100's of k in gear

what are you talking about?

I've made 3 threads regarding Paladins:

a) re: book of souls, which was common as hell on Red, and wasn't quite sure why it was so hard to get here. ( which resulted in someone coming forward and we worked out a deal on the book ).

b) a thread asking about a robe I vaguely remembered dropping in the revamp Plane of Hate that all classes could use for a graphic ( which was proven to be not true, forgive my 13-14-15 years ago memory ) because I know I aint wasting my time getting VP keyed just to get Azure Robe ( which would go to a Paladin last considering the casters stats on it ).

c) and this thread which is meant as a jest, which I think 9/10 of people see it for that.


:rolleyes: