Red Awareness this double XP weekend...

[Swish]

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Attention friends, pals, chums of P99...

This weekend is going to be see a lot of salty tears on blue. Double XP in those already packed zones is going to bring out the worst in people. You'll get mad, you'll wish you could do something to stop people stealing mobs from your camp, you'll petition an already stressed Eunomia/Moregan/etc. Effectively tomorrow should be named "Black Friday", and rightly so as people log in for the weekend to grind those levels.

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"Swish, is there any alternative to this madness?" I hear you cry...

Well yes, yes there is.

Right now represents the perfect opportunity to enjoy the red server. Free yourself from the constraints of an overcrowded blue server and enter a new vibrant, thriving community where not everyone is twinked up to the eyeballs with the latest fashions at level 1.

If you think you'd enjoy a truly fresh EverQuest experience, you won't find it on "other servers", make it red this weekend...

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[Deckk]

The only issue I have with red... Random ganking. Hate it. I crash sometimes when my characters die, so unexpected deaths for no reason really aggravate the piss out of me.

Guess I'm a care-bear :)

[Swish]

The crashing is probably fixable Deckk - post up in technical discussion and I bet someone can give you some good advice.

After that, give it a try... you'll find the vast majority of people want to work together for levels as there's a group bonus.

[Pheer]

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[suppresso]

Your best one yet Swish - Will view again

[Seltius]

OMG what was Red Lesson #2? I missed it so far I got don't afk and make friends

So far Red is fun just lonely. No one was in zone I started in haven't really seen more than 2 people in zone with me at a time and they are role/anon although friendly enough. Then there was Dudeisbeast who is my hero he helped me get to level 5. Hoping to make friends this weekend there. I like that there is a level range to the pvp also a high level character ran past me last night and freaked me out until QF explained to me that there is a 5 level range in PVP.

[LoliPops]

Approaching 400 players PM EST! :D

[Ella`Ella]

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Pretty funny, Feign. I lulz'd

[Lady Julae]

So I guess it will be twice as bad on red? :D

Red Double XP Weekend:

http://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=195510

http://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=195533

[lurok1]

The only issue I have with red... Random ganking. Hate it. I crash sometimes when my characters die, so unexpected deaths for no reason really aggravate the piss out of me.

Guess I'm a care-bear :)

Been playing red a few weeks and I wish that I could say this doesn't happen but it does and it wouldn't be a problem normally but the gankers usually are running around wearing fungis and are epiced in lowbie hot spots. Reds low Pop is its players own fault cause otherwise it wouldn't be a bad server. Perhaps even the devs here's fault too for not nerfing these items on lowbies.

[Champion_Standing]

Despite my initial reservations and repeated attempts to troll red threads I am actually enjoying myself on p99 for the first time in years playing red. Yeah a fungi twink did get me, but revenge was had the next night and it was quite satisfying.

[lurok1]

As an ex Daoc player i was very interested in trying out eq Daoc. Me and some friends tried RZ out several years ago but We didn't get very high level.

I had rl family on red so they convinced me to try it we were leveling together in guk when I had my first pvp experience. We were all about level 8 or 9 and I could not for the life of me kill the shaman I was on. My cousin told me that she had a fungi. Then she sent me a tell complaining about our group getting some oor heals I was like wtf I'm naked and you're wearing a fungi and you're complaining?

Next pvp experience was in mistmoore at level 29. Guy named Spyt wearing fungi walks all over me still in mesh armor from lguk. Log out come back lfg again get called to mm for a pickup group some troll sk raid buffed in a fungi waxes our group , run back he's outside with a 60 shaman getting buffed in lfay and despite a oooc loot and scoot call rapes me naked. No big deal level past mistmoore.

Next stop com l50 I got some ok stuff now nothing spectacular but better than mesh. Fungi twinks less an of issue now right yeah except now they roll in rat packs of fungi monk twinks that camp bind spots. Honestly I made a lot of friends on red since starting and those are the worst of it but most people don't stick around after one or two experiences like that.

[Naprox]

made a chanter on red. soloed to 14. rarely see anyone to group with. still naked basically, still using starting dagger. no thanks.

[Credge]

I'm debating if I want to join red or not.I've been weighing the pros and cons and need some help figuring out this last bit.

Is it reasonably easy to join a leveling guild? I'm not really interested in getting twinked, I'd just like people to play with.

[Snuffalot]

I've got three newb Qs. I'll try to keep it concise but I drone on sometimes.

1) Ok, so I'm a loner... and a loners gotta be alone. How f'd am I? Can I wander the world following Sesserdrix's necro leveling guide (O, hey Misty bard), and generally be alright if I stay out of those popular zones like CB, etc? Or... will I be spanked wherever I go unless I make some friends to watch my back?

2) Is the community as bad as these forums suggest? I mean, listening to posts by guys like Colgate just make it look like a total cluster of angst and trolling.

3) Wtf does "Pras" mean? It's spammed all day in OOC and my only guess is its like some slang for "praise" as in, "I like what just happened."

Thanks.

[Tonikola]

Couple newb qs.

1) How screwed is a loner? If I avoid contested zones like CB and do something like... follow Sesserdrix's leveling guide (Hello Misty and bards), will I be able to do my thing? Or will I be punked around wherever I go until I join some big guild?

2) Does the red forum community represent the game community accurately? Honestly, every time I see some trollish post by guys like Colgate I just wonder if playing with angsty teens is worth it.

3) Is it true that there was a guild called "Holocaust" on the server with lots of members named after nazis? It's stories like that which make me question how toxic the red community is.

4) Wtf does "Pras" mean? I see it spammed in OOC all the time.

[iruinedyourday]

As an ex Daoc player i was very interested in trying out eq Daoc. Me and some friends tried RZ out several years ago but We didn't get very high level.

I had rl family on red so they convinced me to try it we were leveling together in guk when I had my first pvp experience. We were all about level 8 or 9 and I could not for the life of me kill the shaman I was on. My cousin told me that she had a fungi. Then she sent me a tell complaining about our group getting some oor heals I was like wtf I'm naked and you're wearing a fungi and you're complaining?

Next pvp experience was in mistmoore at level 29. Guy named Spyt wearing fungi walks all over me still in mesh armor from lguk. Log out come back lfg again get called to mm for a pickup group some troll sk raid buffed in a fungi waxes our group , run back he's outside with a 60 shaman getting buffed in lfay and despite a oooc loot and scoot call rapes me naked. No big deal level past mistmoore.

Next stop com l50 I got some ok stuff now nothing spectacular but better than mesh. Fungi twinks less an of issue now right yeah except now they roll in rat packs of fungi monk twinks that camp bind spots. Honestly I made a lot of friends on red since starting and those are the worst of it but most people don't stick around after one or two experiences like that.

Yea but with the standard xp bonus, if you are remotely cool tempered you'll notice 1. You enjoy the PvP breaks, winner or not and 2. I've never asked for a rez ever... PvP is fun, enjoy it!

[iruinedyourday]

Couple newb qs.

1) How screwed is a loner? If I avoid contested zones like CB and do something like... follow Sesserdrix's leveling guide (Hello Misty and bards), will I be able to do my thing? Or will I be punked around wherever I go until I join some big guild?

Totally safe, though because of the XP bonus and the helpfulness that friends provide you in PVP environment you'll find that you enjoy leveling in the hotspots unTwinked more than hard-core soloing.

2) Does the red forum community represent the game community accurately? Honestly, every time I see some trollish post by guys like Colgate I just wonder if playing with angsty teens is worth it.

Yes and no, almost everyone I've met in game is totally different than their form persona. In fact Colegate is one of the most fair loot distributors, organized and nicest Raiders I've ever raided with

3) Is it true that there was a guild called "Holocaust" on the server with lots of members named after nazis? It's stories like that which make me question how toxic the red community is.

Yes and no again, no there arnt a bunch of characters name after Nazis. Due to forum drama rivals of the guild Holocaust made them out to be a bunch of Nazis so the funny trolls that EQ PVPrs are some may have rolled a character to just to rub it in the faces of their rivals. I've been a huge opponent of bigotry in the blue forms, I can't stand it, but if I can Hackett on red, anyone can.

4) Wtf does "Pras" mean? I see it spammed in OOC all the time.

It derives from the role-playing ogre usage of the word praise. It's a goog way to say grats on red.

[iruinedyourday]

I'm debating if I want to join red or not.I've been weighing the pros and cons and need some help figuring out this last bit.

Is it reasonably easy to join a leveling guild? I'm not really interested in getting twinked, I'd just like people to play with.

Yea super easy to find groups even unguilded!

There are a couple low leveling guilds very active these days!

[Credge]

That's good to hear. I'll have to make a character tonight. I think I'll use blue for soloing and red for grouping.

Any directions for for guilds to look at?

[Tonikola]

Cool. Thanks for answering those Qs. I'll give it a try this weekend.

[iruinedyourday]

That's good to hear. I'll have to make a character tonight. I think I'll use blue for soloing and red for grouping.

Any directions for for guilds to look at?

First just /ooc lfg and level range, its global so you should see some people LFG or lfm relatively quick, second if your in the newbie area, invite anyone you see, the more people in your group the more xp you get!

Lastly, thunderdrom and Order through chaos are the two main leveling guilds.

But please be patient, the pop is low so keep that in mind as you get started! Good luck!!

[Swish]

Couple newb qs.

1) How screwed is a loner? If I avoid contested zones like CB and do something like... follow Sesserdrix's leveling guide (Hello Misty and bards), will I be able to do my thing? Or will I be punked around wherever I go until I join some big guild?

2) Does the red forum community represent the game community accurately? Honestly, every time I see some trollish post by guys like Colgate I just wonder if playing with angsty teens is worth it.

3) Is it true that there was a guild called "Holocaust" on the server with lots of members named after nazis? It's stories like that which make me question how toxic the red community is.

4) Wtf does "Pras" mean? I see it spammed in OOC all the time.

The main "fungi twink" spots are Crushbone, Unrest and Mistmoore (ALL Faydwer).

If you're XP'ing anywhere else you'll rarely see one, maybe Upper Guk if you're very unlucky but I've never seen one in there.

I'd get in a guild like <Good Guys> or one of the smaller rising guilds. In a guild and group environment it's very different to the old veterans chatting about who got killed, why it was funny, who got mad etc.

There was a guild called Holocaust but it was disbanded by Sirken I believe. Reformed with most of the same people into what is now Empire.

Pras = giving praise for a most honorable kill <3

[lurok1]

Why do fungis not have a level requirement here. Also those main fungi think spots are the only places you can really find groups. Crucial to the do bonus here.

[iruinedyourday]

The main "fungi twink" spots are Crushbone, Unrest and Mistmoore (ALL Faydwer).

If you're XP'ing anywhere else you'll rarely see one, maybe Upper Guk if you're very unlucky but I've never seen one in there.

I'd get in a guild like <Good Guys> or one of the smaller rising guilds. In a guild and group environment it's very different to the old veterans chatting about who got killed, why it was funny, who got mad etc.

There was a guild called Holocaust but it was disbanded by Sirken I believe. Reformed with most of the same people into what is now Empire.

Pras = giving praise for a most honorable kill <3

dont ignore me swish or ill pk u!

[iruinedyourday]

Why do fungis not have a level requirement here. Also those main fungi think spots are the only places you can really find groups. Crucial to the do bonus here.

it really is a non issue... they kind of do have a level requirement, they cost basicaly 150k blue plat, so not many people have them (right now).

I mean really the truth is, if you are leveling you may see 1 or 2 fungi twinks, ever.. its not like they're there all the time.

That said, the native XP bonus on red makes these interrupts seriously not a big deal. Like I said, Ive never asked for a rez.. its literately faster to just get back to leveling than it is to wait for your rez effects to ware off... So when you see a fungi twink, take the time to learn how to joust, how to move and cast, how to fight pvp without mob agro.. there is SO much to pvp that takes lots and lots of practice..

The fungi twinks provide a super valuable personal skill up in how to pvp. Primarily because in the 20's it still takes a minuet for someone to kill you unless you just stand there and let them back stab you.

They'll be gone as fast as they came, and you'll be back to leveling in no time. And if you do get Yellow Text'd (PvP death, most of the time youll find they didnt even loot your plat, cus they are just accountants IRL that are playing a video game for fun with pals, not really billy the kid lookin to get famous.)

[Tyrrion]

There was a short time when red was down and blue wasn't. The red trolls had a few minutes with nothing better to do so they hopped over to blue. If I didn't have enough of a reason to stay away from red, that was it. No wonder you guys got your OOC taken away.

[Buhbuh]

If it's any consolation, you can easily be 50 + by June 1st if you find the right group and stick together.

[Lauka]

For the newcomers to Red - you are welcome to join us in <Thunderdome> guild!
Check out our recruiting thread for more info:
https://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=195116

[Swish]

dont ignore me swish or ill pk u!

Sorry was typing a reply to that post while tanking - forumquest never stops.

[Swish]

There was a short time when red was down and blue wasn't. The red trolls had a few minutes with nothing better to do so they hopped over to blue. If I didn't have enough of a reason to stay away from red, that was it. No wonder you guys got your OOC taken away.

Those people aren't representative of the entire community, I implore you to give it a chance <3

[Swish]

That's good to hear. I'll have to make a character tonight. I think I'll use blue for soloing and red for grouping.

Any directions for for guilds to look at?

Keep an eye out in ooc for guild recruitment messages - there's a few to look at.

[Swish]

Cool. Thanks for answering those Qs. I'll give it a try this weekend.

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[Swish]

I hear 50-55 people in KC, give red a thought tonight <3

[iruinedyourday]

I hear 50-55 people in KC, give red a thought tonight <3

KC OFFLIMITS

[Lune]

I'd have tried red a long time ago probably if it weren't for these threads. Can't do it now purely out of spite

[Swish]

I'd have tried red a long time ago probably if it weren't for these threads. Can't do it now purely out of spite

I don't believe anyone on this forum would not try red because of a thread someone created on the forum asking them to try it.

[Pipip]

I've only been on P99 for about a month now, splitting my time between both Red and Blue. I've been really enjoying my time on Blue, and mostly enjoying my time on Red. I was a hardcore DAoC, WHO, and Eve Online player, so I'm not new to PvP in general. Just a few thoughts from a new player on Red:

- The group xp bonus is really nice, and definitely noticeable. It's most pronounced when you combine it with a high ZEM. My melee characters are actually having trouble keeping all weapon skills at level. I've had to choose just two or three weapons to work on, so I'll have to skill up the others later.

- Fungi twinks are really annoying. Example: In crushbone, one took on my entire group. It was like fighting a raid boss. We were all OOM and hurting, but we kept fighting. We got him down to 25%, and then he zoned. All that work and no kill on either side. It was actually a pretty long fight. The group xp bonus is nice, but it's offset by random periods of not being able to xp due to people like this, because they come back. The standard dungeons that people use for leveling on blue have these twinks more often than not on Red. Fortunately there are other places to go, but just take Faydwer off your plans for group dungeon crawling. Unless you find it fun to fight these guys. I bet they have a blast, but it's just pointless being on the other end. They should flag you when you engage in PvP so that you can't zone for 30 seconds after an aggressive act. At least then you'd have a shot at killing them.

- PvP with non-twinks is a real blast. We fought for control in one dungeon with another group. They beat us the first time, but we regrouped and we eventually managed to kick them out and have the zone to ourselves. I wish there were more battles like that. Losing the first fight didn't even suck - it was motivation to come back. It's the only example of well matched group combat I've had so far, maybe there will be more at higher levels. I've had some one on one fights which are also fun.

- There are some weird quirks of EQ PvP that everyone on Red knows, but that aren't published for newcomers in any concise list that I've found. Example - someone attacked my enchanter. I went to cast on him, he ran to the guards, my spell landed, and the guards slaughtered me for an xp death. I mentioned it in guild chat and everyone else knew about faction and guards, but how do you learn this stuff as a noob, other than by experiencing it? Certain spells don't work in PvP either, which you find out the hard way (if you're the one thinking you'll be able to rely on them). If someone could point noobs to a good list of what's different mechanically from blue, it would help out a lot.

- My main concerns on Red are the low population and global OOC. There are some zones that are more crowded than others, so I can get past the population issue. OOC is another story. Global chat is nice for finding groups, but it's otherwise really distracting. I wish there were channels for LFG and auctions that were separate from it. Every few minutes someone is complaining about something, or criticizing someone, or talking smack, or exercising their right to free speech that somehow applies even in a fantasy world, and I'd rather just filter it all out. But I can't without also missing out on stuff that I want to see. So I put up with it, but I don't enjoy it.

Anyway, I'll continue to play on both servers, but I hope this helps someone who doesn't know what to expect. Red isn't a bad place to play, and you'll see higher level content way sooner than on Blue. People are actually pretty helpful, they just do it in /tells rather than in public. Don't judge the server by the forums, I almost didn't try it at all after reading the forums first. To be completely honest, the only reason I even tried it is because I didn't have enough character slots on Blue to play everything. But I'm glad that I gave it a shot.

[azxten]

Red would be fun if it had an actual classic ruleset. What the fuck is FFA PvP with no item loot? That never existed on classic. Retarded.

Red should have been team PvP with coin loot or FFA PvP with item loot.

[Buhbuh]

They didn't choose a teams rule set because the population is as low as it is. They can't make it teams just because a small faction of players would decide to play there if it were. It would cut the amount of targets you could attack in half or in thirds (depending on the teams/ amount of players from each).

The main point we have against fungi twinks is: you outlevel them very quickly.

If the population continues to grow, global OOC has to go. It will probably be voted on/ changed if it gets above 400 pop. You also have the option of turning off OOC during times it's bothersome, though you shouldn't really have to, which I get.

There are a lot of limiting factors on the server directly related to the population, not necessarily because we like it the way it is.

[Bweetza]

You'll get mad, you'll wish you could do something to stop people stealing mobs from your camp, you'll petition an already stressed Eunomia/Moregan/etc.Not being twinked and not having a group in my back pocket means I can't do anything to stop those players if I play red either.

[Swish]

Not being twinked and not having a group in my back pocket means I can't do anything to stop those players if I play red either.

Red Lesson #3 - make friends! If you're someone who logs on red to play SoloQuest you won't enjoy it as much compared to grouping and joining a guild. I appreciate the irony of that given the lower pop compared to blue but red is moving up in population.

Keep away from Crushbone and Mistmoore, and already your survival chances greatly improve. Those few fungi twinks are lazy, if they log in and nobody is there to kill they'll log out again rather than roaming much beyond those areas.

Also remember that you can trade blue plat for red plat if you really don't want to be day 1 naked...but part of red's charm is the fresh start and getting to grips with pvp mechanics if you dont know much about them. My first real taste of EQ pvp was P99 red and there is nothing that beats the buzz of that first pvp kill... experience that and I guarantee you'll have a taste for it.

Then message the guy you killed, say good fight... and carry on about your business :)

[LoliPops]

3) Wtf does "Pras" mean? It's spammed all day in OOC and my only guess is its like some slang for "praise" as in, "I like what just happened."

Thanks.

Starting with Red Beta, a Troll Shadowknigt named Lulz Sect would constantly roleplAy in OOC:

"PRAiS
PraS
PrAiS CT"

Lulz would illustrate his devotion to CT incessantly (praise) chanting to CT, much to the chagrin of the playerbase. Somehow the nuisance troll prayer caught on and became box
language.

[Bweetza]

My first real taste of EQ pvp was P99 red and there is nothing that beats the buzz of that first pvp kill... experience that and I guarantee you'll have a taste for it.I have no interest in causing other players distress, so player killing is not something I want to do. Similarly, I have found no exhilaration when another player gets me killed.

If I played on a PvP server, it would be in spite of the PvP, not because of it. The reduced population is basically the only benefit I can see, a benefit the Red community seems hellbent on eliminating through this constant recruitment.

[Swish]

Red probably isn't for you Bweetza if you don't enjoy pvp in games... blue will always be there. People struggling to find things to kill this weekend though.

[Deckk]

Red probably isn't for you Bweetza if you don't enjoy pvp in games... blue will always be there. People struggling to find things to kill this weekend though.

Not really (at least in my experience).

It's been busy but people seem pretty spread out for the most part. I think a lot of people are just starting new characters because the newbie zones seem totally loaded. Had a few friends that were in Unrest for about 2 hours and got 2.5 levels. I was in CB with 11 people for about an hour and a half to two hours and I got a level and a half.

[Swish]

Maybe the 30s or something is where it's at.

CoM/KC/Seb/HS/Chardok/Kedge/The Hole all very full last night.

[Alzoras]

if I wanted pvp I'd go back to playing Eve :P

[LoliPops]

Because Excel is so much fun. :rolleyes:

[Swish]

I heard everyone got banned from Eve, the red community is for clean whistles only.

[Krule]

Came to defend Red in fear of this turning into a massive rants and flames thread. Alas, Swish is here to do it for us!

I was going to give a big speech about Red and how badass it is but enough people did it already that I'll just echo the important points.

- Make friends is #1. I have about 20 contacts on my friends list since joining. To the necros asking earlier about soloing. You certainly can but all the fun things in EQ are done in groups.

- Branching off of the above at a close 2nd is finding a Guild. <Fresh> was disbanded for the greater good and now there is <Thunderdome> (the leveling guild, also where my GG alts are) and of course <Good Guys> is the premiere guild to be in at 50+.

Held KC virtually all night last night. Lots of revenge was had.

Shoutout to all my Googs.

[pink grapefruit]

From 35 to 39 on cleric, and 9 to 15 on paladin yesterday. And wasted some time killing a dwarf. Really good day :)

Why aren't you playing red yet?

[Daldaen]

Having a Red Awareness thread is like the Jehovah's Witness having an awareness campaign.

We know you exist, it's what you spend 90% of your time talking about. We just choose not to take part, because we are content where we are at now.

[lurok1]

Not being twinked and not having a group in my back pocket means I can't do anything to stop those players if I play red either.

I have no interest in causing other players distress, so player killing is not something I want to do. Similarly, I have found no exhilaration when another player gets me killed.

If I played on a PvP server, it would be in spite of the PvP, not because of it. The reduced population is basically the only benefit I can see, a benefit the Red community seems hellbent on eliminating through this constant recruitment.

This is how I am playing red. Still you wind up caught up in it eventually. I know what real pvp should be like in an MMO that was designed for pvp because Daoc and eq pvp is horrible. I get no rush out of these fights. I have more fun trying to avoid pvp on this server it ads a bit of extra immersion and even offers some rp opportunities.

Also All of the pvp encounters I have had on this server I have been at a severe disadvantage and that's after the gear. Either at my bind point or engaged with mobs or zoning into an area as a lowbie in rags or outnumbered .

The players fault I say and these propaganda threads aren't going to improve the pop on this server.

[waffel]

Having a Red Awareness thread is like the Jehovah's Witness having an awareness campaign.

We know you exist, it's what you spend 90% of your time talking about. We just choose not to take part, because we are content where we are at now.

"Why won't anyone play with me!!??"

[Swish]

Having a Red Awareness thread is like the Jehovah's Witness having an awareness campaign.

We know you exist, it's what you spend 90% of your time talking about. We just choose not to take part, because we are content where we are at now.

I saw the ninja edit a couple of months back asking what a fire giant was Daldaen - don't pretend you're not interested ;)

[iruinedyourday]

Having a Red Awareness thread is like the Jehovah's Witness having an awareness campaign.

We know you exist, it's what you spend 90% of your time talking about. We just choose not to take part, because we are content where we are at now.

not true dude.. lots of people swapped over. dont be a troll, you're a good guy.

*edit* lol you got 3 quotes in a row.. id say you're suited for red, pal!

[Daldaen]

I saw the ninja edit a couple of months back asking what a fire giant was Daldaen - don't pretend you're not interested ;)

It was a rhetorical question.

I know it is and it describes the climate of red so well. The use of homophobic and racial slurs was so rampant that people had to revert to using code to continue insulting each other with the least amount of class possible. If that isn't telling of the general population there, I'm not sure what is.

[Voland]

If the population continues to grow, global OOC has to go. It will probably be voted on/ changed if it gets above 400 pop.

No way, I love global OOC!
If this is the case, we don't need any more players on Red... nothing to see here... move along :)

[Credge]

Language is only as powerful as you're willing to let it be.

For me, being able to use actual expressive language without worrying about offending some dude who still thinks his mom will beat him for saying "fuck" is a big plus.

[Voland]

Keep away from Crushbone and Mistmoore, and already your survival chances greatly improve. Those few fungi twinks are lazy, if they log in and nobody is there to kill they'll log out again rather than roaming much beyond those areas.


This is true, most of them are melee chars, so they are not very mobile.
Most of them seem to stick to one zone.. exception being Iool who surprised everyone by migrating from Unrest to HighKeep.

[Malevz]

If you think you'd enjoy a truly fresh EverQuest experience, you won't find it on "other servers", make it red this weekend...



The server is called red99? I believe I might give this red99 a try, it sounds very exciting, thank you!

[Lady Julae]

Language is only as powerful as you're willing to let it be.

For me, being able to use actual expressive language without worrying about offending some dude who still thinks his mom will beat him for saying "fuck" is a big plus.

I don't think it is so much the language but rather the image you portray about the Red community when you use such language. By being both vulgar and condescending, you are making Red look less attractive to the more mature player base, like myself.

I mentioned in another thread that Red would be an amazing server if it would only succumb to both a big attitude adjustment and meaningful, player enforced PvP rules set. Link: http://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?p=1899387#post1899387

[Swish]

It was a rhetorical question.

I know it is and it describes the climate of red so well. The use of homophobic and racial slurs was so rampant that people had to revert to using code to continue insulting each other with the least amount of class possible. If that isn't telling of the general population there, I'm not sure what is.

It's one thing to click on a thread about a server you don't like, its another to keep coming back and trolling it. Proof that there's bad people on the internet no matter what game or server you play on.

Red is enjoyable folks, if you can't get a camp on blue tonight... keep it in mind <3

[Credge]

I don't think it is so much the language but rather the image you portray about the Red community when you use such language. By being both vulgar and condescending, you are making Red look less attractive to the more mature player base, like myself.

I mentioned in another thread that Red would be an amazing server if it would only succumb to both a big attitude adjustment and meaningful, player enforced PvP rules set. Link: http://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?p=1899387#post1899387

It's the PVP ruleset that makes red less attractive. MMOs have always had significantly fewer PvP players than pve players. The idea that I'm going to drop all of my money if I get killed isn't exactly something that players clamor for.

To put it another way, if you can't handle being called a name in a video game, you probably can't handle being killed in a video game either.

[Lady Julae]

It's the PVP ruleset that makes red less attractive...

To that, I agree.


To put it another way, if you can't handle being called a name in a video game, you probably can't handle being killed in a video game either.

I agree to this as well. However, while I do have thick skin, if I PvP and kill someone, that person calling me a f'ing c*nt, is not called for and only solidifies their poor sportsmanship and immaturity; something I have no tolerance for in any situation, MMO games not withstanding.

[Krule]

It's the PVP ruleset that makes red less attractive. MMOs have always had significantly fewer PvP players than pve players. The idea that I'm going to drop all of my money if I get killed isn't exactly something that players clamor for.

To put it another way, if you can't handle being called a name in a video game, you probably can't handle being killed in a video game either.

That is so spot on. Nailed it.

The issue is exactly the second paragraph. But this all boils down to one simple question.

Do I want to poopsock my life away on Blue or can I deal with a few PK's, have whatever camp I want with my group and level to 60 faster than anyone on Blue?

Lol it sounds silly even reading the question out loud.

[Skogar]

Greetings all.

I'm intrigued, and have been around the block a few times with respect to PvP. I have a couple of questions though.

First, the rule set seems to be inconsistent, to be polite.

A fungi tunic twink comes at me and I will do two things. First, accept that death is inevitable. Second, I train the sh*t out of the twink. Corpse camping is legal, with a caveat, but legal none the less. But you cannot use your immediate environment to defend yourself?

The rules should be consistent: ie. there are no rules. The environment is a tool to be used as deemed appropriate by the players involved.

My second question has to do with the end game. I recently played on a vanilla wow pvp server and it was ugly. Once you got to the endgame the focus was on the leaderboard, which meant that the highest level players would kill the lowest levels that would still provide "honor" points. Semantics aside, the reality was that the game was no longer playable.

Same people. Same time zone. Same limited number of end-game zones. One cycle of endless ganking.

Also, I doubt the loot and scoot stuff is enforced because the staff are probably overworked as it is.

I'm considering giving it a shot, but would like to hear about the end game, as well as the justification that corpse camping is ok but training is not.

Thanks.

[Swish]

It's the PVP ruleset that makes red less attractive. MMOs have always had significantly fewer PvP players than pve players. The idea that I'm going to drop all of my money if I get killed isn't exactly something that players clamor for.

To put it another way, if you can't handle being called a name in a video game, you probably can't handle being killed in a video game either.

You carry gems on red... if you're carrying anything more than 20pp in coins you should convert it/bank it.

I'll make that one of the next red lessons - its not rocket science.

Tamtam got caught out at Overthere bank for over 30k plat but its very unusual to see.

[Credge]

You carry gems on red... if you're carrying anything more than 20pp in coins you should convert it/bank it.

I'll make that one of the next red lessons - its not rocket science.

Tamtam got caught out at Overthere bank for over 30k plat but its very unusual to see.

See, it's stuff like this that's going to make me play on the server. Things like that really appeal to me.

[Swish]

"Sorry guys, I'm not going to play because they do things differently on a pvp server"

ok pal - thanks for your post.

[Glenzig]

Having a Red Awareness thread is like the Jehovah's Witness having an awareness campaign.

We know you exist, it's what you spend 90% of your time talking about. We just choose not to take part, because we are content where we are at now.

The fact that your analogy is completely applicable means that both of these groups must be doing their jobs correctly.

[Swish]

Not content enough though, most people ignore Jehovah's Witnesses rather than going onto a Jehovah's Witness forum and saying how they don't like them very much.

Sorry if you're rustled by this thread, it's just created to promote a growing population.

If anyone can make it to level 10 I'd be happy to do JC combines for free at NFP bank (just bring me the materials).

...and as I mentioned before all the trolls came in, if you really don't want to start completely from scratch it's possible to find a plat transfer from blue to red if you can find someone switching. I can make up HP rings for 310pp a pair (mat prices), stat gear, resist gear, whatever you like. I'm not looking to profit, just to help new players get started whatever their bank balance.

[Grimjaw]

I've got three newb Qs. I'll try to keep it concise but I drone on sometimes.

1) Ok, so I'm a loner... and a loners gotta be alone. How f'd am I? Can I wander the world following Sesserdrix's necro leveling guide (O, hey Misty bard), and generally be alright if I stay out of those popular zones like CB, etc? Or... will I be spanked wherever I go unless I make some friends to watch my back?

2) Is the community as bad as these forums suggest? I mean, listening to posts by guys like Colgate just make it look like a total cluster of angst and trolling.

3) Wtf does "Pras" mean? It's spammed all day in OOC and my only guess is its like some slang for "praise" as in, "I like what just happened."

Thanks.

Couple newb qs.

1) How screwed is a loner? If I avoid contested zones like CB and do something like... follow Sesserdrix's leveling guide (Hello Misty and bards), will I be able to do my thing? Or will I be punked around wherever I go until I join some big guild?

2) Does the red forum community represent the game community accurately? Honestly, every time I see some trollish post by guys like Colgate I just wonder if playing with angsty teens is worth it.

3) Is it true that there was a guild called "Holocaust" on the server with lots of members named after nazis? It's stories like that which make me question how toxic the red community is.

4) Wtf does "Pras" mean? I see it spammed in OOC all the time.

...

[Credge]

"Sorry guys, I'm not going to play because they do things differently on a pvp server"

ok pal - thanks for your post.

But... I'm going to play on the red server...

[iruinedyourday]

Red would be fun if it had an actual classic ruleset. What the fuck is FFA PvP with no item loot? That never existed on classic. Retarded.

Red should have been team PvP with coin loot or FFA PvP with item loot.

its self organized teams :eek:

[Swish]

But... I'm going to play on the red server...

Oh awesome then :) Let us know what you roll and where you're starting Credge, might be some others doing the same tonight.

[Credge]

Oh awesome then :) Let us know what you roll and where you're starting Credge, might be some others doing the same tonight.

I made a halfling cleric, got him to 2 and went back to work from my lunch break.

That XP is blazing fast.

[iruinedyourday]

I made a halfling cleric, got him to 2 and went back to work from my lunch break.

That XP is blazing fast.

yea im noticing that its really not that noticible 50+ but on my teens character, omg its like 1 orange a kill lol

[pink grapefruit]

It's the PVP ruleset that makes red less attractive. MMOs have always had significantly fewer PvP players than pve players. The idea that I'm going to drop all of my money if I get killed isn't exactly something that players clamor for.

To put it another way, if you can't handle being called a name in a video game, you probably can't handle being killed in a video game either.

I've played EQ pvp since 2000 so maybe it's just what I've grown up with, but the money thing really isn't a big deal. They don't take all of your money, only what you haven't banked. And I always bank. It's not hard. If you're careful as you should be, the most you'll lose is whatever coin you farmed up in a single farming session. And even then you can do a lot to safeguard your cash. Leave yourself outs, cheetah classes should always keep it memmed. Bards should always have DA song ready to go. Every so often convert plat to gems. Etc.

There was only one instance in my time spent playing EQ that I lost a significant amount of money, and it really sticks out in my memory for this reason. Ran into a group of shorty purists during Luclin era and was nuked down quickly, think a wizard got a manaburn off even. Lost 300pp. That was bad luck and stupidity on my part, and it never happened again :)

the bluebies grow lazy, and fat with coin~ xD

I don't think it is so much the language but rather the image you portray about the Red community when you use such language. By being both vulgar and condescending, you are making Red look less attractive to the more mature player base, like myself.

I mentioned in another thread that Red would be an amazing server if it would only succumb to both a big attitude adjustment and meaningful, player enforced PvP rules set. Link: http://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?p=1899387#post1899387

Image is a funny thing. Judging by blue RnF, you have those same vocal minorities projecting a nasty image, particularly when it comes to end game raiding. Such violent language they use :(

The actual community that exists on red is largely awesome. Had a lot of fun chatting and hanging out in groups, which is to be expected in EQ! And the vocal minority? Surely a mature gamer would know not to get involved in it, watch it with kind curiosity, and maybe roll their eyes gently. Sometimes it's really amusing tbh. I kinda believe that pvp gamers, particularly in games like EQ where pvp isn't "supposed" to happen, are more creative and interesting than their blue counterparts. Maybe if someone's afraid of potentially offensive creativity ("there are bad words in this rap music!") they should stay away, but still. Letting a few loud personalities dictate how you play and enjoy the game seems kinda silly.

[Pipip]

I leveled a pally to 9, and a warrior to 6, it's really fast. Now I have to figure out what the better strategy is - level something with no penalty and get a lot of levels, or level something with a penalty because the bonus xp will make the penalty unnoticeable?

Decisions...

[Lune]

Not content enough though, most people ignore Jehovah's Witnesses rather than going onto a Jehovah's Witness forum and saying how they don't like them very much.

Sorry if you're rustled by this thread, it's just created to promote a growing population.

If anyone can make it to level 10 I'd be happy to do JC combines for free at NFP bank (just bring me the materials).

...and as I mentioned before all the trolls came in, if you really don't want to start completely from scratch it's possible to find a plat transfer from blue to red if you can find someone switching. I can make up HP rings for 310pp a pair (mat prices), stat gear, resist gear, whatever you like. I'm not looking to profit, just to help new players get started whatever their bank balance.

Your rhetoric routinely involves bashing blue to promote red. If a proselytizer showed up at my door, told me my house looked like shit, called me fat, and fucked my wife, I wouldn't be in a big hurry to join his cult. I used to not troll these threads out of respect for Derubael and Zade, but they are both gone.

But you're right, I shouldn't troll here, I'm sure the staff would love to see more people on red. Plus it's a great containment server. I remember when red released and I never had to listen to Armani shouting rap lyrics in EC again

[LethClaypool]

I may be making an appearance.

Blue has kinda been lacking for me lately.

[Skogar]

What am I missing?

I'm interested but have questions concerning two points. Both are legitimate points, but I'm seeing no response.

From the About Red99 wiki page:

"Training will not be allowed and if caught will be harshly punished."

"Bind Camping will not be an offense on the PvP Server, however it will be frowned upon by the staff and in some situations may be intervened."

My example was that if I saw a guy coming at me with a plain chainmail tunic, sporting various pieces of very colorful plate armor, I would use my environment to defend myself. No one truly interested in PvP would have a problem with this tactic.

Second, I've played on PvP servers where the end game was a gank-fest because of the focus on leaderboard standings. I wasted a lot of time. What's it like here?

Dropping plat is no problem. I played on a PvP server for a very short period of time where you dropped gear too. That was a problem.

I've been playing on Blue over the last year and a half, albeit sparsely. And I agree that certain part of the game are effectively off limits due to the crowding. That's why I'm posting here.

Regardless, enjoy your weekends.