The new bolts are useless

[ElemtalRZ]

Can honestly say I dont even use my bolts any more in pvp or pve they are utterly useless. They hit my pet 99% of the time and dont do anything, they hit other people in the group and dont do anything. Thanks for making a useless class even more useless :)

[Nirgon]

bolts had all kinds of problems on uneven ground, they get a massive range advantage to compensate

sounds classic

[Haynar]

Funny that u complain.

I remember bolts would hit ur own horse too, depending on ur size. I didnt play a mage til pop.

Bolts were situational. And were not just point and click.

H

[SamwiseRed]

i remember bolts randomly flying by me in oasis back in classic, sometimes hitting random shit on the way.

shits classic and glad its been fixed from the heat seeking missile it once was.

[Coffee]

I have 0 problems with current iteration of bolts, I think the increased speed and ability to chain cast them REALLY helps and buffs the spells. They are definitely situational; must have DD on bar also.

I wish we could get double bolts for free tho, cus thats real classic.

[Nirgon]

One thing I will definitely say about bolts is their range advantage gets hurt by Z-axis checks and levitate is crucial for casters in pvp

We're extremely hard pressed atm to find anything to bitch about that ain't classic

The once long pvp list has basically been reduced to:

- remove Z-axis from spell cast range/melee check
- bard dots still a little strong

And both are known issues that a dev that can get the job done is aware of

Couldn't be happier

[ElemtalRZ]

Bolts on classic had unlimited range. If your gonna add in the ability for bolts to run into trees and other players not in range, then lets be real and make it 100% classic. Give me my pet assist targeting key and give me my zone range bolts. I want to be able to zone in with my mage, pop a pet, /pet attack people in zone, and spam flare on them until I find were they are at. Thats classic.

[Coffee]

What do u mean unlimited range? after start of cast it's unlimited range on completion? Or it will chase someone for unlimited range?

Also flare is a straight line bolt, it does not chase target. From what i remember being a live mage flare was just like a projectile light source (was a blind-as-a-bat erudite, wtb classic vision mechanics)

Why do you keep using that spell in your comments?

Any prof?

[krazyGlue]

Fuck the bolts . Fix the pets mr

[Nirgon]

The zonewide pet assist would be great to have as it is very classic

Epic mage pet magic resist/runspeed buff too

Not 100% sure about flares but I know you could fire a bolt without a target and it would go insanely far

Another thing with the bolts is their little gbs graphic... Telin said he just needed one little thing to get to work on that (maybe he already has it and I don't know). It is a bitch at times to judge how to adjust firing a 2nd bolt after the first one fails.

[Haynar]

What do you mean by zonewide pet assist?

H

[Vayder]

I wish we could get double bolts for free tho, cus thats real classic.

Using the cliff in Cobalt Scar to fork bolts onto wyverns and drakes was good times.

[Nirgon]

What do you mean by zonewide pet assist?

H

Glad u asked sir

Basically if you do a /pet attack on someone it should try to attack but because of distance it doesn't run off after them

However, the threat list (or however it works behind the scenes) should be maintained and you can then /assist it for a target anywhere in zone.

This may just be as "simple" as making it possible to get an assist target zone wide. Which I am also relatively sure is classic... whether it is from a pet or not. I am certain about the assisting the pet functionality.

[Kringe]

Fuck the bolts . Fix the pets mr


To be honest this is very true..

You could MR buff a mage epic pet, and even in Velious my fully Vulak geared warrior could barely solo it... You could never snare/root the pet without first dispelling the Pet..


MR buff for the pets should be a must and the resist for them should be on par with players of the same resist (mr wise)

An epic Mage pet could solo an entire group of players level 60 not put in check.... However they are penalized by pets not zoning with them and having to have a buff class to MR their pet. The mage epic pet was one of if not the most feared thing in classic/ even velious..

[Nirgon]

Yah even with resist magic it gets rooted easily pmuch every time and loses velocity atm

Stats did more for NPCs. They had lower values with greater impact.

[ElemtalRZ]

In classic everquest the mage bolt lines which is the same mechanics as our flare spell would be zone wide, had unlimited range on them. You could get a target and cast it on someone all the way across the zone. Granted terrain would make the bolt disappear but it would point you in the right direction of them. You would use flare so you wouldnt waste a lot of mana to do this because you would have to cast it multiple times until you saw the person. Mages were the ninjas of classic everquest being able to snipe people at a orc camp from so far away in east commonlands that nobody in the group could see you was how it balanced everything out.

[dali_lb]

To be honest this is very true..

You could MR buff a mage epic pet, and even in Velious my fully Vulak geared warrior could barely solo it... You could never snare/root the pet without first dispelling the Pet..


MR buff for the pets should be a must and the resist for them should be on par with players of the same resist (mr wise)

An epic Mage pet could solo an entire group of players level 60 not put in check.... However they are penalized by pets not zoning with them and having to have a buff class to MR their pet. The mage epic pet was one of if not the most feared thing in classic/ even velious..

The resists are generally a big issue on emu servers. And pets is very off compared to classic live.
I remember 3 Mage Epic pets saving a Vulak raid after the last tank bid the grass.
Mainly because they were so resistant to just about everything when they were buffed with resist buffs.

[SamwiseRed]

In classic everquest the mage bolt lines which is the same mechanics as our flare spell would be zone wide, had unlimited range on them. You could get a target and cast it on someone all the way across the zone. Granted terrain would make the bolt disappear but it would point you in the right direction of them. You would use flare so you wouldnt waste a lot of mana to do this because you would have to cast it multiple times until you saw the person. Mages were the ninjas of classic everquest being able to snipe people at a orc camp from so far away in east commonlands that nobody in the group could see you was how it balanced everything out.

no

[Coffee]

bolt has a range value on lucy....

[evilkorn]

What do you mean by zonewide pet assist?

H

I think he is talking about this patch, where it was fixed:


/pet attack range has been limited to prevent its use as a targeting tool. Asking pets to attack targets outside the range will generate a "not a legal target" message.


http://www.tski.co.jp/baldio/patch/20020508.html

[Nirgon]

You could fire a bolt without a target and it would go insanely far but

lol @ being able to get a target and bolt them from everywhere in the zone, dat ain't true

It had very very long range but not anything close to infinite.. I leveled in North Karana on live and would pull griffawns etc from just within lightning bolt range

Dunno about flare, might be true for that one





Thx for prof link there Evilkorn pal

[derpcake]

I know using sorrowsong boots and then selo while the bolt traveled, it was good for hitting targets across the zone.

With an absolutely 100% clear LoS though, a fucking pebble would absorb the bolt.

[Bokke]

In classic everquest the mage bolt lines which is the same mechanics as our flare spell would be zone wide, had unlimited range on them. You could get a target and cast it on someone all the way across the zone. Granted terrain would make the bolt disappear but it would point you in the right direction of them. You would use flare so you wouldnt waste a lot of mana to do this because you would have to cast it multiple times until you saw the person. Mages were the ninjas of classic everquest being able to snipe people at a orc camp from so far away in east commonlands that nobody in the group could see you was how it balanced everything out.

I remember bolts being able to travel for a very far distance but I feel like I remember there being a LoS check at the beginning of the cast, granted it was long.
I kind of don't really remember though, Mage was my first character and I was young.

[Casey VII]

HAYNAR PLEASE, forget the bolts fix the pet resists

[Colgate]

mage epic pet should be relatively hard to CC, and when you put a resist magic buff on it, it should be borderline impossible

i believe it should be running slightly faster than it currently does

[Technique]

Patch Notes: Sunday, July 14th, 2013 (http://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=114944)

Sundawg: Magician Epic Pets will no longer enrage at low health. Minor changes to runspeed and magic resistance.The enrage fix obviously went in, but there was no change to runspeed and it doesn't seem MR was changed either.

[SamwiseRed]

mage epic pet should be relatively hard to CC, and when you put a resist magic buff on it, it should be borderline impossible

i believe it should be running slightly faster than it currently does

where is the proof tho? seriously asking.

[Casey VII]

Look man, not everything was documented. Not everything in the entire game was put into the form of a patch note. I don't have a patch note for my two dads but I love them just the same and I fully recognize their union.

[Slathar]

it was easy to cc mage pets that had been tashed. without tash, you werent landing root.