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Sixpence
04-18-2015, 02:42 PM
While many of my friends jumped over to TZ back in the day I stayed on Vazaelle & while I loved it there, I always wondered...how the hell do you cope?
I've been playing Eq on & off for 15 years. With Kid's, work, life etc, playing as & when I found the time & recently started out life again on 99 Blue
work nights One week every Five & when I'm done with my Firewall checks I always seem to gravitate back to Youtube & lately, have been watching Sirken's Channel.
I find it enough of a challenge PvE, let alone having someone gank you after a nights hard work.
I always envisioned you (Red) being energy drink fuelled insomniac's with Anger issues.
& why does it seem that sometimes some characters are left alone (I mean in a zone you've just cleared or entered etc), is it down to guild affilliations?
How do you tell who is who?? /Assist & a gameplan I assume?
Anyway, /kudos to you as it looks like a whole new level of Fun.
dontbanpls
04-18-2015, 02:50 PM
I just love it. It's really that simple.
Sixpence
04-18-2015, 02:56 PM
Fair enough, but being honest, do you think a newbie (to Red) really could have 'fun' without smashing the monitors to bit's in frustration?
I know my zones & raided a little, but it looks like a whole new level.
dontbanpls
04-18-2015, 03:07 PM
Yes I do because I see it happen quite often. To be fair that monitor smashing frustration is part of the appeal of the server IMO. Plenty of people manage to avoid it, others deal with it well, and some don't. If you want to give it an earnest try I believe you will regret not doing it sooner.
Pseudechis
04-18-2015, 03:13 PM
Fair enough, but being honest, do you think a newbie (to Red) really could have 'fun' without smashing the monitors to bit's in frustration?
I know my zones & raided a little, but it looks like a whole new level.
Did it last September as a woodelf warrior. Managed fine you quickly meet a core group leveljng up and build from there.
Sixpence
04-18-2015, 03:14 PM
I've rolled a Troll Tank & will see how I get on. It's exciting & I'm looking forward to getting stuck into a whole new mindset.
Is there a 'tip's & tricks for not getting your ass handed to you repeatedly' thread/post anyplace that could help a newbie out?
Sixpence
04-18-2015, 03:34 PM
Did it last September as a woodelf warrior. Managed fine you quickly meet a core group leveljng up and build from there.
That's reassuring to hear Pseu, cheers fella.
Casey VII
04-18-2015, 04:17 PM
You'll never go back. Best game/server
Grimjaw
04-18-2015, 04:23 PM
I always envisioned you (Red) being energy drink fuelled insomniac's with Anger issues.
wow... pretty much nailed it... good job! (search red forums for proof)
Even our tutorials are written by sociopaths (as you requested):
E.B.K. BLUUHD's guide to playing a Dark Elf Shadow Knight on the PvP server (https://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=67121)
Sixpence
04-18-2015, 05:18 PM
Jeez..That makes for some uncomfortable reading.
Cheers GrimJaw.
Sixpence
04-18-2015, 05:22 PM
One thing that does leave me confused is. Is it set up as Good v Bad?
From the vid's that I've watched this doesn't seem to be the case & more of a crazy free-for-all.
How the hell do you know who is who & who's an ally or no?
Videri
04-18-2015, 05:35 PM
Welcome to Red! Here are a few tips to avoid twink PKs:
• do /anon or /role, either of which will hide your level, class/race, and location; /anon also hides guild tag (though people in the same zone as you can use /guildstatus to find out)
• don't make your level/location known in /ooc (which is a server-wide channel on Red99). For instance, /ooc'ing "22 bard lfg in Mistmoore" has the potential to attract a predatory PK, as does "20-26 Mistmoore group lf3m pref dps/heals" (3 noobs in Mistmoore without DPS or a healer?? Sounds delicious!!). Instead, just don't include location: "22 bard lfg," "20-26 group lfm pst," then let people send you tells.
• level anywhere but Faydwer. The most popular leveling route is GFay > CB > Unrest > MM > CoM, so that's where the twink PKs go. However, there are excellent leveling zones available, especially if you form a group then buy a port there. Blackburrow, West Karana bandits, Befallen 10-20+, Najena, SolA, South Karana, Paw, Kerra Isle, LOIO, more. Many of these zones also have some useful little loot items.
DrunkGrunt11b
04-18-2015, 05:43 PM
Once you have killed there is no going back...
Videri
04-18-2015, 05:43 PM
I always envisioned you (Red) being energy drink fuelled insomniac's with Anger issues.
A lot of us are nice people looking for a greater challenge than that posed by the simple AI in EQ. If I can defeat other players, then I'll know I'm good. If it's a close fight, I know I'm expanding the limits of my abilities.
I never drink energy drinks; and I no longer have anger issues (since I started studying Buddhism / anger management / and practicing clear communication skills during high school). However, I do tend to be a night owl.
How do you tell who is who?? /Assist & a gameplan I assume?
You mean in mass PvP? Yeah, /assist, as well as /assist NameOfMainAssist. Usually a DPS class plays the role of main assist. Also, each class has a role(s) in group PvP - clerics heal but also dispell, blind, root, stun if possible; druids use their deadly DoTs, thorns on allies when facing fast melee attackers like rogues and monks; rogues go for the kill; etc...
Anyway, /kudos to you as it looks like a whole new level of Fun.
Yes, it is!!! I hope you and others find it to your liking and stick around.
Sixpence
04-18-2015, 05:43 PM
Welcome to Red! Here are a few tips to avoid twink PKs:
• do /anon or /role, either of which will hide your level, class/race, and location; /anon also hides guild tag (though people in the same zone as you can use /guildstatus to find out)
• don't make your level/location known in /ooc (which is a server-wide channel on Red99). For instance, /ooc'ing "22 bard lfg in Mistmoore" has the potential to attract a predatory PK, as does "20-26 Mistmoore group lf3m pref dps/heals" (3 noobs in Mistmoore without DPS or a healer?? Sounds delicious!!). Instead, just don't include location: "22 bard lfg," "20-26 group lfm pst," then let people send you tells.
• level anywhere but Faydwer. The most popular leveling route is GFay > CB > Unrest > MM > CoM, so that's where the twink PKs go. However, there are excellent leveling zones available, especially if you form a group then buy a port there. Blackburrow, West Karana bandits, Befallen 10-20+, Najena, SolA, South Karana, Paw, Kerra Isle, LOIO, more. Many of these zones also have some useful little loot items.
Thank you Videri, that's some great tip's.
I'm thinking that you have to assume everyone is out to toast you?
I'm also assuming that people will Lie via tell's, trying to get info out of you for a possible Kill?
So when you do make some friend's, I imagine you learn to appreciate them a Lot more. Thanks again for the reply.
Sixpence
04-18-2015, 05:46 PM
In a group PVP fight would you always aim to take down the healer, chanter first?
I'm still unclear if you have 'sides' as it were? Or is it a free for all ?
The vid's I've been watching show Gnome Wizards taking out Gnome Wizards etc, so it's not Good V Evil ?
Sixpence
04-18-2015, 05:50 PM
Apologies for these daft question's, but It's something that has always puzzled me about Red.
Videri
04-18-2015, 06:01 PM
I'm thinking that you have to assume everyone is out to toast you?
That's a safe assumption, but most players under 50 are focused on leveling up - especially anyone that looks mostly naked, hehe. Act a little "paranoid" - keep Gate memmed, buy a 10-dose SoW potion, put your buffs in reverse priority order so a couple useless ones get dispelled first (protect HP and SoW buffs). Don't sit near melee classes - that lets them do max damage on their first hit. Get some form of see invis asap. "Roll deep" - travel with allies. Use Teamspeak to coordinate with them.
I'm also assuming that people will Lie via tell's, trying to get info out of you for a possible Kill?
Perhaps surprisingly, I can't think of times people have straight-up lied to me. I think it's a big no-no to say "Let's group" and then show up and attack. However, some players will attack groupmates who AFK for too long in a group (leeching exp) or who play badly enough. If someone trains the group or fails to heal a tank, maybe twice...you can kill them. On Red you have permission to be a badass. It might be tough to be the big dog if you're not twinked, though, so I guess you can do that on your second character.
So when you do make some friend's, I imagine you learn to appreciate them a Lot more.
Indeed. Meeting trustworthy and helpful players is great - especially if they're gung-ho PvPers.
Sixpence
04-18-2015, 06:03 PM
Videri
Thank you, these are great tip's & most welcome.
Kazly
04-18-2015, 06:15 PM
Heya :) I was originally on xegony then switched to TZ to join my roommate.
PvP servers are fun - however, you need to expepct to be killed. Sometimes after getting frustrated, i'd just have to switch to my low level character and level him for a bit to let the person killing me get bored.
Othertimes, it's a blast hunting down others hehe.
I recently joined p1999 blue server and switched to red about a week ago. So far, people have been nothing but nice at my low level. Will I run into twinks out for blood? I'm sure. But its part of the server, and I can always switch to my iksar for a bit if I need to.
Videri
04-18-2015, 06:22 PM
In a group PVP fight would you always aim to take down the healer, chanter first?
I'm still learning this stuff, so maybe more experienced players can chime in, but certain classes will be higher-priority targets. Yes, enchanters should be high-priority, since they are troublesome with tash, mez, strength debuffs like enfeeblement/cripple, and more, and they're squishy (especially if you can dispell their rune). Shamans are another target, as their malo spells are very important for rooting/snaring players with high MR, which is very important for killing them; plus, they have heals and dangerous DoTs and nukes. Much of the same goes for mages. And so on...I'd like to write this up for all classes. Maybe others want to add some info to this thread.
I'm still unclear if you have 'sides' as it were? Or is it a free for all ? The vid's I've been watching show Gnome Wizards taking out Gnome Wizards etc, so it's not Good V Evil ?
Yep, it's a total free-for-all within 4 levels above or below you. Level 1s cannot be attacked in certain zones; yellow text is only generated when players level 10 or higher are killed. Players organize themselves into guilds, which compete for raid targets.
This is great. As an officer of <Fresh>, it's good to know what new players want to know.
Sixpence
04-18-2015, 06:44 PM
It's really helping me click it all into place.
I had always assumed it was Good v Evil & hadn't even considered the fact you might get ganked by your own Race, let alone Party.
I now have visions of the Tanks sat on their own between pulls ;) Throw that last Heal or keep the mana in case you get attacked by your own party, that's a lot to consider.
Getting done on your own Corpse Run must be a bloody nightmare...or, as it seems just 'Deal with it'.
Sounds Like ACE fun :) & I can finally see the appeal. I'll be spending time on Red Next week, in a ghillie suit...
Farzo
04-18-2015, 07:14 PM
yah Sixpence, think of those quiet awkward late 20's early 30's people you meet that give a shiver down your back coz something is off about them.
no gf's/wife
rent bumpy side room of garage off family member
wearing ratty clothes, and work 2-3 days a week, bags under eyes from playing 12 hours a day on their days off, slighty plump body size.
that's about 75% of Red99's population
the other 25% have fulltime/gfs/wives jobs and think they are killing irl
all in all everyone here is pretty twisted, or has some tweek that makes them play a 16 year old game..luv it
Slathar
04-18-2015, 07:17 PM
yah Sixpence, think of those quiet awkward mid 20's early 30's people you meet that give a shiver down your back coz something is off about them.
wearing ratty clothes, and work 2-3 days a week, bags under eyes from playing 12 hours a day on their days off, slighty plump body size.
that's about 75% of Red99's population
add a weird wispy amish person beard and a third-trimester male pregnancy from butt insemination and youve got Farzo
Farzo
04-18-2015, 07:21 PM
add a weird wispy amish person beard and a third-trimester male pregnancy from butt insemination and youve got Farzo
^--this poster is one of the 'residential' nut jobs.
*whispers* he thinks he drives an Italian sports car when its actually a 1983 toyota corolla with hubcaps missing*
p.s requote my post I edited more in.
Slathar
04-18-2015, 07:23 PM
^--this poster is one of the 'residential' nut jobs.
p.s requote my post I edited more in.
yes im insane. im fat unemployed and have no skills to speak of
how mad does it make you?
Videri
04-18-2015, 07:23 PM
Getting done on your own Corpse Run must be a bloody nightmare...or, as it seems just 'Deal with it'.
Actually, you can call "LNS," for "loot and scoot," and then 2 things happen: the person or group who killed you can't kill you again; and, after you loot up, you have to stay out of that zone for 1 hour after you leave the zone. Take a screenshot if attacked so you can petition if they violate LNS. Most players don't violate LNS, as they risk getting banned.
I can finally see the appeal.
Ha!
Yes, it's rough and crazy and hostile, like the Wild West of EverQuest. The Buddhists might call it an opportunity to practice nonattachment. Anyway, it's not hard to make friends and every success is that much more satisfying.
Sixpence
04-18-2015, 07:32 PM
yah Sixpence, think of those quiet awkward late 20's early 30's people you meet that give a shiver down your back coz something is off about them.
no gf's/wife
rent bumpy side room of garage off family member
wearing ratty clothes, and work 2-3 days a week, bags under eyes from playing 12 hours a day on their days off, slighty plump body size.
that's about 75% of Red99's population
the other 25% have fulltime/gfs/wives jobs and think they are killing irl
all in all everyone here is pretty twisted, or has some tweek that makes them play a 16 year old game..luv it
Farzo, that made me chuckle.
I was the former & am glad to say that made it to the latter :)
Sixpence
04-18-2015, 07:34 PM
I Keep my NIN Hoodie, just for playing Eq.
I Really appreciate the feedback on here folks, It really is helping me.
Jimmybones
04-18-2015, 08:47 PM
add a weird wispy amish person beard and a third-trimester male pregnancy from butt insemination and youve got Farzo
oh my lord
Gustoo
04-19-2015, 12:42 AM
If you are cool you won't have any problems. Gotta role play a toon you love.
Sixpence
04-19-2015, 12:57 AM
Gustoo. Cheers fella.
Not 100% a Tank is a good idea...but I'll see how it pan's out.
Corvus
04-19-2015, 01:28 AM
Fair enough, but being honest, do you think a newbie (to Red) really could have 'fun' without smashing the monitors to bit's in frustration?
I know my zones & raided a little, but it looks like a whole new level.
I'm new to Red and I've had more fun then I did on Blue and I'm not even that crazy about PvP. I've actually found more groups on Red then I ever did on Blue and it just makes the game more fun. As long as you realize that this is a game you should be fine. If I get killed it's pretty much a "ah shit" and I go back to doing whatever.
Sixpence
04-19-2015, 01:35 AM
Corvus
Are you always keeping an eye on your group mates or is the inter PK'ing more the exception to the rule ?
Corvus
04-19-2015, 01:41 AM
From my personal experience (pretty limited only level 20) I've yet to have any issue with someone in my group while exping. Like someone mentioned before it seems most people under level 50 just want to group up for the extra exp modifier and get those levels asap.
I was pretty paranoid at first when I was getting the hang of things but I've pretty much adjusted and live by the "to hell with it" attitude and don't even worry about it. I really don't even use anon anymore and people have actually messaged me to group because of it. I would highly recommend grouping as much as possible the exp bonus is insanely fast.
pgerman
04-19-2015, 04:52 AM
I personally leveled 10 level 60s with no pvp involved, at 6x the exp rate of blue
Now i just play one day a week loot some pixels, then update my facebook page.
iruinedyourday
04-19-2015, 05:13 AM
yea my experiance is a lot like corvus's. But my ratio is atrocious omg.
Clark
04-19-2015, 05:50 AM
yah Sixpence, think of those quiet awkward late 20's early 30's people you meet that give a shiver down your back coz something is off about them.
no gf's/wife
rent bumpy side room of garage off family member
wearing ratty clothes, and work 2-3 days a week, bags under eyes from playing 12 hours a day on their days off, slighty plump body size.
that's about 75% of Red99's population
the other 25% have fulltime/gfs/wives jobs and think they are killing irl
all in all everyone here is pretty twisted, or has some tweek that makes them play a 16 year old game..luv it
http://weknowmemes.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/long-ass-day.jpg
El Camacho
04-19-2015, 09:30 AM
Here is my advice from new player to new player.
Most people 1-50 are just looking to group and gain levels. If you get in a group things should be ok with the group members.
Travelling around is where you will be most at danger when you pass by a random person in your level range or if you hang out at druid/wizard portal areas long enough you are bound to get a fight.
In dungeons 50 and under it is mostly twinks who like to run through and kill a few new players that have no chance of fighting back. Learn who they are and have fight, escape or recovery plans ahead of time. Use r99pvp.com and look at the dungeon you are heading to and you will easily see who the twink killers are by the 400 kills they have there. Then just watch out for them with /who. Still it is good learning experience even if you can't win.
Also if you are not in a group or dungeon, I highly recommend not turning on roleplay or anonymous to hide your level or locations. First you will find that people will randomly send you tell to join their group or do things. Second, you will need to build pvp experience somehow, so you might as well start learning from level 1.
Veltira
04-19-2015, 01:44 PM
It really comes down to this: regardless of why you end up in PVP embrace it as a part of the experience and learn from it. When I get dunked I take the Andrew Luck approach and compliment my attacker, if you don't get heated and look at the situation objectively the loser usually made a sloppy erro; he didnt invis or chose not to check the zone regularly. My favorite person on red once said something to me that made PVP easier to "get" for me. He said: "PVP on this box is 10% skill, the rest is all luck and preparation." So every time I head somewhere it's fully buffed, with a pumice, with the right spell set for the zone I'm moving to. I see new players with the approach being discussed here about just exping and if they get killed just taking it and moving on. I like that you aren't taking to OOC butthurt but you are missing an opportunity to make yourself stronger by acknowledging your part in the fight.
Knuckle
04-19-2015, 01:46 PM
While many of my friends jumped over to TZ back in the day I stayed on Vazaelle & while I loved it there, I always wondered...how the hell do you cope?
I've been playing Eq on & off for 15 years. With Kid's, work, life etc, playing as & when I found the time & recently started out life again on 99 Blue
work nights One week every Five & when I'm done with my Firewall checks I always seem to gravitate back to Youtube & lately, have been watching Sirken's Channel.
I find it enough of a challenge PvE, let alone having someone gank you after a nights hard work.
I always envisioned you (Red) being energy drink fuelled insomniac's with Anger issues.
& why does it seem that sometimes some characters are left alone (I mean in a zone you've just cleared or entered etc), is it down to guild affilliations?
How do you tell who is who?? /Assist & a gameplan I assume?
Anyway, /kudos to you as it looks like a whole new level of Fun.
need lots of free time and very little commitment from loved ones, then its a breeze, ive found that my early 20s made this much easier, i was working less hours, not chasing pussy, and putting zero time in the gym. Now its a bitch to stay online long enough to get a yellow xp.
Sixpence
04-19-2015, 04:39 PM
Ain't that the truth Knuckle.
I took a hiatus while the boys were little but now they'd rather spend time on the X-box killing their friends than kicking a ball around with Dad I found myself with the time to actually play again & it's great.
Sixpence
04-19-2015, 04:40 PM
My playtime is still very casual. But I'm aiming to play at least One night per week to get some kind of social circle back up & running.
Swish
04-19-2015, 08:32 PM
Sixpence if you want any cheap magic resist / stat gear made send me a PM, I'll do it at cost price as you level. Just PM when you need something else made etc, parked my enchanter at NFP bank ;)
Larken
04-19-2015, 09:42 PM
It really comes down to this: regardless of why you end up in PVP embrace it as a part of the experience and learn from it. When I get dunked I take the Andrew Luck approach and compliment my attacker, if you don't get heated and look at the situation objectively the loser usually made a sloppy erro; he didnt invis or chose not to check the zone regularly. My favorite person on red once said something to me that made PVP easier to "get" for me. He said: "PVP on this box is 10% skill, the rest is all luck and preparation." So every time I head somewhere it's fully buffed, with a pumice, with the right spell set for the zone I'm moving to. I see new players with the approach being discussed here about just exping and if they get killed just taking it and moving on. I like that you aren't taking to OOC butthurt but you are missing an opportunity to make yourself stronger by acknowledging your part in the fight.
Sums it up in a very eloquent way, bravo.
Sixpence
04-19-2015, 10:27 PM
Sixpence if you want any cheap magic resist / stat gear made send me a PM, I'll do it at cost price as you level. Just PM when you need something else made etc, parked my enchanter at NFP bank ;)
That's kind Swish, Thank you.
Sixpence
04-19-2015, 10:34 PM
Here is my advice from new player to new player.
I highly recommend not turning on roleplay or anonymous to hide your level or locations. First you will find that people will randomly send you tell to join their group or do things. Second, you will need to build pvp experience somehow, so you might as well start learning from level 1.
I figured I'd not use /anon until I had something worth hiding. Really appreciate the tip's, thank you.
One thing that does puzzle me, why would guild mates take out each other? Is it Boredom??
Sixpence
04-19-2015, 10:41 PM
It really comes down to this: regardless of why you end up in PVP embrace it as a part of the experience and learn from it. When I get dunked I take the Andrew Luck approach and compliment my attacker, if you don't get heated and look at the situation objectively the loser usually made a sloppy erro; he didnt invis or chose not to check the zone regularly. My favorite person on red once said something to me that made PVP easier to "get" for me. He said: "PVP on this box is 10% skill, the rest is all luck and preparation." So every time I head somewhere it's fully buffed, with a pumice, with the right spell set for the zone I'm moving to. I see new players with the approach being discussed here about just exping and if they get killed just taking it and moving on. I like that you aren't taking to OOC butthurt but you are missing an opportunity to make yourself stronger by acknowledging your part in the fight.
That sounds like it's the only way with I'll be able to cope eating the (multiple no doubt) deaths. Thanks again Veltira, these are all really helpful tip's & it's slowly coming together. Itching to get stuck in.
El Camacho
04-20-2015, 12:30 AM
I figured I'd not use /anon until I had something worth hiding. Really appreciate the tip's, thank you.
One thing that does puzzle me, why would guild mates take out each other? Is it Boredom??
Good question, but I'm still flying solo right now.
BardPop
04-20-2015, 02:32 AM
How do we do it, as in handle pvp? Sportsmanship, if you take a 16 year old game more serious then it should be. Then there might be an issue. Like gongshow says every one is a human being behind the keyboard, and if you treat somebody like shit because you value pixels/other imaginary things more then them you got problems. Its a competitive game and we play for competition but the extent you go to to play is entirely up to you.
Bazia
04-20-2015, 03:11 AM
90 man guild very competitive
Slathar
04-20-2015, 08:34 AM
How do we do it, as in handle pvp? Sportsmanship, if you take a 16 year old game more serious then it should be. Then there might be an issue. Like gongshow says every one is a human being behind the keyboard, and if you treat somebody like shit because you value pixels/other imaginary things more then them you got problems. Its a competitive game and we play for competition but the extent you go to to play is entirely up to you.
yeah gongshow doesnt take it seriously
not like he leveled a 2nd monk to 60 after entering a rage-trance due to losing the botb but yeah thats not taking it seriously fo sho
Tassador
04-20-2015, 09:11 AM
Losing or winning a botb in eq in serious business and sig worthy if you win.
Littlegyno 13.0
04-20-2015, 10:36 AM
yeah gongshow doesnt take it seriously
not like he leveled a 2nd monk to 60 after entering a rage-trance due to losing the botb but yeah thats not taking it seriously fo sho
gongshow has 2 lvl 60 characters. you have like 6. but he's taking it too seriously.
kek.
luv u slathar.
Stasis01
04-20-2015, 10:48 AM
Slathar is the most emotionally invested player on this box in regards to personalities and past wrongdoings.
But if someone cares about playing the game seriously, that's just nerdy.
Pikrib
04-20-2015, 11:02 AM
I bet Stasis has a velious wish list magelo already created.
Stasis01
04-20-2015, 11:05 AM
Nah I'm way back of the bus due to the fact that the guy I backed turned out to suck.
I'll just take sloppy seconds and scraps that Gong and Colgate throw to me.
Littlegyno 13.0
04-20-2015, 11:09 AM
Nah I'm way back of the bus due to the fact that the guy I backed turned out to suck.
I'll just take sloppy seconds and scraps that Gong and Colgate throw to me.
naw, take ur seat at the table of empire champs, stacey.
u don't deserve to be given scraps.
Slathar
04-20-2015, 12:42 PM
Slathar is the most emotionally invested player on this box in regards to personalities and past wrongdoings.
But if someone cares about playing the game seriously, that's just nerdy.
jibekn
04-20-2015, 12:45 PM
im definitely not a human behind a keyboard, and thats enough to prove you wrong.
Veltira
04-20-2015, 01:46 PM
ITT: mortals discussing gods
Page two and this is a good thread. Will continue reading but expect it to become complete shit by page 5. This is what red has been allowed to become.
Sixpence
04-20-2015, 07:39 PM
One thing that still puzzles me.
I've been reading the Kill leader boards & there are some inter guild kills.
Is it a case of "keep your friends close but your enemies closer still"?
Do some people join a guild to get access & plot or are they more a case of kicks when boredom set's in??
Or am I getting carried away here with Drow House politics?
Varren
04-21-2015, 07:07 AM
Guildies might kill one another to prevent an exp death in a pve encounter or to leave a no rent key or other item on a corpse for later use. Perhaps there are other reasons, but probably not actual pvp.
Zlain
04-21-2015, 09:21 AM
Outer coined me for all muh plats 1024. yesterday in bank when I was OMW to dump it into my research skill. bastard.
Littlegyno 13.0
04-21-2015, 09:34 AM
One thing that still puzzles me.
I've been reading the Kill leader boards & there are some inter guild kills.
Is it a case of "keep your friends close but your enemies closer still"?
Do some people join a guild to get access & plot or are they more a case of kicks when boredom set's in??
Or am I getting carried away here with Drow House politics?
<empire> has plenty of drow house politics. aim chat is the biggest drow house but we got a few smaller ones.
all pras Lloth.
Ragnaros
04-21-2015, 10:10 AM
Guildy on Guildy kill also prevents meaningful yt
Archalen
04-21-2015, 12:26 PM
Did it last September as a woodelf warrior. Managed fine you quickly meet a core group leveljng up and build from there.
Just remember folks if A Woodelf Warrior can make it so can you.
Tickle-me-tiggle
04-22-2015, 10:04 AM
Honestly I joined the server via a few posts about <Fresh> and I had unrealistic expectations about the level of support lower level people get. I had higher than average expectations and was disappointed. I decided to delete that toon and re-roll without any affiliations.
I made a class I wanted to play, not one that was 'super op in pvp' and i'm now 35 in just a few days and having a blast. I have at least one friend from every guild and tons of people on /friend that aren't tagged as well. Sure i'm a shitty undergeared tank, but everyone I group with is undergeared usually.
We get griefed, people like IooL and Tegi will camp and grief you, but they want you to get upset. I've seen people yell at them and they are satisfied by that and continue to camp. I find it hard to get mad having played on VZ etc. It's a pvp server, you get griefed...that's just how it is, you will die...probably a lot on your first toon.
If I was starting again or telling some one 'how' to start I'd simply say make what you will enjoy playing and don't tag into a guild. Being in a guild will remove a lot of opportunities for you.
Do I plan on joining a guild eventually? Sure, but I think it's easy to see what each guild is about when you can openly affiliate with them without much issue. Empire obviously runs most of the raiding, Azrael I don't really know much about other then they talk a lot in ooc, lack of self control usually means a younger in age group of people. Fresh seems to always be getting killed in yellow text, but from what I understand they are just breaking into raiding...and while skill might matter some gear matters a lot more.
Slathar
04-22-2015, 12:59 PM
Honestly I joined the server via a few posts about <Fresh> and I had unrealistic expectations about the level of support lower level people get. I had higher than average expectations and was disappointed. I decided to delete that toon and re-roll without any affiliations.
I made a class I wanted to play, not one that was 'super op in pvp' and i'm now 35 in just a few days and having a blast. I have at least one friend from every guild and tons of people on /friend that aren't tagged as well. Sure i'm a shitty undergeared tank, but everyone I group with is undergeared usually.
We get griefed, people like IooL and Tegi will camp and grief you, but they want you to get upset. I've seen people yell at them and they are satisfied by that and continue to camp. I find it hard to get mad having played on VZ etc. It's a pvp server, you get griefed...that's just how it is, you will die...probably a lot on your first toon.
If I was starting again or telling some one 'how' to start I'd simply say make what you will enjoy playing and don't tag into a guild. Being in a guild will remove a lot of opportunities for you.
Do I plan on joining a guild eventually? Sure, but I think it's easy to see what each guild is about when you can openly affiliate with them without much issue. Empire obviously runs most of the raiding, Azrael I don't really know much about other then they talk a lot in ooc, lack of self control usually means a younger in age group of people. Fresh seems to always be getting killed in yellow text, but from what I understand they are just breaking into raiding...and while skill might matter some gear matters a lot more.
hey nice analysis
not
idiot
Tickle-me-tiggle
04-22-2015, 01:20 PM
http://i.imgur.com/C6Cn85s.gif
GoldScar
04-23-2015, 03:24 AM
I started on a pvp server before kunark came out and I was around 11 years old. Always had fun and figured things out for myself. I literally cannot spend more than 10 minutes on a blue server without being bored off my ass.
I originally played support classes. Cleric first, and rolled with more established players and guilds. Learned the ropes. Then a shaman, and got into high level pvp against top necros, druids, etc for solo camps like Allizewsaur. Also did team stuff with guilds. After that I played SK, led a guild, and was atop the leaderboards for my server. As an SK, I solo leveled a lot and learned to fend for myself from level 20-40 in guk. Had shit for gear. Those skills were indispensible when I got into high stakes pvp and fighting over dragons and fungi etc. Going solo to stop enemy guilds from getting valuable camps. I don't play now but other games will always pale in comparison to EQ pvp for me.
GoldScar
04-23-2015, 03:32 AM
Knuckle was a beast back on VZTZ. He had the preparation thing down, had shaman/clr/dru/etc always ready to buff up his melees that he pvped on.
I'll never forget Vitality on LoZ. He had like a 90-5 kill-death ratio as a necro. He was the only guy I couldn't 1v1. He was always prepared. Moved assertively, stealthily. He would zone in, /who, zone out. Come directly to the camp he figured you were at and get the kill. Escape if he needed to. Never not fully in the moment. I could 1v2 Cwall and Sniperfire, but couldn't f with Vitality.
Colgate
04-23-2015, 04:49 AM
necromancers were so fucking dumb on that server
hurts my brain still thinking about that
spectre pet that chain casted nearly unresistable 150 lifetap + stun, pets zoned with you so doubling up on conflag daggers was insane, 3 second cast trucidation that could be bugged to get rid of the recast time, etc.
pgerman
04-23-2015, 06:00 AM
monk avoidance works pretty good here tho, amirite
Genedin
04-23-2015, 10:35 AM
Monk avoidance works well on this server. You have to take into account monks have much less HP than a plate tank class though so it balances out.
Colgate
04-23-2015, 10:36 AM
yeah monk avoidance is very similar to what i described that necros could do on LoZ
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