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Logansrun
04-26-2015, 05:26 PM
I've recently started a druid on p1999, and I'm trying to find some good places to root/rot. Charming is just not my cup of tea, and I've never been very good at it. Currently I'm 14. Does anyone have a good list of places for this technique?

Daldaen
04-26-2015, 06:19 PM
To start off I'd suggest trying your hand at charming in East Karana gorge hounds and griffawns or somewhere with lots of animals, and space to kite around. The only way you get better is by trying it out some more. With SoW and lots of open space it's tough for things to go badly. It's very easy to learn in such an environment.

If you're vehemently opposed to that... At that level Druids only have stinging swarm and our only root lasts only 48sec. It makes root rotting very difficult. Could try East Karana Wolves here as well?

At 24/29 root rotting is far more viable. In this level range with wolf form + harmony you can single pull any mob in Unrest. Also at 24/29 you get Creeping Crud, Immolate and better root. Root rotting 2nd floor/basement is decent exp because of how easily wolf form and harmony let you single pull mobs. Not close to the exp charming would give but it's Better than grouping.

Zardian
04-26-2015, 09:16 PM
As a 28 shaman, I'm getting bored with Lake of Ill omen, any suggestions for 29-34? I'll try anything after I ding 29.
Mistmoore? FRontier M? Advice please

loramin
04-26-2015, 10:01 PM
I've recently started a druid on p1999, and I'm trying to find some good places to play him like a shaman.

FTFY. Clearly the answer is to re-roll as a Shaman ;)

Seriously though, charming is great and not that hard. I play a shaman as my main, so when I first started my druid alt I too tried to play him like a shaman. It didn't work that well, so I gave in and started charming. At first it took some practice, but now it's all I do, and I suspect that if you give it a chance you'll have a similar experience.

Personally I wouldn't recommend going to East Karana quite yet though; maybe wait until you're 19 or so. First I'd recommend heading to South Karana to kill elephant calves. Like East Karana it's a great place to learn to charm, as there's plenty of room.

Also, at your level I think you can still do West Commons. If nothing else, the piranhas in the lakes should be appropriate for your level, and since the EC tunnel is so close by you can go pick up a chloro and a clarity first. With those buffs you should be able to play any way you want, and you put off charming for another level or two.

Nycon43
04-26-2015, 10:02 PM
Group in MM, solo in south karana/rathe mountain giant skeles

loramin
04-26-2015, 10:07 PM
As a 28 shaman, I'm getting bored with Lake of Ill omen, any suggestions for 29-34? I'll try anything after I ding 29.
Mistmoore? FRontier M? Advice please

http://wiki.project1999.com/Per-Level_Hunting_Guide

While it was written to be useful for any class, it was created by a Shaman, so it's chock full of great places for them to hunt.

Personally I'd recommend the WW forest giant fort, since you're close to it (just run through the goblin caves). Alternatively South Karana is also great at your level: there are aviaks, centaurs, treants, and in a few levels gnolls, and you can sell in-zone (there's a merchant in the centaur village ... also one in the aviak village but he wouldn't sell to me).

P.S. Minor point of etiquette: if you have a different topic to ask about it's better to do so in a fresh thread, rather than "hijacking" someone else's. Not a biggee, just letting you know.


*EDIT*
Oh yeah, forgot about the Rathe mountain skeletons (good suggestion Nycon43); they're also great at your level. And Rathe Mountains are just one zone (Lake Rathe) away from South Karana, so you can easily go back and forth between them if you get bored.

GreldorEQ
04-27-2015, 03:53 PM
At level 14, I used firefist, str buff, hp buff, damage shield and treeform regen to tank Sisters camp in LFAY. As a newbie to p99 this was a great spot to make some money selling to the ranger vendor in the middle of the zone. The exp was great, too!

I really had a lot of fun there.

Alternatively, you could try root rotting in CB at tents near slave caves or on trainer mountain.

Send me a tell in game if you have any questions!

Itap
04-27-2015, 04:13 PM
Only at 29 does root rotting start to be a decent way to gain experience, but like others have said, not near as good as charming.

My druid is 31 and im currently root rotting brutes in WW, only because I'm at a weird level where theres not really decent places to charm. Grims in LoIO are greening out and I'm still a little too low to charm tigers in OT. EF is a nightmare as theres about 10 druids at all times fighting over mammoths.

I might stay with the brutes until 34 when quading and charming becomes viable

Edit - Also, root rotting is sooooo boring, unless you have things to do in between kills. I highly suggest you try your hand at charming

webrunner5
04-28-2015, 12:04 PM
I think root rotting is pretty useless unless you are a Iksar Nerco or a Troll, Iksar Shaman with Canni. You are going to be OOM every 2 minutes and have to med for 8. Sounds pretty stupid to me. :D THen what happens when you are OOM and the Mob is still alive??

Daldaen
04-28-2015, 12:10 PM
I think root rotting is pretty useless unless you are a Iksar Nerco or a Troll, Iksar Shaman with Canni. You are going to be OOM every 2 minutes and have to med for 8. Sounds pretty stupid to me. :D THen what happens when you are OOM and the Mob is still alive??

You forgot about an epic'd shaman or an epic'd Druid/necro once stacking snare/root works.

Being able to do long duration DoTs from free clickies greatly increases the viability of root rotting. But by the time those are available, the mobs you can root rot are non summoners which are generally sub-50. Which makes it mostly a 50-60 level strategy.

It's doable lower but extremely inefficient for most all classes that can do it.

kaev
04-28-2015, 01:10 PM
It's doable lower but extremely inefficient for most all classes that can do it.

Everything is relative. Rotting one mob at a time is a relaxing activity that allows you to chat with friends while gaining XP at about 10x the rate of a solo paladin (I might be underestimating that 10x, memory blurs the futility of soloing a hybrid tank.) As a bonus it leaves you free to do the occasional friend/cash/pity port. If you like, there can be more to this game than minmaxing your XP gain or poopsocking cash camps and 30 second dragon ganks. ;)

williestargell
04-28-2015, 03:02 PM
solo root rotting locations for druids:

my levels might be off a little one way or the other, it's been a long time. but this is a proven path to druid leveling via root rot. root rotting is nearly as efficient as charm killing for the simple reason that you die alot less. Once root and snare stack it will be even safer.

- At your level you want to try Nro, oasis, south ro.
- level 20-24 EK spiders at the ramp to HHP
- 24-26 mammoth and roaming aviaks in SK (this mammoth pops straight north of the centaur village at the water). Kill the elephant and sell the tusks to the centaurs, kill aviaks as able between mammoths.
- 26-34 Outside splitpaw or Everfrost (can root rot the mammoths instead of charming them)
- 34-40's - Hill giants in rathe mountains and Bouncers in Feerott, the two that spawn on each side of the river. aviaks in TD
High 40's - Burning Woods, OT, Dreadlands, FV forest giants, LoIO water goblins, OoT seafuries. Aviaks in TD still good.
50's - Burning woods inside the fort, root em where they pop. Karnors left and right moat and dog captain camps. Seafuries still good. Ice giants outside perma. The hole at zone in or just beyond drop off or if daring, the rat jails. Lguk or Seb NG camp at high 50's

Once velious comes out you can live in eastern wastes and great divide.

root rotting multiple mobs at the same time once you have clicky arms at 46 becomes really good.

If your roots are holding well don't forget to use tree form to up your mana regen, renew the root often as mana efficiency on the roots damage is pretty good anyway.

Caridry
04-30-2015, 12:14 PM
root rotting multiple mobs at the same time once you have clicky arms at 46 becomes really good.

If your roots are holding well don't forget to use tree form to up your mana regen, renew the root often as mana efficiency on the roots damage is pretty good anyway.

Is it best to still use a casted dot along with arms when rotting multiple mobs? I know at 52 you can use 3 dots by then...

kaev
04-30-2015, 12:52 PM
Is it best to still use a casted dot along with arms when rotting multiple mobs? I know at 52 you can use 3 dots by then...

IME, Winged Death + arms DoT works pretty well without emptying the manabar too fast while rotting 2-3 mobs at a time. I mostly don't use Breath of Ro as it gets more resists, and keeping that plus Winged Death on multiple mobs at same time will run you OOM fairly quickly.

Rotting is definitely less time-efficient than quadding or charming at good locations for those. Personally, I don't enjoy quadding, charm-soloing, or the competition for the good solo locations, so I avoid the rat race and get on the druid to rot when I feel like chatting with friends.

Tann
05-05-2015, 07:10 PM
solo root rotting locations for druids:
- 34-40's - Hill giants in rathe mountains and Bouncers in Feerott, the two that spawn on each side of the river.

Probably would work for druids as well:

34-40 Mines of Nurga, 5 single spawns and 1 dual spawn in the exit tunnel. Mostly casters, can line of sight root/rot and not worry about them nuking/doting you or healing themselves.

williestargell
05-06-2015, 01:39 PM
root/rotting casters is generally to be avoided. The major exceptions to root rotting casters are where good loot is involved, it is generally a very bad idea to exp on casters for druids.

Droga Chief camp is root/rot heaven for loot and is the single best example of rooting and rotting many mobs at a time. (Make sure you kill the healers near the location you are going to root mobs and leave those non-healer mobs up so that your rooted mobs don't get healed.) You might have 6-10 mobs rotting at once in the camp using nothing more than root and arms dot and keep as many spawn spots as possible clear for named to spawn. (Bind there and port out to a ring to sell your cash drops , mana stone a bit if you have one and gate back in).

This is why people make druids - to do cool stuff like this that nobody else can do.

SamwiseRed
05-06-2015, 05:08 PM
i wouldn't root rot until later levels. i havent checked the numbers but i doubt there is much a difference between root rotting and snare nuking at your level. if you are opposed to charming just find a blue mob, snare it, dot, then unload nukes til dead. afk med.

if you want to know a super secret druid techique. find a partner or two and fear kite crocs in oasis (or other animals). your fear animal spell is like 10 mana. super super super efficient. you can pretty much chain snare/fear animals with the proper setup. too easy bro.

really though, charming is fun and OP. enjoy druid life, youll have plenty of time to root rot when you are camping items.

gildor
05-10-2015, 09:42 AM
Friend up one of the million necros on the server and go to town fear kiting...got all of 28and 45% into 29 in about 2 hours last night charming and snaring while he feared and dotted mobs

Be social, even if not in full groups on your butt up for a heal on your butt...find one or two, find a corner of an unpopulated zone and do something different..enjoy the game..its wonderful

Bioraven
05-22-2015, 10:43 AM
I'm currently lvl 20 and since lvl 14 I have tried root rotting and charming, I still find charm way too dangerous and very unreliable. I don't know if I am doing anything wrong or what. But I still seem to be more inclined to root and dot rather than get myself beaten to a pulp every 5 secs.

loramin
05-22-2015, 12:16 PM
I'm currently lvl 20 and since lvl 14 I have tried root rotting and charming, I still find charm way too dangerous and very unreliable. I don't know if I am doing anything wrong or what. But I still seem to be more inclined to root and dot rather than get myself beaten to a pulp every 5 secs.

If you find you're getting beaten on a lot then you might want to try snaring both mobs and then standing back farther away from them in case charm breaks.

But if you really want to make charming easier I recommend getting a Goblin Ghazuli Ring. The ring sells for 5k, but that's just because it takes awhile to get, not because you have to go to some high level dungeon or anything: the camp is in LOIO so you could do it at your level if you're patient.

JayN
05-22-2015, 12:31 PM
Personally between the unreliability of root and shit mana to damage ratio of druid dots (especially on moving targets) id just stick to snare and nuke kiting. Outdoors preferably