EQ Live Progression server?

[Tenloar]

New Progression Server FAQ and Upcoming Poll Details (https://www.everquest.com/news/progression-server-faq-april-15)

Anyone else visited EQ Live website lately?

It's quite interesting that they're opening yet another progression server.

Is this a stunt just to keep players paying monthly subscriptions? Think they have caught wind of P1999 being successful with "progression" type server?

The idea itself kinda piques my interest, but meh.

/discuss

[11bangbang]

im gonna be checking it out when its released, if i like it ill keep on paying for it.

[Swish]

I think the new zone designs are still in place on them? Correct me if I'm wrong.

No Oasis of Marr etc.

[Grizzler]

Well I recently read on reddit or somewhere that they plan to make a test server for the upcoming progression server. I wonder what they need to test other than possibly population?

[Grizzler]

Well I recently read on reddit or somewhere that they plan to make a test server for the upcoming progression server. I wonder what they need to test other than possibly population?

Apparently it was massively op. Here's the link:

http://massivelyop.net/2015/04/16/everquest-will-run-an-open-beta-for-its-new-progression-server/

[11bangbang]

Apparently it was massively op. Here's the link:

http://massivelyop.net/2015/04/16/everquest-will-run-an-open-beta-for-its-new-progression-server/

do you know where one would sign up for beta or how to access it?

[Sampten]

They lost me at where if I die, I respawn with all my gear.

So, "progression server" but no such thing as corpse recovery :(

[stormlord]

They lost me at where if I die, I respawn with all my gear.

So, "progression server" but no such thing as corpse recovery :(
One of the reasons p1999 is popular is because it plays different. Corpse recovery is one of the things which makes it play different. Some people don't like these things, but that's why they're on live.

We can get something from p1999 we'll never get from live.

And there's more downtime which is pivotal to triggering players to talk to each other. Most players don't like downtime, true. But without it, the tendency seems to be to only grunt now and then.

No GPS-enabled maps. Spells/items are less powerful. Players are more reliant on each other.

[stormlord]

I think a big part of a progression server on live is just making sure defiant isn't dropping (until it's appropriate) and/or OP quests/items aren't available. Bottom line, create a steady and convincing progression. Use the carrot. Don't put the carriage ahead of the horse. Don't just hand someone the keys to the car. Make em work for it. Risk/reward. Get the balance right. We're in Norrath, not a used car lot.

I don't want to be a hater. I've played on live. I played there last year. Had fun. I've liked p1999 too.

Kumbaya.

[webrunner5]

I don't see why it would be that hard to start it up. Easy for me to say lol, but I would think they just take this P1999 from the last Patch and kind of just restart it in the proper timeline on a different server. They should have all the code to do it. :)

[Catashe]

I'll probably check it out but I'll freely admit I hate the look the zones they redid.. Except maybe JUST NRO cause that ain't too back but the rest they can keep... ESPECIALLY Freeport... My god... I don't know whose idea it was to make Freeport a giant maze on live but he was either stupid or drunk when they proposed it

[pharmakos]

I think the new zone designs are still in place on them? Correct me if I'm wrong.

No Oasis of Marr etc.

true.

[Seltius]

I think the new zone designs are still in place on them? Correct me if I'm wrong.

No Oasis of Marr etc.

Thats the reason I wouldnt be able to play live Progression server.

Too much of the actual progression is lost in time or updates it just wouldnt feel the same.

[Tenloar]

Yes I agree, the only changes I do not like are that you don't lose EXP, items do not stay on the body. Oh gosh and Freeport revamp is ridiculous. Other than that, it does somewhat interest me.

[Ivory]

The progression server also has new monk / mage pet changes....

So at level 50, monks have 20/26 fists :|

And the worse thing is people will be boxing like crazy.

And little to no GM support. On their last progression server apparently it was wild training and perma camped EVERYTHING. Raid mobs would die before they graphically loaded from all the boxing and lack of any rules.

It is going to be ugly I think haha. From what I have been reading....if you think late game p1999 is bad....it is nothing compared to live progression servers.

[Rararboker]

Long live p99!

[Stabulous]

They're shooting for a june release according to the recent producer's letter. It may not be the end all be all, but i'll be checking it out for sure.

https://forums.station.sony.com/eq/index.php?threads/producers-letter-progression-server-april-update-and-beyond.219656/

[Leopaz]

every fucking thread Swish's dumbass has to have some comment, meaning you have to see his fucking sig. change your sig and/or go fuck yourself

[fastboy21]

every fucking thread Swish's dumbass has to have some comment, meaning you have to see his fucking sig. change your sig and/or go fuck yourself

wow. someone get lost on the way to the RNF section?

[Bolix]

it looks interesting, but several major problems i would see;


zero GM support. no matter what happens, a GM won't appear.
no limit on boxing (already talk of 1 person boxing 6 mage groups)
no raid rules


This all leads to (from what i gather on the forums) a really toxic raid scene on the current progression server. Yes, we poopsock; but they poopsock, train and kill steal. And there does seem to be much more RMT and hacking.

It would be interesting playing, but unless you are in the hardcore category, then most likely you will see zero high end raiding content (even less than us casuals see here on p1999)

[kaev]

every fucking thread Swish's dumbass has to have some comment, meaning you have to see his fucking sig. change your sig and/or go fuck yourself

This forum has an ignore function. Take charge of your ForumQuest experience, try the UserCP tab.

[iruinedyourday]

This forum has an ignore function. Take charge of your ForumQuest experience, try the UserCP tab.

Ive clicked view, on every ignored post I have ever seen.

[Ishbu]

Im sure the xp will be at the current rate and nothing about this progression server sounds classic, nor is it intended to be, its just progression through expansions.

Not to mention there will be some version of the marketplace to buy stuff.

Id honestly be shocked if any of the established p99 crowd actually enjoyed the progresion server.

[Eliseus]

See most of you there, even the ones claiming they won't be! The pixels consume you! Bigger population for power gamers to compete against! Whos going to have windows open for blue/red AND the progression server?

[fastboy21]

i've had a ton of fun on the old progression servers.

when did classic eq become a religion for so many folks?

[Rec]

xp potions are lameo

[Fysts]

Trak dies in .5 seconds to so armies that run mq2 with autofire....along with every other mob. Its not just monk hand to hand damage increased, but all h2h, warriors, paladins, SKS, etc do more DMG using bare fists. Mq2 warping all over, etc. Progression server was fun as long as you just wanted to do group content, when it came to raid scene, mq2 ruled the day.

[Bristlebaner]

As we likely expected, it's EQ Live with content turned off. Nothing more. All the new combat values, ease of use changes, UI enhancements, etc. Leveling 1-60 on this progression server will likely take at least half as long as on P99 due to these quality of life enhancements.

Also - it's going to eventually progress to current content. That in itself is enough for me never to play on it.

[Sixpence]

They've started another One? Wasn't Fippy a 'Progression server' a few years back?

[Erydan Ouragan]

They've started another One? Wasn't Fippy a 'Progression server' a few years back?

It hasn't started yet, "early summer" with no specific date. Fippy was a progression server yes.

[Sixpence]

Thanks Erydan.
I was quite excited about Fippy but found being One Troll Shammy of 100 fighting over the same moss Snake got old pretty fast.

[fadetree]

I liked Fippy but it moved too fast. People were always falling all over themselves to get the expansions unlocked. No idea why. I stopped when they moved on from PoP, as imo that's not EQ anymore.

[Baadan]

Thanks Erydan.
I was quite excited about Fippy but found being One Troll Shammy of 100 fighting over the same moss Snake got old pretty fast.

They're introducing newbie zone instancing to combat that.

[Sadre Spinegnawer]

the only p99'ers who will play this are players who want to box and use mq.

Given the skeletal crew the company is left with, it will be more wild wild west than fippy was.

Some find this kind of gameplay appealing. population on red99 will likely plummet.

[Kutsumo]

The only reason that I'd play this server is because I want to experience Luclin/PoP as current expansions again. LDoN was pretty darn fun for a while, too. That probably means I won't be checking it out until it's been open for a year or more.

[fadetree]

Some find this kind of gameplay appealing. population on red99 will likely plummet.

Hmm. How to tell?

awww snap

[Eliseus]

Lots of speculation going on right now for the progression server, or possible future progression servers with a lot of random tweets and questions asked/answered on the recent stream. I didn't actually watch the stream, just going off of random stuff posted on the official forums. Did anyone happen to watch or catch anything that they could particularly shed some light on for fun?

[Oleris]

beta coming out in 2 weeks. rogean/sirken and other p1999 staff hanging out in the stream as well. Roshen answered a question from rogean as well. I think there might be some mutual code swapping or something bigger in the works for p1999 and the progression server.

[Stormfists]

beta coming out in 2 weeks. rogean/sirken and other p1999 staff hanging out in the stream as well. Roshen answered a question from rogean as well. I think there might be some mutual code swapping or something bigger in the works for p1999 and the progression server.

Although P99 / Daybreak goals are different am pleased to see co-operation of sorts.

Am certain both parties could benefit from this.

[Voland]

beta coming out in 2 weeks. rogean/sirken and other p1999 staff hanging out in the stream as well.

Got a link for the stream? I don't see it in the TLP forum.

[nilzark]

every fucking thread Swish's dumbass has to have some comment, meaning you have to see his fucking sig. change your sig and/or go fuck yourself

Respect Elder swish, he has survived bans and entertained millions with his Sig gifs.

[Sixpence]

This One ? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mcno-iPYCro

[Voland]

This One ? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mcno-iPYCro

Oh, I guess I misunderstood, I thought you guys were talking about a Daybreak stream.

[Oleris]

Got a link for the stream? I don't see it in the TLP forum.

http://www.twitch.tv/daybreakgames/v/4445201

last 15-20 minutes I get roshen to answer some quesitons from me + rogean does as well.

[Clark]

They lost me at where if I die, I respawn with all my gear.

So, "progression server" but no such thing as corpse recovery :(

not classic!

[Oleris]

beta coming out in 2 weeks. rogean/sirken and other p1999 staff hanging out in the stream as well. Roshen answered a question from rogean as well. I think there might be some mutual code swapping or something bigger in the works for p1999 and the progression server.


called it

[Rec]

lguk trains!

[Oleris]

RAGEFIRE will be the name of the new server. Read more here

https://forums.station.sony.com/eq/index.php?threads/the-new-progression-server-name-is.219997/

[iruinedyourday]

RAGEFIRE will be the name of the new server. Read more here

https://forums.station.sony.com/eq/index.php?threads/the-new-progression-server-name-is.219997/

what tha fuk is that unclassic pic

[Tenloar]

called it

Well there had to be some "guidelines" [insert conspiracy here].

But all in all, I might think entertain the idea, some of those "features" are definitely not classic though =/

[Goldrock]

Pretty much everything in the progression servers are current graphics maps i think etc etc because its all ran on the current client and they couldnt redo most the newer stuff only thing progressive are the zones and story etc etc.

[Oleris]

https://forums.daybreakgames.com/eq/index.php?threads/ragefire-poll-results-and-beta-information.220107/

poll results are in. classic only on launch, max nolstagia until vote opens, can vote to stop progression. Looks solid to play for a couple years up to PoP

[Oleris]

When the server is opened, only zones, classes, and races that existed when EverQuest first launched will be available, with some exceptions.
Paineel and the Hole will be open.

The Temple of Solusek Ro will be open.

Everyone will start at level 1. There is no tutorial, characters can not transfer to this server, and Heroic Characters are not available to be redeemed.

When raid targets are defeated, they will be broadcast across the server. When all of the raid targets in an expansion are defeated, a countdown begins.

For EverQuest, Kunark, Velious, Luclin, and Planes of Power, this countdown will be six months.
For Gates of Discord and all following expansions, this countdown will be three months.
Polls are scheduled to start every two weeks, on every other Monday. May 4th was the most recent, May 18th will be the next, and so on.

If the countdown timer ends with at least a full 168-hour week left before the current poll ends, the current poll will be activated. If there is less than a full week left in the current poll, the next one will be activated.

When a poll is active, you will go to a Priest of Discord and say 'vote.' If you're within 21 levels of the current level cap, you are allowed to vote.
When the poll ends, if more people voted 'yes' to the next expansion than 'no,' the next expansion will open and the cycle begins again.

[Kutsumo]

Would love to see it stop progression on PoP, I'd have to split time with P99 for sure.

[Oleris]

can always vote to stop progression... just need enough people to force it every 2 weeks.

[Millburn]

Q: Will spells go back to "Ranks" every 4/5 levels, or stay split up as they are?

They will use the same data that is on live servers, so they will be split up among levels and in most cases will have the same effectiveness. Some spells (like Harm Touch) have limits that make them do less damage on Progression servers until later expansions have been unlocked.

WELL THAT'S ENCOURAGING.

[Oleris]

yeah, still thinking of going monk/shaman/mage box now though since monk weapon and mage pet will be uber. I could always PL with monk/shaman as well if it doesn't work out.

[Kutsumo]

yeah, still thinking of going monk/shaman/mage box now though since monk weapon and mage pet will be uber. I could always PL with monk/shaman as well if it doesn't work out.

Yeah that should be a pretty nice combo. I expect to be 3 boxing as well if I play there, but I want to try enc/mag/clr assuming pet agro is as good as it is on live now. Will be hardmode maintaining charm pet though.

[Clark]

Oleris your signature is amazing. :)

[rollin5k]

The problem is going to be relying on idiots to tell them what to do. Haven't they realized idiots need to be spoon fed good shit (classic) or they'll choose sugar water (live)

[Reemer]

xp is going to be double the origonal, spells every level, no hell levels.

i will try the server, but under protest.

[Catashe]

xp is going to be double the origonal, spells every level, no hell levels.

i will try the server, but under protest.

They probably doing that mostly to try and make the solo classes happy since on Fippy and Vulak the cap they put on exp it hurt solo classes like necros alot where soloing was pointless cause you needed the group xp bonus to do anything.. But hey what can you do...

[Rec]

I knew maximum nostalgia would win, it was unstoppable!

[Pringles]

No one else is disappointed about exp pots and bags being available in the pay to win shop?

[Oleris]

No one else is disappointed about exp pots and bags being available in the pay to win shop?

ehhhhh, they said there won't be anything game breaking. I don't mind XP pots at all when I decide to PL an alt with a druid or something.

[Rec]

If we have 6 months in classic I don't think anyone needs a potion or any other exp rate than 1x

[pharmakos]

XP potions will maybe ruin immersion for the poopsockers during the first week after each level cap increase.

doesn't really hurt anything else imo, and adds a revenue stream for a game that is getting pretty dried up.

[fastboy21]

leveling from scratch on the progression server to 50 will be "harder" than on p99 in its current state of bloated super ultra-twinks. don't get me wrong, I love it on p99 (and am glad to have my own twinks running around with epics at lvl 1 etc.) but p99 for most of us that have been here a while isn't all that "hard" to level a char on.

fun is fun. enjoy p99 and the coming progression server for what they are. i've had a ton of fun here and on both the old progression servers. i look forward to it because I know it will be fun again this time.

[Tenloar]

So the Everquest progression server Ragefire is live (https://www.everquest.com/news/ragefire-time-locked-progression-server-live), will you be trying it out?

[Oleris]

took me like 3 hours to beta buff to 20, and find out where all my missing spells were. I wish they would have chose characters that had full spellbooks. Went to where they should be sold with nothing on the merchants. Sent in some bug reports for those. Overall, pretty smooth. Monks/mage gonna be OP from my experience so far. Think I will stick to shaman/mage/monk trio right now and switch out the mage with something else later on.

[Rooj]

I was actually interested in this, cause to be honest I want P99 to continue the timeline so I can experience content that I never got to. But the more I read about it the more I don't like. :\ I can't believe they're allowing XP potions... You just don't do that on a new server. Although from what I hear the EXP isn't classic which is also disappointing. I might give in and try it sometime, I'd at least like to hear how the population is.

[Champion_Standing]

Soooooo many mages on the beta server lol

[fastboy21]

class balance in classic eq stinks. mages and monks going to rule the server. its not even close. a group of mages that know how to play right can pretty much kill any boss mob in the game.

it isn't a bad thing...just how it is.