Why the BFG was removed.

[zanderklocke]

EverQuest popped up an article in my Facebook newsfeed that had some interesting EverQuest stories from current developers related to Project M and other things like the BFG.

http://venturebeat.com/2015/03/25/the-worst-ideas-you-never-saw-in-everquest-like-the-muffin-zone/

And along with the ninjas came guns.

“And any time you have pirates, there’s a cannon there,” Caraker said. But that wasn’t the most famous gun in the franchise, he said. That one is actually an homage to another game altogether.

“In 2000, in the Scars of Velious expansion, somebody put in a reference to the BFG from the Quake franchise,” Jonathan Caraker said. “They put in this quest, and you did a couple of things, and you got a weapon that used archery but it looked like a robotic arm that you wore.

“It was out of character, and it did some things in our game that weren’t good for the gameplay. When you would attack something, it would fly back across the zone. A huge swath of the zone would come back to where you are. It created crazy trains. Players have been asking for us to bring it back forever. We have said no for 15 years.”

[JayN]

MAn BFG better be in

[Tiggles]

Too bad the BFG will be literally farmed 24/7 until it's removed and everyone and their third twink will have one removing any exclusivity.

[Itap]

Too bad the BFG will be literally farmed 24/7 until it's removed and everyone and their third twink will have one removing any exclusivity.

You want exclusiveness on a 15 year old video game?

[loramin]

You want exclusiveness on a 15 year old video game?

Isn't that why TMO gets up in the morning*?


* or whatever time the batphone rings ;)

[Swish]

Too bad the BFG will be literally farmed 24/7 until it's removed and everyone and their third twink will have one removing any exclusivity.

I hate that I'm not the only one on the server with a prenerf CoS... life is hard :(

[Rais]

When Yelinak was rooted the BFG could still move him. I think on the 3rd change to Yelinak they changed the type of "root" that was used to control him and it no longer worked.

[iruinedyourday]

Cool find Zander! Hey guys in this pic a caster has it equipped but afaik a caster isn't supposed to be able to use this, anyone know the rule?

http://venturebeat.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/BFG3.jpg

[JayN]

Cool find Zander! Hey guys in this pic a caster has it equipped but afaik a caster isn't supposed to be able to use this, anyone know the rule?

http://venturebeat.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/BFG3.jpg

probably just used MQ to equip it

[khanable]

probably just used MQ to equip it

This was a thing?

[JayN]

This was a thing?

Yup Macroquest lets you do all sorts of crazy things, or it could be useable class equipping a robe

[kagrobb]

the part of the quest removed was the driftwood branch that was a random groundspawn in iceclad iirc

[Secrets]

Yup Macroquest lets you do all sorts of crazy things, or it could be useable class equipping a robe

On EQEmu the stats/clicky/worn won't apply though.

[Pint]

This was a thing?

No

[JayN]

On EQEmu the stats/clicky/worn won't apply though.

I have no idea I have not used macroquest since the late 90's

Im sure a good coder can still get it working semi functional on here. I was just speaking to the screenshot posted

[Atmas]

Project M was so awesome. I was so sad about how short lived it was, but not surprised.

[Brocode]

man Project M was super fun, a gang of fire beetles? that was awesome hahaha.

[Secrets]

I have no idea I have not used macroquest since the late 90's

Im sure a good coder can still get it working semi functional on here. I was just speaking to the screenshot posted

Item stats and such are serversided, as are click/worn effects.

[Whiteberry]

Nilbog has that weapon on Beta I'm pretty sure.

[Nirgon]

People were using it to jump islands in sky so it was removed

Not like it slowed anyone down from doing that

[maskedmelon]

People were using it to jump islands in sky so it was removed

Not like it slowed anyone down from doing that

Not to mention, isn't sky already pretty trivial by the time you can acquire that?

[Ele]

Nilbog has that weapon on Beta I'm pretty sure.

I got one.

The planks spawn if people want to spend time to look for them.

[GinnasP99]

Can someone enlighten me as to what the BFG is ? I assume you're not talking about this

http://i.imgur.com/nTlx922.png

[maskedmelon]

Can someone enlighten me as to what the BFG is ? I assume you're not talking about this

http://i.imgur.com/nTlx922.png

It was a short-lived ranged weapon quested from PoM and inspired by the weapon in that image. Had massive knockback and was removed as a result.

[GinnasP99]

It was a short-lived ranged weapon quested from PoM and inspired by the weapon in that image. Had massive knockback and was removed as a result.

Lol, im dumb. I just reread the OP

[maskedmelon]

Lol, im dumb. I just reread the OP

's ok. You're a blind smurf with a raygun... I think?

[Nirgon]

Not to mention, isn't sky already pretty trivial by the time you can acquire that?

One of the many things that must be taken up with McQuaid

this shit is classic, get one before its gone

whenever it comes out

again

[derpcake]

Cool find Zander! Hey guys in this pic a caster has it equipped but afaik a caster isn't supposed to be able to use this, anyone know the rule?

http://venturebeat.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/BFG3.jpg

Knowing the state of eqlive, that might be a female paladin with a DE illusion and a robe.

Its not like here, you can't really recognize classes with pimp shit :p

[derpcake]

Can someone enlighten me as to what the BFG is ? I assume you're not talking about this

http://i.imgur.com/nTlx922.png

Breezeboot's Frigid Gnasher, like the Big Fucking Gun from Doom.

http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?item=4970

Its not a PoM quest. It has a huge knockback effect.

Also at some point there was some combination with a disc that actually made it do a ton of dps, so the skill type was changed (iirc).

[Nirgon]

o ya trueshot with it

highly recommend

[Ravager]

You want exclusiveness on a 15 year old video game?

He wants exclusiveness at Old Country Buffet.

[dafier]

He wants exclusiveness at Old Country Buffet.

or Po-Folks

[GinnasP99]

's ok. You're a blind smurf with a raygun... I think?

It's a Starcraft thing ;D

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hQ0aUz92u4g

[xKoopa]

This was a thing?

you know that ridiculous sword of truth from sseru?

yeah i used that on a lvl 1 char on eqlive along with full ssra/vt gear

was definitely a thing


also used that bow/arrow from GoD that was unequippable on my ranger


good times mang

[iruinedyourday]

I cant imagine how fun this weapon would be on red... oh hey taking the boat too? NOPE

oh hey doing a quest turn in? NOPE

Oh hai NOPE

[Fazlazen]

bfg's real use was to stack boss mobs in corners.

[maskedmelon]

It's a Starcraft thing ;D

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hQ0aUz92u4g

Ohhh, lol ^^

[JayN]

I cant imagine how fun this weapon would be on red... oh hey taking the boat too? NOPE

oh hey doing a quest turn in? NOPE

Oh hai NOPE

pretty sure 20k makes u lose exp >:)

[Ashikabi]

I still have the BFG on my character on live servers (veeshan/luclin) even though I haven't played him in over 10 years. But just to put my 2 cents in... There were many reasons why the quest was removed but they mainly took it out because we could move perma rooted mobs. For example: There were perma rooted giants that spawned for one of the coldain ring quests. We could knock these giants away from an area and easily solo that portion. However, some idiots would move npcs such as these giants as well as giants in kael to the zone ins to slaughter players.

I remember a guide friend of mine told me that another reason was because there weren't suppose to be any items with moving parts. These were reserved for special items such as Epic weapons.

Another reason is probably because at one point during a gm tournament in the arena, I knocked players including the GM out of the arena. He had no clue what happened LOL. Apparently this was unfair to the other opponents even though it took forever to cast and was resisted by those with high MR.

They nerfed the bfg a couple times too. The first time reduced the cast time since players use to be able to knock a mob back, nuke, knock back, nuke over and over without the mob touching you. Another time they increased resistances of mobs so that the spell would be resisted. We'd had to remove all our equip to knock players from isle to isle in PoA. Then at one point they either increased or reduced it's range (its a bow). I don't remember if using the bow could trigger the knockback effect (I was a pally so I didn't use it much.)

One of the funniest things to do with it was climb to a high place and blast yourself across the distance like a rocket. Back on Veeshan server, we all gathered in North Freeport near the bank to sell items and I'd blast myself clear across the area from atop of the bank. Other than that it's a pretty useless item but it was nice being one of the only players with one on the server. The hardest part of the quest was getting the planking. I spent literally 6-8 hours a day for a month trying to get it. Then one day when I logged in, it was sitting right in front of me. What made it difficult to get was sweedish players used ShowEQ or whatever to read the game packets in order to see where it'd spawn or if it was up. Plus getting max faction for Breezeboot was tedious too. I was hella worried I'd end up with a random weapon instead of getting the BFG so I maxed it out as much as possible. Good times... good times...

-Dwunkin Donuts

[Clark]

People were using it to jump islands in sky so it was removed

Not like it slowed anyone down from doing that

[Sadre Spinegnawer]

Too bad the BFG will be literally farmed 24/7 until it's removed and everyone and their third twink will have one removing any exclusivity.

Thankfully, we have white knights like you to defend its honor.

[HalflingWarrior]

You want exclusiveness on a 15 year old video game?

EMULATED VERSION of a 15 year old game lol. These have been farming VP for EIGHT TIMES longer than classic and it still isn't enough for them; read: they've been playing for 12 hours a day for five years straight to ensure exclusivity

[Rararboker]

EMULATED VERSION of a 15 year old game lol. These have been farming VP for EIGHT TIMES longer than classic and it still isn't enough for them; read: they've been playing for 12 hours a day for five years straight to ensure exclusivity

You know repeating yourself in a bunch of threads makes you look sad and desperate.

Also pretty hilarious.

[HalflingWarrior]

You know repeating yourself in a bunch of threads makes you look sad and desperate.

Also pretty hilarious.

I'm workin an overnight and its Monday so the ER is empty. So bored.

Also the tmo faggots have posted the same shit in multiple threads; ie the "these items aren't for everyone on the server" entitlement faggotry

[TheThaloc]

I still have the BFG on my character on live servers (veeshan/luclin) even though I haven't played him in over 10 years. But just to put my 2 cents in... There were many reasons why the quest was removed but they mainly took it out because we could move perma rooted mobs.-Dwunkin Donuts

Fun fact: yelinak at one point could drown in his moat.

[JayN]

EMULATED VERSION of a 15 year old game lol. These have been farming VP for EIGHT TIMES longer than classic and it still isn't enough for them; read: they've been playing for 12 hours a day for five years straight to ensure exclusivity

I'm workin an overnight and its Monday so the ER is empty. So bored.

Also the tmo faggots have posted the same shit in multiple threads; ie the "these items aren't for everyone on the server" entitlement faggotry

madsadbadfat you project a lot