View Full Version : How much to tip for a port?
Dacien
04-12-2015, 05:21 PM
Say you're some 20-something dwarf poking around East Karana and you wanna go to North Ro or WC. What's a fair tip in these kinds of situations?
waffel
04-12-2015, 05:41 PM
I'm a freshy and, on my maiden voyage to the mainland as an Iskar at 20 I tipped 15pp. My guild said that was a normal amount. As a fresh start I'm sure the porter may do it for free or take less.
If you're new, 10pp is a solid amount if you really want to tip. Just tell them you're new.
Swish
04-12-2015, 06:12 PM
Some <Dial A Port> druids have been getting a little greedy lately so I'd maybe not think of them first.
Personally I'd run to the NK spires and do a "/who all druid 29-49" and see what comes up and ask around, mentioning how much you can tip them :p
Madbad
04-12-2015, 06:17 PM
I figure if you are sub 50 tip your level in plat for a port.
If you are in rags you can get by with tipping less without the hate.
If you are above 50 anything less than a 50p tip is pretty shitty.
If you are asking for an EVAC of any kind or for an out of the way pick up (like Field of Bone) you should probably be offering at least 100p.
ko37qtl
04-12-2015, 06:27 PM
As a port-capable druid who doesn't advertise porting services, I expect to see 10pp offered or an explanation why that's not feasible. I don't even do it unless I'm not busy and feel like porting, regardless of the offer, so I'm not going to rage because I didn't get a big payday.
On my other characters, I generally run or take the boat unless I have people waiting on me for a group. In that case, I've given 20pp. It's been a while and now my highest characters are past 20th, so I'll think about bumping up if/when I buy a port next.
quido
04-12-2015, 06:53 PM
Should always make sure the amount you intend to PAY is sufficient before the port. If you're porting someone without a clear idea of the compensation, you have no room to get pissed when you get stiffed.
Madbad
04-12-2015, 07:35 PM
1pp per level, right?
i think this is pretty fair
Ryndar
04-12-2015, 08:59 PM
Say you're some 20-something dwarf poking around East Karana and you wanna go to North Ro or WC. What's a fair tip in these kinds of situations?
A good solid amount would be plat = to level. Level 60's could in theory bump to 100pp.
But what do I know?
caldiar
04-12-2015, 09:09 PM
When I was first starting out, I would tip 25pp minimum until I could port myself (my main's a druid).
On my alt I tip 50pp minimum, 100pp if I'm in a super good mood or the port is at a weird time of night where most people aren't logged on.
Tip plat is easy to come by when leveling. Anything less than 50pp for a service that saves you from wasting leveling/plat-making time seems cheap to me (unless you're brand new and less than level 30)
Crawdad
04-12-2015, 09:22 PM
When I'm porting on Apologetic, I never expect more than 10-20pp. On anyone else I tend to pay 30-50pp, depending if I'm coming from/going to bank.
If someone offers me <10pp, I assume they're new and let them ride for free. If I can tell they're in rags/patchwork I'll check my bag-o'-EC-junk and toss a piece of gear at them and let them know to bug me if they need help later on.
wormed
04-12-2015, 09:31 PM
Damn. I apparently should just level up a druid/wiz and reap the god damn rewards. I definitely don't have money to just throw out 1pp per level for ports. Lately, I just run where I want to go because I generally can't spare the coin and I feel bad.
gekkonidae
04-12-2015, 10:03 PM
50 as a 49 necro
If someone offers me less than 15pp i just decline the trade and port them for free. I assume they are poor and don't get resentful about it either. People should be nice mk.
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Brocode
04-13-2015, 05:29 AM
25-30pp
Erazmus
04-13-2015, 05:38 AM
Usually when I port, haven't been on in a while, If I saw anything less than 15pp in the trade window I'd cancel the tip and port that person for free. To me, anything less means the person I am porting needs the plat more than I do. ;)
Fanguru
04-13-2015, 06:55 AM
Offer & demand.
Ports are not rare, and work on a donation system. Unless you agree on a fee before the port, you have no place complaining about the amount of plat you get.
60 to 100 plat at level 60? That's a lot, I'll usually just dump a few hundred gold on the porter to save a trip to the bank.
Monty405
04-13-2015, 08:21 AM
I've gotten great service from dial-a-port despite being new and not being able to afford much. I remember trying to donate what I could afford once and not only got the trade rejected but given free gear because he saw I was wearing cloth.
I think 1pp per level is pretty much the standard.
Hawala
04-13-2015, 11:07 AM
I figure if you are sub 50 tip your level in plat for a port.
If you are in rags you can get by with tipping less without the hate.
If you are above 50 anything less than a 50p tip is pretty shitty.
If you are asking for an EVAC of any kind or for an out of the way pick up (like Field of Bone) you should probably be offering at least 100p.
Pretty solid rule, I'm gonna stick with this. Thanks for the advice.
wle831
04-13-2015, 12:18 PM
I've been playing on p1999 for a total of 3 days. Last night I sent a tell to one of the <Dial a Port> druids to try to get an EVAC to EJ so I could return to Cab. At the time I had no idea that you needed to be in a Kunark Dungeon to be evac'd. Before we left, I tipped the man 30pp of my total life saving of 100pp (I'm lvl 14) and took a lot of shit because of it. He told me I should be tipping 75pp at least. Can we get some understanding to the new players ffs. I can barely buy leather armor let alone pay for your greed. Thanks
Zodiacrat0222
04-13-2015, 12:50 PM
I have a druid in Dial-a-Port guild named Vexxtor. Now I'm not sure what everyone's general policy is, but here's mine:
When people ask me how much for the port, regardless of the destination, I just tell them to pay what they can afford. I never state a fixed price. I've been tipped 300p before, and I've been tipped 2p before. I really don't care; I'm not on my porting druid to get rich, just make some gear money for my real characters while providing a service to the community.
It's all about community here. We have one of the best with the best people around and I'd hate to see it all go away because of some loser MMO players. You want a crappy community, go hang out on Warcraft for awhile. :)
Ezalor
04-13-2015, 12:57 PM
25-30pp is pretty fair
also there's no such thing as "1pp per level" on this server
it just isn't widely accepted rule, except for a small minority of greedy <dial a port> druids
Madbad
04-13-2015, 01:08 PM
25-30pp is pretty fair
also there's no such thing as "1pp per level" on this server
it just isn't widely accepted rule, except for a small minority of greedy <dial a port> druids
If you are a high end toon, and you are paying 25-30p, your porter thinks you are cheap bastard. You will still get your port, but everyone knows you probably tip poorly in real life too.
Crabbles
04-13-2015, 01:23 PM
I have a druid in Dial-a-Port guild named Vexxtor. Now I'm not sure what everyone's general policy is, but here's mine:
When people ask me how much for the port, regardless of the destination, I just tell them to pay what they can afford. I never state a fixed price. I've been tipped 300p before, and I've been tipped 2p before. I really don't care; I'm not on my porting druid to get rich, just make some gear money for my real characters while providing a service to the community.
It's all about community here. We have one of the best with the best people around and I'd hate to see it all go away because of some loser MMO players. You want a crappy community, go hang out on Warcraft for awhile. :)
Nailed it.
joedirt87
04-13-2015, 01:52 PM
If you are a high end toon, and you are paying 25-30p, your porter thinks you are cheap bastard. You will still get your port, but everyone knows you probably tip poorly in real life too.
lol I think 25-30 plat even for a high level is pretty generous. I never really expect to see bigger tips then that though its nice when I do. I would say a lot of the players in the raiding guilds drop anywhere from 40 to 60 plat normally. At low levels 5 or 10 plat is really good for a tip, i'll often TP a low level for free, I know the struggles of poverty.
Feanol
04-13-2015, 02:02 PM
I have a flat rate tip of 8 Peridots. For those of you on Blue server, that's 80 pp.
If someone really saves my ass with a port they get 10 Peridots.
Dacien
04-13-2015, 02:10 PM
I have a flat rate tip of 8 Peridots. For those of you on Blue server, that's 80 pp.
If someone really saves my ass with a port they get 10 Peridots.
I'm kinda in the "6 carnelian, 3 amber, 4 ivory" camp myself. Keeps 'em guessing whether it's a fair deal or not.
Ezalor
04-13-2015, 02:17 PM
If you are a high end toon, and you are paying 25-30p, your porter thinks you are cheap bastard. You will still get your port, but everyone knows you probably tip poorly in real life too.
i port people all the time, and i would never complain about 25-30pp
i dont think some level 50s melee with no haste item who tips 30pp is a monster who stiffs waiters irl. you sound like a very angry and strange person
Golai
04-13-2015, 03:03 PM
To answer the OP, really any amount you feel comfortable with. Don't be a Scrooge, but don't feel pressured to give 50pp per port unless you have the means to do so.
As a poor Druid on red, I never set a strict amount, I just figure people will pay what they can.
If you can't tip, just let the porter know before hand, I bet most will be accommodating - especially if you're new.
The worst is when you give someone who clearly has gear a port and when you arrive they just say, "thanks!" and drop the group. I get that it's up to the porter to set a price before porting, but even some reasoning "no plat or gems on me, will get you back some other time" or "this is my main and I'm super poor, sorry" helps in reassuring the porter their time is appreciated.
I keep a list of people that don't donate without giving any reason, because it's a waste of my time to deal with them.
OTHER TIPS FOR POOR CHARS LOOKING FOR PORTS.
1. Don't be pushy, if the porter says they will get to you soon, give them at least 10 mins.
2. Be at or near the rings/spires you want to be ported from.
3. Be open about your lack of plat. Like I said, most are still going to be willing to help you and you won't be put on a shit list from not tipping.
dafier
04-13-2015, 03:09 PM
If you are new to the server then in most cases people will just port you for free.
I've tipped someone once for a port. It was 3pp. I was thanked. I did tell them that I just started and don't have much pp. They were more than cool with me.
Once you are a neckbeard, then maybe an expectation of 50 or 1000pp for a port can be placed on you. :)
Seltius
04-13-2015, 03:19 PM
I used to carry stacks of peridots since they were usable for alot of different things and I liked to at least pretend the added weight really mattered. Also clerics love when you tip them with peridots for a rez. So its a win/win situation.
lodgedogg
04-13-2015, 03:30 PM
Im see your few posts hating on us dial a port druids and sincei have one i will tell you right now, the only time i get mad is when a epic twinked rog or monk gets a port and bounces on the tip or when i wait for a lvl 60 for 20 minutes and get the shaft. I always port lowbies and if they dont have money thats fine when i was low and didnt have much dial a port druids ported me and always turned down my little bit of plat i could pay them. So before you hate on us look at yourself in the mirror and you will see it was probably yourself in the wrong.
Madbad
04-13-2015, 03:58 PM
i port people all the time, and i would never complain about 25-30pp
i dont think some level 50s melee with no haste item who tips 30pp is a monster who stiffs waiters irl. you sound like a very angry and strange person
I don't think this fits the definition of a high end toon. It does get tiresome to port best-in-slot folks who are in too much of hurry to wait for a guild porter or to even say thank you for 10-20pp. So much so that after I made sufficient money I stopped porting and use my blue druid as an EC mule.
On red I'll either port people or I won't. I don't do the port for plats thing there.
As far as being a strange and angry person, you must be like, Facebook friends with me or something. You have me pegged.
Kalmiri
04-13-2015, 04:56 PM
I have an active porter and as others have said already if you are young and cant afford to tip just tell me up front and life is good! If you are on a CR im going to take you and you wont even have to wait, its still first come first serve. I have had well known high level raid guild people tell me 'im sorry, I just switched to my resist gear and forgot money for the port'. That is fine! The other night a group from Rampage got a ride from me and I had to wait a bit for them to assemble so they" made it rain plat on me" and that was great too!
Point is just say in advance what you need and if you can pay or not and im going to give you a ride anyways! Please don't be rude and sneak off without a word!
ko37qtl
04-13-2015, 07:05 PM
If you are a high end toon, and you are paying 25-30p, your porter thinks you are cheap bastard. You will still get your port, but everyone knows you probably tip poorly in real life too.
It costs me the same mana/downtime to port someone poor as someone wealthy. I don't do this for a business but 25-30 is just fine with me. I sometimes think it's a wronheaded enabling device to provide free ports on corpse recovery. Why bother to get a reasonably nearby bind if you can just pass your downtime onto some druid or wizard? It's the community convention and I go with it, but I wonder and I haven't asked yet for someone to port me for a corpse run. Not saying it won't ever happen but it hasn't yet.
Sadre Spinegnawer
04-13-2015, 09:54 PM
If you're new, 10pp is a solid amount if you really want to tip. Just tell them you're new.
I think if you are starting on this server, and you are building your character and your bank and whatever, 10p is fair up til around... say lvl 30ish?
Past level 30 you should be able to afford more or you're doing it wrong, and you should definitely pay more. These porters are making eq incredibly less painful by being available like this.
I think a kind of "pay it forward" habit is the best. Tip what you can, and if you can tip well, do so, and tell your porter "that's to make up for the freebie cr ports you gonna do later."
The porting economy on this server is eq at its best: players solving problems on their own. Support it, tip it generously when you can, because -- call me naive -- if you tip a porter well, that porter is now in a fine mood to go help some people with a cr. It all comes around.
But I think 10p is fair for starting players up till lvl 30ish. Players who have been on server longer can make up the diff by tipping very nicely.
And then everybody wins :)
azeth
04-14-2015, 06:58 AM
25p
100p for an evac
never more or less.
Dazbonez
04-14-2015, 11:51 AM
I don't actively look to port people but I end up porting people fairly often especially when I end up leveling in zones like OT and Dreadlands. The thing that pisses me off the most are the people who ask you for a port (when your not ooc'ing that your porting),you give them a port and then they don't tip or even say thanks or anything they just disband group and head off on their way afterwards. I'm all for helping people out, but when an epic'd level 60 asks you to stop what your doing and you don't even get a quick thanks afterwards its kinda ridiculous. Earthquakes are by far the worst, people just lose all sense of common decency when they start racing for dragons. People start acting like your an NPC and that you exist solely to transport their character as though you have some vested interest in their dragon-slaying. the only time I turn anon on is following earthquakes because 90% of the times ive been stiffed or had to deal with a rude asshole have been directly following them. I was in the middle of a quad in DL and this guy asked me for a ride, I told him I could as soon as I was done with my pull. I give him a ride he hands me like 5pp(Fungi Epic CoF gear so yeah pretty solid tip) and asks for levitate and then proceeds to yell at me out for a good couple minutes afterwards when I inform him I wasn't carrying batwings. I REALLY wanted to port him to Toxx and hope he wasn't paying attention and didn't drop group.
Asharad
04-14-2015, 01:39 PM
Man...I am thinking I need to level a druid. I actually don't mind running and using the boats but 25 plat+ a port is some gooooood money.
I'm level 9 and that's 1/4 of my entire net worth! :)
planeofdreams
04-14-2015, 06:10 PM
lol I think 25-30 plat even for a high level is pretty generous. I never really expect to see bigger tips then that though its nice when I do. I would say a lot of the players in the raiding guilds drop anywhere from 40 to 60 plat normally. At low levels 5 or 10 plat is really good for a tip, i'll often TP a low level for free, I know the struggles of poverty.
25-30pp is like killing one High Elf guard. High levels tipping that much are not being generous. I tip 50pp at level 55, up to 70-100 if I had a good day farming. If I can't afford the 50pp I take a boat.
Kalmiri
04-14-2015, 06:27 PM
Since this ebil thread started my competition has doubled. Druids everywhere are trying to get their share. How about we end this and start a 48th thread about why we cant have Luclin (not by me, Im thrilled with Velious) Please?
Erica
04-14-2015, 06:35 PM
If you are a new level 10, you should be able to afford 10 plat for a port or you aren't looting mobs and/or selling anything that drops. A stack of bone chips are 10 plat. A high quality bear pelt is like 30 plat which you can get off a level 4 or 5 bear. Basic loot adds up to an ok amount. Caster spells are over priced at lower levels so that might be the only excuse. Once you hit 20, you should easily be able to afford 25 plat. Mid 30s you can probably already afford 50 plat.
If the person porting is actively looking to port people and you run to them, then I think 50 plat is fine even at level 60.
If the person is actively porting and has to go out a little out of their way to get to you, or run somewhere not too far for an EJ, then you should tip 100.
If the person is currently not porting, you should double whatever price you fall under. If you make them go really far, triple it. Don't send a porter a tell who is in EC to come pick you up in CoM or Sebilis and then hand them 20 plat.
Finally, if the person porting has to go out of their way at all you can always tell them how much you are going to donate first. Maybe you just happen to not have much on you, or are legitimately broke rather than a cheapo.
If the person wanted me to pick them up in CoM and said right away they can only give me 20 plat... if I was not doing anything I might be nice and go port them for it. But the amount I get wouldn't annoy me when I got there since I knew ahead of time.
lecompte
04-14-2015, 06:49 PM
Erica must be a trustfund baby. I was broke until level 30. I didn't see 10pp until level 15. No one actually buys bone chips except to support a newbie. I have (literally) 8 bags full of them.
I pay all different amounts based on how much at I have the time. Tips range from "Can I get you double next time?" to 200pp. My basic tip is 30-50 if they are porting multiple people. If they come to me, I tell them a price before they start running.
I also have a porter, and the only ones that piss me off are people w/ fungi's on a level ten who tip 5-15pp. And some of these big guild guys. I think they usually just forget so I let the slide the first time, then you realize that some of them just.. don't tip.
Erica
04-14-2015, 07:09 PM
We seem to be about on the same page lecompte. Though... you didn't see 10pp until you were level 15? I find that very hard to believe. Did you loot nothing you killed? Those rusty weapons add up. Cracked staff is over 1 plat. The other staff level 3-5 carry is like 6 gold. Even if you didn't sell any bone chips or pelts (I didn't.. I wasn't aware they were worth anything) you just weren't trying.
Only excuse in my opinion is if you are a caster as I already mentioned cause the spells are over priced.
Ezalor
04-14-2015, 07:19 PM
you think that a level 8 with 10pp to his name should donate all 10pp of his savings for your port?
what a grinch
planeofdreams
04-14-2015, 07:30 PM
I think you have to know what you're doing to have 10s of pp by level 10. For someone who's never played before it might be difficult though. Especially if you play a caster. Every plat counts at that point, which is why I used to hoof it instead of looking for a port.
Clark
04-14-2015, 07:39 PM
25p
100p for an evac
never more or less.
25pp isn't much unless you're below 40
jarshale
04-14-2015, 07:45 PM
50p if I'm in the same zone, 100p if I need a pickup.
Tuljin
04-14-2015, 08:45 PM
I've gotten 5pp tips and I've gotten 500pp tips. It all depends really. Usually I'm not going super out of my way to port people so really whatever is fine. Either way tips add up to thousands of platinum over the lifetime of a toon. The times I've gotten a Diamond mask or some neat item as tip makes up for the times I've gotten stiffed. 25-50pp is fine, and nubs can get away with whatever they can do. You can't port a lowbie out of Gfay and expect 100pp.
Once Translocate comes out things will change a bit
Pottzy
04-14-2015, 09:27 PM
20-25
ko37qtl
04-14-2015, 11:41 PM
you think that a level 8 with 10pp to his name should donate all 10pp of his savings for your port?
what a grinch
I think it would be prudent for the level 8 to walk when they have 10pp to their name. I know I do. Ports are a luxury.
Dacien
04-15-2015, 12:00 AM
I think it would be prudent for the level 8 to walk when they have 10pp to their name. I know I do. Ports are a luxury.
See the trick is though, you gotta be sociable. Take a few moments to plead your case. A port to WC from Butcherblock for a level 8 is a huge deal.
ko37qtl
04-15-2015, 12:34 AM
See the trick is though, you gotta be sociable. Take a few moments to plead your case. A port to WC from Butcherblock for a level 8 is a huge deal.
People are very generous here with their ports. I expect I could get one if I made the effort. That's not how I like to play. If I can't pay (or I'm too cheap to pay), I walk.
As a porter, if I'm not in a rush and I'm headed out, I offer free ports to where I'm headed and I'm certainly not immune to a good story for why someone wants a ride but I'm aware that it's an imposition on the porter's time and play, so that's worth something.
nilzark
04-15-2015, 12:40 AM
I don't always play a Druid, but when I do I don't give a crap about "tips".
webrunner5
04-15-2015, 09:11 AM
1pp per level, right?
I play a Druid and I think that is fair as hell. I don't even take a tip from anyone under level 6. But if they have no plat they have no plat. Hell 60 Monks are the worse tippers in the game. The old "Plat weighs too much" crap. :D
Kutsumo
04-15-2015, 03:11 PM
I play a Druid and I think that is fair as hell. I don't even take a tip from anyone under level 6. But if they have no plat they have no plat. Hell 60 Monks are the worse tippers in the game. The old "Plat weighs too much" crap. :D
Most monks with half a brain carry a stack or few of gems in a bag to sell/trade when plat is needed. I pay porting tips in peridots on my monk.
Shaniril
04-15-2015, 03:35 PM
My personal rule for tipping is:
If druid was in zone and actively selling ports - 40pp
If druid had to come scoop me (and I'm not in the armpit of kunark) - 50pp
If druid has to scoop me from the armpit of kunark - 80pp
If druid is a member of Dial a Port - +20pp for being awesome
If druid is actually a wizard - +20pp for being super awesome
and lastly...
If the poor sap is retrieving my level 1 mule from the arse end of everfrost - 300pp (I still feel sorry for whomever that was...)
maskedmelon
04-15-2015, 04:08 PM
Most monks with half a brain carry a stack or few of gems in a bag to sell/trade when plat is needed. I pay porting tips in peridots on my monk.
Working with smaller denominations help control spending habits. I advocate working with Cat's Eye Agates. You can't carry as large a sum of money, are more likely to make fewer/less expensive purchases and a stack of cash makes both the spender and the recipient feel great about themselves. If you really want to feel like you're ballin' just slap a Bloodstone, or even a Lapis Lazuli on each side! ^^
Sadre Spinegnawer
04-15-2015, 07:32 PM
See the trick is though, you gotta be sociable. Take a few moments to plead your case. A port to WC from Butcherblock for a level 8 is a huge deal.
grab life and bite into it with relish and if today, today is a good day to die. do the run.
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Clark
04-16-2015, 01:44 AM
grab life and bite into it with relish and if today, today is a good day to die. do the run.
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LOL A+
PDX0621
04-16-2015, 12:19 PM
My personal rule for tipping is:
If druid was in zone and actively selling ports - 40pp
If druid had to come scoop me (and I'm not in the armpit of kunark) - 50pp
If druid has to scoop me from the armpit of kunark - 80pp
If druid is a member of Dial a Port - +20pp for being awesome
If druid is actually a wizard - +20pp for being super awesome
and lastly...
If the poor sap is retrieving my level 1 mule from the arse end of everfrost - 300pp (I still feel sorry for whomever that was...)
OTHER TIPS FOR POOR CHARS LOOKING FOR PORTS.
1. Don't be pushy, if the porter says they will get to you soon, give them at least 10 mins.
2. Be at or near the rings/spires you want to be ported from.
3. Be open about your lack of plat. Like I said, most are still going to be willing to help you and you won't be put on a shit list from not tipping.
All pretty solid advice. One of the things that pisses me off more than anything is when someone asks for a ride, and when I come from across the world and am 3 quarters of the way there, I get the "got a ride thx". If you ask for a ride, stick to it. Don't waste my time and yours, and do not send tells to 3-4 different porters at the same time and go with the one who shows up first.Also, if you're broke, or on a CR, just be upfront about it. Don't be like the epic monk I ejac'd last night who advertised he was paying for a port, only to disband and run away upon landing who responded with "sorry bro 0 on me" when I asked about the tip.
Daldaen
04-16-2015, 01:21 PM
All pretty solid advice. One of the things that pisses me off more than anything is when someone asks for a ride, and when I come from across the world and am 3 quarters of the way there, I get the "got a ride thx". If you ask for a ride, stick to it. Don't waste my time and yours, and do not send tells to 3-4 different porters at the same time and go with the one who shows up first.Also, if you're broke, or on a CR, just be upfront about it. Don't be like the epic monk I ejac'd last night who advertised he was paying for a port, only to disband and run away upon landing who responded with "sorry bro 0 on me" when I asked about the tip.
Name and Shame this epic monk.
Any monk who has an epic, should be carrying gems. Peridots for utility, Emeralds for utility and a bit more cash, Rubies for ballers.
If you're a 60 monk with an epic and you don't carry gems, you are a horrible monk. Your weight limit isn't any excuse to not tip a player you wouldn't invite to your grind group for saving you a 30minute journey.
Dacien
04-16-2015, 01:28 PM
All pretty solid advice. One of the things that pisses me off more than anything is when someone asks for a ride, and when I come from across the world and am 3 quarters of the way there, I get the "got a ride thx". If you ask for a ride, stick to it. Don't waste my time and yours, and do not send tells to 3-4 different porters at the same time and go with the one who shows up first.Also, if you're broke, or on a CR, just be upfront about it. Don't be like the epic monk I ejac'd last night who advertised he was paying for a port, only to disband and run away upon landing who responded with "sorry bro 0 on me" when I asked about the tip.
Ya that's pretty outrageous. I would be forced to /ignore.
emdubwubwub
04-16-2015, 01:34 PM
Any monk who has an epic, should be carrying gems. Peridots for utility, Emeralds for utility and a bit more cash, Rubies for ballers.
If you're a 60 monk with an epic and you don't carry gems, you are a horrible monk.
Explain please, what are peridots and emeralds used for?
firesyde424
04-16-2015, 01:51 PM
I don't like tipping. I usually never know how much to tip. I usually just advertise "WTB Port to DL, Paying 50 pp." That way, if someone accepts, they know how much they are getting up front and it's on them if they aren't happy with the price.
Daldaen
04-16-2015, 01:59 PM
Explain please, what are peridots and emeralds used for?
They are weightless currency, that stack and sell well. So that monk may carry currency without being encumbered by it. Easily turned into platinum by the porter at any vendor.
Every monk at high levels should buy a few stacks of peridots or a stack of rubies or some other high value gem for purposes of tipping porters, rezzers, buffers, and buying necessary supplies from a vendor as needed.
curtischoy
04-16-2015, 02:50 PM
Don't be like the epic monk I ejac'd last night
That sounds dirty.
emdubwubwub
04-16-2015, 02:56 PM
They are weightless currency, that stack and sell well. So that monk may carry currency without being encumbered by it. Easily turned into platinum by the porter at any vendor.
I see. I'm new to the server, so I don't really have a bunch of money floating around. Typically I carry just enough money to pay for a port or a rez. Something about losing currency to NPCs doesn't sit well with me.
PDX0621
04-16-2015, 04:08 PM
Name and Shame this epic monk.
It doesn't matter. I maintain my own No Fly List. Only the most egregious d bags are added. He is now on it.
Ya that's pretty outrageous. I would be forced to /ignore.
I don't sweat it. For every d1ckhead head there's dozens of awesome people. I've slowly built up enough regular customers, I get tells when I'm /anon all the time.
I don't like tipping. I usually never know how much to tip. I usually just advertise "WTB Port to DL, Paying 50 pp." That way, if someone accepts, they know how much they are getting up front and it's on them if they aren't happy with the price.
That's a pretty good way to do it, and I would encourage more to do the same. The porter not only knows up front what they will be getting, but 9/10 times you'll get a port much faster as well. That or just look me up :D
That sounds dirty.
All part of Bhear Force Ones 'First Class Experience'. Who doesn't like a little happy ending with their flight?
Asharad
04-16-2015, 04:19 PM
Back in the day when I played a druid (pre-PoP) there was some zone where you could forage peanuts.
I would hand them out to people I was porting because customer service is important!
PDX0621
04-16-2015, 04:28 PM
Back in the day when I played a druid (pre-PoP) there was some zone where you could forage peanuts.
I would hand them out to people I was porting because customer service is important!
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ko37qtl
04-17-2015, 12:43 AM
I don't like tipping. I usually never know how much to tip. I usually just advertise "WTB Port to DL, Paying 50 pp." That way, if someone accepts, they know how much they are getting up front and it's on them if they aren't happy with the price.
I think that's very clear and it's the approach I have used the few times I've paid for ports. I like it as a porter as well.
Lorian
04-17-2015, 05:30 AM
My shammy is lv 24 and have only ported once, but I paid my level in plat plus a bit more. I regularely walk/take the boat between Gfay and Halas between my different characters, and yes it takes forever but I'm not begging for free ports like a retard (lots of new players cries for 'free newbie ports' like 3 zones away, wtf?!).
Besides travelling by foot is part of the timesink classic experience and you can usually level whist doing it. As a consequence I have come to know the geography much better here on p99 than when I played during the PoP era.
So to the point, I always assumed you would pay your level in plat to the porter, which is easy for money making classes but very hard for warriors or monks, at least not without support from higher level characters. I guess even a warrior at lv 40 should be able to farm 25plat for a port, if that is accepted?
GinnasP99
04-17-2015, 05:40 AM
58 necro, 59 monk here. I tip 100pp every time
PDX0621
04-17-2015, 06:09 AM
58 necro, 59 monk here. I tip 100pp every time
I think you should keep me on retainer :D
azeth
04-17-2015, 09:29 AM
Also can we stop calling it a tip? This has bugged me for 16 years. It's not a tip, it's a payment.
"Porting for tips" -> no, you're porting for payment.
A tip would be you saying "porting for 25 plat" and me paying you 50. Yes you have received a 25 plat tip.
I would prefer it if druids/wizards set a flat price for ports, that way there is no guessing on how much you should tip.
You shout "Porting to all druid locations, charging 50pp upfront".
Whirled
04-17-2015, 10:32 AM
No set fee. If I'm on and you need a port send me the secret signal and mutter yopyop.
Swish
04-17-2015, 10:49 AM
Also can we stop calling it a tip? This has bugged me for 16 years. It's not a tip, it's a payment.
"Porting for tips" -> no, you're porting for payment.
A tip would be you saying "porting for 25 plat" and me paying you 50. Yes you have received a 25 plat tip.
I think the problem comes with "payment" sounding something quite fixed, "ports for donations" is probably the good middle ground some druids go for... I agree though, "tips" isn't quite right.
webrunner5
04-17-2015, 12:18 PM
I think honestly way too many noobs want a port. I never asked for a port the first year I played on here. Take the Boat or run. Big deal until you have to get to say CoM or Seb. I guess if you are a rich alt take ports but.. :p
ko37qtl
04-17-2015, 01:56 PM
Also can we stop calling it a tip? This has bugged me for 16 years. It's not a tip, it's a payment.
"Porting for tips" -> no, you're porting for payment.
A tip would be you saying "porting for 25 plat" and me paying you 50. Yes you have received a 25 plat tip.
To me, tips or donations means that you'll take whatever someone gives (1cp+) and parenthetically you should like it. If I was in the porting business, I wouldn't be asking for either tips or donations but asking for the minimum price that I'd be happy to receive. I think people don't like the idea of setting prices and also they're enticed by the idea of getting more than a fair price for some time and mana. It's sort of an interesting social experiment.
bulbousaur
04-17-2015, 02:04 PM
Just say porting for plat and let the portee decide what they pay. 'Donations accepted but never required,' ugh.
azeth
04-17-2015, 02:27 PM
bah i just remembered that TIPS isnt my trigger word. it's donations.
it's not a gd donation! You're not porting my ass unless i pay! It's a payment!
Fanguru
04-20-2015, 11:39 AM
You should have agreed on a price.
PDX0621
04-20-2015, 12:10 PM
10mins, a run across EJ, 3 ports in total, sows, invis, etc....30 plat.
Way to go <Omni>
Now if he said "hey mate, im broke, can you port me as I'm stuck..." I would of for free, no problems...but he could of run to cabalis and then to DL in 15mins instead of trying to jew me and 10mins of my time too.
Lame. I know the feeling. It's ironic, most of the worst tippers are also the highest level, epic/fungi'd, power guild members. And monks.
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Crabbles
04-20-2015, 01:34 PM
lol it aint the price, i woudl do it for free to someone poor. but to blindly ask all that shit then be a jew? as if.
Woah, wasn't prepared for the racist comments. I agree that guy was a jerk and you deserved more compensation/appreciation, but let's bury the racism on these threads, okay?
Papaj
04-20-2015, 02:06 PM
I tip from 60 to 80plat each port, had 1 guy i tipped 3 times for 75 each port within 20mins, cuz he was porting to and from epic quest mobs, lvl 54 pally. But still 60 to 80 on all ports. My thought is 1 gem or 1 armor drop in kc pays for that port, and my time worth instead of having to run my fat dwf all the way to kc.
Asharad
04-20-2015, 03:04 PM
Yeah, what is up with the blatant racism?
That's way worse than not getting paid enough pretend dollars.
Dirtynads
04-21-2015, 06:01 PM
Some <Dial A Port> druids have been getting a little greedy lately so I'd maybe not think of them first.
Personally I'd run to the NK spires and do a "/who all druid 29-49" and see what comes up and ask around, mentioning how much you can tip them :p
I am only gonna comment on this one last time esp since its coming from a guy who has had his druid in the guild and should know better....the guild its self is a pay for port service no diff then ant other person who offers a type of service in the game expects to be paid for his/her time. That being said the guild in no way determines what each porter ask for theyre time. The guild its self is a place to find a port its up to the porter what is worth it to them to provide the service. Whether it be a 5 zone run for a pick up or a port to the nearest rings.
Being as we have many many diff types of people and personalities within the guild you will find a wide range of what people expect. We have operated this way from the start and will always continue to do so. If you feel a certain porter is being greedy then try anotehr...most dont ask for plat up front and take what they get as we preach they will do better in the long run operating in this fasion...if they wish to charge a certain amount for evacs or certain types of ports then so be it...this is also a very common practice amounst non DaP members as well. If people have a problem with a certain porter and think they are pushing things to far then aproch myself or leave a msg for myself and I will do my best as I always have to get back to you as soon as I can.
Swish
04-21-2015, 07:00 PM
If I could remember one specific halfling female I would. Stating it was 50pp for a port, fine.
"Can you pick me up in Feerott?"
"That's an extra X pp because of my mana pool"
I'll let you know next time I see anything like it, and that's my friend's druid that was in the guild... he hasn't played in over 2 years :p
Dirtynads
04-21-2015, 08:07 PM
If I could remember one specific halfling female I would. Stating it was 50pp for a port, fine.
"Can you pick me up in Feerott?"
"That's an extra X pp because of my mana pool"
I'll let you know next time I see anything like it, and that's my friend's druid that was in the guild... he hasn't played in over 2 years :p
First off I am proud to announce the guild will be 16 months old next week *golf clap* and we have started our spring recruiting drive getting ready for the release of velious (way to go devs woohoo)
Just a question though mate do you and your friend share forum accounts? If you didnt have 9k+ post and it wouldnt tkae me 2 weeks to find I would point out several post where you mentioned you were a member. Anyways friend or not in the guild we operate a certain way for a reason and to call the entire guild "greedy" because one person wanted a certain amount of plat ( A person you cant even name at that). Again if anyone has issues with the way certain porters operate then feel free to msg me here or in game anytime the door is always open.
Have a great day
PDX0621
04-21-2015, 08:25 PM
If I could remember one specific halfling female I would. Stating it was 50pp for a port, fine.
"Can you pick me up in Feerott?"
"That's an extra X pp because of my mana pool"
I'll let you know next time I see anything like it, and that's my friend's druid that was in the guild... he hasn't played in over 2 years :p
Have a pretty good idea who that may have been. If it was who I was thinking of, they are no longer with us.
Nisse
04-23-2015, 12:55 PM
New players walk
Teneran
04-23-2015, 01:53 PM
New players walk
And take boats.
I did for the first few months on here. Now that I have some cash I will often pay for a port if I've got a group waiting and a guildmate isn't available to give a ride, although on my own time I still will sometimes take the boat or run across a continent.
Usually, when I send a tell to Dial or someone else I state in the tell what I want to pay to make sure it's acceptable etc. if I am getting an evac or picked up not at a druid ring or wiz spire I would definitely pay significantly more.
One thing at cracks me up is I will see people in EC asking for a port to Lavastorm. Really? Grab a sow at the tunnel and you can run there in 5 minutes. Talk about lazy.
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