Noobs guide to a velious Release

[Kileras]

Hey all. I was too young back in the days of live to really understand the effects that the velious release had. Can anyone more experienced step up and give a brief break down to us non hardcore people the big differences that are going to come in velious?

for instance:

1) What gear am i going for right now that is going to be a waste of money once velious comes out? For help, I am a bard.

2) What are some of the best parts about velious release besides additional raiding? what are the hot spots people would consider for leveling and when does it become an option? If i remember, velious was geared more towards mid/high lvl content.

3) what content are you most excited for? What are the big quests/items/factions that all of us budding players looking to get into guilds/raiding should be doing?


Thanks ahead of time. I am JUST getting really addicted again with my lvl 37 bard... For some reason i am almost kind of scared of the release. I just am getting my bearings now and doing my lambent quests, thinking of investing money in some gear... should I hold out? what do i need to know? help, nerds, help!



Some things that have been said that seem helpful:

FBSS and other haste items going to go down in price because of SCHW, and maybe plunder patch?
Ry'gorr gear is good and drops frequently (especially earring).
+hp rings won't be worth as much/don't buy them right now because the velious era ones are better.
Look into tailoring/brewing for coldain ring quests

[Samoht]

1) What gear am i going for right now that is going to be a waste of money once velious comes out? For help, I am a bard.

haste. SCHW (http://wiki.project1999.com/Silver_Chitin_Hand_Wraps) will come out with velious, and they will drop like candy because of people camping the SCWB (http://wiki.project1999.com/Silver_Chitin_Wristband). every melee will want two SCWB. expect the market to fall out on droppable haste items (particularly fbss/sotdb).

2) What are some of the best parts about velious release besides additional raiding? what are the hot spots people would consider for leveling and when does it become an option? If i remember, velious was geared more towards mid/high lvl content.

velious has some interesting EXP dungeons with twists like tower of frozen shadows, cyrstal caverns, and velkator's labyrinth. velious is generally considered 30+ for levelling.

3) what content are you most excited for? What are the big quests/items/factions that all of us budding players looking to get into guilds/raiding should be doing?

thrugadin ring/shawl, velks, plane of growth, plane of mischief, kael drakkal, temple of veeshan, skyshrine, western wastes, dragon's necropolis... the list goes on. there is A LOT for a level 60 to do in velious.

[Daldaen]

1. A few items will decrease in value but at your level not much. I would suggest against buying Diamondine Earrings (3 STR 12 HP), cause Velious introduces the RyGorr Earrings which are 3 more HP and dirt common.

2. Tons of outdoor zones. Crystal Caverns, EW Ry'Gorr Fort, Tower of Frozen Shadow are all going to be in your level range. ToFS some people love, I think it's pretty dumb though. Too many Keys too many casters. Rather annoying CRs.

Bards can AE kite in Iceclad very well.

3. Armor quests are going to be the big ones. There are a few solid other quests but they will be locked down by level 60s for quite awhile.

There isn't much mid level gear that becomes extremely common other than Rygorr pieces. I'd say buy whatever you are after now and sort of Velious when it happens. Nothing around your level will shake up, other than some people moving to CC/EW/GD to group outdoorsy.

[wormed]

This is a good thread. The haste suggestion above was really helpful as well as the earring suggestion. Two things I don't have at the moment so it may be smart to wait! Cheers.

[Samoht]

1. I would suggest against buying Diamondine Earrings (3 STR 12 HP), cause Velious introduces the RyGorr Earrings which are 3 more HP and dirt common.

orc fang earring (http://wiki.project1999.com/Orc_Fang_Earring)

[Cecily]

I like the 4 str 2 int earrings a lil more. Way cheaper and better imo.

[Kileras]

all this ry'gorr armor looks really really good considering it drops off most of the mobs there in EW. pretty great stats too.

[Swish]

Don't forget your Pringles tube and plenty of socks, you'll want to absolutely exploit the shit out of the economy for the first 6 months <3

I bet those tunnel fat cats can't wait to spend the 1,2 or 5 million plat they've been saving.

[Samoht]

I like the 4 str 2 int earrings a lil more. Way cheaper and better imo.

snack earrings (http://wiki.project1999.com/Sarnak_Earring_of_Station) are still better than that. what now?

3 ac, 15 hp > 1 str, though.

[Atmas]

1. If you are new it is probably not something in your price range anyway, but Necklace of Superiority price should drop like a rock. There are a ton of talismans with comparable stats.

[Erati]

you guys are thinking Cougar Claw Earring

4 Dex 2 Str?

they are kinda neat

edit: they are 4 ac 3 str 2 dex, dif than I remember a lil better I suppose

http://wiki.project1999.com/Cougar_Claw_Earring

[Erati]

1. If you are new it is probably not something in your price range anyway, but Necklace of Superiority price should drop like a rock. There are a ton of talismans with comparable stats.

and no you wont be seeing any NoS's below 25-30 ish K even with Western Wastes Talismans

at least not for several months

that should be another thread tho - Velious, Items and Prices

[Daldaen]

1. If you are new it is probably not something in your price range anyway, but Necklace of Superiority price should drop like a rock. There are a ton of talismans with comparable stats.

All of these are off level 50 dragons in Western Wastes (a zone which you need a Skyshrine key to reach), all of which are no drop, semi-uncommon (not 100% drops), and the best (6s) will be camped for awhile.

NoS won't be the 30k it is. But it remains a solid tradeable/twinkable option

[Atmas]

and no you wont be seeing any NoS's below 25-30 ish K even with Western Wastes Talismans

at least not for several months

that should be another thread tho - Velious, Items and Prices


All of these are off level 50 dragons in Western Wastes (a zone which you need a Skyshrine key to reach), all of which are no drop, semi-uncommon (not 100% drops), and the best (6s) will be camped for awhile.

NoS won't be the 30k it is. But it remains a solid tradeable/twinkable option


You guys are funny. First off Skyshrine key for WW??? Secondly, those dragons are jokes. NoS will be a twink item and probably a more pricey one, but 25K, nope. Unless you are thinking there will just be a mass influx of plat and everything gets super inflated.

There are a ton of talismans even outside of the quest piece ones and those dragons are going to be getting killed like clockwork, (think SoS). That isn't even counting other neck items that will be added to the game. 5+ talismans are better than NoS and 4+ will make it not worth it for a lot of people to pay 25K for the small difference.

[Atmas]

Oh, and sorry for thread derailment.

[Daldaen]

Okay then.

Pray tell.

How does one travel to Western Wastes without having a Skyshrine key (the one that clicks you into CS)?

[Kileras]

Oh, and sorry for thread derailment.

There is no turning back, i appreciate the sentiment though :)

[Ele]

Okay then.

Pray tell.

How does one travel to Western Wastes without having a Skyshrine key (the one that clicks you into CS)?

Call an Uber.

[Erati]

There is no turning back, i appreciate the sentiment though :)

I am gonna be nice and not argue bc no one actually knows what will happen with prices etc

however NoS will not become an item people give away bc of +3 and +4 necks that will be a hassle to get on peoples lowbie alts

[Daldaen]

I'm assuming you forgot about the Tooth of XX requirement to be ported in Velious.

WW has one access point, Siren's Grotto
SG has one access point, Cobalt Scar
CS has two access points. Skyshrine (requiring the key) and Ports. (Well 3 but PoMischief doesn't count)

To be ported to CS however you need to have a Tooth of Cobalt Scar on your person (this is a soulbound ground spawn item, located in the CS portal ring). Meaning to get ported to CS you must first run there on foot and collect this item.

In summary - First few weeks, when the Quest NPC for the key is being killed every 20minutes and people are handing off the camp trying to block others from accessing these zones, not many will be around WW.

I don't doubt NoS will drop. But it will retain its value as a twink item. Plus there are SO many 60 mains and Alts who will be jumping over each other trying to get the dragon talismans. It will take many months for it to calm down. And for the 6s it will probably take longer. Expect a BDA Tranix strategy to be employed on some of the 6 dragons.

[Atmas]

I guess I have a different impression of how bottlenecky some things will really be, particularly the CS key. Alas, as has been stated no one really knows.

[Rayzor84]

Is it safe to say that any sale items sitting in the bank should be sold asap? Specifically adamantite club and ikky bp.

[Andurian]

Velks quickly replaced Seb for most of my server for the 50-60 grind iirc. It has a lot less loot but location location location.

[Erati]

Is it safe to say that any sale items sitting in the bank should be sold asap? Specifically adamantite club and ikky bp.

not sure on Addy club - it still should be useful for monks who want to tank things

Ikky BP- I dont believe Velious has a bunch of new sources for melee regen items

So Ikky BP and Fungi tunic still have plenty value - Ikky BP may even go up bc who wants to continue to farm it !

[Rayzor84]

not sure on Addy club - it still should be useful for monks who want to tank things

Ikky BP- I dont believe Velious has a bunch of new sources for melee regen items

So Ikky BP and Fungi tunic still have plenty value - Ikky BP may even go up bc who wants to continue to farm it !

Awesome thanks

[Daldaen]

Only Tradeable Regen item for Melee will be the Belt of the Great Turtle (2) from Lodizal.

You could in theory MQ things like the Chardok multi slot and some Dozekar pieces but you will need faction and huge amounts of money and at that point you'd already have a fungi.

I don't really think too many items prices will change other than high end stuff. Haste may become cheaper due to the Silver Chitin (which don't have their classic stats right now, must ClassicQuest this) and Orc Fang Earrings.

The items that will take the biggest hits will be things like Donals BPs or VS Greaves that stop being BIS and don't have Clickies that are useful (those like the SK greaves will remain expensive). Also lots of Jewelry becomes less good. Platinum Diamond/Jacinth rings are both replaced in Velious with Velium. Resist Wrists are all obsoleted by Velium Blue Diamond Wrists one month in.

Lots of stuff becomes no drop/quested that is good so you can't really buy that stuff out of the gate. A year into Velious I expect to see loot rights and MQs sold to many things but outright plat won't get you that far IMO.

[Samoht]

a lot of people will be replacing fungi with vindi bp, though

specially shamans

[loramin]

a lot of people will be replacing fungi with vindi bp, though

specially shamans

It seems like the Vindi BP (http://wiki.project1999.com/Chestplate_of_Vindication) only has Aura of Battle (2 HP a tick), compared to the Fungal Tunic's regrowth which gives 15 HP a tick. That hardly seems like much of a "replacement to me", but you're not the first person to mention it.

What am I missing? The only thing I can think of is that Shaman with Torpor don't care about regen, and the Vindi BP is desired because of its stats and not its regen. But then if that's the case why do people always talk about Vindi BP replacing Fungal; shouldn't they be talking about it replacing other (non-regen) BPs?

[curtischoy]

But then if that's the case why do people always talk about Vindi BP replacing Fungal; shouldn't they be talking about it replacing other (non-regen) BPs?

I think that they are assuming that most 60 shaman use a fungi (I guess not thinknig about torp), thus it would be the BP being replaced.

[Daldaen]

Unless you're solo tanking something hard and you need the HP/AC on a Vindi BP. Or in a resist fight and you need those tesists.

The regen on a fungi is still going to benefit a shaman more in a typical group or raid trash clear situation because it equates to more mana a tick without having to cast Torpor.

[mr_jon3s]

Well if your a shaman with torpor vindi is great. Also price of torpor should drop with all the mobs that can drop 60 spells.

[ArumTP]

Counterpoint,

A shaman has topor, why bother with fungi? I still feel that fungi going to drop because nobody is going to have time for alts when we are effectively re-gearing our mains, and may need piles of cash as a result.

NoS I agree is destined to be a twink item. The dragons are easy. The worse talismans aren't so much worse that its worth paying piles of plat for the minor difference.

Stat-less kunark armor will continue to tank in price, it will have to have a really useful click (FD, shrink) to have any use at all.

Only Djarn ring, fingerbone hoop, band of eternal flame, gem encrusted ring, and earring of essence remain good jewlery.

[Erati]

Velium Fire Wedding Rings say hello Mr Djarn Ring

[Daldaen]

Well if your a shaman with torpor vindi is great. Also price of torpor should drop with all the mobs that can drop 60 spells.

Torpor becomes FAR more expensive is what you mean to say.

Velious mobs only drop Velious spells. Aegolism, Protection of the Glades. Etc.

Rare Kunark spells become even more rare since less people will be in Kunark killing the mobs that drop them.

[dafier]

OH my...I forgot about the Skyshrine clicky in to CS....what a pain.

Wait....isn't there a clicky in Waking Lands in to CS? EDIT: Just looked at the map. Skyshrine is off of Wakeing Lands, which leads to CS clicky port in.

Also, where are the boats that travel to Velious? I don't recall where you catch them from.

[Ele]

OH my...I forgot about the Skyshrine clicky in to CS....what a pain.

Wait....isn't there a clicky in Waking Lands in to CS?

Also, where are the boats that travel to Velious? I don't recall where you catch them from.

Ferry from NRO to Iceclad rest island, then get on the bigger boat on the other side of the island to go all the way to the main Iceclad islands.

There is a port to Great Divide, Wakening Land, and Cobalt Scar, but you must travel to the portal ring and pick up the tooth to be able to be ported there.

[Boognishe]

Also, where are the boats that travel to Velious? I don't recall where you catch them from.

Dock in North Ro.

[Ele]

Torpor becomes FAR more expensive is what you mean to say.

Velious mobs only drop Velious spells. Aegolism, Protection of the Glades. Etc.

Rare Kunark spells become even more rare since less people will be in Kunark killing the mobs that drop them.

Seems like some dragons (only one named in the thread is Sont) can drop level 60 Kunark spells.

The thread is from the end of Velious (start of Luclin), but these clerics are mad about expansion exclusive spell drops! :mad:

http://www.eqclerics.org/forums/showthread.php?t=4546

It does highlight the itemization problem of expansion spells!

[dafier]

Thanks for the answers! GD tooth won't be bad. WL will suck especially if the dragon is up...need to avoid him like the plague at first and CS is....ugh, that one sucks in general.

Don't you need to build faction with SS before even attempting the CS key quest?

[arsenalpow]

Wuoshi should be dead the second a raid force hits WL so that shouldn't be an issue.

[Sadre Spinegnawer]

hold off on buying that spare set of +hp rings

[Erydan Ouragan]

Wuoshi should be dead the second a raid force hits WL so that shouldn't be an issue.

Well that depends, will Wuoshi be part of the rotation or will be FFA?

For that matter, will the class C/R/FFA system be applied to Velious raid targets?

[Daldaen]

Remove class system and do frequent simulated Repops. Enough mobs will allow everyone to get shots at all varieties of mobs.

[Pint]

donals bp still pretty rockin in velious, im sure some broke clerics will pawn their bps though. kind of assume they'll still sit 200+

[Daldaen]

I would tend to say they will drop to 100k and hover there due to stats and 7.5min recharge CH.

[Pint]

I would tend to say they will drop to 100k and hover there due to stats and 7.5min recharge CH.

stats dont seem to relevant on an inventory click, im not sure how many clerics have been doing group content on beta but my bp has been invaluable. i know most ppl like to horde them coins though.

[Calibretto]

Soon as the servers go live RUN to the Skyshrine area where the mob who drops the key to Cobalt Scar is. Thats where all the acne wearers will be for the first 300 hours.

[SniGlas]

U stole my druids name!

[raff01]

Vindi and pretty much anything in Kael Arena will be perma camped, so will Rygorr camps...

[Nuggie]

If your feels are sensitive I would hide in kunark for 2-3 months while the goldlust wears off. People are going to be acting awful for the first little while. you could try and find a nice quiet spot to farm gems and sell them for the highest possible price to the tunnel fat cats Dald mentioned earlier.

[L4m3st0n3]

I was talking to a monk and they were building up crafting skills for release of vel. What will you need to craft? Is that just for the Regen/Dmg Shield ring? Or something else? I don't remember having to do any crafting and I think i had the 8th ring.

[Erydan Ouragan]

I was talking to a monk and they were building up crafting skills for release of vel. What will you need to craft? Is that just for the Regen/Dmg Shield ring? Or something else? I don't remember having to do any crafting and I think i had the 8th ring.

Coldain prayer shawl.

[Thulack]

I was talking to a monk and they were building up crafting skills for release of vel. What will you need to craft? Is that just for the Regen/Dmg Shield ring? Or something else? I don't remember having to do any crafting and I think i had the 8th ring.

Monks and any other melee class will want to have their tailoring and smithing around 50 for the Coldain Ring quest.

[Kowalski]

Lodizal drops in Iceclad plus the quest items associated with it, i.e. Lodizal Shell Shield http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?item=4061 and Eyepatch of Plunder http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?item=4431

[Cranky]

Lodizal drops in Iceclad plus the quest items associated with it, i.e. Lodizal Shell Shield http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?item=4061 and Eyepatch of Plunder http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?item=4431

Lodizal will be the cause of much strife as Guild A will end up owning it and Guilds B to Z will endlessly cry about that fact.

[Ele]

Lodizal will be the cause of much strife as Shaman A will end up owning it and Shamen B to Z will endlessly cry about that fact.

FTFY

[Kileras]

moral of the story: Hide because all the poopsockers gunna make it shit for you?

Is that really i should pull out of this thread?

other things that were helpfully noted:
FBSS and other haste items going to go down in price because of SCHW, and maybe plunder patch?
Ry'gorr gear is good and drops frequently (especially earring).
+hp rings won't be worth as much/don't buy them right now because the velious era ones are better.
Look into tailoring/brewing for coldain ring quests

[Erati]

damn with 22% haste on the handwraps the Sash of Dragonborn is gonna go down the tubes

the FBSS due to the ease of access should still have decent value and still most likely be the initial haste item for noobs starting out

[emdubwubwub]

What are the differences between the three major factions?

What content will be limited if I choose one over the other?

What items will I miss out on if I don't want to regrind faction to access gear from the different quest givers?

Is the choice of which faction different for different classes?

[Ele]

What are the differences between the three major factions?

What content will be limited if I choose one over the other?

What items will I miss out on if I don't want to regrind faction to access gear from the different quest givers?

Is the choice of which faction different for different classes?


Anyone can be on any faction. It just takes faction grinding or doing turn in quests to raise it.

Everyone starts out KOS to Claws of Veeshan (Skyshrine)
Everyone, but Rallos Zek warriors, start out KOS to Kromriff/zek (Kael). (Giants have two related factions, one fights the dwarves the other fights the dragons)
Everyone starts out non-kos to Coldain (Thurgadin).

Each faction has its own set of quest armor. Thurg has the least amount of stats. Kael is focused more on HP/AC. Skyshrine armor focuses on Mana/Resists. You can even forgo the quests and get comparable Thurgadin armor from Plane of Growth raids.

The consensus usually goes with Skyshrine dragon quest armor as being the best over all, but maintaining a dragon faction guild cuts a lot of content out if you don't have alts to take the faction hits or do significant giant killing to fix it.

If you don't care about quest armor or already have what you want, then faction just means safer travel.

[emdubwubwub]

What are the downsides of raiding in the Plane of Growth?

It seems like there are unique items from the dorfs, Coldain Prayer Shawl and the Ring quest. Are there similar quests for the other factions?

[Samoht]

What are the downsides of raiding in the Plane of Growth?

KoS to felwith/kelethin

It seems like there are unique items from the dorfs, Coldain Prayer Shawl and the Ring quest. Are there similar quests for the other factions?

yes. every faction leader will have a head you can turn in to the opposing faction for prizes. belt of dorf slaying. gauntlets of dargon slaying. tormax head gives three rewards. similarly, there's the bracers of benevolence quest from skyshrine that gives different rewards that you turn back in until you get the one you most desire.

there are quests in ToV.

but you also have to have faction to do the armour quests.

[L4m3st0n3]

For anyone who cares - Here is a spreadsheet (https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0B5skacpAcPeJflRXWWFiUUZSMDg0T1FoaHJ EQlZHa0xZVEIzcjh3bkxlSFV4UTNKRFBjMzA&usp=sharing) and picture comparing the monk armor sets.

All a monk really needs is the Wrist Wraps from any of them for Pouch of Quellious!

[dafier]

KoS to felwith/kelethin



Not ALL of Felwithe/Kelethin. But you'll have to watch out....big time.

[emdubwubwub]

I read on a different forum that there is a change the bonus damage for two handed weapons. Can anyone clarify what the changes are and how that might effect weapon selection for a monk pre-Epic.

I'm rocking Jade Mace / Stave of Shielding right now and was thinking about moving up to Adamantite Club / Stave of Shielding, but if the two hand damage bonus is significant I might be better off with a Peacebringer.

[stifling]

There should be an incremental change to damage bonus that works above level 50 and is made on weapon delay. Basically the slower the weapon the higher the bonus, so tantor's tusk at 50/60 should be crazy. I do not know when this change will occur though. I vote to make it happen right away along with hybrid exp penalty being lifted, get more of those nights out there to help out the exp groups.

[maskedmelon]

There should be an incremental change to damage bonus that works above level 50 and is made on weapon delay. Basically the slower the weapon the higher the bonus, so tantor's tusk at 50/60 should be crazy. I do not know when this change will occur though. I vote to make it happen right away along with hybrid exp penalty being lifted, get more of those nights out there to help out the exp groups.

Hybrid XP patch occurs a couple months after launch and the weapon damage bonus patch occurs around 10 months after. Developers have already stated that they intend to follow actual timeline as closely as possible.

[Man0warr]

I read on a different forum that there is a change the bonus damage for two handed weapons. Can anyone clarify what the changes are and how that might effect weapon selection for a monk pre-Epic.

I'm rocking Jade Mace / Stave of Shielding right now and was thinking about moving up to Adamantite Club / Stave of Shielding, but if the two hand damage bonus is significant I might be better off with a Peacebringer.

The 2h re-balancing patch isn't until the "end" of the Velious timeline.

[Toodles]

Hybrid XP patch occurs a couple months after launch and the weapon damage bonus patch occurs around 10 months after. Developers have already stated that they intend to follow actual timeline as closely as possible.

Great, because that plan really worked out the first time, didn't it?

[webrunner5]

Giant Scalemail gear drops a lot in Kael. Decent stats but a bit on the heavy side whole set of it.

[HalflingWarrior]

Hybrid XP patch occurs a couple months after launch and the weapon damage bonus patch occurs around 10 months after. Developers have already stated that they intend to follow actual timeline as closely as possible.

Which is fucking retarded cuz ya know, 4 and a half fucking years in kunark

[joedirt87]

What is the starting faction for the Giants in Velious. Most people are saying you don't start KoS to the Dwarfs, but not sure about Giants or Dragons.

[Man0warr]

Unless you are a Zek worshiper I'm pretty sure you start KOS to both Giant factions, same for Veeshan worshipers and dragon faction.

[wormed]

Which is fucking retarded cuz ya know, 4 and a half fucking years in kunark

Yup. I'd say so.

[Swish]

Which is fucking retarded cuz ya know, 4 and a half fucking years in kunark

how ungrateful etc...think how many people would have missed the Kunark expansion era completely if we'd had an original timeline? I for one enjoyed Kunark (leveling particularly) a lot.

[wormed]

how ungrateful etc...think how many people would have missed the Kunark expansion era completely if we'd had an original timeline? I for one enjoyed Kunark (leveling particularly) a lot.

If you want to take that stance, then you could say that the recycle server would be soon as well and those new players would get to experience it as it should be.

:cool:

[Swish]

If you want to take that stance, then you could say that the recycle server would be soon as well and those new players would get to experience it as it should be.

:cool:

Yeah sure that's been announced now, but a lot of P99'ers joined during Kunark and they've had the time to level up in that era still being able to look forward to something concrete coming afterwards.

If you joined near the end of Velious or after the last Velious patch...wouldn't you feel less invested in the server's future?

I'd say the pop has at least doubled since Kunark launched, arguably at a more classic server pop it'll make Velious more interesting now.

[wormed]

Yeah sure that's been announced now, but a lot of P99'ers joined during Kunark and they've had the time to level up in that era still being able to look forward to something concrete coming afterwards.

If you joined near the end of Velious or after the last Velious patch...wouldn't you feel less invested in the server's future?

I'd say the pop has at least doubled since Kunark launched, arguably at a more classic server pop it'll make Velious more interesting now.

I'm not sure. I think that's an unfair assumption. I started just a few months ago and this server has been in Kunark for 4 years. I was more just enjoying playing EQ again, like I'm sure many people do who come to play here. If it was at Velious, I'd genuinely not have cared.

I think leveling up in the midst of Velious would still offer brand new players something concrete and the truth is, it may bring in a bigger population overall. EQ grew as it brought in more expansions, you could maybe assume that there are more people interested in the later expansions than just strictly vanilla/kunark days.

I'm more amped at the idea of a new Teams server, myself. :D

[wycca]

Unless you are a Zek worshiper I'm pretty sure you start KOS to both Giant factions, same for Veeshan worshipers and dragon faction.

Zek worshipers start dubious to Giants (at least, Kromzek/Kromrif).
Veeshan worshipers - ie veeshan bards - start kos to Dragons (but much closer than others to non-kos)

[Roguejm11]

Which is fucking retarded cuz ya know, 4 and a half fucking years in kunark

I also upvote that this is stupid.

4 years for Velious when the changes are probably already available.

VOTE FOR CHANGE!

[Roguejm11]

Hybrid XP patch occurs a couple months after launch and the weapon damage bonus patch occurs around 10 months after. Developers have already stated that they intend to follow actual timeline as closely as possible.

Worst idea ever. Please change this at release.

VOTE FOR CHANGE!

[webrunner5]

how ungrateful etc...think how many people would have missed the Kunark expansion era completely if we'd had an original timeline? I for one enjoyed Kunark (leveling particularly) a lot.

You have a good point, but it was at least twice as long as it should have been even for here. :eek: