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iruinedyourday
05-23-2015, 11:07 PM
Or was I getting trolled...

Eunomia
05-23-2015, 11:33 PM
You didn't understand?

Global chat is not a personal chat channel.

Global chat is used to communicate with the community for NEEDS such as LFG, Auction, Guild Recruitment, ports

Fulfill your personal chat needs in guild, group, or tells.

krazyGlue
05-23-2015, 11:36 PM
PRAS EUNOMIA

Dillian
05-23-2015, 11:37 PM
wow thats kinda dumb. watch out chat police. first you cant rant and flame people in global ooc, understandable..... now you cant hold a conversation........ dumb .........are you sure your not based in russia or china?

iruinedyourday
05-23-2015, 11:41 PM
how many times do i have to ask questions for you to believe me that i literetly do not understand.

If global OOC isnt for Out Of Context chat, then that is news to me. I am sorry you are so upset but you said you were going to just start handing out suspensions and stop giving warnings, and it just seems a little hostel and out of nowhere.

I saw no such post that we were changing the rules and am asking for some real clarifications.

Omnifiend
05-23-2015, 11:45 PM
6234

Per this, forum questing and petition questing shall reach new heights. Despite not being written down anywhere, anybody breaking this should be petitioned. Help clean up OOC and keep out banter and pras and any other crap that isn't needed. LFG, auction, port, and recruitment spam only.

Should help a lot with new players. OOC has been kind of toxic lately with the Good Guys, Empire rivalry.

Eunomia
05-23-2015, 11:45 PM
Well here is the post! You should be all set now.

iruinedyourday
05-23-2015, 11:47 PM
Well here is the post! You should be all set now.

you are welcome

Humerox
05-23-2015, 11:48 PM
not classic, and not kidding.

global ooc is extremely important for the community as a whole. clean it up? fine. the population is not at the point where this is a smart thing to do.

Rekrul
05-23-2015, 11:50 PM
reporting every pras i see

iruinedyourday
05-23-2015, 11:52 PM
Its a full blown chat channel now 30 seconds after eunomia leaves.

Just turn off global ooc, dont threaten to ban people if they say the wrong thing, like pras, in global out of context chat channel, designed because of the low population.

Rekrul
05-23-2015, 11:55 PM
I agree the global channel is good for the small community. This is how the gms/guides do business on red tho. They show up and enforce shit that they have ignored for months and then they'll disappear again.

Tradesonred
05-23-2015, 11:56 PM
Out Of Character chat

I would be first to say that all the garbage in OOC is detrimental to gaining normal and cool people and retaining them on the server, but it seems very much to be the wrong way to go about it

I also agree from experience here, instead of trying to have a discussion with the community so that the best solutions came come out from community feedback, it seems sometimes like Sirken, Nildog and Roge getting together, smoking a blunt and pulling ideas out of a hat, like hey, why dont we try this one? is more along the lines of what happens before a change like this is implemented.

Omnifiend
05-23-2015, 11:57 PM
Just take screenshots of people violating the completely new rules that aren't posted on server rule posts and get them banned. Especially if they are new people, it will be a great introduction to red.

nilzark
05-23-2015, 11:58 PM
First they came for the tranny porn, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not into tranny porn.
Then they came for the Gamer Gate threads, and I did not speak out—
Because I do not have Asperger's.
Then they came for the cats, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a cat.
Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.

Widan
05-23-2015, 11:59 PM
OOC stands for out of character. So actually it should be used for chat, but not used for any of the things Eunomia listed if we are going to be pedantic here.

Aside from that, creating a rule on a whim that will create more stupid petitions as well as suspend people from a low population server for no reason is a terribly ill conceived idea. Not to mention this flies in the face of four years of red server precedence, so no one is going to follow it anyways.

Humerox
05-24-2015, 12:02 AM
for example...a person new to red logs in and asks questions about pvp...guilds to join...rules, w/e. he's told that he can't communicate on the server in ooc.

nice welcome.

also..."pras" and other forms of pvp reinforcement are not necessarily a bad thing. the rest of the garbage is. rules like this will not increase population. you can take that to the bank.

personally it doesn't affect me. i have a big guild and plenty of people to talk to. new people don't have that advantage.

Tradesonred
05-24-2015, 12:05 AM
I find pras super stale but thats not what i would qualify as garbage, more wtf stuff like harassing Samwise over his kid, telling Chewie's girlfriend to kill herself or some braindead stupid shit like that.

Barkingturtle
05-24-2015, 12:08 AM
for example...a person new to red logs in and asks questions about pvp...guilds to join...rules, w/e. he's told that he can't communicate on the server in ooc.


Huh? That seems like the kind of stuff Eunomia says is okay.

But really, should just turn it off.

Pop on Blue was about what it is now on Red when global ooc went away, iirc. Blue players were fine; still made groups, still got ports, still sold their wares -- and they're all a bunch of anti-social, effeminate weirdos -- not like the charismatic, out-going, big-dicked pals on Red. It'd be alright.

Plus, everyone on Red is in one of two guilds now. The channel is pretty redundant when your guild channels are basically global ooc for half the server.

Nirgon
05-24-2015, 12:09 AM
No more Bergerklown ooc spam pras

fiegi 8.0
05-24-2015, 12:11 AM
this reminds me of that forum moderator back in the day who would give warnings for litearlly anything, anyone remember him?? Name is drawing a blank atm

iruinedyourday
05-24-2015, 12:12 AM
I literately only said Pras and was told it was 'inapropriate'.

DeathWalking
05-24-2015, 12:14 AM
wow thats kinda dumb. watch out chat police. first you cant rant and flame people in global ooc, understandable..... now you cant hold a conversation........ dumb .........are you sure your not based in russia or china?

blatant GM criticism


pls ban

Colgate
05-24-2015, 12:23 AM
this reminds me of that forum moderator back in the day who would give warnings for litearlly anything, anyone remember him?? Name is drawing a blank atm

GUINEAPIG

Doors
05-24-2015, 12:24 AM
Good luck enforcing this one. Do you guys even think before you come up with these rules? This is going to generate countless new petitions for you guys to answer.

iruinedyourday
05-24-2015, 12:26 AM
Good luck enforcing this one. Do you guys even think before you come up with these rules? This is going to generate countless new petitions for you guys to answer.

considering our now only official written announcement is my thread asking if I was getting trolled, makes me think there wasn't much thought put into this.

Widan
05-24-2015, 12:31 AM
It's the same cycle that always happens on red. GM's come here and try to implement and enforce rules that are actively harmful to the server and no one wants for a few days, then they leave us to our own devices for a few months. Rinse and repeat.

Doors
05-24-2015, 12:32 AM
I'm not even trying to be a dick, gms need to take red99s balls out of the vice grip already.

People that play here are cut throat competitors. This isn't blue. Have strict rules for training abolish the PNP and enforce the standard boxing/RMT rule set that's always existed. It will make everyone happier and free up the congestion in the petitions forum.

Corpse camping happens. If you can't survive harassment at the most insignificant level range the fuck are you going to do at 60 when it's far worse?

Tomm Selleck
05-24-2015, 12:35 AM
I'm not even trying to be a dick, gms need to take red99s balls out of the vice grip already.

People that play here are cut throat competitors. This isn't blue. Have strict rules for training abolish the PNP and enforce the standard boxing/RMT rule set that's always existed. It will make everyone happier and free up the congestion in the petitions forum.

Corpse camping happens. If you can't survive harassment at the most insignificant level range the fuck are you going to do at 60 when it's far worse?

this

iruinedyourday
05-24-2015, 12:43 AM
I'm not even trying to be a dick, gms need to take red99s balls out of the vice grip already.

People that play here are cut throat competitors. This isn't blue. Have strict rules for training abolish the PNP and enforce the standard boxing/RMT rule set that's always existed. It will make everyone happier and free up the congestion in the petitions forum.

Corpse camping happens. If you can't survive harassment at the most insignificant level range the fuck are you going to do at 60 when it's far worse?

Yep Im tryign really hard not to be a dick too.

I dono, eunomia if you are having a bad day I'm sorry about that but please don't take it out on us. Not everyone on red is a huge jerk ya know?

Rednaros
05-24-2015, 12:46 AM
I got threatened with a suspension for saying Hectorchrist PST

Pokesan
05-24-2015, 12:51 AM
where's ezalor when you need him?

Uuruk
05-24-2015, 12:53 AM
I got threatened with a suspension for saying Hectorchrist PST

KEK

pras lady eunomia

fiegi 8.0
05-24-2015, 12:58 AM
I got threatened with a suspension for saying Hectorchrist PST

lol

daasgoot
05-24-2015, 01:05 AM
I am Groot -- LVL 54wiz LFG

Lev_Mer
05-24-2015, 01:09 AM
^ son of a!!!

iiNGloriouS
05-24-2015, 01:10 AM
First tamtam and I's ass thread and now this. Red getting real blue

derpcake
05-24-2015, 01:36 AM
reporting every pras i see

pras

derpcake
05-24-2015, 01:37 AM
I am Groot -- LVL 54wiz LFG

u tried to set me on fire :(

pink grapefruit
05-24-2015, 01:39 AM
As someone who gets a little annoyed at the nonsense that happens in ooc, I'd rather the GMs make and enforce a "Dont be a dipshit" rule. Some quality community-building discussion happens in ooc and it'd be a shame to lose that just because certain players can't help themselves from spouting off every inane thought that pops into their heads.

Not everyone has a guild.

iruinedyourday
05-24-2015, 01:48 AM
Basically EQ is not a game a bout community so we shouldn't talk to each other at all.

I think what Eunomia is looking for is a global /auc channel..

you cant just make up rules that were established in the game, /ooc is out of character conversation, its made specifically for 'chatting'...

either shut down global ooc or make a global /auc channel, but to threaten suspensions over using the channel for what its been used for since its inception, and directly using it for what sony said it was to be used for.. is just wrong and crazy. sorry.

MEGANS LAW
05-24-2015, 01:52 AM
i like eunomia but this shit is retarded.

once again, another staff member comes in making huge rules and changes, wants it their way, and will be driven off in short order.

anybody remember derubael?

Tradesonred
05-24-2015, 01:52 AM
As someone who gets a little annoyed at the nonsense that happens in ooc, I'd rather the GMs make and enforce a "Dont be a dipshit" rule. Some quality community-building discussion happens in ooc and it'd be a shame to lose that just because certain players can't help themselves from spouting off every inane thought that pops into their heads.

Not everyone has a guild.

Why couldnt they draw that idea out of a hat :(

MEGANS LAW
05-24-2015, 02:00 AM
/ooc is called out of character eunomia. it's not /auc or /shout. either change the rules or disable global ooc.

this ridiculous making shit up on the fly is retarded (retarded isn't hate speech btw it's ableist).

pink grapefruit
05-24-2015, 02:07 AM
It is super cool of the GMs to spend their time working to solve the stupid problems we create for ourselves, but I hope they're mindful enough to know it's possible to take things too far.

Rekrul
05-24-2015, 02:08 AM
It's bc eunomia clearly doesn't know shit about red just like every other guide/gm. Just like when everyone is begging for rule clarification from sirken and he just replies ambiguously then ignores the thread after everyone asks him to explain wtf he said.

Remember when they decided to nerf names for awhile after years of not caring?

As far as red is concerned the gms/guides are terrible and incompetent. I'd like to see anyone argue against that. Yes they are volunteers and owe no-one anything, but that doesn't make the point any less true.

Yes I am bashing, suck my ultra red cock.

MEGANS LAW
05-24-2015, 02:10 AM
It's bc eunomia clearly doesn't know shit about red just like every other guide/gm. Just like when everyone is begging for rule clarification from sirken and he just replies ambiguously then ignores the thread after everyone asks him to explain wtf he said.

Remember when they decided to nerf names for awhile after years of not caring?

As far as red is concerned the gms/guides are terrible and incompetent. I'd like to see anyone argue against that. Yes they are volunteers and owe no-one anything, but that doesn't make the point any less true.

Yes I am bashing, suck my ultra red cock.

give it a 3 days and it will be back 2 normal.

iruinedyourday
05-24-2015, 02:16 AM
give it a 3 days and it will be back 2 normal.

its already back to normal, and it always will be back to normal as long as Eunomia isnt sending individual tells to people that say, 'hey guys!' when they log on, unless they shut it down entierly.. which would be wierd.

Who knew global ooc was a problem? I literally dont even see it, its basically invisible to me unless i Opt into it.

Keep in mind, this is the same GM that when I used to petition people for posting racist shit in RnF would tell me over and over again, 'just dont look at those posts'.

Yes, sorry guys i petitioned people for posting racist shit in rnf. All petitions were always was immediately deleted by staff though, so dont worry.

pink grapefruit
05-24-2015, 02:24 AM
Remember when they decided to nerf names for awhile after years of not caring?

They need to get back on this. You guys are awful at coming up with names :P

fishingme
05-24-2015, 02:37 AM
this reminds me of that forum moderator back in the day who would give warnings for litearlly anything, anyone remember him?? Name is drawing a blank atm

guinea pig, or some dumb name like that

jeffd
05-24-2015, 02:48 AM
o thank goodness

with this very serious prob solved, r99 is finally a pvp utopia

Rekrul
05-24-2015, 03:42 AM
also make auction global

Voland
05-24-2015, 04:09 AM
also make auction global

I second that, I don't want to see auction posts when I'm just trying to enjoy some ooc.

pgerman
05-24-2015, 04:20 AM
The appeal of everquest is the possibility of driving your enemies to suicide IRL. These new ooc rules are making that difficult.

OfftuneRZ
05-24-2015, 08:04 AM
o thank goodness

with this very serious prob solved, r99 is finally a pvp utopia

lol soo true.

Saludeen
05-24-2015, 08:11 AM
Everyone should break this rule because its petty and ridiculous.

Omnifiend
05-24-2015, 08:17 AM
Everybody is breaking this rule. Perhaps the first thing I've seen pretty much everyone agree on in this server. Won't prevent petition questers making a ton of new petitions when they die and shit is said in ooc about it though.

Widan
05-24-2015, 08:38 AM
It's fucking stupid. Can we get an admin in here to put a stop to this? She's been patrolling ooc off and on for the better part of 10 hours now.

Widan
05-24-2015, 08:46 AM
Contrary to what she may think, harassing and taking her anger out on an entire servers population is not appropriate GM'ing.

Swish
05-24-2015, 09:02 AM
reporting every pras i see

Red should be back to ~70 before we know it.

Tiggles
05-24-2015, 11:45 AM
Personally I think this new change is just Eunomia taking her frustrations out on the red server.

Eunomia has admitted multiple times that she does not like the red server and does not want to provide CSR services for it. Take a look at her on Sirkens stream, I have a feeling that she is being FORCED to GM on both servers and is unhappy about this fact.

Eunomia I implore you to either resign from your position as GM on this server because all you are doing right now is kicking a beehive of mentally unbalanced players.

Amelinda tried the same thing and it got her stalked and threatened IRL and while we may of had our differences I do not want to see the same happen to you.


You may think it's unfair for you to be forced to babysit red but it's also unfair for the red community to be subjected to your angst. Please do the right thing and revoke this rule.

Syft-X
05-24-2015, 11:48 AM
No more Bergerklown ooc spam pras

Rules change on the server and the first thing you think of is me, jesus dude do you check under your bed for me before you go to sleep.

syzygyst
05-24-2015, 11:55 AM
Rules change on the server and the first thing you think of is me, jesus dude do you check under your bed for me before you go to sleep.

adderall/meth can cause methamphetamine psychosis. He going through the hallucinations. We'll hear about him on the news soon.

Recycled Children
05-24-2015, 12:06 PM
Is this a reaction to the possible influx of new players from EQ Live progression server? Clean up the community in order not to offend a possible new batch of players?

jeffd
05-24-2015, 01:25 PM
if u can't play with mean words in ooc, how will u play when i slay ur elf wizard and sit on ur corpse for 400 years

Swish
05-24-2015, 01:28 PM
http://i.imgur.com/myxzcD4.png

Tradesonred
05-24-2015, 01:28 PM
Cant think of a better welcome mat for ragefire exiles than getting a tell from eunomia warning them not to use OOC for OOC. So classic.

Tradesonred
05-24-2015, 01:30 PM
Much intuitive, A+ would laugh again

Rekrul
05-24-2015, 01:46 PM
I've been on since 2am yesterday screenshotting every ooc offense, when my harddrive is full i'll submit my petition manifesto

Tradesonred
05-24-2015, 01:48 PM
lawl just got a 24h ooc ban

http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mcvl2ykd9Z1qevo2jo1_500.gif

Tradesonred
05-24-2015, 01:49 PM
http://covers.feedbooks.net/book/219.jpg?size=large&t=1425660138

Guttzs
05-24-2015, 01:55 PM
http://i.imgur.com/myxzcD4.png

Very very well said and her only replies consisted of you triggering her with logic and signing off lol

pink grapefruit
05-24-2015, 01:56 PM
http://i.imgur.com/myxzcD4.png

Hmm. Really not liking this. We shouldn't be forced into a big guild just so we have people to chat with. Gotta wonder why this is happening. Future P99 plans with Daybreak, and forums and in-game chat need to be cleaned up as part of the agreement?

Tradesonred
05-24-2015, 01:57 PM
I've been on since 2am yesterday screenshotting every ooc offense, when my harddrive is full i'll submit my petition manifesto

Since i cant use OOC anymore i think ill just go ahead and get on that as well

Voland
05-24-2015, 01:58 PM
Hmm. Really not liking this. We shouldn't be forced into a big guild just so we have people to chat with. Gotta wonder why this is happening. Future P99 plans with Daybreak, and forums and in-game chat need to be cleaned up as part of the agreement?

Ha, now that you mention it, this could be Daybreak-related.

Tassador
05-24-2015, 02:04 PM
It's not our server we just play here follow the rules. If these are the new rules I will stand by them and if I don't like it I have the option of not playing here.

After all it's free Everquest.

Tradesonred
05-24-2015, 02:06 PM
Ok so now eunomia is telling me she doesnt need petitions about people talking in OOC

Im guessing the guy who just said "Let eunomia do her job, shes just cleaning OOC of trash talk" is not going to get his OOC chat privileges revoked.

Tassador
05-24-2015, 02:07 PM
Ok so now eunomia is telling me she doesnt need petitions about people talking in OOC

Im guessing the guy who just said "Let eunomia do her job, shes just cleaning OOC of trash talk" is not going to get his OOC chat privileges revoked.

#just play

Tradesonred
05-24-2015, 02:14 PM
I think ill just not play for another 8 months seeing yet more stupid shit like this, how about that.

Glad youre getting rid of all the toxic elements

Uuruk
05-24-2015, 02:15 PM
Ok so now eunomia is telling me she doesnt need petitions about people talking in OOC

Im guessing the guy who just said "Let eunomia do her job, shes just cleaning OOC of trash talk" is not going to get his OOC chat privileges revoked.

I got my ooc revoked for saying that.

Tassador
05-24-2015, 02:19 PM
Cause ecoli so non-toxic he is a champion of toxicity like Captain Planet.

Fawqueue
05-24-2015, 02:43 PM
P99 not wanting to be outdone by the amateur hour shenanigans over on ragefire, cause silly chat-based drama for no reason. An arms race of incompetence, live versus emu...can't wait to see what happens next!

Tradesonred
05-24-2015, 02:58 PM
P99 not wanting to be outdone by the amateur hour shenanigans over on ragefire, cause silly chat-based drama for no reason. An arms race of incompetence, live versus emu...can't wait to see what happens next!

Arms race of incompetence hahahhahahhahaha

http://www.sublimesc.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/thats-gold-jerry.png

El Camacho
05-24-2015, 04:14 PM
Just a guess, but if every other yellow text didn't result in 45 minute petitonquests over LNS or the same people nerd raging about a guild, I think the staff would not be getting involved.

It's just a thought.

Tradesonred
05-24-2015, 04:51 PM
The whole point of YT was giving something for people to brag and laugh about

iruinedyourday
05-24-2015, 05:19 PM
Yea no point in YT if we're not supposed to talk to each other.

It's a social game. It's the whole point.

The channel is called out of character... It's specifically for what this gm is working against.

Grimjaw
05-24-2015, 05:30 PM
They show up and enforce shit that they have ignored for months and then they'll disappear again.

this. also some noob was asking if 10 slot bags were available? is that bannable? is answering noob questions like that bannable?

Neno
05-24-2015, 05:32 PM
Haven't logged in for months. Saw this thread and couldn't believe it so I logged into red. A discussion started about the power differences of soloing between Necros and Ench. I decided to be cheeky and /ooc'd that OOC was only for Auctions and LFG. Immediately got a message from Eunomia that said "I'll do the monitoring, last warning". The conversation also seemed to stop immediately.

After almost 6 years of playing/reading the forums I thought I had seen it all here.

Tradesonred
05-24-2015, 05:34 PM
this. also some noob was asking if 10 slot bags were available? is that bannable? is answering noob questions like that bannable?

I petitioned that just to be on the safe side, you never know, people might get cheeky and GMs losing control of the situation

Qtip
05-24-2015, 05:51 PM
Haven't logged in for months. Saw this thread and couldn't believe it so I logged into red. A discussion started about the power differences of soloing between Necros and Ench. I decided to be cheeky and /ooc'd that OOC was only for Auctions and LFG. Immediately got a message from Eunomia that said "I'll do the monitoring, last warning". The conversation also seemed to stop immediately.

After almost 6 years of playing/reading the forums I thought I had seen it all here.

Wow

Tradesonred
05-24-2015, 06:10 PM
Spotted:

"WTS Yesterday i ate some sweet potatoes"

Lev_Mer
05-24-2015, 06:20 PM
http://i.imgur.com/6pnikiP.png

Tradesonred
05-24-2015, 06:22 PM
At least its got loads of lulz potential

Got a chuckle out of seeing people spam WTS WTB when YT happened

Swish
05-24-2015, 07:42 PM
lol hurb, thanks for the laugh

Saludeen
05-24-2015, 09:29 PM
Just use OOC like normal and there are only two possible outcomes.

1. There will be so many people using OOC like it should be used and the GM will get overwhelmed or tired of sending tells.

2. Enough people will get suspended or banned that the server will die or have sub 50 population.

Glugg
05-24-2015, 09:37 PM
i have noticed a LOT of people lfging whenever a YT goes down...

seems kinda odd... ??

Swish
05-24-2015, 09:41 PM
i have noticed a LOT of people lfging whenever a YT goes down...

seems kinda odd... ??

People lfg all the time, plug your ipod back in and carry on.

arctex
05-24-2015, 09:42 PM
Population's almost at the point if you cut global ooc it wouldn't be a big deal.

SHOWITME
05-24-2015, 09:45 PM
No more Bergerklown ooc spam pras

so now your guild spams LFG on a yellow text, that is basically you spitting in the face of the server staff and the rules of this server.

expected better of u nirgon

Syft-X
05-24-2015, 10:03 PM
so now your guild spams LFG on a yellow text, that is basically you spitting in the face of the server staff and the rules of this server.

expected better of u nirgon

Sorry Nirgon cannot reply right now, he's too busy looking for a way to spin what you just said.

He will reply when he figures out a way to publicly kiss the staff's ass, while breaking every server rule the minute their eyes aren't on him.

Widan
05-24-2015, 10:40 PM
http://i.imgur.com/N1IyKvR.png?1

Doesn't know anything about pvp rules, continues to harass people in ooc.

Saludeen
05-24-2015, 10:59 PM
http://i.imgur.com/N1IyKvR.png?1

Doesn't know anything about pvp rules, continues to harass people in ooc.

Daybreak employee?

iruinedyourday
05-24-2015, 11:01 PM
so now your guild spams LFG on a yellow text, that is basically you spitting in the face of the server staff and the rules of this server.

expected better of u nirgon

actually that was really funny and we should remember this is a VIDEO GAME not fucking some protestant church on Sunday.

Varren
05-24-2015, 11:45 PM
Longtime player and lurker. Makes me want to quit on principle. This is sad.

Humerox
05-24-2015, 11:55 PM
It makes no sense on a PvP server to severely limit OOC. Eunomia doesn't know anything about red and obviously doesn't really want to.

We NEED RED guides for red.

Eunomia just doesn't understand the dynamics. The garbage and clutter need to be gotten rid of. But not at the cost of hindering growth and community. Red community doesn't operate in the same way as blue. That simple.

I accidentally ooc'd and spoke with Eunomia. Seems nice and wants to do the right thing. But wanting and doing are different animals.

Tradesonred
05-25-2015, 12:03 AM
Its so ill thought, i really hope its eunomia alone that initiated this

Not even a pinned post to try to frame what is allowed or not, people trying to talk LNS in ooc getting trolled, not applicable, etc, etc

TacoSmasher
05-25-2015, 12:18 AM
There is no doubt some people needed to take a OOC vacation but this is truly harming the community IMO. Even though there are a lot of trolls OOC is an important part of this server, discussion and some trash talk for pvp was fun. Current moderation of OOC is far too harsh

Thugnuts
05-25-2015, 12:24 AM
I'm a new player on Red, my main here is level 39 and unguilded. Been playing here in earnest for about five weeks.

Frankly, Red is the only reason why I'm still playing this emu.

And the only reason I'm playing still playing on Red is precisely because it's full of nutjobs, psychopaths, and various other malcontents and degenerates... who sometimes do say strange things out of character. But that's part of the charm. Logging into Red is like walking into a seedy dive bar on the bad side of town and wondering how many beers you can drink before someone stabs you.

As a new player on this server, /ooc is a nonstop tutorial and a window into the community. You don't have that shit on blue, you have thousands of nameless and faceless pixels running around chasing merbs all day saying "Sow plz, thx" and running away. That was half my interaction on blue, and the other half was nerdrage tells, from someone I'd never seen or heard of, about something being camped. Sorry broski, I'm not here to steal your fucking gnoll champion, I just logged out here last night. :confused:

When I'm running around on Red and I come across toons, there's a good chance I actually already know of them. I know if they're a douchebag or unstable. I know if they're kind to new players. I know who they hate, who their friends are, what guild they're in, and much of what they're doing.

It's a good thing to recognize the names and personas of characters I come across, and /ooc is what makes that possible. It's the hub of the community. It facilitates the transmission of actual human personality into a game world that is relatively stale at this point.

Without that human touch, you might as well play Minesweeper or go outside or some shit.

Tradesonred
05-25-2015, 12:29 AM
I'm a new player on Red, my main here is level 39 and unguilded. Been playing here in earnest for about five weeks.

Frankly, Red is the only reason why I'm still playing this emu.

And the only reason I'm playing still playing on Red is precisely because it's full of nutjobs, psychopaths, and various other malcontents and degenerates... who sometimes do say strange things out of character. But that's part of the charm. Logging into Red is like walking into a seedy dive bar on the bad side of town and wondering how many beers you can drink before someone stabs you.

As a new player on this server, /ooc is a nonstop tutorial and a window into the community. You don't have that shit on blue, you have thousands of nameless and faceless pixels running around chasing merbs all day saying "Sow plz, thx" and running away. That was half my interaction on blue, and the other half was nerdrage tells, from someone I'd never seen or heard of, about something being camped. Sorry broski, I'm not here to steal your fucking gnoll champion, I just logged out here last night. :confused:

When I'm running around on Red and I come across toons, there's a good chance I actually already know of them. I know if they're a douchebag or unstable. I know if they're kind to new players. I know who they hate, who their friends are, what guild they're in, and much of what they're doing.

It's a good thing to recognize the names and personas of characters I come across, and /ooc is what makes that possible. It's the hub of the community. It facilitates the transmission of actual human personality into a game world that is relatively stale at this point.

Without that human touch, you might as well play Minesweeper or go outside or some shit.

A+

Just deal with extremely dumb shit like people telling cutie to kill herself and leave OOC alone
http://nyulocal.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/chris_crocker_leave_britney_alone.jpg

beta
05-25-2015, 01:13 AM
I'm a new player on Red, my main here is level 39 and unguilded. Been playing here in earnest for about five weeks.

Frankly, Red is the only reason why I'm still playing this emu.

And the only reason I'm playing still playing on Red is precisely because it's full of nutjobs, psychopaths, and various other malcontents and degenerates... who sometimes do say strange things out of character. But that's part of the charm. Logging into Red is like walking into a seedy dive bar on the bad side of town and wondering how many beers you can drink before someone stabs you.

As a new player on this server, /ooc is a nonstop tutorial and a window into the community. You don't have that shit on blue, you have thousands of nameless and faceless pixels running around chasing merbs all day saying "Sow plz, thx" and running away. That was half my interaction on blue, and the other half was nerdrage tells, from someone I'd never seen or heard of, about something being camped. Sorry broski, I'm not here to steal your fucking gnoll champion, I just logged out here last night. :confused:

When I'm running around on Red and I come across toons, there's a good chance I actually already know of them. I know if they're a douchebag or unstable. I know if they're kind to new players. I know who they hate, who their friends are, what guild they're in, and much of what they're doing.

It's a good thing to recognize the names and personas of characters I come across, and /ooc is what makes that possible. It's the hub of the community. It facilitates the transmission of actual human personality into a game world that is relatively stale at this point.

Without that human touch, you might as well play Minesweeper or go outside or some shit.


Sticky that shit

Syft-X
05-25-2015, 01:14 AM
I'm a new player on Red, my main here is level 39 and unguilded. Been playing here in earnest for about five weeks.

Frankly, Red is the only reason why I'm still playing this emu.

And the only reason I'm playing still playing on Red is precisely because it's full of nutjobs, psychopaths, and various other malcontents and degenerates... who sometimes do say strange things out of character. But that's part of the charm. Logging into Red is like walking into a seedy dive bar on the bad side of town and wondering how many beers you can drink before someone stabs you.

As a new player on this server, /ooc is a nonstop tutorial and a window into the community. You don't have that shit on blue, you have thousands of nameless and faceless pixels running around chasing merbs all day saying "Sow plz, thx" and running away. That was half my interaction on blue, and the other half was nerdrage tells, from someone I'd never seen or heard of, about something being camped. Sorry broski, I'm not here to steal your fucking gnoll champion, I just logged out here last night. :confused:

When I'm running around on Red and I come across toons, there's a good chance I actually already know of them. I know if they're a douchebag or unstable. I know if they're kind to new players. I know who they hate, who their friends are, what guild they're in, and much of what they're doing.

It's a good thing to recognize the names and personas of characters I come across, and /ooc is what makes that possible. It's the hub of the community. It facilitates the transmission of actual human personality into a game world that is relatively stale at this point.

Without that human touch, you might as well play Minesweeper or go outside or some shit.

This is so good you should just copy and paste that shit as it's own thread.

iruinedyourday
05-25-2015, 01:19 AM
I'm a new player on Red, my main here is level 39 and unguilded. Been playing here in earnest for about five weeks.

Frankly, Red is the only reason why I'm still playing this emu.

And the only reason I'm playing still playing on Red is precisely because it's full of nutjobs, psychopaths, and various other malcontents and degenerates... who sometimes do say strange things out of character. But that's part of the charm. Logging into Red is like walking into a seedy dive bar on the bad side of town and wondering how many beers you can drink before someone stabs you.

As a new player on this server, /ooc is a nonstop tutorial and a window into the community. You don't have that shit on blue, you have thousands of nameless and faceless pixels running around chasing merbs all day saying "Sow plz, thx" and running away. That was half my interaction on blue, and the other half was nerdrage tells, from someone I'd never seen or heard of, about something being camped. Sorry broski, I'm not here to steal your fucking gnoll champion, I just logged out here last night. :confused:

When I'm running around on Red and I come across toons, there's a good chance I actually already know of them. I know if they're a douchebag or unstable. I know if they're kind to new players. I know who they hate, who their friends are, what guild they're in, and much of what they're doing.

It's a good thing to recognize the names and personas of characters I come across, and /ooc is what makes that possible. It's the hub of the community. It facilitates the transmission of actual human personality into a game world that is relatively stale at this point.

Without that human touch, you might as well play Minesweeper or go outside or some shit.

I am also quoting this, cus its insane to think otherwise.

pink grapefruit
05-25-2015, 01:25 AM
It makes no sense on a PvP server to severely limit OOC. Eunomia doesn't know anything about red and obviously doesn't really want to.

We NEED RED guides for red.

Eunomia just doesn't understand the dynamics. The garbage and clutter need to be gotten rid of. But not at the cost of hindering growth and community. Red community doesn't operate in the same way as blue. That simple.

I accidentally ooc'd and spoke with Eunomia. Seems nice and wants to do the right thing. But wanting and doing are different animals.

It seems doubtful that Eunomia had much to do with this decision. Most likely she volunteered or was told to be the bad guy and enforce the new policy. With the other staff members being silent about this all we can really do is speculate about all of this. To me it kinda seems like maybe this and the recent forum moderation people are complaining about may have something to do with the Daybreak agreements. How open were GMs and devs in the past, about policy changes?

If they stay tight-lipped, that might be significant.

I do not envy Eunomia.

iruinedyourday
05-25-2015, 01:30 AM
It seems doubtful that Eunomia had much to do with this decision. Most likely she volunteered or was told to be the bad guy and enforce the new policy. With the other staff members being silent about this all we can really do is speculate about all of this. To me it kinda seems like maybe this and the recent forum moderation people are complaining about may have something to do with the Daybreak agreements. How open were GMs and devs in the past, about policy changes?

If they stay tight-lipped, that might be significant.

I do not envy Eunomia.

The thing is ooc is tame compared to forum chat.. like REALLY tame..

also there is a /ignore command that eq put in by default... so its pretty ridiculous to have someone sit there manually telling people to not talk, so people can /ignore them without having to type /ignore someone.

and thirdly, make a fricken global /auc channel if you are gonna change the policy.. don't threaten suspensions for people using a channel thats being used as intended when it was created.

Whole thing is just totally nuts

Omnifiend
05-25-2015, 01:41 AM
It seems doubtful that Eunomia had much to do with this decision. Most likely she volunteered or was told to be the bad guy and enforce the new policy. With the other staff members being silent about this all we can really do is speculate about all of this. To me it kinda seems like maybe this and the recent forum moderation people are complaining about may have something to do with the Daybreak agreements. How open were GMs and devs in the past, about policy changes?

If they stay tight-lipped, that might be significant.

I do not envy Eunomia.

Occam's razor. I highly doubt Daybreak cares about a 300 person server, when there is a 1300 person server to care about. The more likely explanation is a sleep deprived person decided to take out their anger on a server they hate. In interest of solidarity other GM's are unlikely to comment or reverse spur of the moment decisions not in writing on any server rules posts on any part of these forums.

Battlelore
05-25-2015, 01:45 AM
Now I know why the server has been dead this weekend. Not fun for unguilded folks.

iruinedyourday
05-25-2015, 02:00 AM
the thing that sux on a community level, is if people were offended, like if they were petitioning, 'ow my fricken ears' about global OOC

why didnt the staff post and say, hey guys we are going to try to clean up global ooc - so try to tone it down a notch, if you cant, then well start issuing suspensions for X voliations.. then LIST the violations!

It would have been respectful of the comunity, it would have been easier on all the staff.. it would have been better for everyone...

but hey, on how to run CSR...

http://i1.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/783/443/d1b.gif

nonphixion
05-25-2015, 03:51 AM
as long as i can still blatantly 3 box in peace as usual im fine with the ooc rules and name rules

Clark
05-25-2015, 04:08 AM
A+

Just deal with extremely dumb shit like people telling cutie to kill herself and leave OOC alone
http://nyulocal.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/chris_crocker_leave_britney_alone.jpg

Leave Britney alone!

Symbioticforks
05-25-2015, 05:22 AM
I'm not clear on how things are supposed to be.

Is there even a way in which things are supposed to be?

You can't staff enough support to moderate and maintain a presence on RED99, so that's certainly not classic. Serverwide OOC / Yellow Text, that's not classic either. Those were added because of the small server population. (an exception to accommodate the player base)

Changing established modes of communication this late into the game, under penalty of suspension is poor management. (no matter how things were intended, this is the current meta)

Trying to control meta gaming on a pvp server is a fools errand.

UnfeteredOne
05-25-2015, 08:27 AM
I got banned from /ooc last night for telling a joke, and then explaining to EuMOANia that /ooc actually means OUT OF CHARCTER and not actually what she thinks its does.

Krule
05-25-2015, 09:03 AM
I'm a new player on Red, my main here is level 39 and unguilded. Been playing here in earnest for about five weeks.

Frankly, Red is the only reason why I'm still playing this emu.

And the only reason I'm playing still playing on Red is precisely because it's full of nutjobs, psychopaths, and various other malcontents and degenerates... who sometimes do say strange things out of character. But that's part of the charm. Logging into Red is like walking into a seedy dive bar on the bad side of town and wondering how many beers you can drink before someone stabs you.

As a new player on this server, /ooc is a nonstop tutorial and a window into the community. You don't have that shit on blue, you have thousands of nameless and faceless pixels running around chasing merbs all day saying "Sow plz, thx" and running away. That was half my interaction on blue, and the other half was nerdrage tells, from someone I'd never seen or heard of, about something being camped. Sorry broski, I'm not here to steal your fucking gnoll champion, I just logged out here last night. :confused:

When I'm running around on Red and I come across toons, there's a good chance I actually already know of them. I know if they're a douchebag or unstable. I know if they're kind to new players. I know who they hate, who their friends are, what guild they're in, and much of what they're doing.

It's a good thing to recognize the names and personas of characters I come across, and /ooc is what makes that possible. It's the hub of the community. It facilitates the transmission of actual human personality into a game world that is relatively stale at this point.

Without that human touch, you might as well play Minesweeper or go outside or some shit.

I had thought about making a post identical to this. So THANKS thug! Saved me alot of time.

I hope the people with the power to change this read this thread. This rule is fucking terrible. I have also recently joined in the last few weeks and see nothing positive from this.

I did get a kick out of the LFG when YT pops. We all chimed in even though we had a full CoM group. Luuuuuuulz can't hold us down Eunomia.

MEGANS LAW
05-25-2015, 09:23 AM
I'm a new player on Red, my main here is level 39 and unguilded. Been playing here in earnest for about five weeks.

Frankly, Red is the only reason why I'm still playing this emu.

And the only reason I'm playing still playing on Red is precisely because it's full of nutjobs, psychopaths, and various other malcontents and degenerates... who sometimes do say strange things out of character. But that's part of the charm. Logging into Red is like walking into a seedy dive bar on the bad side of town and wondering how many beers you can drink before someone stabs you.

As a new player on this server, /ooc is a nonstop tutorial and a window into the community. You don't have that shit on blue, you have thousands of nameless and faceless pixels running around chasing merbs all day saying "Sow plz, thx" and running away. That was half my interaction on blue, and the other half was nerdrage tells, from someone I'd never seen or heard of, about something being camped. Sorry broski, I'm not here to steal your fucking gnoll champion, I just logged out here last night. :confused:

When I'm running around on Red and I come across toons, there's a good chance I actually already know of them. I know if they're a douchebag or unstable. I know if they're kind to new players. I know who they hate, who their friends are, what guild they're in, and much of what they're doing.

It's a good thing to recognize the names and personas of characters I come across, and /ooc is what makes that possible. It's the hub of the community. It facilitates the transmission of actual human personality into a game world that is relatively stale at this point.

Without that human touch, you might as well play Minesweeper or go outside or some shit.

this guy gets it.

let me know if u need any items/plat on red pal. i like the cut of ur jib.

Vanquisher
05-25-2015, 10:33 AM
ooc is for really immersed nerds with drama like empire casual scum could care less

Tradesonred
05-25-2015, 10:53 AM
Its sad that once again, it seems history will repeat itself here. Pretty much everyone in the community understands its a bad move, except the staff. We will get ignored for months, people will stop logging in, pop will drop and then way too late someone is going to react and correct the obvious mistake, pop will take some time to climb again, and box will have lost some players that will never come back. Nerfing xp to "raise pop", xp loss in pvp, etc etc etc

lethdar
05-25-2015, 11:15 AM
global ooc only thing that keeps this server immersive, it sure isn't killing 16 year old frogloks for the millionth time.

Malevz
05-25-2015, 11:21 AM
You didn't understand?

Global chat is not a personal chat channel.

Global chat is used to communicate with the community for NEEDS such as LFG, Auction, Guild Recruitment, ports

Fulfill your personal chat needs in guild, group, or tells.

Had a few friends start here, left shortly after at seeing the shit show ooc was. It was basically just trolling, people looking for attention/approval, and people spouting worn out catch phrases.

Thanks Eunomia, I actually have ooc on in an open window now.

Neno
05-25-2015, 11:36 AM
Had a few friends start here, left shortly after at seeing the shit show ooc was. It was basically just trolling, people looking for attention/approval, and people spouting worn out catch phrases.

Thanks Eunomia, I actually have ooc on in an open window now.

You should be hazed off this site forever if you actually condone this shit. If your friends couldn't handle OOC they would never have lasted on RED let alone BLUE.

I'll be looking forward to you answering my petitions in the near future.

Uuruk
05-25-2015, 11:43 AM
Had a few friends start here, left shortly after at seeing the shit show ooc was. It was basically just trolling, people looking for attention/approval, and people spouting worn out catch phrases.

Thanks Eunomia, I actually have ooc on in an open window now.

PRAS PRINCESS EUNOMIA FOR 200 YEARS.

Malevz
05-25-2015, 11:43 AM
It's not about not handling it, it's about people not wanting to spend their time playing a 15+ year old game if they have to be immersed constantly in the bullshit of others.

Problem is if I have to explain to someone why, not seeing a wall of ooc garbage and whining and 30 year old children crying for attention is good for the server, then you probably wouldn't get it anyway.

EQ1 doesn't draw the multitudes of players you might think.

Guttzs
05-25-2015, 11:48 AM
It's not about not handling it, it's about people not wanting to spend their time playing a 15+ year old game if they have to be immersed constantly in the bullshit of others.

Problem is if I have to explain to someone why, not seeing a wall of ooc garbage and whining and 30 year old children crying for attention is good for the server, then you probably wouldn't get it anyway.

EQ1 doesn't draw the multitudes of players you might think.


it is literally only about handling it you are a pussy bitch and a stupid whore.

worch
05-25-2015, 11:49 AM
And the only reason I'm playing still playing on Red is precisely because it's full of nutjobs, psychopaths, and various other malcontents and degenerates... who sometimes do say strange things out of character. But that's part of the charm. Logging into Red is like walking into a seedy dive bar on the bad side of town and wondering how many beers you can drink before someone stabs you.

Come on.. That's not a positive characteristic to be encouraged! The psychopaths, sadists, and narcissists are the most off-putting part of this server. The horrible /ooc is one of the most common complaints I hear from people trying p99 for the first time. That and crushbone twinks.

EQ pvp can be fun and engaging and doesn't need the unfriendly insults, etc in the global chat channel. Those can go to /tells and RnF. I almost quit when I started on p99 because I really thought the /ooc psychopaths were the majority of the population. Intentially surrounding oneself with nutjobs is... let's just say unhealthly. :)

As a new player on this server, /ooc is a nonstop tutorial and a window into the community. [...]

It's a good thing to recognize the names and personas of characters I come across, and /ooc is what makes that possible. It's the hub of the community. It facilitates the transmission of actual human personality into a game world that is relatively stale at this point.

Without that human touch, you might as well play Minesweeper or go outside or some shit.

Global /ooc can definitely add a human touch to a low pop server. And, sure, it can help identify alts. However, more often than not, it's a glimpse into the minds of narcissists. You have to watch it for LnS, trades, etc, but it's also littered with crap. That's the problem. It's so bad that the staff is now actively moderating it! You mentioned you're unguilded. A guild will help out in this regard more than global /ooc since you'll be interacting with pals with similar goals. Finding one that fits your playstyle and preferences is difficult, but I'd recommend making that a priority.

The policy change came as a surprise to everyone, and it is ambiguous atm. They could of handled its introduction and implementation better, but I think the ooc policies and moderation are a step in the right direction, even if they are a bit harsh.

/ooc has been a cesspool giving narcissists a spotlight. If taking their spotlight away means they'll leave the server, "the community" you refer to will be better without them. I won't miss them.

Tradesonred
05-25-2015, 11:54 AM
It's not about not handling it, it's about people not wanting to spend their time playing a 15+ year old game if they have to be immersed constantly in the bullshit of others.

Problem is if I have to explain to someone why, not seeing a wall of ooc garbage and whining and 30 year old children crying for attention is good for the server, then you probably wouldn't get it anyway.

EQ1 doesn't draw the multitudes of players you might think.

Only a small percentage would condone extreme stuff like telling someone to kill himself. Im being generous here as maybe more than that think this creepy shit is funny. The point is that, thats the kind of thing thats problematic, not "pras" and people asking questions about classes and cracking jokes at 12am at night to alleviate the boredom of grinding a bit and to socialize.

Instead of wasting all these GM resources to go after anyone that intuitively tries to use OOC for what its meant for, they should go after specific people that are posting Jeffrey Dahmer shit, which would really focus on quality GMing vs quantity GMing. The solution thats been suggested a million times is to cut the times between which you can use ooc to like 5 mins if you really feel you want to regulate OOC, but i think its too much myself.

Humerox
05-25-2015, 11:56 AM
https://encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTwQQIcHgrdIzA62BG-lGlpSEc9MwQweiQGhQ4FhQoZb3VNSmX7

Malevz
05-25-2015, 11:59 AM
Only a small percentage would condone extreme stuff like telling someone to kill himself. Im being generous here as maybe more than that think this creepy shit is funny. The point is that, thats the kind of thing thats problematic, not "pras" and people asking questions about classes and cracking jokes at 12am at night to alleviate the boredom of grinding a bit and to socialize.

I totally don't disagree there, it's probably a bit over done at the moment. Bottom line is line more people on the server = more people to kill, more guilds, more competition.

Someone new logging onto a 15 year old game is going to be more attracted to a server where there's lfg in channel and active auctioning, than they will be listening to 10 people that don't know constantly spamming semi coherent rage and trolling because they didn't get enough attention as children.

Humerox
05-25-2015, 12:02 PM
I totally don't disagree there, it's probably a bit over done at the moment. Bottom line is line more people on the server = more people to kill, more guilds, more competition.

Someone new logging onto a 15 year old game is going to be more attracted to a server where there's lfg in channel and active auctioning, than they will be listening to 10 people that don't know constantly spamming semi coherent rage and trolling because they didn't get enough attention as children.

That's what they needed to get rid of. Always has been. But going over the deep-end and shutting down /ooc for everything but a few specific options isn't the best thing to do either if community and growth are important.

And I don't want to hear any crap about lack of guides. They have a ton of guide apps with qualified reds to do it.

Tradesonred
05-25-2015, 12:02 PM
I totally don't disagree there, it's probably a bit over done at the moment. Bottom line is line more people on the server = more people to kill, more guilds, more competition.

Someone new logging onto a 15 year old game is going to be more attracted to a server where there's lfg in channel and active auctioning, than they will be listening to 10 people that don't know constantly spamming semi coherent rage and trolling because they didn't get enough attention as children.

I dont think someone new, excited to play EQ again and greeting the server with "Hey guys, im playing EQ again!!!" will like the classic feel of getting sternly warned by Eunomia not to use OOC for what they remember using it for.

I was gonna add that its kinda weird from someone that was tagged holocaust to be having this stance, as they were home to some of the worst offenders in that anti-social department, personally making sure id never consider joining that crew as id never fit in, i have too much of a big mouth and friction would have ensued right away. But i decided against it because maybe you were the exception.

Then i find this post:

lol Malevz is far from cool and normal. http://i.imgur.com/VyYnx0n.jpg definitely suffers from brain damage.

So basically Malevz, they gotta go after people posting shit like you did instead of trying to kill a fly with a nuclear bomb

SamwiseRed
05-25-2015, 12:10 PM
Had a few friends start here, left shortly after at seeing the shit show ooc was. It was basically just trolling, people looking for attention/approval, and people spouting worn out catch phrases.

Thanks Eunomia, I actually have ooc on in an open window now.

http://i.imgur.com/VyYnx0n.jpg

stfu

Malevz
05-25-2015, 12:12 PM
http://i.imgur.com/VyYnx0n.jpg

stfu

Posts: 7,902 :rolleyes:

SamwiseRed
05-25-2015, 12:13 PM
not sure how that is relevant but then again I am not a psychopath.

yikes

Malevz
05-25-2015, 12:17 PM
So basically Malevz, they gotta go after people posting shit like you did instead of trying to kill a fly with a nuclear bomb

I said something out of line like 3 years ago, later apologized for it, and this is news?

I think it's cute you people keep screenshots for so long. It shows an obsession with the game far surpassing my own.

SamwiseRed
05-25-2015, 12:18 PM
I said something out of line like 3 years ago, later apologized for it, and this is news?

I think it's cute you people keep screenshots for so long. It shows an obsession with the game far surpassing my own.

Ya Imgur is a nerd for keeping screenshots I uploaded years ago.

http://imageupload.co.uk/images/2015/05/24/ezgif-1586678308.gif

Tradesonred
05-25-2015, 12:22 PM
I said something out of line like 3 years ago, later apologized for it, and this is news?

I think it's cute you people keep screenshots for so long. It shows an obsession with the game far surpassing my own.

I just pointed out that thats the kind of shit they should go after, dont be so defensive.

You could just be a man about it (TM), agree i have a point, and move on.

Malevz
05-25-2015, 12:28 PM
I already agreed you have a point about the over-policing, but you have to agree for server health it is a step in the right direction.

I ate a two week suspension for what I said, although it was cut short because:
http://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=96228

Taking ooc temporarily away from people isn't the huge kick to the crotch 2 weeks suspensions are.

Swish
05-25-2015, 12:35 PM
global ooc only thing that keeps this server immersive, it sure isn't killing 16 year old frogloks for the millionth time.

Tradesonred
05-25-2015, 12:36 PM
I already agreed you have a point about the over-policing, but you have to agree for server health it is a step in the right direction.

I ate a two week suspension for what I said, although it was cut short because:
http://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=96228

Taking ooc temporarily away from people isn't the huge kick to the crotch 2 weeks suspensions are.

I dont agree, i think 2 week suspensions to people who cross the line is the way to go and removing OOC access to people who did nothing to deserve that, isnt a step in the right direction.

pink grapefruit
05-25-2015, 12:40 PM
I already agreed you have a point about the over-policing, but you have to agree for server health it is a step in the right direction.

No, we don't. There were a few people that abused ooc privilege, but as a willfully unguilded player with a 30s main ooc was one of the best things about the server. Not meaning to sound dramatic or anything, but it's summertime and I may quit partly because of this.

Luniz
05-25-2015, 12:45 PM
Commie nazis

LoliPops
05-25-2015, 12:55 PM
http://cdn.wall-pix.net/albums/entertainment-humour/00005523.jpg

Glugg
05-25-2015, 01:03 PM
so try to tone it down a notch

lol

Glugg
05-25-2015, 01:11 PM
also lol, i ate a 90 day ooc suspension for saying the word "dick" once.

just hand out 90 day suspensions left and right to all these tards who can't shut up for 20 seconds and never have anything nice to say, which is a lot less "family friendly" than one lonely reference to male genitalia.

kingbuzzo
05-25-2015, 01:18 PM
i wish they'd just get rid of the sumbitch all together

Tradesonred
05-25-2015, 01:20 PM
also lol, i ate a 90 day ooc suspension for saying the word "dick" once.

just hand out 90 day suspensions left and right to all these tards who can't shut up for 20 seconds and never have anything nice to say, which is a lot less "family friendly" than one lonely reference to male genitalia.

lol 'merica

kill a hundred thousand living things to get to 60, but dick... thats a real shocker

iruinedyourday
05-25-2015, 03:17 PM
I dont think someone new, excited to play EQ again and greeting the server with "Hey guys, im playing EQ again!!!" will like the classic feel of getting sternly warned by Eunomia not to use OOC for what they remember using it for.

Truth. I was treated really poorly when asking for E to clarify why my single Pras was met with a tell from a gm, who seconds after said in ooc, 'i'm going to stop giving warnings and just hand out suspensions.'

I don't like to brakes are rules, I respect the staff, I just want to know what the rules actually are before you start treating me like I'm an a-hole.

There's just a difference between asking the community to be respectful, opposed to threatening the community with suspensions over rules that are never announced.

*edit* I also completely agree that attacking anybody that says anything opposed to attacking people that say stuff like your children are starving, is just as dangerous to server a growth. We all want to help the server we all want to talk to each other we all want to play this social game. This very social game. Rules are not going to break the social element of this game, suspending people for saying 'congratulations!' or 'hi first time back!', is though.

Respect each other, is all I'm asking. If the staff doesn't respect the community the community is not going to respect the staff.

Glugg
05-25-2015, 04:54 PM
Respect each other, is all I'm asking.

lol

Slathar
05-25-2015, 04:56 PM
Truth. I was treated really poorly when asking for E to clarify why my single Pras was met with a tell from a gm, who seconds after said in ooc, 'i'm going to stop giving warnings and just hand out suspensions.'

I don't like to brakes are rules, I respect the staff, I just want to know what the rules actually are before you start treating me like I'm an a-hole.

There's just a difference between asking the community to be respectful, opposed to threatening the community with suspensions over rules that are never announced.

*edit* I also completely agree that attacking anybody that says anything opposed to attacking people that say stuff like your children are starving, is just as dangerous to server a growth. We all want to help the server we all want to talk to each other we all want to play this social game. This very social game. Rules are not going to break the social element of this game, suspending people for saying 'congratulations!' or 'hi first time back!', is though.

Respect each other, is all I'm asking. If the staff doesn't respect the community the community is not going to respect the staff.


anyone read this? i didnt

iruinedyourday
05-25-2015, 05:02 PM
Last person I give a shot about on this box is slather

Doors
05-25-2015, 05:07 PM
AGATHA FOR GM 2016

Rekrul
05-25-2015, 06:11 PM
Last person I give a shot about on this box is slather

He's world famous and you care

Chanur
05-29-2015, 10:38 AM
You didn't understand?

Global chat is not a personal chat channel.

Global chat is used to communicate with the community for NEEDS such as LFG, Auction, Guild Recruitment, ports

Fulfill your personal chat needs in guild, group, or tells.

Out of character is no longer for out of character. Gotcha.

Fael
05-29-2015, 10:47 AM
When one is truly immersed within a pixelated game world, all the actions he takes while there are done in character.

Out of character channel was intended to discuss Non game related matters.

I need more rules to help clarify how in character matters are to be done in out of character chat channels.

Chanur
05-29-2015, 10:48 AM
Swish your avatar just makes me want to agree with anything you say.

Voland
05-29-2015, 03:32 PM
Was there any talk in the last Super Cast about new ooc rules?

Slathar
05-29-2015, 03:33 PM
Was there any talk in the last Super Cast about new ooc rules?

no and it isnt published anywhere but you will be banned for it regardless because GMs said so

Chronoburn
05-29-2015, 04:15 PM
As a super casual scum, global OOC is one of the main reasons I log in. Guess it's time to throw in the towel.

Tradesonred
06-03-2015, 02:24 PM
Yeah same here, i started playing a bit 2 weeks ago trying to enjoy the more populated server and then this.

Some other person parachuted in who doesnt have a clue about the server (Server pop is going to go down before its gonna go up! My telemetrics dont fail, ever!) wholl try to ram in some ill-conceived measures, not talked beforehand with the server that yet again makes me wanna say fuck this.

So, fuck this, its summer anyway. See ya in a couple of months ill check to see if theres a GM with a less out of touch approach. Ill probably just not play cuz i was preparing my alt for velious.

So another -1 i guess

MEGANS LAW
06-03-2015, 02:47 PM
Yeah same here, i started playing a bit 2 weeks ago trying to enjoy the more populated server and then this.

Some other person parachuted in who doesnt have a clue about the server (Server pop is going to go down before its gonna go up! My telemetrics dont fail, ever!) wholl try to ram in some ill-conceived measures, not talked beforehand with the server that yet again makes me wanna say fuck this.

So, fuck this, its summer anyway. See ya in a couple of months ill check to see if theres a GM with a less out of touch approach. Ill probably just not play cuz i was preparing my alt for velious.

So another -1 i guess

later dicksucker. go suck some erudite COCK

Tradesonred
06-03-2015, 02:52 PM
later dicksucker. go suck some erudite COCK

Fuckin nursery school, too

MEGANS LAW
06-03-2015, 03:00 PM
Fuckin nursery school, too

no1 cares about your analysis of the server anyways u dumb as fuck french cannuck erudite cocksucker.

ur a nobody and a never was dog.

piss off m8.

Boeing B-29 Superfortress
06-03-2015, 03:01 PM
no1 cares about your analysis of the server anyways u dumb as fuck french cannuck erudite cocksucker.

ur a nobody and a never was dog.

piss off m8.

gr8 be-r8 m8

8/8

Pikrib
06-03-2015, 03:12 PM
Erudites have higher starting intelligence than Gnomes.

MEGANS LAW
06-03-2015, 03:19 PM
Fuckin nursery school, too

Erudites have higher starting intelligence than Gnomes.

it's a joke. they have 1 "black" race and they're the smartest race in the game?

http://i397.photobucket.com/albums/pp60/d23623d/800px-IQ-4races-rotate-highres.png


eq dev's were horribly racist.

Pikrib
06-03-2015, 03:22 PM
Gnomes r stupid

Erudites r intelligent

deal w/it

Colgate
06-03-2015, 03:27 PM
feels good being part of the literal genius top percentile

Pikrib
06-03-2015, 03:35 PM
Erudites also have a higher base wisdom.

Tradesonred
06-03-2015, 05:19 PM
http://i.imgur.com/jMvNkys.gif

Lev_Mer
06-03-2015, 06:07 PM
what about those sand giants tho

Glenzig
06-03-2015, 09:38 PM
it's a joke. they have 1 "black" race and they're the smartest race in the game?

http://i397.photobucket.com/albums/pp60/d23623d/800px-IQ-4races-rotate-highres.png


eq dev's were horribly racist.

Why does this IQ chart only go up to 140?

r34m
06-03-2015, 10:18 PM
Personally, I'd rather read ooc chat from brobb or robertos fucked up brains' then listen to another newbie spam ooc with their third OOC message in 5 minutes about them trying to sell a polished bone bracer.

If anything just get rid of ooc. Take it to the forums, or join a guild if you want to remove OOC, but regulating it for anything less than RL slander makes no sense.

Pikrib
06-03-2015, 11:45 PM
Why does this IQ chart only go up to 140?

Because it was made by a dumb gnome.

Blux
06-04-2015, 09:13 AM
Global auction and global ooc. Problem solved

MEGANS LAW
06-04-2015, 09:16 AM
Because it was made by a dumb gnome.

first thing i got when i googled "iq chart by race"

pikrib ur really grinding my gears lately.

Handpartytowel
06-04-2015, 11:05 AM
gr8 idea. i was getting so sick of playing on a server with any indication of other human beings playing it.

Rastignac
06-04-2015, 11:11 AM
Unguilded here. Figuring out what "pras" meant when I first arrived last year was awesome. It felt like the server really had a culture. I know OOC can suck, but taking away pras and other things like it is an awful choice. It does serious damage to the unique server culture that Sirken himself cited as the chief virtue of EQ in his latest stream. Please don't enforce this just to maintain authority. We will still respect you if you walk it back a bit.

Yumyums Inmahtumtums
06-04-2015, 11:28 AM
Did new server policy get rolled back already? Saw lots of the old ooc when I logged on the other night.

Pumped
06-04-2015, 11:37 AM
every campaign they ever launched to "Clean Up" The server or forum lasted 1 week

so feel free to shit up ooc

Rastignac
06-04-2015, 11:55 AM
Why does this IQ chart only go up to 140?

because it was made in MS paint by an apprentice tadpole in the KKK.

Pikrib
06-04-2015, 02:17 PM
first thing i got when i googled "iq chart by race"

pikrib ur really grinding my gears lately.

Did you know that Erudites have higher starting Charisma than Gnomes also?

Gnomes are stupid, unwise, and ugly.

Samsung
06-04-2015, 02:21 PM
gr8 idea. i was getting so sick of playing on a server with any indication of other human beings playing it.

Make MQ3 yet?

Saludeen
06-04-2015, 02:23 PM
Did new server policy get rolled back already? Saw lots of the old ooc when I logged on the other night.

I don't think so. But its such a vague and irrational rule that it will inevitably be broken.

MEGANS LAW
06-04-2015, 02:23 PM
Make MQ3 yet?

mq3 wut a moran.

Pikrib
06-04-2015, 02:33 PM
U just called another gnome a moron, quite fitting.

MEGANS LAW
06-04-2015, 02:38 PM
U just called another gnome a moron, quite fitting.

moran. learn 2 read erudite.

Thulack
06-04-2015, 02:57 PM
I'm a new player on Red, my main here is level 39 and unguilded. Been playing here in earnest for about five weeks.

Frankly, Red is the only reason why I'm still playing this emu.

And the only reason I'm playing still playing on Red is precisely because it's full of nutjobs, psychopaths, and various other malcontents and degenerates... who sometimes do say strange things out of character. But that's part of the charm. Logging into Red is like walking into a seedy dive bar on the bad side of town and wondering how many beers you can drink before someone stabs you.

As a new player on this server, /ooc is a nonstop tutorial and a window into the community. You don't have that shit on blue, you have thousands of nameless and faceless pixels running around chasing merbs all day saying "Sow plz, thx" and running away. That was half my interaction on blue, and the other half was nerdrage tells, from someone I'd never seen or heard of, about something being camped. Sorry broski, I'm not here to steal your fucking gnoll champion, I just logged out here last night. :confused:

When I'm running around on Red and I come across toons, there's a good chance I actually already know of them. I know if they're a douchebag or unstable. I know if they're kind to new players. I know who they hate, who their friends are, what guild they're in, and much of what they're doing.

It's a good thing to recognize the names and personas of characters I come across, and /ooc is what makes that possible. It's the hub of the community. It facilitates the transmission of actual human personality into a game world that is relatively stale at this point.

Without that human touch, you might as well play Minesweeper or go outside or some shit.

And this is why 300 people choose to play on this server and everyone else chooses not to. It's like voluntarily living in a nuthouse. I prefer Order in my life not Chaos.

Yumyums Inmahtumtums
06-04-2015, 03:14 PM
Tomato/assberger retards

Really no difference really

Fame
06-04-2015, 03:20 PM
what a fucking joke lol

OOC police is what this server NEEDS

So out of touch with the player base

That daybreak fever

I forgive you

Barkingturtle
06-04-2015, 03:22 PM
I prefer Order in my life not Chaos.

Understandable, but then the question is simple: is EQ life?

Of course not. It's a game. Games are often chaotic. I mean, no one knows when the player designated as "it" will stop saying "duck" and start saying "goose".

Surely you wouldn't prefer a game of duck, duck, duck, duck, duck, duck......

Fame
06-04-2015, 03:39 PM
read whole thread, have not seen a good shit pushing like this in a while

pras


Keep red in the gutter where it belongs

Lev_Mer
06-04-2015, 03:43 PM
ordered systems trend to chaos its physics.. u dont get a choice.. NOW PLAY

Thulack
06-04-2015, 04:24 PM
Understandable, but then the question is simple: is EQ life?

Of course not. It's a game. Games are often chaotic. I mean, no one knows when the player designated as "it" will stop saying "duck" and start saying "goose".

Surely you wouldn't prefer a game of duck, duck, duck, duck, duck, duck......

Correct EQ is not life but in my "EQ life" i prefer nice camps, Rotations, other things that bring order and make my time worth it.

quido
06-04-2015, 04:27 PM
When injustice becomes law, resistance becomes duty.

Thulack
06-04-2015, 04:27 PM
ordered systems trend to chaos its physics.. u dont get a choice.. NOW PLAY

I tried it once. Got to level 5 and then proceeded to spend the next hour running away from a Nilly alt being followed by a level 50 nilly druid trying to kill me in Crushbone. Logged off and never bothered to go back. I find it rather funny that people on red say that raiding on Blue is a shitshow when the whole red server is a shitshow period. I have better things to do with my life then worry about if some retard with no life is going to sneak up on me while i'm trying to camp a mob or if i afk for 30 seconds to watch my son show me something.

Fame
06-04-2015, 04:39 PM
Cool story bro, maybe start up a livejournal

daasgoot
06-04-2015, 04:48 PM
gets to level 5 and quits, makes judgment on entire server

MEGANS LAW
06-04-2015, 04:53 PM
maybe thulack shud take a note from soxesie.

karekiz
06-04-2015, 07:36 PM
I tried it once. Got to level 5 and then proceeded to spend the next hour running away from a Nilly alt being followed by a level 50 nilly druid trying to kill me in Crushbone. Logged off and never bothered to go back. I find it rather funny that people on red say that raiding on Blue is a shitshow when the whole red server is a shitshow period. I have better things to do with my life then worry about if some retard with no life is going to sneak up on me while i'm trying to camp a mob or if i afk for 30 seconds to watch my son show me something.

Do you guys hear it? The siren its getting close!

WWHHHHHHAAAAAAAAAAmmmmbulance is here.

Tameth
06-05-2015, 02:53 AM
I tried it once. Got to level 5 and then proceeded to spend the next hour running away from a Nilly alt being followed by a level 50 nilly druid trying to kill me in Crushbone. Logged off and never bothered to go back. I find it rather funny that people on red say that raiding on Blue is a shitshow when the whole red server is a shitshow period. I have better things to do with my life then worry about if some retard with no life is going to sneak up on me while i'm trying to camp a mob or if i afk for 30 seconds to watch my son show me something.

oh thulack =)

you could always provide safe money and gear xfers on the red server... there's got to be a spot in the NFP bank with your name on it!

Layne
06-05-2015, 06:38 PM
Turn off global ooc. Create global channels for LFG and AUC. That way you can filter when you want to buy something or group, but dont want to sift through all the BS being thrown back and forth. Thought it was a cool addition when they added the ability for players to create their own channels personally.

iruinedyourday
06-05-2015, 06:59 PM
oh thulack =)

you could always provide safe money and gear xfers on the red server... there's got to be a spot in the NFP bank with your name on it!

truth! we need a boxing red/blue thulak plz

Tradesonred
06-07-2015, 06:21 PM
Cant chit chat and crack jokes in OOC, but tons of RL attack on forums that doesnt see much moderating

Working as intended

MEGANS LAW
06-07-2015, 06:23 PM
Cant chit chat and crack jokes in OOC, but tons of RL attack on forums that doesnt see much moderating

Working as intended

wha wha im an erudite wha wha.

shut up before i string u up in toxuila forest BOY

Humerox
06-07-2015, 06:45 PM
I tried it once. Got to level 5 and then proceeded to spend the next hour running away from a Nilly alt being followed by a level 50 nilly druid trying to kill me in Crushbone. Logged off and never bothered to go back. I find it rather funny that people on red say that raiding on Blue is a shitshow when the whole red server is a shitshow period. I have better things to do with my life then worry about if some retard with no life is going to sneak up on me while i'm trying to camp a mob or if i afk for 30 seconds to watch my son show me something.

some of us feel the same way about blue. each to their own. the culture on red demands a volatile /ooc, it's part of the game for us.

sorta like hippies vs. yippies