New disclaimer

[Madbad]

Everquest is a registered trademark of Daybreak Game Company LLC.
Project 1999 is not associated or affiliated in any way with Daybreak Game Company LLC.


Does this new disclaimer presage our servers' demise? Post your conspiracy theories here!

[Voland]

Where did you see this?

[Glenzig]

Where did you see this?

Bottom of the screen.

[Madbad]

bottom of every page on p99 bro
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[Madbad]

WHAT DOES IT MEAN!!!!!111!!2

[Thulack]

It means that p99 is making it clear they are not part of Daybreak Gaming probably due to something they had to sign to stay running without interference from Daybreak. That would be my guess but i'm no lawyer or conspiracy theorist .

[Ezalor]

it is a disclaimer. how is this confusing to you?

[Wrench]

probably due to something they had to sign to stay running without interference from Daybreak

would be reassuring but does seem like it could also be preemptive

[Voland]

Bottom of the screen.

LOL, I never scroll down past "Post Quick Reply".

[Swish]

http://i.minus.com/i32QBSObB26Gk.gif

[Fame]

so I'm not the only one who heard velious is being rushed because we have til the end of this year before the courts decide the fate of p99?

[Sadre Spinegnawer]

No worries mates, the deal is in the works. All loot tables will just be replaced with station cash tokens redeemable on live.

win-win

[Clark]

so I'm not the only one who heard velious is being rushed because we have til the end of this year before the courts decide the fate of p99?

Damn. Game over.

[Oleris]

I would like to hear something from rogean or nilbog on this.

[webrunner5]

I would think "Our Goose is Cooked". :D But what the hell do I know. :eek:

[Sadre Spinegnawer]

In all seriousness, at this point the "intellectual property" is barely even a brand at this point. If this were a WoW emulator, then any corporate legal action would make sense because a) WoW has money, honey and b) there is an actual, ongoing brand to defend.

Everquest is a nearly valueless brand, and I highly doubt there is much money for Dawnbroke to even put one lawyer on billable hours to run after emu servers.

In fact, if anything, these emu servers are keeping the brand alive and somewhat active, and in play. Hobbyists are their friends. And that is, essentially, what we are. We are the ones keeping the franchise alive, as the business it came from is fuck up city.

The only way I can see any issues, is if they feel p99 is "releasing into the wild" actual technological assets (code) that they feel they could somehow sell.

And that would be the only glitch I can think is even remotely likely. Daybreak may decide it wants to sell emu tools, for example.

But the money problem reappears. Because if that was the plan, they would not only have to send out and enforce a C&D, but also a) somehow secure the actual work these fine hobbyists here have done so they can sell it or b) replicate it themselves so they can sell it. But that would take resources I highly doubt they have or think is worth it. Again, where is the brand motivation? And I do not think there is much of a market for one-off 16 year old game engines.

The best thing that can happen, is that Daybreak's summer progression server does well. The worst case scenario would have been, if p99 released Velious sometime after that progression server got going, and it saw a big drop in population as people came back here. That would have pissed someone off enough to pay a lawyer or two, I would reckon.

tl;dr this was another take on why p99 is releasing velious now. The disclaimer is just that, like a fansite says they are not affiliated, etc. Nothing to see. Unless the live prog server fails. So re-open your subs.

[myriverse]

so I'm not the only one who heard velious is being rushed because we have til the end of this year before the courts decide the fate of p99?
The Voices! The Voices!

[Seltius]

The demon cat in Swish's avatar is taking over Sony and has decided to bring down the hammer of doom on P99 in between eating grass.

[FatMice]

Maybe we will finally here the end of "it's not classic."

This should be an understanding that we are playing on private server, with custom content and process of a game that reflects a game that existed 15 years ago. I am sure the management team understands that due to their development of their content on their server has brought the game we are playing to a point that is far different than what the developers did and how they did it when Everquest was live even though the product looks the same. (Long sentence.)

While they clearly have had conversation with the original development team and understand the intellectual grey areas. I would imagine this remains in the names and nouns of the product we are looking at; ie please just don't change the name to Project 1999: Classic Everrquest; Ikssars, Tuunare.

Refer to the fact that P99 is a donation based organization.

[Ele]

Maybe we will finally here the end of "it's not classic."

This should be an understanding that we are playing on private server, with custom content and process of a game that reflects a game that existed 15 years ago. I am sure the management team understands that due to their development of their content on their server has brought the game we are playing to a point that is far different than what the developers did and how they did it when Everquest was live even though the product looks the same. (Long sentence.)

While they clearly have had conversation with the original development team and understand the intellectual grey areas. I would imagine this remains in the names and nouns of the product we are looking at; ie please just don't change the name to Project 1999: Classic Everrquest; Ikssars, Tuunare.

Refer to the fact that P99 is a donation based organization.

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[Madbad]

http://i.imgur.com/aEkjLKl.gif

[FatMice]

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Yea I don't know. Long day.

Shits not classic?

[radda]

it is a disclaimer. how is this confusing to you?

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[Cazlo]

Yea I don't know. Long day.

Shits not classic?

I got what you were saying. Essentially that p99 may have to do something stupid like changing Npc/location/race names or the spelling of them at least (ikkssar,vellious, etc.) in order to avoid being shut down which would effectively end the era of people saying "shits not classic" because by law they literally wouldn't be able to have things exactly the way they were on live. Something to that effect anyway.

That way the server could be called a custom content server and not an exact replication of another company's product.

[Seltius]

I could see Sony(I will never call them Daybreak) since they are releasing a Progression server(I am sure will have Sony cash and IGP) they will not or would not want competition. They will see P99 as stealing over 1000 of their potential wallets.

At the same time I doubt EQ(Sony) in its current incarnation looks anything like P99 so they really cannot at this point say its the same game. /shrug I am sure thats a thin arguement if you get lawyers involved but its there none the less.

[Swish]

We're doomed! Servers coming down May 28th! Hide yo kids, hide yo wife.

http://www.woudhuysen.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/the-end-is-nigh.jpg

[Seltius]

We're doomed! Servers coming down May 28th! Hide yo kids, hide yo wife.

http://www.woudhuysen.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/the-end-is-nigh.jpg

Its all Swish's fault. I heard he traded his wife for Sony Cash a long time ago. Hes a Sony spai!

*adjusts oversized Armadillo shell hat*

[Madbad]

http://i.imgur.com/6L31WJo.jpg?1

[Telin]

I even have a disclaimer on my kelethin video.. Just so people know I am not taking credit for the music. This is standard and means nothing.

[loramin]

https://drive.google.com/thumbnail?id=0By8c90EgqCuSRVg1Mk5IQklmNW8&authuser=0&v=1429924789015&sz=w1896-h835

P.S. Yes I'm a terrible photoshopper.

[Madbad]

This is standard and means nothing.

no u

[citizen1080]

Just in case the tinfoil wins...lets start the mob renaming process now.

Old Name:
Cazic Thule - God of Fear

New Name:
Walter

[Millburn]

Just in case the tinfoil wins...lets start the mob renaming process now.

Old Name:
Cazic Thule - God of Fear

New Name:
Walter

Old Name:
Hadden

New Name:
Once Daily Petition Machine

[Inanna]

With the amount od "lawyers" active on p99 forums we have nothing to worry. Daybreak would rather stab themselves than go against the lawyer army.

[Oleris]

asked rogean about it when hew as streaming and all he told me was """ :D """

[Jimjam]

This event is what the rules lawyers have been gearing up for.

[Goldrock]

Just means the p99 cant claim originality over the trademark is all. In otherwords they cant profit off someone elses work of art whatever.

[Swish]

Its all Swish's fault. I heard he traded his wife for Sony Cash a long time ago. Hes a Sony spai!

*adjusts oversized Armadillo shell hat*

o man, you should see those station cash deals tho! I'd cash my family out in an instant for vanity pixels.