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Psykes
10-06-2010, 11:06 AM
Soooo forum mod Secrets started his server, its rockin...not much of a community yet but its fun thus far. Concept, FFA PvP, you die you start back at level 1....corpses can be looted by anyone you lose everythign unless you get back to it in time.

Group bonus xp is in effect, leveling is pretty nice considering the loss of levels when you die, CLASSIC, KUNARK and VELIOUS only, level cap 60...Custom Content includes taking Keeps, and controllign lands as a guild. You cant kill guild or group mates, or heal people outside group..

These are just a few of the cool things, server is called MortalQuest, hope to see some of ya

Tumdumm
10-06-2010, 11:07 AM
do you need a seperate installation folder from the one we use here?

Yoite
10-06-2010, 11:23 AM
probably a separate spell file at least.

Psykes
10-06-2010, 11:23 AM
my spell file is working fine...there are some bugs...uses /ooc for IRC chat across server and GM is there most of the time....report bugs to Secrets, we have found some already

Messianic
10-06-2010, 11:30 AM
I don't see the point if dying negates all the effort you put in up to that point =/ Maybe super-severe penalties for dying or something...You can't take risks.

To each their own...

ryuut1
10-06-2010, 11:37 AM
so everyone is a necro?

Psykes
10-06-2010, 11:51 AM
the piotn of a perma death server is to have fun...realize you have to work together and know what your doing and what you can do....also if you get a bad rep good luck not getting shanked....and Griefing is not a good idea either

ShivanAngel
10-06-2010, 11:59 AM
I dont care how die hard you are on not griefing, If you see someone at 5% HP you know your going to finish them off.

nalkin
10-06-2010, 12:32 PM
It sounds a lot more fun than this server, ie there will actually be things to do, so I think im going to try it. But max level is 60? I thought it was 25?

Hodge
10-06-2010, 02:22 PM
how fast is it to level.. (like the EZ Server?).

Psykes
10-06-2010, 03:24 PM
leveling is pretty fast, but the danger lies if you get cocky...there is a bonus for grouping with others and playing nice, so thats always a good thing...

New thing added is Keeps, you can take a keep for your guild and get the bonus's of buffs etc, admin is adding different fun things like that

Gawain
10-06-2010, 03:27 PM
I dont care how die hard you are on not griefing, If you see someone at 5% HP you know your going to finish them off.

Id be a cleric and knock them down in my group one by one.

Messianic
10-06-2010, 03:30 PM
Id be a cleric and knock them down in my group one by one.

lol

Taluvill
10-06-2010, 03:38 PM
This sounds sooooo dope. I may be there

Taluvill
10-06-2010, 03:38 PM
Also, sounds a lot like Darkfall.

ooantipostoo
10-06-2010, 03:45 PM
lol

Cleric would be a really good idea on this server. You also have two DA's to make a get-away and zone plug.

Messianic
10-06-2010, 03:52 PM
Cleric would be a really good idea on this server. You also have two DA's to make a get-away and zone plug.

True dat

Psykes
10-06-2010, 03:58 PM
you cant kill group members or guild members...but if your grouped with a total RATARD...kick him and cannibalize

Taluvill
10-06-2010, 04:59 PM
Seems cool so far. Was scary as shit when Fippy ran through the Qeynos gates lol. Guards dont attack anywhere, and everywhere is PvP except for South Qeynos. Like I almost killed this ranger with my monk next to the guards. its dope.

Lyssia
10-06-2010, 06:06 PM
Wow sounds like something fun to do until the Kunark launch here!

yaaaflow
10-06-2010, 06:43 PM
I had a level 14 necro but then I decided to kill pyzjin and get myself a GBS and I ended up getting ganked by some dude at the end of my fight :( I had like 100pp too, hope whoever got me enjoys it

Slade_the_Slide
10-06-2010, 07:56 PM
Sounds like a fun server, I'ma hafta try this out.

Scrooge
10-06-2010, 08:21 PM
But max level is 60? I thought it was 25?

It was changed last night since more people started showing interest.

citizen1080
10-06-2010, 08:36 PM
While I doubt they mind too much kinda rude to talk about another server here..would be like being balls deep and then talking about how hot another girl is

JayDee
10-06-2010, 10:19 PM
The stupid part is no level range for pvp ie a level 30 wizard can come pop a full group of level 15s in one aoe.

JayDee
10-06-2010, 10:22 PM
Should be a 8-10 level range or so imo

Otherwise you could see level 60s farming mid level zones and killing everyones will to play

nalkin
10-06-2010, 10:41 PM
eh the level 60 killed it for me tbh. Level 25 max sounded sweet cause if you lost it, ehh it sucks but its not enough to make you quit. If i lost 60 levels id quit... unless the xp rate is like 5x normal?

Also, the level 25 max was another option to solve above post about high levels farming mid level zones.

Scrooge
10-06-2010, 10:51 PM
unless the xp rate is like 5x normal?


It is, heh.

KilyenaMage
10-06-2010, 10:56 PM
Cleric would be a really good idea on this server. You also have two DA's to make a get-away and zone plug.

Depending on the available gear (MR gear specifically) they may also be good nukers; especially at lower-mid levels.

Caravelle1
10-07-2010, 03:56 AM
I had a level 14 necro but then I decided to kill pyzjin and get myself a GBS and I ended up getting ganked by some dude at the end of my fight :( I had like 100pp too, hope whoever got me enjoys it

you didnt have a GBS lol

Haish
10-07-2010, 12:39 PM
server down? dont see it

yaeger
10-07-2010, 12:40 PM
Think so.. man I had a blast on there last night.

krforrester
10-07-2010, 03:20 PM
Don't see the server listed.

Slade_the_Slide
10-07-2010, 03:37 PM
I enjoyed it. But one thing that was kind of 50/50 for me was the fact that no mobs aggro you.

Now, I can see the advantage of this. I had a level 1 gnome exploring Permafrost last night. Also I know the focus is on player vs. player and not player vs environment.

But also, I dunno it just kinda felt odd and there was no sense of danger other than the big burly trolls trying to gank me while I recovered some lost levels.

It has great potential though. I'm not a PvPer but I had fun!

yaeger
10-07-2010, 04:01 PM
I ran over to Kunark and got all giddy.

Brut
10-07-2010, 04:10 PM
More likely to die to PvE than PvP far as I could tell. The mobs melee dmg output is insane, so only casters can really survive on lvling up. =p
Only time I ran into any proper PvP there was when some assling snared me and sat around probably memorizing spells or something, at which point I blinded him and he scooted to zoneline. Anticlimatic!

And scavenged some long dead vah shirs golds and rations and water flasks.

Mountaineer
10-07-2010, 04:32 PM
Thought it was kunark/velious only...how were there Vah Shirs then?

Twin
10-07-2010, 05:28 PM
There's Frogloks in that bitch.

I think all the expansions save for Planes of Power are in there.

yaaaflow
10-07-2010, 05:43 PM
you didnt have a GBS lol

when did I say I had a gbs?

Scrooge
10-07-2010, 11:28 PM
There's Frogloks in that bitch.

I think all the expansions save for Planes of Power are in there.

Just the original trilogy, but all classes and races are unlocked.

Lazortag
10-08-2010, 12:47 AM
It's very fun, but should probably have its own website, since this is p99 and all.

Gweed
10-08-2010, 01:27 AM
Secrets just posted over on the emulator forums that he is taking it down, apparently people bitch to much

http://www.eqemulator.org/forums/showthread.php?t=32193&page=4

Shaun421
10-08-2010, 01:52 AM
I missed the server by 30 minutes!!! I was looking forward to playing this all week, and I get home 30 minutes too late.

Secrets you gotta bring it back up.

sox7d
10-08-2010, 02:15 AM
encore! encore! encore! we loved it and want more of it! just ignore the babies!

Brut
10-08-2010, 03:03 AM
Considering it was alpha+beta I'd think folks would be eager to provide feedback... Unless the whining means someone's going "waaaaaaaaaa I couldn't solo 4 reds and died!!! give lvl + gear back wtf!!!!!!!!!!". ><

Hope it'll come back, I called in sick too yesterday to play thar and then it went down. Just got my last pieces for newbie set, too, and was gonna go collect crude ores. =p

mimixownzall
10-08-2010, 04:15 AM
SZ was clearly the best server ever... Why not just make one?

Would be interesting to see how popular it got.

liveitup1216
10-08-2010, 04:52 AM
SZ was clearly the best server ever... Why not just make one?

Would be interesting to see how popular it got.

I approve this message.

Slade_the_Slide
10-08-2010, 08:18 AM
SZ was clearly the best server ever... Why not just make one?

Would be interesting to see how popular it got.

:cool:

Danien
10-08-2010, 08:28 AM
This server has been a ton of fun so far, though I went a little emo after a whole day of dying and then lvling to 30 on my nec before I died to some mobs who happened to be fucking überfast ( Two named centaurs you turn in crafted armor to in sk).

I turned my box-life around and lvled up again though! Will be sad if this goes, it's just a lot more fun to play when there's so much more on the line. I personally think its a little much with perma-death but still think there should be a severe loss (All equipment is fine, maybe only 20% of all your earned levels lost though), but I'd play either way.

It was looking out to be a fun PvP server, there just aren't many of those going around these days.

Lazortag
10-08-2010, 09:19 AM
The problem was that EVERYONE was giving completely mutually exclusive suggestions as to how the server should be and thinking as if their ideas were obviously correct. People came to the server knowing it was permadeath so at least that's something everyone's okay with. Honestly in the fucking alpha stages of a project, you should really restrict your bitching to bug reports, not stupid suggestions.

I'm not thrilled about secrets taking down the server but I don't blame him.

Danien
10-08-2010, 09:35 AM
The problem was that EVERYONE was giving completely mutually exclusive suggestions as to how the server should be and thinking as if their ideas were obviously correct. People came to the server knowing it was permadeath so at least that's something everyone's okay with. Honestly in the fucking alpha stages of a project, you should really restrict your bitching to bug reports, not stupid suggestions.

I'm not thrilled about secrets taking down the server but I don't blame him.

Well he did encourage people for feedback when he asked things in ooc and people started discussing how they wanted it (Not a bad thing imo), here he could just be the judge and take whatever he likes and implement it.

Sure there are people who will rant in different directions, but if you don't like what they're saying simply ignore them. Of course not everyone will be happy in the end but you need to expect and be able to handle that.

Yoite
10-08-2010, 10:25 AM
i hope it comes back, it was so much fun and EXCITING! you could say i "wasted" away a few hours playing there, i think the highest i got was 6, died several times but it didn't seem to discourage me. I logged off back at lvl 1 but at least with my gear i had collected. i was looking forward to logging in again and giving it another go to see how high lvl i could get before i died be it to pvp or pve. It didn't seem like a waste due to the fun i had while playing. very exciting indeed.

Scrooge
10-08-2010, 03:43 PM
Nothing beats finding a random corpse of a Mage with summoned items on it, all ready for you to loot!

Zithax
10-08-2010, 04:40 PM
Considering the whole project itself is in alpha, including design concepts, I think people are right to offer suggestions on the future progression of a server that is spontaneously being built as secrets said "minecrafting it".

Lazortag
10-08-2010, 04:47 PM
Honestly the server was full of people who wanted regular pvp and not discord (permadeath) pvp, so their suggestions were worthless anyway. There was definitely way too much bitching, especially after secrets would clearly say "no, this is how it's going to be", that just wasn't enough for some people. It was actually stressful just playing it and having to read people constantly ooc-ing their dissatisfaction with a server that they curiously still played on.

Some people were giving honest, constructive suggestions, but far too many people were just whining and it was really making it difficult to enjoy the game without turning off ooc.

For example (on exp loss after death):

"it should be 25% of your exp bar"
"it should be 50% of all of your levels"
"it should be 5 levels"
"..."
etc.

These kinds of suggestions are all mutually exclusive and if Secrets were to pick one, he would piss off everyone who suggested something different. So rationally the only way to accommodate people was with the system he had based the server on from the beginning since that was what attracted players to it in the first place. That people couldn't realize something so unfathomably obvious and acted like fucking retards constantly blathering about why their vision for the server was so brilliant, was enough to almost make my head explode.

I really hope he brings it back, and maybe encourages people to donate (many would) to ease hosting costs and such.

Penoy Lives
10-08-2010, 04:51 PM
The purpose of the server was to replicate the Discord server with a few minor tweaks. So if you want normal PVP go to VZTZ. The Server was awesome!!!!!

Shaun421
10-08-2010, 04:51 PM
It sounds like Secrets is going to bring the server back online on a semi-permanent basis!! Yay!

Try not to be such jerks this time guys. Please.

Yoite
10-08-2010, 05:13 PM
ya i really enjoyed it BECAUSE it was prema death (well reset to lvl 1) you could still go get your body if you were quick and you died to pve. even in pvp sometimes people would be nice and not totally rape my noob loot i had collected so i could buy simple stuff like food water tiny dagger and such.

man it was awesome, im excited about it possibly coming back up. playing on that server gives you such a exciting feeling. dieing becomes everything, its awesome.

Yoite
10-08-2010, 05:14 PM
to recap, its exciting and awesome...lol

Yoite
10-08-2010, 05:22 PM
looks like its coming back

http://www.eqemulator.org/forums/showthread.php?p=192822#post192822

woot

Scrooge
10-08-2010, 05:43 PM
Yes it is, however, it will need some support as well.

Secrets
10-08-2010, 05:57 PM
It's coming back. Rogean offered to host it for me. He's a standup guy and requires a hell of a pat on the back. I'd buy him a beer if I was legal drinking age.

Mountaineer
10-08-2010, 06:26 PM
Can i get a Green color? I dont like having to dig for it within the white servers hehe

yaeger
10-08-2010, 06:26 PM
Can i get a Green color? I dont like having to dig for it within the white servers hehe

Silence!

Wimpy
10-08-2010, 06:31 PM
Thank god the servers coming back, i was REALLY upset when couldn't find it on the server list. I'm totally gonna make it past 13 on my shammy this time.

Kraftwerk
10-08-2010, 07:53 PM
So wait, what is the official name of the server? I want to know so I can keep an eye on the list for it. I am super pumped for a server like this, especially if there are a lot of people on it.

Wimpy
10-08-2010, 07:59 PM
Before, it was [MortalQuest] Early Alpha, but im not sure if it's the same.

Mountaineer
10-09-2010, 12:09 AM
It IS now a Green Server. Mortal Quest.

Stanlei
10-09-2010, 07:39 AM
Best server, EVER!

If you have any questions about it hit me with a pm I would love to help the population grow!

Lazortag
10-09-2010, 02:35 PM
Every time I try and log into my character I get "you have been disconnected". Am I banned or something?

edit: also it seems to only be happening on one character.

edit: now it's happening on all my characters.

Scrooge
10-09-2010, 03:09 PM
You must have a Chinese IP...

Lazortag
10-09-2010, 03:23 PM
I had disconnected on one character and then coincidentally disconnected on a new one I'd created as I was camping. This apparently causes the characters in question to be inaccessible for a few minutes. Either way, the issue resolved itself.

Lazortag
10-10-2010, 01:09 AM
So boyz in tha hood made its way onto the server, but I plan on infiltrating their guild (aka by pretending to be one of them) and fucking them over at some point. I suggest that others try to do the same, just to keep them on their toes.

Watch your backs, bitches.

Abacab niggah
10-10-2010, 06:03 AM
So boyz in tha hood made its way onto the server, but I plan on infiltrating their guild (aka by pretending to be one of them) and fucking them over at some point. I suggest that others try to do the same, just to keep them on their toes.

Watch your backs, bitches.

Lol

I'm sure while you're swinging at us with you Soft Wicker and Bronze Katanas we will steam roll you with our Kael gear

Abacab niggah
10-10-2010, 06:06 AM
The server is ok

The major problems that just make you facepalm:

- When you LD you stay in game for up to 15 minutes, long enough to get raped

- Skills don't match XP you can be level 55 and still have 25 points in defense or casting they need to be heightened ESPECIALLY since when you die they all reset to (1)

- Some mobs are just plain broke, SK/necro mobs especially, since a level 50 can get rolled by a green level 20 NPC since it chains fear2 over and over and over

Secrets
10-10-2010, 06:32 AM
- Skills don't match XP you can be level 55 and still have 25 points in defense or casting they need to be heightened ESPECIALLY since when you die they all reset to (1)

- Some mobs are just plain broke, SK/necro mobs especially, since a level 50 can get rolled by a green level 20 NPC since it chains fear2 over and over and over

these two issues are getting fixed soonish

Lazortag
10-10-2010, 11:09 AM
What about the linkdead issue? Is that fixable? Or is it intended to be that way?

Also, server's down as of: now. :( Is there a place we can go to see expected downtimes?

sox7d
10-10-2010, 12:45 PM
these two issues are getting fixed soonish

awesome, you're the best, secrets squirrel!

Humerox
10-10-2010, 02:45 PM
SZ was clearly the best server ever... Why not just make one?

Would be interesting to see how popular it got.

I know I'd be there. :)

Lazortag
10-10-2010, 04:20 PM
Now as secrets is surely aware, nothing seems to be working (aka weapons are doing 1 damage, mobs are regenning too fast, etc.). oh well, it's just one of those days. I guess I'll have to do homework or something.

Abacab niggah
10-10-2010, 04:38 PM
The latest changes are just gutwrenching...

Everyone has the same gear, the same spells, the same levels.

I was very content with farming kael nightly, collecting corroded and turning it in for armor (Hell, everyone else in their 40's had leather and shit, I was rocking clickies) the XP in that zone would've shot me up to 60 within an hour or two today.

I was planning to get the rest of my armor then go do Luez's task and various other velious quests but now that the server is capped at 20 I can't be the best no more.

xshayla701
10-10-2010, 05:26 PM
So wait, what is the official name of the server? I want to know so I can keep an eye on the list for it. I am super pumped for a server like this, especially if there are a lot of people on it.

YOU

yaaaflow
10-10-2010, 05:53 PM
oh wow if this is level 20 cap i just got interested in it again. fuck the haters to that change, this server should be about the pvp not running off to kunark and velious and farming gear on a server where the pve was intentionally made super simple.

Now if only there was a way to take care of the cheating :\

Zithax
10-10-2010, 06:57 PM
WHERE IS MY GBS?

what the hell happened to this server overnight yall?

Slade_the_Slide
10-10-2010, 07:49 PM
Zone in, get camped

Zithax
10-10-2010, 08:25 PM
Wow switched back already?

I think a low lvl cap would be a superb idea. maybe alter all zones to mobs in the lvl 20-30 range, with like lvl 35 raid mobs, but take that stupid npc that sold gear out. leave exp the way it is, fast, so it only takes an hour or two to hit max lvl. I think this server can be something unique just molded a little differently than it is now.

should also implement AA's and make pvp give aaxp, and pve give regular xp. aa's are permanent staple to your char. dying in pvp could be -aaxp, or -1 aa. do it!

Kraftwerk
10-11-2010, 12:16 AM
YOU

Me?

Scrooge
10-11-2010, 01:30 AM
I wish everyone else saw it that way too, yaaaflow.

yaaaflow
10-11-2010, 06:54 AM
btw abacab are you really bragging about farming kael gear on a server where the pve encounters have been made ridiculously easy so that the game can focus on pvp? grats bro.

can someone tell me how the keep system works? I joined some random guild that had control of one and I got some crazy buffs for a while, but I never figured out how you actually gain control of it or whatever.

RKromwell
10-11-2010, 07:09 AM
Zone in, get camped


I gave it a shot. Got to level three before a dark elf mage ganked me in the middle of Qeynos.

nalkin
10-11-2010, 10:03 AM
I took a hit yesterday and it hurt. Had to ragequit for a while. Needless to say I won't be trying to kill and red con nameds anymore.

And why do we fall, Bruce? So we can learn to pick ourselves up.

Lazortag
10-11-2010, 01:02 PM
The server is at some later stage in EQ where spells were made much more powerful than in classic, so casters around level 20 can kill people their level way too easily. I admit it's still fun, but kind of lame still.

nalkin
10-11-2010, 01:12 PM
The server is at some later stage in EQ where spells were made much more powerful than in classic, so casters around level 20 can kill people their level way too easily. I admit it's still fun, but kind of lame still.

ever heard of MR geegoo?

Lazortag
10-11-2010, 01:22 PM
ever heard of MR geegoo?

that barely solves for the problems I mentioned.

I honestly think they should just make it so that pets don't zone with you, since a necro can just chase you across the zone line and keep on killing you with their overpowered pets (in fact they can attack you before you can even do anything since you zone-in a second or so before it registers on your computer).

nalkin
10-11-2010, 01:32 PM
what class are you playing? (just curious)

Lazortag
10-11-2010, 01:54 PM
what class are you playing? (just curious)

I've been playing a Bard. I actually zoned in somewhere and within a few seconds lost about half my health and got engulfing darkness on me. I didn't have time to mez or shadowstep or anything. Naturally I tried zoning but the pet kept getting me as I zoned. Also, the necro was blue to me, which is what makes it kind of silly.

Beebo11
10-11-2010, 02:23 PM
Just quit hatin' yo

Lazortag
10-11-2010, 02:35 PM
Just quit hatin' yo

like all of the rage quitters I'll probably just go back to playing it again today. It's weirdly addictive.

nalkin
10-11-2010, 03:45 PM
like all of the rage quitters I'll probably just go back to playing it again today. It's weirdly addictive.

Lol yah it is. I died at 46 yesterday as I got cocky and tried some nameds. After thinking to myself I would quit for anything above 30 I was back at it after a couple hours of being rage quitted.

The only thing i wish is that there were some universal peace sign, like if you zone into a place with someone else, or if you see someone in the distance you could /wave and it would mean "Im not here to kill you".

Slade_the_Slide
10-11-2010, 05:00 PM
Lol yah it is. I died at 46 yesterday as I got cocky and tried some nameds. After thinking to myself I would quit for anything above 30 I was back at it after a couple hours of being rage quitted.

The only thing i wish is that there were some universal peace sign, like if you zone into a place with someone else, or if you see someone in the distance you could /wave and it would mean "Im not here to kill you".

I actually used that signal to show I was friendly to people. Got some good groups that way. But I can see griefers taking advantage of it to trick someone.

Zithax
10-11-2010, 07:08 PM
yo abacab where's my g invite bro?

yall got my boy vhex but not me? i didnt think you guys were jealous of my title too bro ...

Abacab niggah
10-13-2010, 02:02 AM
btw abacab are you really bragging about farming kael gear on a server where the pve encounters have been made ridiculously easy so that the game can focus on pvp? grats bro.

can someone tell me how the keep system works? I joined some random guild that had control of one and I got some crazy buffs for a while, but I never figured out how you actually gain control of it or whatever.

All Kael armor is clickable at level 1

Which means as a Cleric I can spam 800 pt AoE heals and attach 20 pt damage shields on people which is pretty baller on a server where if you die you go back to level 1.

So it is a big accomplishment because it is hands down the best gear in the game you can get, aside from mages summoning their epics.

Abacab niggah
10-13-2010, 02:04 AM
Sad thing is I lost my clickie pants to faggy mages that 5v1 you cause they're pretty pro at pvp ya know what I mean?

The rampant MQ abuse, the OP spells and the broke /who all function makes it rather retarded for a strictly pvp server, especially since all mobs are indifferent and you can't train in recourse or use KoS mobs as buffers between you and some MQ warping mages.

Thelastaxi
10-13-2010, 05:26 AM
Sad thing is I lost my clickie pants to faggy mages that 5v1 you cause they're pretty pro at pvp ya know what I mean?

The rampant MQ abuse, the OP spells and the broke /who all function makes it rather retarded for a strictly pvp server, especially since all mobs are indifferent and you can't train in recourse or use KoS mobs as buffers between you and some MQ warping mages.

I agree thats kinda bad, the mobs not aggroing. Part of the reason why it was funny to play WoW pvp was that some people were really bad at knowing when to engage. I would just sit near a bunch of mobs near stratholme and priest fear anyone who attacked me into the nearby mobs and proceeded to kill 2-3 people.

I remember kiting quite a lot of people on Slate on Rallos Zek.

nalkin
10-13-2010, 10:14 AM
btw abacab are you really bragging about farming kael gear on a server where the pve encounters have been made ridiculously easy so that the game can focus on pvp? grats bro.

Ain't nothing trivial with permadeath. Couple that with the fact that you have basically no gear so that if you do one slight thing to mess up you are going down. Thinking about playing p99 again seems so easy in comparison. Also a lot more boring...

Nox
10-13-2010, 11:02 AM
Is a rogue a viable option, or do I need to pick something a little more, um, safe? Rogues are horrible at solo'ing so I cannot imagine they would be very effective in PvP.

yaeger
10-13-2010, 07:12 PM
No, melee suck bad on this server.

Scrooge
10-13-2010, 07:59 PM
Aw, don't say that yaeger, you got your ranger up pretty high the first few times no?

yaeger
10-13-2010, 08:41 PM
Yeah it was pretty brutal.

I just pulled for the casters, shot my bow for 10 damage every time I could, and was a snare bot. I had to run from everyone, even a lvl 10 necro could have ganked me.

Lazortag
10-13-2010, 09:03 PM
Sad thing is I lost my clickie pants to faggy mages that 5v1 you cause they're pretty pro at pvp ya know what I mean?

The rampant MQ abuse, the OP spells and the broke /who all function makes it rather retarded for a strictly pvp server, especially since all mobs are indifferent and you can't train in recourse or use KoS mobs as buffers between you and some MQ warping mages.

yeah when faction is fixed it'll be way better.

I just died because I ducked under a rock accidentally and couldn't cast - at least I have no one to blame but myself for it though!

Rogean
10-13-2010, 10:00 PM
We should throw the P99 Code in this server.. That'd be some stable shit.

Rogean
10-13-2010, 10:00 PM
And Database... o.O

Secrets
10-13-2010, 10:26 PM
We should throw the P99 Code in this server.. That'd be some stable shit.

And Database... o.O

I completely agree.

Shrubwise
10-13-2010, 11:47 PM
YES. Please

mimixownzall
10-14-2010, 10:08 PM
We should throw the P99 Code in this server.. That'd be some stable shit.

And Database... o.O


Don't tease me, bro!

Scrooge
10-14-2010, 10:42 PM
It'd make for some nice testing grounds...

yaeger
10-15-2010, 02:37 AM
What's the future of this server looking like? Any plans?

magic
10-15-2010, 03:50 AM
What's the future of this server looking like? Any plans?

The past looked like this:

Holocaust logs in and uses MQ to see where people are, and proceed to /zone and /warp to them. They grief lowbies until they quit the server.

The present looks like this:

Holocaust kills Boyz thanks to Rage of Zomm being extremely overpowered and continue to spam ooc with how they "won the server" and that anyone they have killed should feel bad, because they were slain by faggots that love sucking cock (Cast's words, not mine).

Cast, Lethdar, Solid, Giovanni (if you are reading this) - I knew some of you on VZTZ. I know many of the people that have played with you for long periods of time. You are good pvpers; You are hackers/exploiters. Its not hard to be good at a ten (eleven?) year old game. I am openly asking for your vent info again if you want to trash talk me with real words instead of text. Skype will suffice too, if you're not too embarrassed to show your faces.

Holocaust still has yet to kill Magic on any of his characters.

The future looks like this:

Holocaust will continue logging in and warping to people and killing them until Secrets opens his eyes and bans them. Population will dwindle around 10-20 at peak hours until people get tired of starting over because of 60s that do nothing but grief.

The changes that need to be made:

1a. Players do not reset to level 1 when dying to pve (until pve is fixed, or p99 code is implemented)
1b. Players lose 5 levels per death due to pve
2a. Can not pvp unless you are within range of their level (10 levels above/below)
2b. Can pvp anyone at any level, but will not lose levels unless you are within 10 levels of them
2c. Can pvp at any level but you only lose your gear (I personally vote for this one, as re-leveling constantly significantly reduces the amount of active pvp on the server)
3. Tradeskills do NOT reset under ANY circumstances (why is there no character permanence feeling in any way, shape, or form here? this isn't diablo2)


This is the first time I've played EQ in months and am actually having fun. I enjoy it here, but the current rule set is not very inviting to new players.

Bushwick
10-15-2010, 04:51 AM
The changes that need to be made:

1a. Players do not reset to level 1 when dying to pve (until pve is fixed, or p99 code is implemented)
1b. Players lose 5 levels per death due to pve
2a. Can not pvp unless you are within range of their level (10 levels above/below)
2b. Can pvp anyone at any level, but will not lose levels unless you are within 10 levels of them
2c. Can pvp at any level but you only lose your gear (I personally vote for this one, as re-leveling constantly significantly reduces the amount of active pvp on the server)
3. Tradeskills do NOT reset under ANY circumstances (why is there no character permanence feeling in any way, shape, or form here? this isn't diablo2)


This is the first time I've played EQ in months and am actually having fun. I enjoy it here, but the current rule set is not very inviting to new players.

Perhaps the PVE penalty could remain severe, but cleric resurrection could function to restore all or a portion of a the lost levels.

The rest of the impermanence seems crucial to what the server is about. A lower level cap might help reduce the trivialization that comes with being in the mid-levels.

Secrets
10-15-2010, 08:18 AM
All I know is half the issue was the database, half the issue was MQ2 accusations.

Everything else could have worked.

Shrubwise
10-15-2010, 09:15 AM
All I know is half the issue was the database, half the issue was MQ2 accusations.

Everything else could have worked.

Quoted for truth. I still think it'd have a fighting chance with the P1999 code and a few tweaks here and there. Another thought is disabling global OOC so new players don't have to see "sup bro", "u mad?", and "holocaust is hacking /wrist" as soon as they login.

Regardless, it was fun, and if a more stable version comes out I'd play again.

Zithax
10-15-2010, 10:22 AM
Agreed with the p99 db infusion idea imo.

Rogean
10-15-2010, 10:46 AM
P99 code would help with MQ2 issues too I'm just sayin

lethdar
10-15-2010, 11:13 AM
Wont have to worry about scary people coming to kill you now boyz. The removal of /who zones means its not worth playing on a server where you can literally never find pvp unless its at an agreed predetermined location. 130 zones for 30 people, half of which are in qeynos... yep there goes any action at all.

May as well remove the pvp aspect of it since all that remains are boyz sitting in north qeynos trying to pretend they're good at pvp by griefing newbs and duels.

Rogean
10-15-2010, 11:27 AM
Oh yea, I guess if we used p99 stuff, it would be restricted to classic only.

Zithax
10-15-2010, 12:33 PM
Should also throw the p99 kunark/velious progress in there too, so people can beta test it for the p99 players.

Ideally, this server should be a discord variated ruleset based on the p99 files tbh.

Secrets
10-15-2010, 02:18 PM
BAWW MY MQ2 MACRO DOESN'T WORK BAWWW

lethdar
10-15-2010, 03:01 PM
Uh, you guys know everquest has in game macros right? the things you used to do to make /assist bob or w/e.

Making a page of /who soldung all /who oot all /who butcher all /who velk all /who guk all was very hard and totally required the use of mq to do.

lethdar
10-15-2010, 03:05 PM
Ah i see this was addressed with screenshots on the eqemu forums. Link for your reading pleasure.

http://www.eqemulator.org/forums/showthread.php?t=32193&page=19

Giovanni
10-17-2010, 02:39 AM
The past looked like this:

I am openly asking for your vent info again if you want to trash talk me with real words instead of text. Skype will suffice too, if you're not too embarrassed to show your faces.

Holocaust still has yet to kill Magic on any of his characters.



You talk about yourself in the third person and keeping trying to get our vent info. Sounds like you're a pretty creepy guy to me.

Anyway, if you are ever in Philly and want to rub dongs, let me know bro.

Shrubwise
10-17-2010, 11:05 AM
How did it feel losing to my Giants last night Mr. Philly?

Hodge
10-17-2010, 05:56 PM
once i logged in, i had zero control of my character..unable to log or do anything..someone said something about updating spell files..where is that located, and will that spell file change mess around with P99 server? thanks.