Future of P99 and quality of life updates/changes

[korzek]

So this server will never see Luclin and higher expansions.
And people probably play classic for all the non quality of life changes. That each expansion in velious+ gives.
However, the server wants to keep going with the classic feel so will there ever be quality of life changes such as:

Key rings
Maps
Charater flags instead of keys
compass
bazaar/way of selling items
Instanced/spawnable high end/hard to get mobs (btw to stay more 'classic like' even when velious hits faydedar/trakanon/VS/etc shouldn't be spawnable for epics *1)
A reason to kill trash at max level (AAs/etc)
Raid UI
Inviteing others to group/raid with a command
Crafting UI
Non player teleports (even though people will still use dial a port instead of the hour long luclin teleports lol. We need to make it so you ahve to sacrifice a level 60 to be able to make a druid/wiz to keep the classic feel)
Shared banks
Mass group buffs
Zone where buffs don't decay/safe afk zones even from trainers
and the 50 million other things


Also why is /rewind in the game. Not classic and its a quality of life for both the GM and players.


Now for the real question, if the P99 server decides to make new content and stay along of the classic style, will they ever add any quality of life improvements to the game?

And on a side note, before you release a recycle server PLEASE find a way to force everyone to use pre velious UI pre velious. Thats probably the biggest exploit in the game atm. Lastly, I hope you all had a good read from this post.

* You were suppose to be able to give mobs 2 handed weapons to stop them from quading if they did not spawn with weapons which are not being added to the server despite being able to till luclin+. And to anyone who said it was a bug: so was sharks/snakes/raptors not being counted as animals till luclin/pop

[nilzark]

I am not an official of this project, but I say nay to your quality of life. Mostly this server aims to be classicish. Don't you remember the tears shed from the loss of the compass? I thought there were going to be forum riots!

[Oleris]

just give us AA's

[jarshale]

Just go play on PEQ if you want these things. They're cool with boxing as well.

[Ezalor]

there's shitloads of servers at login that have all of this stuff you want

yet instead of just playing on one of those you come to the only one that doesn't and demand these features?

[jarshale]

I am not an official of this project, but I say nay to your quality of life. Mostly this server aims to be classicish. Don't you remember the tears shed from the loss of the compass? I thought there were going to be forum riots!

Losing target rings and the map didn't go over well either. Fun times.

[Oleris]

worst was no light blues.

[korzek]

jarshale & Ezalor. I'm not requesting these, I'm listing that these existed as the game progressed. The question is will we see any (any being ANY thing that can be considered quality of life improvements) or is the essence of classic no quality of life improvements.

[Swish]

I'm open to the idea of some of these, the raid UI would be very useful for raid leaders as well as stuff like the shared bank etc.

The problem with putting them in?

http://i.imgur.com/1gBWIug.gif

Things aren't meant to be easy.

[Whirled]

Something something something......................
Shared banks ........


^THIS guy is getting a Christmas card!

[Baler]

Compass is pointless thanks to Sense Heading!
Do some fact checking before trying to play a troll.

[Portasaurus]

There is only one quality of life enhancement that we need around here, and that is adding ice cream to this ice creamless wasteland of an MMO.

At least give us root beer floats, for Karana's sake.

http://i.imgur.com/arJwGgm.jpg

[Laugher]

There is only one quality of life enhancement that we need around here, and that is adding ice cream to this ice creamless wasteland of an MMO.

At least give us root beer floats, for Karana's sake.

http://i.imgur.com/arJwGgm.jpg

Yes

[myriverse]

Compass is pointless thanks to Sense Heading!
Do some fact checking before trying to play a troll.
Not really. The only point of the compass was to save a keystroke.

[korzek]

Hmm kind of screwed up on this thread... the quality of life changes if one would happen doesn't have to be at anything I listed.

[Daldaen]

Really we should think about the opposite of this thread.

What quality of life and gameplay changes does this server have that it shouldn't at this point in time? Then let's remove those.

I've got a great list here (http://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=157229):



Hotbars - We should be limited to a single 10-slot hotbar through the duration of this server.
Chat Windows - We should be limited to a single *but resizeable and filterable* chat window for the entire life of the server.
Percentages - EQ Interfaces weren't able to display percentages for HP/Mana/Stamina in windows until after the Luclin UI was introduced. IE late 2003 (http://www.tski.co.jp/baldio/patch/20030514.html)
Mana Value - You shouldn't be able to display a mana value in your inventory window until July 2004 (http://www.tski.co.jp/baldio/patch/20040714.html)
Combat Ability Window - We shouldn't have this yet (http://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=151969)
Buff Timers - You shouldn't be able to hold ALT or hover over individual buffs and find out how much longer they have.
Item Links - You shouldn't be able to look at/create item links. This was a September 2002 (http://www.tski.co.jp/baldio/patch/20020904.html) addition.
Makeleader - This shouldn't function until July 2002 (http://www.tski.co.jp/baldio/patch/20020724.html)
Pet Window - This window wasn't added until July 2002 (http://www.tski.co.jp/baldio/patch/20020724.html)
Cycle Target Hotkey - This hotkey wasn't added until April 2004 (http://www.tski.co.jp/baldio/patch/20040414.html)

Add your own things that aren't classic that could use nuked! Moving items in Banked Bags? Scroll Wheel to 3rd Person? What else is not classic???

[Cecily]

Shut up shut up shut up shut up shut up.

[Sirken]

Really we should think about the opposite of this thread.

What quality of life and gameplay changes does this server have that it shouldn't at this point in time? Then let's remove those.

I've got a great list here (http://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=157229):



Add your own things that aren't classic that could use nuked! Moving items in Banked Bags? Scroll Wheel to 3rd Person? What else is not classic???

this belongs in the Bugs forum ;)

[Ele]

Only thing I got from this is we should remove rewind and enforce ui.

Bonus: remove duck instant interrupt from blue.

[Laugher]

I think at least 36% of the issues regarding non classicness at this point would be solved with the Trilogy client

With that said though I know it wont be happening and I like the non classic elements we have been allotted as a result

[khanable]

Key rings
Maps
Charater flags instead of keys
compass
bazaar/way of selling items
Instanced/spawnable high end/hard to get mobs (btw to stay more 'classic like' even when velious hits faydedar/trakanon/VS/etc shouldn't be spawnable for epics *1)
A reason to kill trash at max level (AAs/etc)
Raid UI
Inviteing others to group/raid with a command
Crafting UI
Non player teleports (even though people will still use dial a port instead of the hour long luclin teleports lol. We need to make it so you ahve to sacrifice a level 60 to be able to make a druid/wiz to keep the classic feel)
Shared banks
Mass group buffs
Zone where buffs don't decay/safe afk zones even from trainers


In order:

no
no
no
no
no
no
no
no
no
no
no
no
no

[Daldaen]

this belongs in the Bugs forum ;)

It already is! But I felt it was worth discussion here also, because classic :).

Only thing I got from this is we should remove rewind and enforce ui.

Bonus: remove duck instant interrupt from blue.

You like this post.

[korzek]

In order:

no
no
no
no
no
no
no
no
no
no
no
no
no

Ok, khanable, you answered the quality of life changes that the old/current devs did with EQ. However, what quality of life changes do you think that can happen to this server if it decides to keep going after velious's last patch?

[Droog007]

Maybe when the recycle/progression server is a perfect museum of classic EQ - THEN, if these guys have anything left, they could start unraveling the things they've done to wind back the clock on the Titanium Client for the dumpster/beta server*

*I mean this server

[blondeattk]

only thing from OP list that seems viable to me is:

Key rings

They would be sensible addition, and hardly game breaking. The rest seems kinda pointless.

luv how nuubs cant real loc numbers. just hotkey /loc to work out where you.....if you dont know the zones well enough to run about by just reading loc numbers then you are a ****in nuub! go back to school!

[PDX0621]

Really we should think about the opposite of this thread.

What quality of life and gameplay changes does this server have that it shouldn't at this point in time? Then let's remove those.

I've got a great list here (http://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=157229):



Add your own things that aren't classic that could use nuked! Moving items in Banked Bags? Scroll Wheel to 3rd Person? What else is not classic???

This is the guy who sits in the front of the classroom and raises his hand to remind the teacher they forgot to assign homework for the weekend on Friday afternoon.

[Duncon]

My top quality of play improvement would be a consistently working /who all lfg.

I think it’s even classic

[PDX0621]

I petitioned to make a guild called LFG to circumvent this issue a while back, was told by GM's it was a no go.

[curtischoy]

Only things on Daldaen's list I do not want to see implemented are a single chat window and cycle npc. Ench is a pain enough with ppl breakin mez for what seems like fun only to have to run to the mob and F8 or god forbid mouse click.

One chat window? I think I might die!

yeah yeah, shit's classic.

[curtischoy]

This is the guy who sits in the front of the classroom and raises his hand to remind the teacher they forgot to assign homework for the weekend on Friday afternoon.

Also this.

[Portasaurus]

If they force a single chat window on us I swear I will burn down the goddamn EC tunnel

MiltonWaddams.jpg

[Caridry]

This is the guy who sits in the front of the classroom and raises his hand to remind the teacher they forgot to assign homework for the weekend on Friday afternoon.

[Seltius]

If they force a single chat window on us I swear I will burn down the goddamn EC tunnel

MiltonWaddams.jpg

I asked for a maitai, and they brought me a pina colada, and I said no salt, NO SALT for the margarita, but it had salt on it, big grains of salt, floating in the glass.

[Daldaen]

This is the guy who sits in the front of the classroom and raises his hand to remind the teacher they forgot to assign homework for the weekend on Friday afternoon.

I'm sensing some animosity...

However will be learn to immerse ourselves into classic EQ without classic UI features :(?

[khanable]

Ok, khanable, you answered the quality of life changes that the old/current devs did with EQ. However, what quality of life changes do you think that can happen to this server if it decides to keep going after velious's last patch?

I don't want to see any quality of life changes. I'd like to see dald's list get implemented, though.

[golten]

No, no there wont be... or so i pray.... i dont want to play wow.... dont turn this into wow... dear lord

[golten]

My top quality of play improvement would be a consistently working /who all lfg.

I think it’s even classic

HERETIC!!!

[RevengeofGio]

If it was true you had to have a dildo up your ass while you played; you'd still have people arguing it was classic.

[Seltius]

I don't want to see any quality of life changes. I'd like to see dald's list get implemented, though.

A cucumber only has one life anyway! Though it does have multiple applications.

[waffel]

The interesting thing is, if during live the devs implemented some quality of life things the player base, as a whole, would be excited. 15 years later the purist don't even like stuff like multiple hotbars because it's 'not classic' it's funny/sad.

[Ele]

The interesting thing is, if during live the devs implemented some quality of life things the player base, as a whole, would be excited. 15 years later the purist don't even like stuff like multiple hotbars because it's 'not classic' it's funny/sad.

The struggle is real and classic.

[rollin5k]

You're the man daldaen

[Clark]

There will be Luclin. Just you wait and see Mr. Troll.

[Rararboker]

there's shitloads of servers at login that have all of this stuff you want

yet instead of just playing on one of those you come to the only one that doesn't and demand these features?

[Dacien]

Really we should think about the opposite of this thread.

What quality of life and gameplay changes does this server have that it shouldn't at this point in time? Then let's remove those.

I've got a great list here (http://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=157229):



Add your own things that aren't classic that could use nuked! Moving items in Banked Bags? Scroll Wheel to 3rd Person? What else is not classic???

No no, we'll keep a cherry-picked list of non-classic features while simultaneously refusing others because they're not classic. Oh, and some of us will get salty if you even offer non-classic suggestions, in spite of the cherry-picked list of them that currently exist.